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Title: Why isnt Dexter Jackson Mr. Olympia?
Post by: disco_stu on October 07, 2006, 07:56:44 PM
i finally got around to checking out the flexonline galleries for the 'O.

they have a full page of prejudging compulsories featuring a bunch of pics of Victor, Dex, Jay and Ronnie.

Looking at EACH pic i cannot for the life of me work out why Dex isnt Mr. O.

He looks better than the other guys in every pose. not just some, but every single pose.

Even his back looks balanced and insanely tapered.

Forget the Ronnie and Jay show, Dex was the best in '06....but then again probably in 04 and 05 as well.

checkout this pic....ya gotta laugh....the Mr.O is the guy with the waist like a 'fridge with a checkerboard on it.


(http://www.flexonline.com/06contests/06olympia/menpre1/images/aabj0488.jpg)
Title: Re: cant believe it.....
Post by: Rearden Metal on October 07, 2006, 08:00:08 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: cant believe it.....
Post by: Jr. Yates on October 07, 2006, 08:01:51 PM
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I wouldn't roll my eyes. I can agree with him. If the IFBB judged by their own rules Dex would be Mr. O right now with Vic 2nd.
Title: Re: cant believe it.....
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on October 07, 2006, 08:03:04 PM
yeah but put him next to the other guys and he is tiny.
 same reason why shawn ray didnt win.
looks damn near perfect alone, then he stands next to dorian.
dorian stands up straight and spreads his lats in the 'relaxed' pose.
lights out for shawn.
Title: Re: cant believe it.....
Post by: CQ on October 07, 2006, 08:05:13 PM
I will never in my life get over Ronnie beating Dex in the ab/thigh call out in the Challenge round debacle of 2004. I was there and have never heard such vociferous booing in my life. Literally.
Title: Re: cant believe it.....
Post by: Adam Empire on October 07, 2006, 08:06:05 PM
Remember there is a "Muscularity" round...

Also, he is invisible below the knees.
Title: Re: cant believe it.....
Post by: Jr. Yates on October 07, 2006, 08:06:39 PM
I will never in my life get over Ronnie beating Dex in the ab/thigh call out in the Challenge round debacle of 2004. I was there and have never heard such vociferous booing in my life. Literally.
yes i won't forget that one! it was so stupid i had to laugh.
Title: Re: cant believe it.....
Post by: Stavios on October 07, 2006, 08:11:19 PM
Remember there is a "Muscularity" round...

Also, he is invisible below the knees.

his quads are pretty good actually be he lacks mass and separation in the hams departement
Title: Re: cant believe it.....
Post by: CQ on October 07, 2006, 08:12:59 PM
I have a huge memory of it too, as when they judges gave the score, like many others my friend and I booed, and we had mega-Ronnie fan sitting in front of us who proceeded to try and start a big fight with us, he turned around, f__ked us off, stood up all out of his seat in our faces etc. Bear in mind my friend and I are both don't even weigh 250lbs combined and we have this big beast all in our grill. All the guys behind us stood up for us [which was very nice as they were strangers].

I was quite worried that a big fight would ensue, and I would return to log onto to getbig and see my bloody face beaten to a pulp all over threads. :D
Title: Re: cant believe it.....
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on October 07, 2006, 08:25:46 PM
I will never in my life get over Ronnie beating Dex in the ab/thigh call out in the Challenge round debacle of 2004. I was there and have never heard such vociferous booing in my life. Literally.
this was a vicious double-standard as dex beat ruhl in that same pose, and ruhl destroyed him in every way.
Title: Re: cant believe it.....
Post by: Jr. Yates on October 07, 2006, 08:33:27 PM
I have a huge memory of it too, as when they judges gave the score, like many others my friend and I booed, and we had mega-Ronnie fan sitting in front of us who proceeded to try and start a big fight with us, he turned around, f__ked us off, stood up all out of his seat in our faces etc. Bear in mind my friend and I are both don't even weigh 250lbs combined and we have this big beast all in our grill. All the guys behind us stood up for us [which was very nice as they were strangers].

I was quite worried that a big fight would ensue, and I would return to log onto to getbig and see my bloody face beaten to a pulp all over threads. :D
hahahaha! that is awesome!! good job man!
Title: Re: cant believe it.....
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on October 07, 2006, 09:54:23 PM
i finally got around to checking out the flexonline galleries for the 'O.

they have a full page of prejudging compulsories featuring a bunch of pics of Victor, Dex, Jay and Ronnie.

Looking at EACH pic i cannot for the life of me work out why Dex isnt Mr. O.

He looks better than the other guys in every pose. not just some, but every single pose.

Even his back looks balanced and insanely tapered.

Forget the Ronnie and Jay show, Dex was the best in '06....but then again probably in 04 and 05 as well.

checkout this pic....ya gotta laugh....the Mr.O is the guy with the waist like a 'fridge with a checkerboard on it.


(http://www.flexonline.com/06contests/06olympia/menpre1/images/aabj0488.jpg)

POLITICS...........there were about about 5-6 people that were better than Ronnie and Jay!
Title: Re: Why isnt Dexter Jackson Mr. Olympia?
Post by: IceCold on October 08, 2006, 09:34:13 PM
dex is one of the most overrated guys.

hasnt changed in since 2001.

small with no back and calves. 

he's too small.  he never will or should win the Olympia.
Title: Re: cant believe it.....
Post by: John Romano on October 08, 2006, 10:30:30 PM
I will never in my life get over Ronnie beating Dex in the ab/thigh call out in the Challenge round debacle of 2004. I was there and have never heard such vociferous booing in my life. Literally.

I'll second that!!
Title: Re: Why isnt Dexter Jackson Mr. Olympia?
Post by: ReEvolution on October 08, 2006, 11:48:57 PM
too small....end of story

will never win the O
Title: Re: Why isnt Dexter Jackson Mr. Olympia?
Post by: Rottmag on October 09, 2006, 12:29:43 AM
Dexter was expected to make all types of waves and whatnot prior to the last AC when he took a entire year off to make incredible gains and bring in a "new" Dexter Jackson .. .. .. with insane conditioning and size on him like we'd never seen before.. .. .. or so we were spoon fed for so long.

Then he had some personal issues [I have no idea what they were] and barely made it to the AC, won it, looking absolutely no different than he did 12 months prior!

At this year's Mr. O he was lucky to have placed where he did, as it was the Saurday evening show that got him to his final placing. He looked very ordinary in the pre-judging [by all accounts] and seem to dial it in as the hours ticked by. X-mas came a little early for The Blade. Melvin was much better than him in every facet, simply Marvelous; and you can throw Toney Freeman in their also. Gustavo simply got [another] gift.

As far as I'm concerned, Dexter's had his 15 minutes. Like someone said: throw him among the Big Boyz and Dexter is no different to Monica Brant staring at the Miss. Figure O scoreboard .. .. .. completely lost and dumbfounded!

Stick a fork into him.
Title: Re: cant believe it.....
Post by: Hedgehog on October 09, 2006, 02:24:18 AM
POLITICS...........there were about about 5-6 people that were better than Ronnie and Jay!

Ain't that the truth brotha. Preach on!

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: Why isnt Dexter Jackson Mr. Olympia?
Post by: rccs on October 09, 2006, 03:12:56 AM
i finally got around to checking out the flexonline galleries for the 'O.

they have a full page of prejudging compulsories featuring a bunch of pics of Victor, Dex, Jay and Ronnie.

Looking at EACH pic i cannot for the life of me work out why Dex isnt Mr. O.

He looks better than the other guys in every pose. not just some, but every single pose.

Even his back looks balanced and insanely tapered.

Forget the Ronnie and Jay show, Dex was the best in '06....but then again probably in 04 and 05 as well.

checkout this pic....ya gotta laugh....the Mr.O is the guy with the waist like a 'fridge with a checkerboard on it.


(http://www.flexonline.com/06contests/06olympia/menpre1/images/aabj0488.jpg)
probably in Liliput he could win!
Title: Re: Why isnt Dexter Jackson Mr. Olympia?
Post by: Figo on October 09, 2006, 03:28:37 AM
Dex got a great physique, just the scale is wrong, 1:10.
Far too small a structure to hang with the big boys, which begs the thought, HOW did Franco & Dickerson win their Sandows? Franco, because he was Arnolds towel boy(and deemed to have paid his dues), and Dickerson surely blew the whole judging panel.
Lots of "smaller" men have had great physiques, and given the shaft, such as Priest, everyone talks of Ray, but there were years when Labrada looked better than him. Brisbois, Padilla, and of course all 4'11" of Flavio.

In that pic, however, the Mr O, is Vic, imo.
Title: Re: Why isnt Dexter Jackson Mr. Olympia?
Post by: gatrainer on October 09, 2006, 03:44:06 AM
Topic: Why isnt Dexter Jackson Mr. Olympia?

Because he didnt win
Title: Re: Why isnt Dexter Jackson Mr. Olympia?
Post by: adipo8 on October 09, 2006, 06:34:17 AM
Dexter was expected to make all types of waves and whatnot prior to the last AC when he took a entire year off to make incredible gains and bring in a "new" Dexter Jackson .. .. .. with insane conditioning and size on him like we'd never seen before.. .. .. or so we were spoon fed for so long.

Then he had some personal issues [I have no idea what they were] and barely made it to the AC, won it, looking absolutely no different than he did 12 months prior!

At this year's Mr. O he was lucky to have placed where he did, as it was the Saurday evening show that got him to his final placing. He looked very ordinary in the pre-judging [by all accounts] and seem to dial it in as the hours ticked by. X-mas came a little early for The Blade. Melvin was much better than him in every facet, simply Marvelous; and you can throw Toney Freeman in their also. Gustavo simply got [another] gift.

As far as I'm concerned, Dexter's had his 15 minutes. Like someone said: throw him among the Big Boyz and Dexter is no different to Monica Brant staring at the Miss. Figure O scoreboard .. .. .. completely lost and dumbfounded!

Stick a fork into him.

TRUE STORY-
getting 4th at the Olympia and heading back to the A is not a good look. His body is MAXED and that is not a bad thing , however if someone is bigger- Melvin , more condition - VIctor or More shape, bigger and condition - XMAN , or Newer face - Phil Heath then we have a huge exciting show and oh yeah - Gustavo - stay home this year.. you are still spending toney freeman's money .... so stay home ...

THE 2007 ARNOLD IS GOING TO BE THE BEST SHOW OF 2007 !  TRUE STORY - YOU HEARD IT HEAR FIRST
Title: Re: Why isnt Dexter Jackson Mr. Olympia?
Post by: BEAST 8692 on October 09, 2006, 07:10:55 AM
simple answer. jay and ronnie make him look like a boy standing next to men.

dex lacks the size, condition, muscularity, proportion, freakiness and maturity to be realistically considered mr o material.
Title: Re: Why isnt Dexter Jackson Mr. Olympia?
Post by: MikeThaMachine on October 09, 2006, 08:52:18 AM
Dex needs more leg seperation and some calves, like with preist (whose legs are great)also he needs something other then just stellar arms to set him apart from the others.
Title: Re: Why isnt Dexter Jackson Mr. Olympia?
Post by: theonlyone on October 09, 2006, 08:52:36 AM
i finally got around to checking out the flexonline galleries for the 'O.

they have a full page of prejudging compulsories featuring a bunch of pics of Victor, Dex, Jay and Ronnie.

Looking at EACH pic i cannot for the life of me work out why Dex isnt Mr. O.

He looks better than the other guys in every pose. not just some, but every single pose.

Even his back looks balanced and insanely tapered.

Forget the Ronnie and Jay show, Dex was the best in '06....but then again probably in 04 and 05 as well.

checkout this pic....ya gotta laugh....the Mr.O is the guy with the waist like a 'fridge with a checkerboard on it.


(http://www.flexonline.com/06contests/06olympia/menpre1/images/aabj0488.jpg)

There are sprinters and gymnasts looking exactly like Dexter, let Mr O be a bodybuilder
Look at Dex's calves lol.
Title: Re: Why isnt Dexter Jackson Mr. Olympia?
Post by: Scimowser on October 09, 2006, 09:41:27 AM
there is no way in hell Ruhl or Ronnie should ever beat Dex in the ab and thigh pose. He lacks calves but his taper, stomach and arms are first class. The only let down is his legs which are still acceptable. atleast he has quad detail. At the Olympia though i think you could have placed Vic, Dex and Melvin in any position from 3-5 and nobody would have argued. I would have loved Melvin to finish 3rd, he was outstanding. Of anyone onstage, he was the biggest surprise and perhaps robbed of atleast 1 place
Title: Re: Why isnt Dexter Jackson Mr. Olympia?
Post by: bigkid on October 09, 2006, 10:37:38 AM
Dexter looks like a sprinter or gymnast?  BULLSHIT
Title: Re: Why isnt Dexter Jackson Mr. Olympia?
Post by: disco_stu on October 10, 2006, 01:42:55 PM
i think the responses here explain the reasons..

FAR too much is weighted for size these days. It's ok to be unsymmetrical, wide waisted and unbalanced if you are MASSIVE.

Basically if you dont look too bad, but are a behemoth, you win the 'O. The best of the behemoth's win it.

What a crock IMO.

And the comments about ''too small'', and ''disappears below the waist''. OMG. Alot of you guys say that Flex was the best of all time...well he was alot smaller than the Doz's and Ronnies, plus had obvious implants and flaws that Dex just doesnt have.

Next to the behemoth's, Flex lacked lats, pecs, quads, and was narrow in quad/ab  pose. now Dex looks picture perfect in front lat spread, front dbi, quad/abs and holds his own in the other poses....

i guess i can see why now, but just dont agree and it's really starting to push me away from following this ''past-time''/ ''obsession''.

Title: Re: Why isnt Dexter Jackson Mr. Olympia?
Post by: SUBTRACTION on October 10, 2006, 01:47:47 PM
   
Why isnt Dexter Jackson Mr. Olympia?

Because he looks like a teenage mutant ninja turtle.


Hope this helps.

Title: Re: Why isnt Dexter Jackson Mr. Olympia?
Post by: jaejonna on October 10, 2006, 01:49:10 PM
because Master Splinter told him to lose?
Title: Re: Why isnt Dexter Jackson Mr. Olympia?
Post by: MikeThaMachine on October 10, 2006, 01:52:44 PM
Flex's ab/thigh owns dex to such a great degree that I can't even fathom a reasonable response.


(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Arnold_Classic/1997/Arnold_Classic_1997_001.jpg)
Title: Re: Why isnt Dexter Jackson Mr. Olympia?
Post by: MikeThaMachine on October 10, 2006, 02:04:21 PM
(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Flex_Wheeler/Flex_Wheeler_004.jpg)

(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/British_GP/1999/British_GP_1999_012.jpg)
Title: Re: Why isnt Dexter Jackson Mr. Olympia?
Post by: pobrecito on October 10, 2006, 02:13:36 PM
Flex easily had the best ab/thigh of all times
Title: Re: Why isnt Dexter Jackson Mr. Olympia?
Post by: Rottmag on October 10, 2006, 02:22:49 PM

(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/British_GP/1999/British_GP_1999_012.jpg)

How on God's good earth did this man NOT win, at least, one damn Sandow?!?!?
Title: Re: Why isnt Dexter Jackson Mr. Olympia?
Post by: MikeThaMachine on October 10, 2006, 02:35:37 PM
Flex easily had the best ab/thigh of all times

Cormier has it in my book :o

(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Arnold_Classic/2004/Arnold_Classic_2004_159.jpg)

(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery//Ironman/1999/Ironman_1999_005.jpg)

(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Ironman/2002/Ironman_014.jpg) (http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Ironman/2002/Ironman_015.jpg)

(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/GNC_Pro/2002/GNC_Pro_039.jpg)
Title: Re: Why isnt Dexter Jackson Mr. Olympia?
Post by: Jr. Yates on October 10, 2006, 02:37:19 PM
Cormier has it in my book :o

he sure has a crazy ab/thigh pose thats forsure. wow. Chris had potential to be mr. O but had to be heavier with that condition.