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Title: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: DragonsBreath on October 10, 2006, 08:57:21 PM
Some dudes actually think they can put on some size doing push-ups.

I do them, but don't rely on them for size.
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: Marty Champions on October 10, 2006, 09:06:10 PM
pushups are great for size, cappilary density, muscle density, a way to increase stored energy. you muscles are pure energy, pushups exert alot of energy
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: Special Ed on October 10, 2006, 09:44:46 PM
Pushups are a great way to build up your bench press. Do 2-3 sets of 50 reps every night before you sleep. It won't be enough to make you sore, but will increase your bench by 20-30 lbs within a month. Try it.

Special "Worthless Tips" Ed
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: DragonsBreath on October 10, 2006, 09:59:20 PM
Hershel Walker said that he only did push-ups his entire career. And he had some size on him.
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: siouxcountry on October 10, 2006, 10:04:21 PM
If a beginner can only do 3 correct push ups and three months down the road can do 30, he obviously gained some size.
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: shiftedShapes on October 10, 2006, 10:05:21 PM
yes push ups are great if you don't cheat and keep your damn legs off the ground.  It's called a planche push-up. 
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: DragonsBreath on October 10, 2006, 10:07:11 PM
If a beginner can only do 3 correct push ups and three months down the road can do 30, he obviously gained some size.

Don't confuse SIZE with STRENGTH.
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: onlyme on October 10, 2006, 10:13:51 PM
In high school I did so many push-ups.  I could do 110 without stopping at all.  My baseball coach was an ex-marine and he had big muscles expecially way back then.  He really got me into pushups.  And yes they can puton size and defitiely increase strength.
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: headhuntersix on October 10, 2006, 10:16:18 PM
I can't believe we're talking about this again.....If this were true then eveybody in the US Army would walk around with huge dense muscular chests.  I know plenty of 130lbs guys who can knock out 100-120 PU with perfect form in 2 minutes.. None of these guys can bench more the 150 lbs with horrible form. I think u can do diamonds..u can use them to burn out..u can use them to warm up..but for size..no way.
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: headhuntersix on October 10, 2006, 10:17:58 PM
In high school I did so many push-ups.  I could do 110 without stopping at all.  My baseball coach was an ex-marine and he had big muscles expecially way back then.  He really got me into pushups.  And yes they can puton size and defitiely increase strength.

He was a Marine so i imagine that he got that way from pullups..which is a much better exercise. I'm in the Army..we do these damm things every day...they do very little for size..my opinion of course.
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: DragonsBreath on October 10, 2006, 10:20:05 PM
I can't believe we're talking about this again.....If this were true then eveybody in the US Army would walk around with huge dense muscular chests.  I know plenty of 130lbs guys who can knock out 100-120 PU with perfect form in 2 minutes.. None of these guys can bench more the 150 lbs with horrible form. I think u can do diamonds..u can use them to burn out..u can use them to warm up..but for size..no way.

That's what I say. I've seen dudes bust out 100 clean push-ups and can't bench shit to save their lives.

No size. Strength...? yeah. Size? No
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: TheEgoCrusher on October 10, 2006, 10:23:12 PM
Hershel Walker said that he only did push-ups his entire career. And he had some size on him.

Herschel Walker also claimed he only ate one meal a day....  ::)
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: headhuntersix on October 10, 2006, 10:31:08 PM
That's what I say. I've seen dudes bust out 100 clean push-ups and can't bench shit to save their lives.

No size. Strength...? yeah. Size? No

The first line describing the exercise in our manual mentions that its a test of muscular endurance. DW loves these things..more power to him but not for guys who want that monster chest.
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: onlyme on October 11, 2006, 12:06:59 AM
He was a Marine so i imagine that he got that way from pullups..which is a much better exercise. I'm in the Army..we do these damm things every day...they do very little for size..my opinion of course.

Yes he did pullups and dips.  He was very strong.  Not a tall guy.  He was japanese.  But he had great arms and chest.  Built really good.  He was one of my first inspirations and also the one who got me into weightlifting.  He was our varsity baseball coach too and I made it on varsity my freshman year but he told me I needed to get some size. I weighed 130.  My sophmore year I weighed 175 and graduated at 210. 
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: rocket on October 11, 2006, 12:10:22 AM
Don't confuse SIZE with STRENGTH.

I know what you're saying is atypical of how we'd all respond but what he is saying is true.  There is no doubt that a newbie would be larger after having an increase like that.
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: americanbulldog on October 11, 2006, 12:22:23 AM
The first line describing the exercise in our manual mentions that its a test of muscular endurance. DW loves these things..more power to him but not for guys who want that monster chest.

Fantastic for combat athletes.  If you destabilize the base by using bosu, swiss, or medicine balls, it makes it that much more effective. 
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: the shadow on October 11, 2006, 12:23:12 AM
come on people push-ups are the best known workout there.it gives your body an incredible pump..it might not give you the shape of a bodybuilder put still pump up your whole body..it works the chest,triceps,back and shoulders..push ups are for real men..a guy who does a alot of push ups can easily beat a guy who benches 300lbs or so...push improves strength,size and endurance..i do 15 sets of push ups once a week..this is the real shit..
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: siouxcountry on October 11, 2006, 12:35:24 AM
Yeah everyone knows guys 130 pounds who can do a 100 push ups. These guys are usually solid muscle, if not for the bodyweight exercises they'd be even smaller. Bodyweight exercises do add muscle, as it is a form of resistance training.
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: pumpster on October 11, 2006, 03:34:01 AM
They will give you a very athletic look combined with a certain degree of size. To gain more size, increase the reps then eventually add resistance just as you would with chins or dips.

Anyone claiming they won't help with size hasn't done enough reps or increased resistance.
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: backday on October 11, 2006, 04:00:11 AM
He he they are very good for a good pump before you show your pecs, but for an experienced athlete ,you have to to put on more resistance, like having your girlfriend jumping on your back ;D
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: Bluto on October 11, 2006, 04:04:29 AM
let us all stop doing benches, dips etc and just do push ups for that big size
yeah

great thread
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: jumpstart on October 11, 2006, 05:18:24 AM
I should start doing push-ups. Thanks for the tip!
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: sinbad on October 11, 2006, 07:25:08 AM
Just yesterday my work out partner was talking about a friend of his who had push up bars that give you a greater range of motion when doing push ups and how great they are, I had 315 on the bar at the time, and I started giving him shit about how push up were for girls, and that you got to push weight to get cock diesel. I was just messin with him.. but you know really push ups are for people who don't work out ;D
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: Marty Champions on October 11, 2006, 07:26:09 AM
I can't believe we're talking about this again.....If this were true then eveybody in the US Army would walk around with huge dense muscular chests.  I know plenty of 130lbs guys who can knock out 100-120 PU with perfect form in 2 minutes.. None of these guys can bench more the 150 lbs with horrible form. I think u can do diamonds..u can use them to burn out..u can use them to warm up..but for size..no way.

id like to see 200 plus pounders knock out 100+
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: Tokyo Joe on October 11, 2006, 08:04:32 AM
Push ups are for people with kids who can't get to the gym

If you've got a gym membership, why would you bother..
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: the shadow on October 11, 2006, 08:09:22 AM
id like to see 200 plus pounders knock out 100+
yeah i would like to see that too..hahah these dickheads say that 130lbs guys could do 100...hell in college there are a alot of skinny dudes and they can't even do 10 push ups..like i said...............
PUSH UPS ARE FOR REAL GUYS...
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: MikeThaMachine on October 11, 2006, 08:15:50 AM
In high school I did so many push-ups.  I could do 110 without stopping at all.  My baseball coach was an ex-marine and he had big muscles expecially way back then.  He really got me into pushups.  And yes they can puton size and defitiely increase strength.

When I was in juvenile bootcamp the camp commander was an ex-marine (27years) and retired a Seargent Major, he was a beast and every year set crazy fitness goals for his birthday. One year he did 1000 pushups in a single workout for a goal. He was probably the most overall fit guy I have ever met and he was in his late 50's and over 200lbs solid.
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: theonlyone on October 11, 2006, 08:45:12 AM
There are lots of guys over 200 who can do 100 + push ups
The the the the the
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: texasRUSH on October 11, 2006, 09:02:08 AM
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id like to see 200 plus pounders knock out 100+


did 125 none stop to get my name badge back after leaving it on the engine at the fire dept. the other day...raised a few eyebrows on that one...100 is easy..everything after that starts to become a little more difficult!  ;D we do countless bodyweight exercises both in and out of gear at the FD!   Has done wonders for our overall staff health and abilitiy!

I almost had to do it twice...125 one day and another 125 another day for my smartass comment of "125? that's it?"  I had to do them infront of my chief, capt., and all the lieutenants....

pushups are awesome anyway you look at them! and your body will adjust to them VERY fast!   you can change hand position, foot positions, change elevations by putting your feet on top of different things like chairs or stools, use medicine balls, etc.!

you might surprise yourself with what a pushup can do for ya!  ;)
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: shiftedShapes on October 11, 2006, 09:18:42 AM

did 125 none stop to get my name badge back after leaving it on the engine at the fire dept. the other day...raised a few eyebrows on that one...100 is easy..everything after that starts to become a little more difficult!  ;D we do countless bodyweight exercises both in and out of gear at the FD!   Has done wonders for our overall staff health and abilitiy!

I almost had to do it twice...125 one day and another 125 another day for my smartass comment of "125? that's it?"  I had to do them infront of my chief, capt., and all the lieutenants....

pushups are awesome anyway you look at them! and your body will adjust to them VERY fast!   you can change hand position, foot positions, change elevations by putting your feet on top of different things like chairs or stools, use medicine balls, etc.!

you might surprise yourself with what a pushup can do for ya!  ;)

yeah maybe you should stop being such a pussy and try them with your legs in the air.
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: KTMckay on October 11, 2006, 09:28:41 AM
on my last chest set I like to do as many regular pushups  as i can without stopping then i drop to "girl style" pushups and go to failure. I think pushups can help you get bigger. when your muscles adapt to doing 101 after being 99 wouldnt thhey be at least a little bigger when you make 101? they must gain something when you can rep more.... 
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on October 11, 2006, 09:51:49 AM
That's what I say. I've seen dudes bust out 100 clean push-ups and can't bench shit to save their lives.

No size. Strength...? yeah. Size? No

Thats the difference between functional and non-funtional strength!
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: texasRUSH on October 11, 2006, 09:52:27 AM
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yeah maybe you should stop being such a pussy and try them with your legs in the air.

lol look we're talking push ups..not unimaginable feats of strength like those 225lb bnp's of the great alexx's
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on October 11, 2006, 09:58:51 AM
yes push ups are great if you don't cheat and keep your damn legs off the ground.  It's called a planche push-up. 

Try them also on a stability ball and see how far you get, very difficult movement. Also I'll have my athletes do explosive pushups, I'll set up reebock step (or similar) on each side of them, they start with their hands at a close grip and then explode to a wide grip at the top of the steps, then explode back down!
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: carvedoutofwood on October 11, 2006, 10:07:01 AM
world record for push ups= 10507... yes, non stop... theres a great story about the gymnest who held the record b4 the current japanese kid
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: texasRUSH on October 11, 2006, 10:13:05 AM
say WHAT?!  :o
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: knny187 on October 11, 2006, 10:34:07 AM
When I was in the Corps, I had a SSgt we all thought was a bodybuilder because he had a huge chest, shoulders, & decent arms.  His Lower body wasn't as near developed.  We asked him all the time on how much he lifted & what his routine was....& he would swear that other than push-ups, pull-ups & dips, he rarely touched the weights.

One day we saw him in the gym, & asked me to spot him doing 225 which he barely got 4 unassisted reps & I assisted him for an additional two.  After the set, he smiled, kind of chuckled at himself & said "I told you guys I don't hardly lift weights".  That was his heavy set.  He then unloaded the bar & went upstairs to do some cardio.

Personally myself...I found it extremely easy to put alot of size with push-ups.  At that time, I did alot of push-ups every day to the point my chest grew out of proportion to everything else. 

Then again...I see tons of guys do reps after reps of push ups, & never build a chest at all.  People like myself, I can do push-ups & totally fatigue my chest muscles.   Where as when I perform a bench press, my shoulders & arms fatigue first before my chest no matter the angle I use, the grip, or elbow placement.

Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: MAXX on October 11, 2006, 10:38:25 AM
do them sometimes as a last exercise on chest workouts to "kill" the chest as Jay Cutler would express it.
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: jmt1 on October 11, 2006, 10:58:58 AM
pushups are great for size, cappilary density, muscle density

muscle density???lol....are u serious man.

you will not make any gains in muscle doing push ups.

i dont care if its 50 push ups or 250...it makes no difference...you can condition the muscles to do the extra push up but it has no impact on the size of the muscle.

weight training, progressive overload, 6-8 reps, heavy basic movements, training to failure....thats how to train for size.
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: texasRUSH on October 11, 2006, 11:00:42 AM
hey dont' hate! it's in the "arnold dictionary" !!!  :-X who are you to question the gospel!  >:( ;D
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: knny187 on October 11, 2006, 11:03:37 AM
muscle density???lol....are u serious man.

you will not make any gains in muscle doing push ups.



I've seen that theory proved wrong
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: swilkins1984 on October 11, 2006, 11:13:55 AM
I've strapped an old backpack really close to my back with a 45lb plate inside and did push ups.  Really helps with bench press sticking points.
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: onlyme on October 11, 2006, 11:17:23 AM
Thats the difference between functional and non-funtional strength!

Exactly.  I would put money on any gymnast outdoing a muscled guy from the gym in pushups for reps.
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: mesmorph78 on October 11, 2006, 03:38:28 PM
started with pushups
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: Bluto on October 11, 2006, 03:41:31 PM
knny was in the corps?!
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: pumpster on October 11, 2006, 05:38:29 PM
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you will not make any gains in muscle doing push ups.

i dont care if its 50 push ups or 250...it makes no difference...you can condition the muscles to do the extra push up but it has no impact on the size of the muscle.
The funniest thing is that plenty of knuckleheads think that weighted chins or dips are fantastic, yet it doesn't occur to them that the same types of benefits happen with pushups using extra resistance...DUH!

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muscle density???lol....are u serious man.
Completely wrong. Calisthenics in general-pushups, chins, dips without weights will more than anything create  density and an athletic, hard, natural look. Add resistance to any of those exercises will increase the size potential. The guy who could only do 225 lb. bench after all the pushups would quickly get stronger once he got used to doing it.
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: jem123 on October 11, 2006, 06:00:41 PM
While push ups are a good exercise you will be limited to the amount of actual size you can put on with them. The key to building muscle is progressive resistance. Push ups do not provide enough progressive resistance for long term muscle gains.
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: pumpster on October 11, 2006, 06:10:50 PM
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The key to building muscle is progressive resistance. Push ups do not provide enough progressive resistance for long term muscle gains.
Once again, pushups are no different from chins or dips-add weight and you'll get size. Without the added weight you get a more athletic, dense look than weights will provide.
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: jem123 on October 11, 2006, 08:10:02 PM
Once again, pushups are no different from chins or dips-add weight and you'll get size. Without the added weight you get a more athletic, dense look than weights will provide.

You will get a more athletic, dense look than weights will provide?

What do you mean by dense? Are you saying that push ups will make your muscles more dense than lifting. I hope not because you would be completley wrong.

While i understand the merits of doing push ups to suggest they are superior to lifting weights is absolute nonesense. 

They will not give you a more athletic or dense look to your muscles than lifting. period.
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: HowieW on October 11, 2006, 08:12:31 PM
Some dudes actually think they can put on some size doing push-ups.

I do them, but don't rely on them for size.

They only make you BIG in one bodypart and then only when you are doing them on top of that special lady....or in the case of adonis....behind that speical fella.
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: swilkins1984 on October 11, 2006, 08:36:08 PM
Good for exhausting the pecs after a good chest workout or pre-exhaustion before the bench presses so your arms don't give out before the pics get fully worked.
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: Croatch on October 12, 2006, 12:51:13 AM
The secret is to "clap" at the top of the push up.  Make sure to clap hard and do these in the middle of the gym, so people actually have to walk around you.  These work wonders and the women love it. ;)
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: Bear on October 12, 2006, 03:11:45 AM
I can't believe we're talking about this again.....If this were true then eveybody in the US Army would walk around with huge dense muscular chests.  I know plenty of 130lbs guys who can knock out 100-120 PU with perfect form in 2 minutes.. None of these guys can bench more the 150 lbs with horrible form. I think u can do diamonds..u can use them to burn out..u can use them to warm up..but for size..no way.

Well I have a relatively genetically gifted friend who put on a good 15 pounds from pushups, just doing them every night he got obviously a bigger chest but also abdominal development from the static stability element of the exercise and a fair amount of shoulder and arm size from the compound stimulation. Didn't work so well for me cos I'm a fat ass endo-morph and he's a lucky meso-mofo. Anyway they can work wonders for normal natural folk under 220
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: kyomu on October 12, 2006, 04:25:36 AM
Since i saw too many strange thing in my life.
I tell you guys one.(Maybe Ofend Sarcasm again..)

Rickson Gracie(Well he is too famous) gains his muscle until 200lbs with ONLY PUSH UP.
As some guys know, he is a strong believer of the mental power because of his Yoga experience.

According to him, he used to do push up with IMAGING A LOT OF WEIGHT ON HIS BACK!
He says that if your imagination is strong enough,anything will be coverted into material.

Just incredible.
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: headhuntersix on October 12, 2006, 04:27:16 AM
id like to see 200 plus pounders knock out 100+

I'm 220 how many do u want me to do....I usually do 80 perfect in a minute 30....perfect according to Army standard anyway. No head bobs and fully locked at the top.....I've been doing em for years.  U do ur 5 min thing..I guess i could do 100 or so in about 2:15.
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: headhuntersix on October 12, 2006, 04:36:30 AM
I respect Rush and Pumpster on their training advice but some of u guys are crazy. Now if ur talking adding a ball..elevating..wearing equipment etc..then yeah I can see how they help. I make my guys do them wearing our vests. But as far as just the plain old shoulder width push up...good warm up..some strength..good burn....not the same as what we all do at the gym. U can tell guys who don't lift but work push ups..the chest development (if lean) looks a certain way. Same with pull ups. 3 pages this time not bad.... :P
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: gtbro1 on October 12, 2006, 04:46:52 AM
He he they are very good for a good pump before you show your pecs, but for an experienced athlete ,you have to to put on more resistance, like having your girlfriend humping you from the back ;D

   U.K GOLD knows all about this.
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: davie on October 12, 2006, 05:46:04 AM
I used to do alot of pushups wen i started working out (16), would do sets of 30 normal hand placement, 30 wide 30 close. I found it probs built my tris and gave me 1st signs of pecs, but im not sure how much i got from them really or what i would get from them now.

we'v always done them at rugby for punishments or wen we do circuits in pre-season. We do as many as we can in a minute, im not sure if my numbers are any good but i did 60 in a minute (thats probs bad but thats wat i can do).

Routine i follow at mo has me doing either power pushups (clapping/added resistence) or dips. So iv always done weighted dips.

davie
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: davie on October 12, 2006, 10:39:06 AM
Also for u press-up lovers, i knew a guy who was gonna try get into the army and knew he would b pushed hard at pushups/chins etc, but liked doing bodybuilding movements so altered his routine.

He did Cleans, shoulder press and T-bar rows on monday (rotated with deadlifts) 3 or 4 sets of each then he would do 4 sets pressups, weighted dips and weighted chins (weighted dips and chins with minimum of 10 reps).

Wednesday was legs (pretty normal leg routine) followed by 4 sets pressups, weighted dips and weighted chins (weighted dips and chins with minimum of 10 reps). Though sometimes he only did the leg on wednesday.

Friday was Db bench (mayb incline aswell), BB shrugs, about 4 sets of each. then 4 sets pressups, weighted dips and weighted chins (weighted dips and chins with minimum of 10 reps).

tusday thursday he did sum interval work. he grew well on this, sumhow. though i never really signed up for that sort of thing.

davie
Title: Re: Can push-ups make you big?
Post by: knny187 on October 12, 2006, 04:06:50 PM
knny was in the corps?!


Hard to believe?

 ;)