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Title: why nasser gave up
Post by: mame09 on October 07, 2006, 05:45:42 PM
my theory is bullshit placings that he had like 97 olympia, 98 or 99 asc (i forgot which one) so he just gave up.

Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: Jr. Yates on October 07, 2006, 05:46:07 PM
he suffered a major shoulder infection.
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: knny187 on October 07, 2006, 05:49:29 PM
Nasser ran his physique in the ground.


He regrets doing (certain things) over the course that has slowly ruined & changed his body permanently.

(from a source)
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: Jr. Yates on October 07, 2006, 05:52:20 PM
Nasser ran his physique in the ground.


He regrets doing (certain things) over the course that has slowly ruined & changed his body permanently.

(from a source)
oh. So did he ever get a shoulder infection?? i thought that is what forced him to take so many years off and by then it was late to come back?
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: youandme on October 07, 2006, 05:54:16 PM
oh. So did he ever get a shoulder infection?? i thought that is what forced him to take so many years off and by then it was late to come back?

He had surgery or surgeries on it.
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: Royalty on October 07, 2006, 05:54:31 PM
my theory is bullshit placings that he had like 97 olympia, 98 or 99 asc (i forgot which one) so he just gave up.



Nasser won the 1999 ASC. He then came in off at the 1999 Mr O.

Each year after that he got worse and worse.

From 1995-1999 He was a threat at the olympia. By 2005 he was benching 225 for 15 reps at Olympia
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: knny187 on October 07, 2006, 05:57:32 PM
this is all true....


but the "s" word had ruined his body.


Plain & simple......


he won't be returning.
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: knny187 on October 07, 2006, 06:03:21 PM
He probably just couldn't afford the gear anymore.

He's got more than enough money
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: Darth Muscle on October 07, 2006, 06:11:27 PM
He's got more than enough money

Just one more for the Chad's body count of ruined bodybuilders.  Nasser's body just will not respond, no matter how much he takes now.  Also from an inside source.
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: Darth Muscle on October 07, 2006, 06:16:14 PM
Guys like Gary and Don Youngblood and the like were all still responding to gear into their late forties.  Why can't Nasser?  I'm pretty confident "receptor burnout" is a myth.

You'd feel differently if you knew the amounts involved. 
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: torquemada on October 07, 2006, 06:35:46 PM
Nasser ran his physique in the ground.

And kept going; it's a shame that his career went from nearly winning the O to not placing in the smaller shows :(
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: Jr. Yates on October 07, 2006, 06:40:27 PM
And kept going; it's a shame that his career went from nearly winning the O to not placing in the smaller shows :(
Definatly a shame, he was once one of the hottest rising stars in the industry.
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: torquemada on October 07, 2006, 06:42:43 PM
He was the first IFBB pro that I ever met.  He was guest posing at a show in AL around '97-'98.  Nice guy and very professional...
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: Jr. Yates on October 07, 2006, 06:43:41 PM
He was the first IFBB pro that I ever met.  He was guest posing at a show in AL around '97-'98.  Nice guy and very professional...

really!?! i heard he was a straight up asshole that didn't give a shit about anyone or anything.
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: torquemada on October 07, 2006, 06:44:27 PM
But Gary was known to be quite the juicer as well.

A supplement industry guy told me Gary never came off.  He just bridged all his cycles.  I've got to say that it seems to have worked for him.  Bastard looks great and pushing 50 :o
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: venom gang.bronze on October 07, 2006, 06:45:32 PM
You'd feel differently if you knew the amounts involved. 
true. most would never believe the amounts (ab)used. not saying anything's wrong either which way. but the reality is staggering.
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: gtbro1 on October 07, 2006, 06:46:43 PM
  I have it on good authority that Nasser never used gear...he just had good genetics.
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: torquemada on October 07, 2006, 06:48:23 PM
really!?! i heard he was a straight up asshole that didn't give a shit about anyone or anything.
Don't get me wrong; we didn't have dinner together or hang out, but as far as the whole fan/guest poser thing, he did the job as a pro.
  As far as getting to hang out with someone, the two that made the best impression while getting to hang around them under different circumstances were Darrem (nice guy who'd talk 30 min w/ you; very genuine type) and Mike Mattarazzo ( was straight up about everything and anything in the IFBB and drug use).
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: Jr. Yates on October 07, 2006, 06:51:06 PM
I've always been a fan of Mike! I miss seeing him and reading articles on him.
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: HOSTILE on October 07, 2006, 07:24:16 PM
Guys like Gary and Don Youngblood and the like were all still responding to gear into their late forties.

youngblood is DEAD........ guess it didnt go too well for him huh
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: Triple-H_2005 on October 07, 2006, 07:42:51 PM
my theory is bullshit placings that he had like 97 olympia,...

Whatever... Yes he was better than Dorian from the front THAT YEAR, but from the side and back, Dorian kicked his ass and took Nasser's lunch money.(http://www.testmester.net/images/kepek/kicsik/th_2163.jpg)
(http://massmonsters-premium.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/yates02.jpg.w300h400.jpg)
Say goodnight Gracie. I mean, Nasser...

(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy156.jpg)
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: Jr. Yates on October 07, 2006, 07:43:34 PM
 :o my god that back is INSANE!
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: Adam Empire on October 07, 2006, 08:12:03 PM
Guys like Gary and Don Youngblood and the like were all still responding to gear into their late forties.  Why can't Nasser?  I'm pretty confident "receptor burnout" is a myth.

Not a myth.  If one ramps up too quickly or adds too much, this will happen (see Polumbo).

Also, Don Youngblood didn't even start lifting (juicing) until his mid thirties (at the earliest) - hence his window was later in life.
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: GoneAway on October 07, 2006, 08:23:43 PM
Nasser is the man. The guy once had one of the best physiques in the world. Top 2 at the O., and flawless from the front. You can't deny his accomplishments. He's one of my idols in BBing.
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on October 07, 2006, 08:28:48 PM
Leave it to a newb to post a morphed Dorian shot
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: GHGut on October 07, 2006, 08:45:32 PM
Was it the plasma expanders?

Seriously, is he retired for real now? When did he announce this?
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: Mr Anabolic on October 07, 2006, 08:46:31 PM
Leave it to a newb to post a morphed Dorian shot

I don't think it's "morphed", but the length of the photo is compressed making things look shorter and larger.
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: Adam Empire on October 07, 2006, 08:51:36 PM
Was it the plasma expanders?

Seriously, is he retired for real now? When did he announce this?


I don't think he used them - only Milos did.

Probably flat out using too much in general burnt out his receptors.
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: knny187 on October 08, 2006, 10:38:01 AM
Was it the plasma expanders?

Seriously, is he retired for real now? When did he announce this?


Can't say he "publically" announced it like on a stage or magazine article....

but he is telling people out & about that he's no longer competing anymore
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: the shadow on October 08, 2006, 10:54:50 AM
Nasser is the man. The guy once had one of the best physiques in the world. Top 2 at the O., and flawless from the front. You can't deny his accomplishments. He's one of my idols in BBing.
correct..he was one of the biggest bodybuilders ever..one of the first genuine mass monster...
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: Zach Trowbridge on October 08, 2006, 11:10:43 AM
I don't think it's "morphed", but the length of the photo is compressed making things look shorter and larger.

I'd say that qualifies as morphed to me.

But anyway, back to the topic at hand, I remember Nasser being on the first Flex magazine cover that I ever bought, I think it was in 1999.  He looked great, a big guy that still had a pretty streamlined midsection, at least compared to a lot of guys at the same bodyweight today.
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: Necrosis on October 08, 2006, 11:37:11 AM
that is not the really dorian pick. the real one is in the hulkster im sorry thread
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: gmflex on October 08, 2006, 11:41:37 AM
Didnt he have surgery too take out the Synthol??
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: Hulkster on October 08, 2006, 12:02:49 PM
(http://www.body-building.ru/forums/uploads/post-2-1128271322.jpg)
 :-\
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: The Master on October 08, 2006, 12:14:36 PM
You'd feel differently if you knew the amounts involved. 

Well, what amounts are we talking about?
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: Stavios on October 08, 2006, 12:18:41 PM
Whatever... Yes he was better than Dorian from the front THAT YEAR, but from the side and back, Dorian kicked his ass and took Nasser's lunch money.(http://www.testmester.net/images/kepek/kicsik/th_2163.jpg)
(http://massmonsters-premium.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/yates02.jpg.w300h400.jpg)
Say goodnight Gracie. I mean, Nasser...

(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy156.jpg)

Monster use of a photoshoped picture to prove a point  :o
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: venom gang.bronze on October 08, 2006, 01:01:07 PM
that pic is not photoshopped, bro'. if you've ever met yates in real life in his prime, you'd know this.
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: Stavios on October 08, 2006, 01:04:46 PM
if I remember well there was a 15 pages thread debating if that pic was real or not and it wasn't

the real pic was still impressive but not as freaky as this one

I could be wrong but I am pretty sure I am not
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: knny187 on October 08, 2006, 01:51:36 PM
you can tell it's been strecthed.

That photo is not the original
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: Kwon on October 08, 2006, 02:03:08 PM
that pic is not photoshopped, bro'. if you've ever met yates in real life in his prime, you'd know this.

It's photoshopped, We have all seen the original picture.
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: Mussolini on October 08, 2006, 03:18:26 PM
Can't say he "publically" announced it like on a stage or magazine article....

but he is telling people out & about that he's no longer competing anymore

Can you tell us how much his doses were, or give us a ball park atleast? I would imagine atleast 5 grams a week in order to burn out your receptors.


Thanks
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: knny187 on October 08, 2006, 03:25:20 PM
Can you tell us how much his doses were, or give us a ball park atleast? I would imagine atleast 5 grams a week in order to burn out your receptors.


Thanks

I don't have any info on his cycles
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: davidpaul on October 08, 2006, 03:52:16 PM
Can you tell us how much his doses were, or give us a ball park atleast? I would imagine atleast 5 grams a week in order to burn out your receptors.


Thanks

Nasser went upto 8-10 grammes a week of Test alone, then you have all the other shit, remember he was one of the first pro's to be 300 pounds plus with abs offseason, wonder how he managed to stay so lean at such a high bodyweight, nasser was also weak as fuck, and trained with the shittest form of any pro, but for a short time in the 90's he had the best physique in the world imo.
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: Mussolini on October 08, 2006, 04:16:25 PM
Nasser went upto 8-10 grammes a week of Test alone, then you have all the other shit, remember he was one of the first pro's to be 300 pounds plus with abs offseason, wonder how he managed to stay so lean at such a high bodyweight, nasser was also weak as f**k, and trained with the shittest form of any pro, but for a short time in the 90's he had the best physique in the world imo.

How did he manage to avoid acne and other side effects?


How did you find out how much Nasser uses? Not saying your lying, just curious? Did you know him?


Thanks,
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: Triple-H_2005 on October 08, 2006, 06:26:22 PM
Sweet Lord, people...I didn't mean to post a morphed pic.  Ease up a little.  The other one was legit (but got yanked).

The point is, morphed or not, Yates crushed Nasser from the back.

(http://www.athlete.ru/fotos/profi/dorian/dorian_yates_184_great.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildinguniverse.com/images/yates/Yates02_small.jpg)
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: torquemada on October 08, 2006, 06:44:06 PM
If you ever watch one of his training video's (Nasser on the Way), he's not nearly as strong as you would expect, even for pre-contest...
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: Mussolini on October 08, 2006, 08:00:51 PM
If you ever watch one of his training video's (Nasser on the Way), he's not nearly as strong as you would expect, even for pre-contest...

What was he lifting?
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 08, 2006, 08:19:27 PM
What was he lifting?
I seem to remember him bragging in Flex how he did a "heavy" set of squats with 405 (maybe it was 500 not sure) for 6, and you know they weren't deep. Pathetic for a guy his size. Horrible form.
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: IceCold on October 08, 2006, 09:57:30 PM
Nasser went upto 8-10 grammes a week of Test alone, then you have all the other shit, remember he was one of the first pro's to be 300 pounds plus with abs offseason, wonder how he managed to stay so lean at such a high bodyweight, nasser was also weak as f**k, and trained with the shittest form of any pro, but for a short time in the 90's he had the best physique in the world imo.

8-10 grams a week?

that's probably the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard.

you should be ashamed of yourself for posting that. 
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: arce377 on October 09, 2006, 12:00:02 AM
Receptor BURN OUT! :(
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: venom gang.bronze on October 09, 2006, 01:18:42 AM
8-10 grams a week?

that's probably the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard.

you should be ashamed of yourself for posting that. 
i'll preface this by saying that this is NOT an attack on you, okay? but... you'd be really surprised what a real "stack" is. having, at one time, dealt with many pros, the things i've seen them do would boggle the mind. be it 'aas, or recs.
ex:one dude, a real cool, huge dude, that passed away in the late '90s, he used to come by and get his shit. mind you, even back in the late '90s you could still get fairly decent and cheap mex products like brovel and tornel test. these guys load up on all the test for bulking and switch over for the precon/contest, but you know this. so he comes in the pad. he gets 4 brovels(cyp/200mg/10ml) 1 bottle goes in the right bicep, one in the left. then he repeated the sequence with the left. he didn't use synthol, because he considered it cheating. he did that sequence m,w,f! he didn't do those big doses at home because he said his lady would freak if she knew, so he just did all the orals and the eq and deca at home.
another pal, for calve training alone, use to take sten and inj. dbol, and hit EACH CALVE with 19 1inch 29 gauge needles in each calve before blasting calves. he didn't count that as part of the array of aas.
so, yeah, these huge guys, they use  ALOT of shit.
remember, bodybuilders are some of the most obsessive compulsive peeps on the face of the earth. trust me, it's not uncommon.
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: Figo on October 09, 2006, 04:32:39 AM
 : :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: Petrucci on October 09, 2006, 05:32:48 AM
Nasser was probably my favorite 'mass monster' . Monster quantities of muscle still with shape and great abs on top of it.
 Yes, Yates 'crushed' Nasser from the back, but everything else Nasser had yates on his best years....Arms, shoulders, legs...even calves...And besides that, Nasser always had great lats, and his back was super wide...
 Really deserved at least one O for his record...
 Oh, and by the way, look at this photo, and tell me if his back its so 'bad' ...I think hi is holding his own against the almighty Yates...

Ps: in the photo...better V taper, better hamstrings, bigger shoulders, wider back, and the arms...well i dont think i even have to point that  ;)
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: GoneAway on October 09, 2006, 06:15:25 AM
I call dead even on that back shot with Doz, if not Nasser getting the upperhand out of sheer better conditioning on many more parts than Dorian had (which only were a few parts of the back and glutes.) Nasser was thicker, wider and had more overall mass and conditioning in that shot.

Someone post pics or show me where to find the mandatories. I'd like to know how Nasser lost that.
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: natural al on October 09, 2006, 06:19:11 AM
I might be wrong but Nasser is probably the first guy to really perfect the whole GH thing in 95.  Remember in 94 at the O and the NOC he was about 230lbs, looked good in both shows.  At the 95 NOC he came in at like 258, harder and in better shape overall then the year before...just always seemed odd to me that he could put on that much muscle in such a short period of time.  Same with Fux.  When he won the Worlds he was good but nowhere near the size he was when he showed up at the 96 Arnold, plus he was the first guy I remember with a huge gut.
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: BEAST 8692 on October 09, 2006, 06:37:07 AM
i believe the official explanation was extra chicken breasts. ;D

well, it's gotta be better than the old timers like larry scott saying it was extra milk and blairs protein which was basically fuking cream for crissakes.

no top bodybuider is EVER going to tell the public his REAL cycles. the best you'll get is like half a dball a day or some shit.

not unless he's at the end of his career with nothing left to lose and even then i doubt it. look at scott, lying bastard that he is.
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: gtbro1 on October 09, 2006, 06:53:14 AM
i'll preface this by saying that this is NOT an attack on you, okay? but... you'd be really surprised what a real "stack" is. having, at one time, dealt with many pros, the things i've seen them do would boggle the mind. be it 'aas, or recs.
ex:one dude, a real cool, huge dude, that passed away in the late '90s, he used to come by and get his shit. mind you, even back in the late '90s you could still get fairly decent and cheap mex products like brovel and tornel test. these guys load up on all the test for bulking and switch over for the precon/contest, but you know this. so he comes in the pad. he gets 4 brovels(cyp/200mg/10ml) 1 bottle goes in the right bicep, one in the left. then he repeated the sequence with the left. he didn't use synthol, because he considered it cheating. he did that sequence m,w,f! he didn't do those big doses at home because he said his lady would freak if she knew, so he just did all the orals and the eq and deca at home.
another pal, for calve training alone, use to take sten and inj. dbol, and hit EACH CALVE with 19 1inch 29 gauge needles in each calve before blasting calves. he didn't count that as part of the array of aas.
so, yeah, these huge guys, they use  ALOT of shit.
remember, bodybuilders are some of the most obsessive compulsive peeps on the face of the earth. trust me, it's not uncommon.

  That is the stupidest thing I have ever read. Maybe I am wrong,but who the fuck injects 10 cc's of gear in each of their biceps at 1 time?
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: Parker on October 09, 2006, 07:16:01 AM
That pic or Ray, Nasser, and Dorian, shows Nasser with a better back than Jay, and Nasser was known for having a shitty back. Flex said Nasser has back flatter than a pancake.

Damn, I miss the 90's that is when bodybuilder actually lookd the best...but it was also when they started to  go down hill. Take a Look at the first pic with Fux and Nasser, Fux whas know to have one of the biggest GH bellies in bbing history, then and now.
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: Mussolini on October 09, 2006, 08:01:16 AM
i'll preface this by saying that this is NOT an attack on you, okay? but... you'd be really surprised what a real "stack" is. having, at one time, dealt with many pros, the things i've seen them do would boggle the mind. be it 'aas, or recs.
ex:one dude, a real cool, huge dude, that passed away in the late '90s, he used to come by and get his shit. mind you, even back in the late '90s you could still get fairly decent and cheap mex products like brovel and tornel test. these guys load up on all the test for bulking and switch over for the precon/contest, but you know this. so he comes in the pad. he gets 4 brovels(cyp/200mg/10ml) 1 bottle goes in the right bicep, one in the left. then he repeated the sequence with the left. he didn't use synthol, because he considered it cheating. he did that sequence m,w,f! he didn't do those big doses at home because he said his lady would freak if she knew, so he just did all the orals and the eq and deca at home.
another pal, for calve training alone, use to take sten and inj. dbol, and hit EACH CALVE with 19 1inch 29 gauge needles in each calve before blasting calves. he didn't count that as part of the array of aas.
so, yeah, these huge guys, they use  ALOT of shit.
remember, bodybuilders are some of the most obsessive compulsive peeps on the face of the earth. trust me, it's not uncommon.


Are you talking about Curtis? How did these guys mabey for suck crazy amounts?
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: raskil on October 09, 2006, 08:13:56 AM
that pic is not photoshopped, bro'. if you've ever met yates in real life in his prime, you'd know this.

Hi...
I know 100% that that pic is morphed because I'm the person who morphed it ...maybe 5 or 6 years ago... I've seen it crop up all over the place since then...and usually people seem to assume it's real!!! Well, it's not. The original is impressive enough.
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: venom gang.bronze on October 09, 2006, 01:17:31 PM
  That is the stupidest thing I have ever read. Maybe I am wrong,but who the f**k injects 10 cc's of gear in each of their biceps at 1 time?
even if i gave you names, you still wouldn't believe it. why do you think some of these guys bodyparts look so crazy- genetics? think again. like i said, it's way past most of your experience, as you've never been "in the trenches."
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: fearANDloathing on October 11, 2006, 04:18:11 AM
He was the first IFBB pro that I ever met.  He was guest posing at a show in AL around '97-'98.  Nice guy and very professional...

Agreed.  I met him when he was leaving Madison Square Garden after the Olympia pre judging. VERY cool guy and even though you could see he was tired, he stopped briefly to talk  with a few of us. I wish him well.
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: Mussolini on October 12, 2006, 07:59:47 PM
ttt
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: buffbodz on October 13, 2006, 09:20:11 AM
In 98' when Dorian retired, I thought Naz or Flex would be the next O.  Than along came a cat named Ronnie....That took allot out of Naz and His placings went down and down from their on out.
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: HUGEPECS on October 13, 2006, 09:26:12 AM
Nasser gave up, because his monkey ass couldn't tolerate the gears no more, synthol got the best of him
Title: Re: why nasser gave up
Post by: knny187 on October 13, 2006, 01:59:45 PM
Nasser gave up, because his monkey ass couldn't tolerate the gears no more, synthol got the best of him


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