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Title: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: 240 is Back on October 10, 2006, 11:17:20 AM
After hearing the replay of Troy Alves making statements like "I beat Branch, Dennis & Gunter" and "Lee Priest Should be Suspended", what is one word you'd use to describe the guy?
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: MAXX on October 10, 2006, 11:19:18 AM
crybaby
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: Jr. Yates on October 10, 2006, 11:19:39 AM
confident. Hes just speaking his mind. thats fine if thats the way he sees it. I disagree with him. but whatev.
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: Yorkie T on October 10, 2006, 11:20:07 AM
smallchinandbigears
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: Your MAAAAaaaa on October 10, 2006, 11:20:15 AM
whiner, i thought he looked great at the O however!

ta ta
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: flexingtonsteele on October 10, 2006, 12:37:44 PM
2 words

PDI bound
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: stomper on October 10, 2006, 12:50:50 PM
def. was not in best of shape at the o
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: Naked4Jesus on October 10, 2006, 12:52:59 PM
After hearing the replay of Troy Alves making statements like "I beat Branch, Dennis & Gunter" and "Lee Priest Should be Suspended", what is one word you'd use to describe the guy?

dreamer
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: Jr. Yates on October 10, 2006, 12:59:13 PM
dreamer
well you kinda have to be in that "sport." if you don't dream, nothing will happen. that goes for most things in life.
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: Tre on October 10, 2006, 01:01:13 PM

FuturePDIChamp
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: jaejonna on October 10, 2006, 01:03:59 PM
Delusional.... and a little whiney if you asked me
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: dookie on October 10, 2006, 01:21:17 PM
After hearing the replay of Troy Alves making statements like "I beat Branch, Dennis & Gunter" and "Lee Priest Should be Suspended", what is one word you'd use to describe the guy?


IMO he did beat those guys.  he got overlooked on the hype those other names usually bring.  if branch didnt score 2nd at the arnold, no way he places as he did.    gunter, keeps riding his gnc win over ronnie for gift placings and   dennis....well ok, i agree, dennis beat him. 
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: MikeThaMachine on October 10, 2006, 01:24:46 PM

IMO he did beat those guys.  he got overlooked on the hype those other names usually bring.  if branch didnt score 2nd at the arnold, no way he places as he did.    gunter, keeps riding his gnc win over ronnie for gift placings and   dennis....well ok, i agree, dennis beat him. 

That's over 50 words, far from the amount resquested. ::)
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: doison on October 10, 2006, 01:25:25 PM
yawn
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: dookie on October 10, 2006, 01:25:59 PM
That's over 50 words, far from the amount resquested. ::)

lol.....i just caught the title of the thread....i abused my word limit...
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: MikeThaMachine on October 10, 2006, 01:28:28 PM
lol.....i just caught the title of the thread....i abused my word limit...

You should just use your s/n to describe him. He's good and has good shape but in no position to trash talk those who have dominated him his whole career.
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: bigkid on October 10, 2006, 01:34:50 PM
Troy looked great at the O.
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: Brian_Bullman on October 10, 2006, 01:35:27 PM
Gentleman

Troy IMO does not have any delusions of grandure about his physique, going by the pics he did beat those guys and did deserve to be in the top 10. After his appearance at the Colorado Pro he put his hand up and admitted that he was holding more water than the hoover damb  :o Sorry Bro had to get that in there!!

The Sport needs more guys like Troy
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: IceCold on October 10, 2006, 01:38:19 PM
gunter should have not been in the top 10.

troy looked good, but he his lower body runis everything when he turns out.

dennis looked good and should have placed a few spots higher.

troy has not duplicated his conditioning from the 2003 Olympia when he got 8th. 
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: tommywishbone on October 10, 2006, 01:40:17 PM
OK
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: gordiano on October 10, 2006, 02:31:04 PM

IMO he did beat those guys.  he got overlooked on the hype those other names usually bring.  if branch didnt score 2nd at the arnold, no way he places as he did.    gunter, keeps riding his gnc win over ronnie for gift placings and   dennis....well ok, i agree, dennis beat him. 

Yeah, you're right. He did get overlooked. Happens to him all the time.
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on October 10, 2006, 04:16:59 PM
Honest.... Troy had reasons for everything he said, plus he mentioned that he had the most respect for all the other competitors. He got screwed.... he looked pretty good.
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: Bast000 on October 10, 2006, 04:17:23 PM
mixed
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: ManBearPig... on October 10, 2006, 04:57:32 PM
slave
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: 240 is Back on October 10, 2006, 09:01:13 PM
alves is gonna need a nickname soon.
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on October 10, 2006, 09:06:16 PM
Since Alves thinks that Lee Priest should be suspended..... I have to say he is either carb depleted or just plan dumb....
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: 240 is Back on October 10, 2006, 09:09:01 PM
Maybe Alves hates money and increased opportunity.
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: Chick on October 10, 2006, 09:10:09 PM
Since Alves thinks that Lee Priest should be suspended..... I have to say he is either carb depleted or just plan dumb....

Why? All he did was state the obvious...It's in the rules, you agree to the rules when you renew the card.
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on October 10, 2006, 09:11:26 PM
Maybe, Alves is delusional and thinks he is a better bodybuilder than Lee ever was......Either way, it leads Troy to a short road of nowhere...LoL...... ::)
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: Palpatine Q on October 10, 2006, 09:11:50 PM
almost
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: Ron on October 10, 2006, 09:13:28 PM

Alves did get overlooked at the Olympia - he was in great shape, and unfortuantely, there are always a few people that dont get the callouts that they want or needed to be compared. 

Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: DragonsBreath on October 10, 2006, 09:14:12 PM
They're (the IFBB guys) are afraid of the consequences. Deep down inside, some would make the jump to the PDI. Especially if the money is right.

So, Bob, you're saying that if there was a PDI show with a first place prize at $250K, you STILL wouldn't go? Given the chance that you actually have a chance to win. I'd think you and LOTS of others would be GONE!
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on October 10, 2006, 09:14:52 PM
Why? All he did was state the obvious...It's in the rules, you agree to the rules when you renew the card.

Bob, Glad to hear you chime in....I always love to hear your opinion on how well the IFBB conducts themselves......Since you backed Kamali on his success, I am sorry I lost total respect for you....He should have retired and left it up to those that deserve to compete at the top international level.....
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: one1234 on October 10, 2006, 09:15:47 PM
Chick paid Troy  $50 to say this.. ;D
And Chick why the hate on Ronnie. You repeatedly put him down...ohh he has jus won only 8 Os right... ???
And did u suggest that Alex fedorov might need to hang it up..hes only what...28.... ???

thanks
one

Since Alves thinks that Lee Priest should be suspended..... I have to say he is either carb depleted or just plan dumb....
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: Chick on October 10, 2006, 09:15:56 PM
They're (the IFBB guys) are afraid of the consequences. Deep down inside, some would make the jump to the PDI. Especially if the money is right.

So, Bob, you're saying that if there was a PDI show with a first place prize at $250K, you STILL wouldn't go? Given the chance that you actually have a chance to win. I'd think you and LOTS of others would be GONE!

If IF'S and BUT'S were candy and nuts...we'd all have a Merry Fuckin Christmas. ;D
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: Mobil on October 10, 2006, 09:16:19 PM
acneSCARS
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: Chick on October 10, 2006, 09:17:37 PM
Chick paid Troy  $50 to say this.. ;D
And Chick why the hate on Ronnie. You repeatedly put him down...ohh he has jus won only 8 Os right... ???
And did u suggest that Alex fedorov might need to hang it up..hes only what...28.... ???

thanks
one


Where's the hate?

I call it the way I see it...
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: one1234 on October 10, 2006, 09:18:24 PM
If IF'S and BUT'S were candy and nuts...we'd all have a Merry Fuckin Christmas. ;D
Chick,
we know  that u are the master of IFS....we hear ur radio shows..and is it just me or is it that u always
play the DEVILS advocate..
Merry fukin Christmas... ;D
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on October 10, 2006, 09:20:11 PM
If IF'S and BUT'S were candy and nuts...we'd all have a Merry Fuckin Christmas. ;D

Just like you supporting Kamali in his "so-called" success.....Come on be real for once....Wolfe beat king hands down and you still supported Kamali....Sorry, if  I don't call him King, he is an embarrassment to bodybuilding....As are you Bob, for your convictions that is.....Grow some balls and realize what is really going on in the IfBB.......
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: DragonsBreath on October 10, 2006, 09:20:30 PM
If IF'S and BUT'S were candy and nuts...we'd all have a Merry Fuckin Christmas. ;D

LOL! That was funny Bob!

But your rhymes don't answer the question.

$250K - 1st
$150K - 2nd
$100K - 3rd
$70K - 4th
$50K - 5th

You KNOW you'd be gone! Who would stay with the IFBB and for what?

Don't foget Bob, "money talks". You know that!
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on October 10, 2006, 09:22:58 PM
LOL! That was funny Bob!

But your rhymes don't answer the question.

$250K - 1st
$150K - 2nd
$100K - 3rd
$70K - 4th
$50K - 5th

You KNOW you'd be gone! Who would stay with the IFBB and for what?

Don't foget Bob, "money talks". You know that!


Bob will always support those who pay him the most look at his record......A total joke un-argued.....LoL....
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: Chick on October 10, 2006, 09:23:28 PM
Money does talk...and Bullshit walks.

Those are some mighty big If'$$$$$$$$.

Bottom line is, the WBF also offered some LEGIT big $$$, guaranteed contracts...and they did pull some big names from the IFBB....there were others that said "no thanks", and decided to wait and see what happened.

Like a old sond from Asia...only time will tell.
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on October 10, 2006, 09:31:37 PM
Money does talk...and Bullshit walks.

Those are some mighty big If'$$$$$$$$.

Bottom line is, the WBF also offered some LEGIT big $$$, guaranteed contracts...and they did pull some big names from the IFBB....there were others that said "no thanks", and decided to wait and see what happened.

Like a old sond from Asia...only time will tell.

Well Bob, I guess you have put it into perspective for me.....Not.....Just because you are on a downward slope doesn't mean other business's may also be....Think past yourself if you are capable of it.....Competition is out there regardless how the IFBB tries to throw water on it......Just an honest observation that will never be as good as yours, right BoB?????YOU JOKE......
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: DragonsBreath on October 10, 2006, 09:33:15 PM
Money does talk...and Bullshit walks.

Those are some mighty big If'$$$$$$$$.

Bottom line is, the WBF also offered some LEGIT big $$$, guaranteed contracts...and they did pull some big names from the IFBB....there were others that said "no thanks", and decided to wait and see what happened.

Like a old sond from Asia...only time will tell.

I knew the "bullshit walks" comment was coming! I left that one open for ya! You're welcome.

Now, the WBF was a pure joke! It was a bad attempt to mix bodybuilding with a fake organized (sorry wrestling fans, but the shit is fake) form of entertainment. Totally discrediting bodybuilding and it's hard work.

The PDI is simply another organization that gives "pros" another opportunity to make a living. Bodybuilding will never be a great source of income if the IFBB keeps monopolizing the whole damn sport.

Now, would you make the "jump" if the money was right? What's holding you back? Oh....the "rules".
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: Chick on October 10, 2006, 09:37:34 PM
No, I wouldn't.
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on October 10, 2006, 09:38:56 PM
I knew the "bullshit walks" comment was coming! I left that one open for ya! You're welcome.

Now, the WBF was a pure joke! It was a bad attempt to mix bodybuilding with a fake organized (sorry wrestling fans, but the shit is fake) form of entertainment. Totally discrediting bodybuilding and it's hard work.

The PDI is simply another organization that gives "pros" another opportunity to make a living. Bodybuilding will never be a great source of income if the IFBB keeps monopolizing the whole damn sport.

Now, would you make the "jump" if the money was right? What's holding you back? Oh....the "rules".

A very good point made here.......And Bob knows he would sell out too, if the the price was right.....He tried his whole professional bodybuilding career to become pro...It would be a hard fact for him to stomach another organization offering him more money to display his physique....Gosh, how the world turns.....
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: 240 is Back on October 10, 2006, 09:40:54 PM
No, I wouldn't.

If, at the end of your career as a pro bber, working as an unpaid athetes rep, and bbing.com/eggwhites rep.... you were offered a position for $2M a year with a guaranteed 10-year contract, to help run a new BBing.com federation, you would decline?
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: Chick on October 10, 2006, 09:41:34 PM
Correction...I wanted to become an IFBB PRO.

Big difference.

Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on October 10, 2006, 09:43:07 PM
No, I wouldn't.

You think you can change the IFBB Bob???? Please, you know that won't happen with you....It would be a conquest, but it is a joke to think that you could do it....I have heard your agenda before for the IFBB and you are still following their rules....Jerk us all off as much as you would like, but you would take the next best offer from another organization.....(Bob=A joke in the IFBB)......
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: AVBG on October 10, 2006, 09:44:03 PM
Correction...I wanted to become an IFBB PRO.

Big difference.



Chick, I havent listened to the Alves interview yet.. was the Getbig $50 question on the show? *& who won?

Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: DragonsBreath on October 10, 2006, 09:45:07 PM
No, I wouldn't.

Yeah, right! Yes the hell you would.

$250K for 1st place....? And you had a chance to win? Your ass would kiss the IFBB goodbye! Along with almost all.

Would you at least send a post card?

C'mon Bob. You know you would. Quit trying to play loyal "REP".
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on October 10, 2006, 09:45:33 PM
Correction...I wanted to become an IFBB PRO.

Big difference.



Who was your Correction towards BoB??????
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on October 10, 2006, 09:47:25 PM
Yeah, right! Yes the hell you would.

$250K for 1st place....? And you had a chance to win? Your ass would kiss the IFBB goodbye! Along with almost all.

Would you at least send a post card?

C'mon Bob. You know you would. Quit trying to play loyal "REP".

Bob has proved himself as a true butt-buddy to the IFBB.......If anyone disagrees, please state your facts to support it....
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: Chick on October 10, 2006, 09:47:33 PM
If, at the end of your career as a pro bber, working as an unpaid athetes rep, and bbing.com/eggwhites rep.... you were offered a position for $2M a year with a guaranteed 10-year contract, to help run a new BBing.com federation, you would decline?



It's a great hypothetical...but un-realistic.

Let someone offer it...I'll consider.
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on October 10, 2006, 09:50:11 PM

It's a great hypothetical...but un-realistic.

Let someone offer it...I'll consider.

Be real BoB.....You wouldn't consider shit....You would sell out the minute you found out the offer was legit....Quit forcing the IFBB to hang to your balls due to "War of the Worlds".......You joke of pros that you are........
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: 240 is Back on October 10, 2006, 09:50:36 PM

It's a great hypothetical...but un-realistic.

Let someone offer it...I'll consider.

I respect your honesty!

Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on October 10, 2006, 09:52:19 PM
I respect your honesty!



To bad he can never admit he is wrong right Rob????
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: DragonsBreath on October 10, 2006, 09:53:03 PM
240, that is unrealistic. Your post are getting worse.

Now, Bob.....(this is realistic), if you were offered a lucrative (let's say....$250K yearly) 3 year deal to help promote the PDI. Would you?

YES!
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: Chick on October 10, 2006, 09:54:34 PM
240, that is unrealistic. Your post are getting worse.

Now, Bob.....(this is realistic), if you were offered a lucrative (let's say....$250K yearly) 3 year deal to help promote the PDI. Would you?

YES!

No  way...

Taking a pay-cut wouldn't be too good of a business move where I come from...
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: DragonsBreath on October 10, 2006, 09:57:12 PM
Hahahha, there's a catch Bob! Guess what....?

You can STILL do what you do now and make the extra $250K a year for promoting the PDI.

NOW......would you?
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: Chick on October 10, 2006, 09:59:18 PM
Could I be managed by a certain coach of the Chicago Bears........



daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa a...DITKA!!!
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on October 10, 2006, 09:59:27 PM
No  way...

Taking a pay-cut wouldn't be too good of a business move where I come from...

Bob, Bob, Bob,.........He was simply stating that you would win more with the PDI....He had no clue of your revenue now....Seeing as how I know it doesn't pass 6 figures a year....And don't argue....There are many factors to this figure....Don't make the IFBB out to what it shouldn't be....This figure would include other figures that you are leaving out......
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: DragonsBreath on October 10, 2006, 10:04:24 PM
Could I be managed by a certain coach of the Chicago Bears........



daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa a...DITKA!!!

WHAT? That was silly Bob. Finish the carbs. You're starting to get silly.

So, what you're saying is: If Wayne made you an offer to help him promote the PDI for a minimum of $250K a year (for 3 years), you would officially resign as the IFBB athletes rep, forfeit all your IFBB ties and go full steam with the PDI?

Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: Chick on October 10, 2006, 10:07:32 PM
WHAT? That was silly Bob. Finish the carbs. You're starting to get silly.

So, what you're saying is: If Wayne made you an offer to help him promote the PDI for a minimum of $250K a year (for 3 years), you would officially resign as the IFBB athletes rep, forfeit all your IFBB ties and go full steam with the PDI?



No, what I'm saying is that if Wayne called me tomorrow...offered me $250K/ year, etc...as your outlining..

I would respectfully decline, without question or hesitation.
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on October 10, 2006, 10:10:04 PM
No, what I'm saying is that if Wayne called me tomorrow...offered me $250K/ year, etc...as your outlining..

I would respectfully decline, without question or hesitation.

Your current supplement contracts would be included on this aggreement Bob...Just to make believe....Don't say it is a cut in pay cause it isn't...How much is the IFBB paying you to be a pole-receiver anyway????
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: Chick on October 10, 2006, 10:15:05 PM
Your current supplement contracts would be included on this aggreement Bob...Just to make believe....Don't say it is a cut in pay cause it isn't...How much is the IFBB paying you to be a pole-receiver anyway????

Ever consider shortening your name to JAGGOFF?? Seems to suit you better...
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: DragonsBreath on October 10, 2006, 10:16:12 PM
Why? you would turn down $250K a year? Just to promote another organization?

I find that hard to believe Bob. You say you make more than that. Which I highly doubt. Maybe you were being sarcastic, but you know you don't.

$250K a year is a around $20-21G's a month. You and I both know you would promote the shit outta the PDI for that kind of money. Hell, even if it failed, you'd still get your $250K no matter what.

I don't understand how you can say that you wouldn't.

Is it Wayne or is it something else?
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on October 10, 2006, 10:18:43 PM
Ever consider shortening your name to JAGGOFF?? Seems to suit you better...

Why would I consider that BoB???? Did I hit nerve to where you have to take shots at me???? Just curious with your childish advances....BoB, you always tell so much about yourself in what you say...Keep it up sport you will soon be a senior citizen in your "old" age....You joke among men that you are....LoL....
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: Chick on October 10, 2006, 10:19:10 PM
250K would be a nice chunk of change...with no guarantee it would last more than a year.

I'll take the money I'm making, which will last much longer...
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: Chick on October 10, 2006, 10:21:28 PM
Why would I consider that BoB???? Did I hit nerve to where you have to take shots at me???? Just curious with your childish advances....BoB, you always tell so much about yourself in what you say...Keep it up sport you will soon be a senior citizen in your "old" age....You joke among men that you are....LoL....

You can't possibly hit any nerve..you're an anonymous fool on the internet, nothing more.





Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on October 10, 2006, 10:23:24 PM
250K would be a nice chunk of change...with no guarantee it would last more than a year.

I'll take the money I'm making, which will last much longer...

The money your making???? Righhhtttt......I know you are making the green, but Bob, how long do you think it will last with political views that only help yourself and an every decreasing physique....Old-man, wait for the next generation that might feed into the pro you never were propaganda.....LoL.....
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: AVBG on October 10, 2006, 10:26:08 PM
The money your making???? Righhhtttt......I know you are making the green, but Bob, how long do you think it will last with political views that only help yourself and an every decreasing physique....Old-man, wait for the next generation that might feed into the pro you never were propaganda.....LoL.....

Dude, WTF are you going on about? You're making no sense  :-\
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on October 10, 2006, 10:26:45 PM
You can't possibly hit any nerve..you're an anonymous fool on the internet, nothing more.







Well, Bob....Answer me this....Why do you respond to my posts as if they "mean nothing to you"...????....You are a joke and I have the right to have an opinion about your convictions just as you have every right to have an opinion about my posts....Its a shame my posts get more to you than your own convictions...You joke you....LoL.....
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: DragonsBreath on October 10, 2006, 10:28:17 PM
250K would be a nice chunk of change...with no guarantee it would last more than a year.

I'll take the money I'm making, which will last much longer...

NO WAY I believe that Bob. No way!

A 3 year deal, worth $250K a year (no matter what) and you can keep everything you got now, except the IFBB rep spot, and you say you would "respectfully decline"?

Yeah RIGHT!

That would be an extra 3/4 of a mil in your pocket guaranteed just to promote the PDI for 3 years.

Bob, you know you'd be sippin' on Gin & Juice all the way to the bank.
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: DragonsBreath on October 10, 2006, 10:29:41 PM
You can't possibly hit any nerve..you're an anonymous fool on the internet, nothing more.



LMAO!
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: Chick on October 10, 2006, 10:38:48 PM
NO WAY I believe that Bob. No way!

A 3 year deal, worth $250K a year (no matter what) and you can keep everything you got now, except the IFBB rep spot, and you say you would "respectfully decline"?

Yeah RIGHT!

That would be an extra 3/4 of a mil in your pocket guaranteed just to promote the PDI for 3 years.

Bob, you know you'd be sippin' on Gin & Juice all the way to the bank.

Bro...you're not considering all the factors.

It's got nothing to do with the "Athletes Rep" position (a non-paying job at that).

The IFBB represents more than just contest winnings to me (which make up very little). My contract with BB.com, Weider/AMI, Egg whites Int., and various other endorsements, appearances, and opportunities have all been a direct result of my being an IFBB pro.

The PDI can't even guarantee they'll be around in 6 months, let alone offer anything of significance (money/ contracts/ exposure, etc). I realize you're speaking in hypothetical circumstances...but the point remains the same.

It's the same principle that led to many more pro's NOT joining the WBF...than did. And the WBF had GUARANTEED CONTRACTS..! As Troy said on the radio, he wants to compete against the best, and the best is in the IFBB.

Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: DragonsBreath on October 10, 2006, 10:50:28 PM
Yeah, I can kinda see your point. But money (guaranteed at that) talks loud.

But you can't compare the PDI with the WBF. I retract that statement simply because after seeing the "props" on stage at the NOC, that was a disgrace. But it's still is bodybuilding. The WBF was a poor attempt to make bbing mainstream.

But you promoting the PDI could and would open up just as many doors for you as the IFBB did. Hell, what if Egg Whites Int. sponsors a PDI event? Are you in or out?

The PDI has to start off somewhere.

*Wayne may make you a "Godfather" offer.....an offer you can't refuse.

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Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: Bigger Business on October 11, 2006, 12:20:23 AM
The last 3 pages of this thread suck
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: 240 is Back on October 11, 2006, 01:04:21 AM
It's got nothing to do with the "Athletes Rep" position (a non-paying job at that).

The IFBB represents more than just contest winnings to me (which make up very little). My contract with ... Weider/AMI

I think the fact that you are a Weider/AMI employee, is what many resent about the job you do as atheltes' rep.  Seriously, you have two bosses, who happen to be adversaries.  And since only one of them gives you a paycheck, at the end of the day, you're going to keep them happy.
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: adipo8 on October 11, 2006, 03:53:10 AM

IMO he did beat those guys.  he got overlooked on the hype those other names usually bring.  if branch didnt score 2nd at the arnold, no way he places as he did.    gunter, keeps riding his gnc win over ronnie for gift placings and   dennis....well ok, i agree, dennis beat him. 

How many gifts did Troy get in his career. He just did not capitalize on them- it is too late now
When freeman beat him at the Arnold it was the end
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: G o a t b o y on October 17, 2006, 05:40:43 PM
Bro...you're not considering all the factors.

How many 40-somethings do you know who use the term "bro"?

And people wonder why bodybuilders are thought of as stupid!  ::)


Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: bigkid on October 17, 2006, 06:21:47 PM
alves is gonna need a nickname soon.
  How bout Troy "Flex" Alves.
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: AVBG on October 17, 2006, 06:22:53 PM
  How bout Troy "Flex" Alves.

What about Troy "Chick" Alves?
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: Chick on October 17, 2006, 06:29:35 PM
I think the fact that you are a Weider/AMI employee, is what many resent about the job you do as atheltes' rep.  Seriously, you have two bosses, who happen to be adversaries.  And since only one of them gives you a paycheck, at the end of the day, you're going to keep them happy.

Who is "many"? "Many" people here on getbig? Who are my two bosses adversaries of?

Amazing you can form an opinion on matters of which you know far less than you think you do....
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: thisiskeith12 on October 17, 2006, 06:32:00 PM
How many 40-somethings do you know who use the term "bro"?

And people wonder why bodybuilders are thought of as stupid!  ::)




That was weak.
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: DEFCON on October 17, 2006, 06:50:11 PM
After hearing the replay of Troy Alves making statements like "I beat Branch, Dennis & Gunter" and "Lee Priest Should be Suspended", what is one word you'd use to describe the guy?
calfless
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: G o a t b o y on October 17, 2006, 07:02:06 PM
That was weak.

It was also accurate.


You can remove your lips from Bob's knob anytime now.
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on October 18, 2006, 12:27:55 AM
Symmetrical bodybuilder.
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: 240 is Back on October 18, 2006, 12:42:01 AM
Who is "many"? "Many" people here on getbig? Who are my two bosses adversaries of?

Amazing you can form an opinion on matters of which you know far less than you think you do....

I think the fact that you are a Weider/AMI employee, is what many resent about the job you do as atheltes' rep.  Seriously, you have two bosses, who happen to be adversaries.  And since only one of them gives you a paycheck, at the end of the day, you're going to keep them happy.

Employees and Mgmt are adversarial by definition.  Employees would like to be earning what the mgmt is earning, or more, as they do the hard work.  Mgmt would like to be paying guys minimum wage, as they run the system and employees are plugged in.  Call me cynical, but in general, employees always want to earn more, and Mgmt would always like to pay less.  Can we agree on that much?

Now... BBing is just like that. 

Employees = Bodybuilders.  They would surely like to be earning more money than they currently do.  Therefore, a person who represents them - and their goals - would like them to be earning more money.  And you do that.

IFBB/AMI = Mgmt.  They would like to be paying guys the minimum they have to, and they would like to keep most, if not all, profits made.  This is normal and there is nothing wrong with it. 

Since you work for teh athletes as their representative, you wear a hat that says "I will fight for more money for these guys".  But since you ALSO work for Weider/AMI, making you their subordinate employee, you have to do what they say.  And, since bosses will give their underlings tasks which help them achieve their goals (one of which is earn more money), you are inevitably going to have to choose a side.

It's like this in every field.  Name one other example of a guy who is employees rep, who also gets an independent check from the bosses that the other guys don't get.  I mean, you KNOW you can't play too rough with manion, or you'll lose your check.

Not ragging on you, but your response sounded condescending "Amazing you can form an opinion on matters of which you know far less than you think you do....". 


You asked, "Who are my two bosses adversaries of?"
They both have the same goal - get the biggest share possible of that money pie sitting on the table. Therefore by definition they are adversaries of each other- they are competing for a finite number of dollars.

It's just like one guy playing for the Bears and working as an asst. coach for the Lions.  When they play, there is only one "W" up there to grab.  Will the guy put his resources into helping the Bears win? Or will he "do his best" but at the same time ensure the Lions end up just one point ahead at the end? ;)   See what I'm saying?
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: MikeThaMachine on October 18, 2006, 02:27:31 AM
  How bout Troy "Flex" Alves.

Sounds great, I mean it's like anyone can have "flex" for a nickname these days.
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: adipo8 on October 18, 2006, 05:21:00 AM
Sounds great, I mean it's like anyone can have "flex" for a nickname these days.

Well Ken Wheeler does not need it anymore - he is a big business man now - hahahaha
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: djohnsen on October 19, 2006, 05:38:37 AM
I think the fact that you are a Weider/AMI employee, is what many resent about the job you do as atheltes' rep.  Seriously, you have two bosses, who happen to be adversaries.  And since only one of them gives you a paycheck, at the end of the day, you're going to keep them happy.

Employees and Mgmt are adversarial by definition.  Employees would like to be earning what the mgmt is earning, or more, as they do the hard work.  Mgmt would like to be paying guys minimum wage, as they run the system and employees are plugged in.  Call me cynical, but in general, employees always want to earn more, and Mgmt would always like to pay less.  Can we agree on that much?

Now... BBing is just like that. 

Employees = Bodybuilders.  They would surely like to be earning more money than they currently do.  Therefore, a person who represents them - and their goals - would like them to be earning more money.  And you do that.

IFBB/AMI = Mgmt.  They would like to be paying guys the minimum they have to, and they would like to keep most, if not all, profits made.  This is normal and there is nothing wrong with it. 

Since you work for teh athletes as their representative, you wear a hat that says "I will fight for more money for these guys".  But since you ALSO work for Weider/AMI, making you their subordinate employee, you have to do what they say.  And, since bosses will give their underlings tasks which help them achieve their goals (one of which is earn more money), you are inevitably going to have to choose a side.

It's like this in every field.  Name one other example of a guy who is employees rep, who also gets an independent check from the bosses that the other guys don't get.  I mean, you KNOW you can't play too rough with manion, or you'll lose your check.

Not ragging on you, but your response sounded condescending "Amazing you can form an opinion on matters of which you know far less than you think you do....". 


You asked, "Who are my two bosses adversaries of?"
They both have the same goal - get the biggest share possible of that money pie sitting on the table. Therefore by definition they are adversaries of each other- they are competing for a finite number of dollars.

It's just like one guy playing for the Bears and working as an asst. coach for the Lions.  When they play, there is only one "W" up there to grab.  Will the guy put his resources into helping the Bears win? Or will he "do his best" but at the same time ensure the Lions end up just one point ahead at the end? ;)   See what I'm saying?

Good post, 240.

Of course you have a point here - this being a problem for his job as a rep?
I'm not sure, that depends on "the suits" and how the manage their power.
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: DK II on October 19, 2006, 05:45:43 AM
Well Ken Wheeler does not need it anymore - he is a big business man now - hahahaha

Ken who???

man, just call him Flex. But wait, wasn't there another on? Luke 'Flex' Wood? 'The True Flex'? 'Flexxx'?

'240 or flex'? shit, i'm getting it all mixed up.

Flex Cutler? awww, i give up.

Bob Flexerillo?

Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: MikeThaMachine on October 19, 2006, 05:55:27 AM
Ken who???

man, just call him Flex. But wait, wasn't there another on? Luke 'Flex' Wood? 'The True Flex'? 'Flexxx'?

'240 or flex'? shit, i'm getting it all mixed up.

Flex Cutler? awww, i give up.

Bob Flexerillo?



I like Mike "Flex" Machine 8), seriously though I don't >:(
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: buffbodz on October 19, 2006, 07:00:11 AM
Highly intelligent Portuguese bodybuilder.
Title: Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
Post by: buffbodz on October 19, 2006, 07:07:25 AM
If IF'S and BUT'S were candy and nuts...we'd all have a Merry Fuckin Christmas. ;D

Chick's a King of the Hill fan.