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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Ozark on October 09, 2006, 12:21:47 PM
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Jay and Sergei comparisons
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and hams
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(http://www.flexonline.com/06contests/06romania/menpre/images/FDBE0192.jpg)
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Wow, those red X's look exactly alike.........
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Jay competed in the Mr 0 days before, 2 other contest before this one and flew across the world to get there to compete ::) Jay partied a bit after the O win to boot. remeber it was Miller time ;D
This guy prob trained his whole life for that show. Looks great but stop comparing Jay at 75 percent against some guy at 100 percent. its stupid. Not to mention he is not even that much sharper than Jay and Jay is at about 75 percent in these shots ::)
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is it me or does Ronnie look better than Jay in those shots? and Sergei does look very good regardless of how much Jay lost.
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Jay competed in the Mr 0 days before, 2 other contest before this one and flew across the world to get there to compete Roll Eyes Jay partied a bit after the O win to boot. remeber it was Miller time Grin
This guy prob trained his whole life for that show. Looks great but stop comparing Jay at 75 percent against some guy at 100 percent. its stupid. Not to mention he is not even that much sharper than Jay and Jay is at about 75 percent in these shots
your post makes no sense,
you say to stop comparing Jay...
well if he does not want to be compared to someone, then don't stand next to someone on stage (to be compared )
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Ronnie looks very good here!
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your post makes no sense,
you say to stop comparing Jay...
well if he does not want to be compared to someone, then don't stand next to someone on stage (to be compared )
That's how it goes.
The top guys CAN'T be at 100% after doing the O, and mulitple shows in multiple days. Just can't happen.
But, if you want them to go to these podunk shows (which are basically guest posings for the top guys, and a chance for someone like Alex Federov to make a splash), you have to accept that they are going to win.
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looks like ronald should have won this one, with that other guy in 2nd
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your post makes no sense,
you say to stop comparing Jay...
well if he does not want to be compared to someone, then don't stand next to someone on stage (to be compared )
BOOYA!
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Cutler looks like dogshit and always has bar 2001 mr o and 2003 ironman.
How are there some many gullible idiots around that worship this guy.
He's blatantly number three in those pics.
God help the ifbb
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That's how it goes.
The top guys CAN'T be at 100% after doing the O, and mulitple shows in multiple days. Just can't happen.
But, if you want them to go to these podunk shows (which are basically guest posings for the top guys, and a chance for someone like Alex Federov to make a splash), you have to accept that they are going to win.
This is exactly right. Well said.
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Cutler looks like dogshit and always has bar 2001 mr o and 2003 ironman.
How are there some many gullible idiots around that worship this guy.
He's blatantly number three in those pics.
God help the ifbb
Yup
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your post makes no sense,
you say to stop comparing Jay...
well if he does not want to be compared to someone, then don't stand next to someone on stage (to be compared )
My post makes perfect sense. That guy prob trained his whole life for that show. I am not taking anything away from him either he looks great! Cutler came in after taking the O, flying across the world and falling to about 75 percent of what he was. I said stop acting like this guy is so great and Jay sucks. Yes Jay looks way less sharp. What do you expect him to be in Olympia shape a week after ::) The Jay being "compared" to this guy is no where near what he would look like if he had not just competed in the Olympia flown across the world and then competed in 3 grand prix shows. Not to mention prob has been eating what he wanted since the O.
You are trying to ask how Cutler could be Mr O or win Gp shows when this unknown is better than him. Only problem is Jay is not even close to 100 percent and has been competing for 2 weeks. So yes this guy looks better than a 70 percent Jay. Cutler is still bigger and has better hams lol.
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My post makes perfect sense. That guy prob trained his whole life for that show. I am not taking anything away from him either he looks great! Cutler came in after taking the O, flying across the world and falling to about 75 percent of what he was. I said stop acting like this guy is so great and Jay sucks. Yes Jay looks way less sharp. What do you expect him to be in Olympia shape a week after Roll Eyes The Jay being "compared" to this guy is no where near what he would look like if he had not just competed in the Olympia flown across the world and then competed in 3 grand prix shows. Not to mention prob has been eating what he wanted since the O.
You are trying to ask how Cutler could be Mr O or win Gp shows when this unknown is better than him. Only problem is Jay is not even close to 100 percent and has been competing for 2 weeks. So yes this guy looks better than a 70 percent Jay. Cutler is still bigger and has better hams lol.
"Jay has better hams.... ?
Jay is built, but in no way does Jay have bigger hams that the Russian , and as for your assessment on not comparing Jay to the Russian, that is about the most absurd thing ever written on here, I agree 100 % with the fact if he stands on stage, he is open to comparison, "
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(http://www.flexonline.com/06contests/06romania/menpre/images/FDBE0210.jpg)
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"Jay has better hams.... "r u smokin crack or what ?
Jay is built, but in no way does Jay have bigger hams that the Russian , and as for your assessment on not comparing Jay to the Russian, that is about the most absurd thing ever written on here, I agree 100 % with the fact if he stands on stage, he is open to comparison, "
(http://www.flexonline.com/06contests/06romania/menpre/images/FDBE0202.jpg)
(http://www.flexonline.com/06contests/06romania/menpre/images/FDBE0210.jpg)
You guys are brutal!!!!!!!!!!! I meant you cannot compare a 70 percent Cutler to a 100 percent Russian. You can literally compare the two, but anyone with common sense would understand Cutler was not even close to 100 percent. That is what I was trying to say. Not you cannot even compare the two on stage. Basically like playing a football team missing half its star starters then thundering at your victory while half the team was out. You can play the game but you did not truly win. Yes the Russian looks better than Jay at 70 percent , 1 week after the O, after two gp shows,flying half way across the world, partying after the O, and not strictly dieting. Good work Russian!!!
Also when the original pics where posted none showed up for me other than a rear double bi. In that shot Cutlers hams where much more detailed from the back. So calm down there killer. You know Jay is not even close to his Olympia form in these shots. That Russian has prob trained his whole life for that show. he looked fantastic. But unless he was at the O and against a 100 percent jay Cutler these pictures do not mean shit. Jay is not in his best shape. How could he be? Guys been competing/traveling/celebrating all week
Also these pictures are shot from angles that make Jay look less detailed than he is. You cannot even get a clear view of his ham from the side due to the angle/lighting ::)
Why are you not comenting how the Russian looks better than Ronnie in these shots? he does right?
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You guys are brutal!!!!!!!!!!! I meant you cannot compare a 70 percent Cutler to a 100 percent Russian. You can literally compare the two, but anyone with common sense would understand Cutler was not even close to 100 percent. That is what I was trying to say. Not you cannot even compare the two on stage. Basically like playing a football team missing half its star starters then thundering at your victory while half the team was out. You can play the game but you did not truly win. Yes the Russian looks better than Jay at 70 percent , 1 week after the O, after two gp shows,flying half way across the world, partying after the O, and not strictly dieting. Good work Russian!!!
Also when the original pics where posted none showed up for me other than a rear double bi. In that shot Cutlers hams where much more detailed from the back. So calm down there killer. You know Jay is not even close to his Olympia form in these shots. That Russian has prob trained his whole life for that show. he looked fantastic. But unless he was at the O and against a 100 percent jay Cutler these pictures do not mean shit. Jay is not in his best shape. How could he be? Guys been competing/traveling/celebrating all week
for the last time....
your argument is baseless.
What is a bodybuilding contest ? it is a body to body comparison,
so your statement that these 2 should not be compared is hilarious,
if they shouldn't, then why are they fucking standing next to each other hitting poses ?
body88, but you need to get a clue.
a bodybuilding contest is a contest of bodies on that day, that moment, and on that particular day, the Russian looked better,
end of argument !
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This guy prob trained his whole life for that show. Looks great but stop comparing Jay at 75 percent against some guy at 100 percent. its stupid. Not to mention he is not even that much sharper than Jay and Jay is at about 75 percent in these shots
by body88
your words , :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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by body88
your words , you dumb piece of shit
now f**k off !!!
Then I explained what I meant by that in the second post. Then explained further by stating I did not mean you cannot compare them literally. You either did not read the second post are are completely retarded.
You know what nevermind ::)
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then I said this , then I said that, should coulda woulda, I meant to say this, I meant to say that... by body88
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then I said this , then I said that, should coulda woulda, I meant to say this, I meant to say that... by body88
f**k off loser :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Eldon are you a bodybuilder?
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yes, competed for 5 years, and many times I came in on peak, and many times not, but in each contest, what I brought to the contest is what I brought, no excuses of 70 %....... or I had to travel the furthest , so give me the 1st place trophy
unlike you and your excuses off dont compare cause he is only 60 % 70% 82 % 91 % 98 % !
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yes, competed for 5 years, and many times I came in on peak, and many times not, but in each contest, what I brought to the contest is what I brought, no excuses
unlike you and your excuses off dont compare cause he is only 60 % 70% 82 % 91 % 98 % !
What I was trying to say was this. You would not take into account the fact Cutler had just won the Olympia, partied, travled across the world competed all week and not been dieting strictly? I was not saying you cannot literally compare them. I was stating this guy was at 100 percent while cutler was run down and at about 70 percent. Those pictures do not prove anything. They prove Jay is human and cannot stay at 100 percent.
You think I was saying they souhld not be compared on stage. That is not what I was saying.
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body88,
I like Jay, I think he has a great build.
but on that day, he got beat in my opinion by the Russian, at least in the photos .
nothing more, and nothing less.
That is all, end of story,
there is no need to come on here and tell people that they should not compare him as he is not 100 % cause he did this or did that.
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body88,
I like Jay, I think he has a great build.
but on that day, he got beat in my opinion by the Russian, at least in the photos .
that is all, end of story,
there is no need to come on here and tell people that they should not compare him as he is not 100 % cause he did this or did that.
Again you are implying I was saying they should not be compared literally. That is not what I was trying to say.
We will agree to disagree. The Russian looked good.
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Again you are implying I was saying they should not be compared literally. That is not what I was trying to say.
We will agree to disagree. The Russian looked good.
agree
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yes, competed for 5 years, and many times I came in on peak, and many times not, but in each contest, what I brought to the contest is what I brought, no excuses of 70 %....... or I had to travel the furthest , so give me the 1st place trophy
unlike you and your excuses off dont compare cause he is only 60 % 70% 82 % 91 % 98 % !
Hey Noob, you need to chill the fuck out!
You have a point, but settle with the "heads will be flown" attitude I get from your posts.
Fair Dinkum.
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Oh, for fuck's sake. If this Russian is/was so good, he would have been on the Olympia stage where he belonged. He didn't, that why he is competing in some outlying contest against bb's that have already peaked, are traveling and having some fun. Get some perspective, noob.
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TEAM RUSSIAAAAAAAAAAA
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Federov syndrome ;)
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Eldon are you a bodybuilder?
Body, is that Andre Agassi in your pic from the early nineties or is it you with a mullet. Classic dude. BTW, enjoy the gifts your boy is getting. It will probably last no longer for one year when the higher ups realize that Jay Cutler is going to do as much for pro bodybuilding as Ronnie...absolutely frickin nothing. Might as well give it to the guy with the best physique then. That leaves Gutler out in the cold.
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Body, is that Andre Agassi in your pic from the early nineties or is it you with a mullet. Classic dude. BTW, enjoy the gifts your boy is getting. It will probably last no longer for one year when the higher ups realize that Jay Cutler is going to do as much for pro bodybuilding as Ronnie...absolutely frickin nothing. Might as well give it to the guy with the best physique then. That leaves Gutler out in the cold.
That is Andre Agassi.... Take one look at that mullet man. Only see ones like that down south!
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Body80's how many time had you repeated in this thread that russian guy was exactly 100 % and Jay 70 %? How would you know its about 65 - 70 or 44 - 92?
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In case you don't know, that guy was at the santa susanna grand prix and finished 7th...
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Sergei ( Shelestov) is very good in this contest. good symmetry,shoulders,back,pecs,calves,chest... all is at the top nivel....
It is a scandal what he was seventh in santa susanna contest.
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You guys are brutal!!!!!!!!!!! I meant you cannot compare a 70 percent Cutler to a 100 percent Russian. You can literally compare the two, but anyone with common sense would understand Cutler was not even close to 100 percent. That is what I was trying to say. Not you cannot even compare the two on stage. Basically like playing a football team missing half its star starters then thundering at your victory while half the team was out. You can play the game but you did not truly win. Yes the Russian looks better than Jay at 70 percent , 1 week after the O, after two gp shows,flying half way across the world, partying after the O, and not strictly dieting. Good work Russian!!!
Also when the original pics where posted none showed up for me other than a rear double bi. In that shot Cutlers hams where much more detailed from the back. So calm down there killer. You know Jay is not even close to his Olympia form in these shots. That Russian has prob trained his whole life for that show. he looked fantastic. But unless he was at the O and against a 100 percent jay Cutler these pictures do not mean shit. Jay is not in his best shape. How could he be? Guys been competing/traveling/celebrating all week
Also these pictures are shot from angles that make Jay look less detailed than he is. You cannot even get a clear view of his ham from the side due to the angle/lighting ::)
Why are you not comenting how the Russian looks better than Ronnie in these shots? he does right?
I understand and agree with you! Like I said before, Jay wasn't my favourite, but he won and he is the champ. A champion will always be a subject for criticism and envey! That's how the world is, some can do it and some can't, face it!
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and hams
(http://www.flexonline.com/06contests/06romania/menpre/images/FDBE0303.jpg)
(http://www.flexonline.com/06contests/06romania/menpre/images/FDBE0192.jpg)
You guys like those wide midsections huh?
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shelestov beat jay in those pics...ronnie, rockel, melvin, shelestov..all these guys are better than jay.... jay would be crushed in the 90s by levrone, ray, dillet, yates etc...
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Any doubt,Shelestov is the best russian bodybuilder far away Federov....
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Body80's how many time had you repeated in this thread that russian guy was exactly 100 % and Jay 70 %? How would you know its about 65 - 70 or 44 - 92?
If you think Jay was anywhere close to his best you need to get your head checked. Their "percents" where not meant to be taken literally. Just like I was literally not saying they should not even be compared in the privious threads. You guys hear what you want ::) It was an estimation. That Russian looked to be in awesome shape. Jay has been competing, traveling and celebrating since the O. Get over it . You guys say Jays win was cheapened against a "off" Coleman at the O. Well this Russian is competing against an off/not even close to Olympia form Cutler. Great Job Russian ::) Funny how no one is saying he looked better than Coleman also ::)
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"Jay has better hams.... ?
Jay is built, but in no way does Jay have bigger hams that the Russian , and as for your assessment on not comparing Jay to the Russian, that is about the most absurd thing ever written on here, I agree 100 % with the fact if he stands on stage, he is open to comparison, "
(http://www.flexonline.com/06contests/06romania/menpre/images/FDBE0202.jpg)
(http://www.flexonline.com/06contests/06romania/menpre/images/FDBE0210.jpg)
Jay's a bit drier but the Russian owns both him and Ronnie in those pics.
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Hey Noob, you need to chill the f**k out!
You have a point, but settle with the "heads will be flown" attitude I get from your posts.
Fair Dinkum.
FYI, I have been a member of Getbig for over 2 years, used to post under a different name, but lost the password
I don't see your point,
but if ever you want to tell me to chill in person, just let me know when and where.
Later
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to compare to Shelestov,Jay seems a " dwarf " !!!
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(http://www.flexonline.com/06contests/06romania/menpre/images/FDBE0313.jpg)
Seriously Sergei's back looks superior to Jay's. WTF
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Sorry for the new mr olympia and his second ,but in the romania grand prix Shelestov was the best ...
Look the photos of contest... A new very great bodybuilder is just in ...
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lOOK THE PHOTOS OF COMPARISONS BETWEEN RONNIE , JAY AND SERGEI DURING THE ROMANIA CONTEST.
WHO IS THE BEST ? FOR ME,AND I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE,SERGEI WAS THE BEST. HIS BACK IS PHENOMENAL,AND HE IS ALSO BETTER IN ALL. ( LEGS - SHOULDERS - PECS - CHEST ...)