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Title: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: The Viking on October 12, 2006, 10:54:47 AM
I liked the hardcore body of Francois and think that he would be tough to beat for Cutler. Compare back and biceps!.
I know that Francois is out of the running, but still a great body (at the Arnold Classic won, by beating Flex Wheeler).
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: The Viking on October 12, 2006, 10:56:31 AM
Some more pictures!
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 12, 2006, 11:00:41 AM
Yes with all things being equal .
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: the shadow on October 12, 2006, 11:37:20 AM
I liked the hardcore body of Francois and think that he would be tough to beat for Cutler. Compare back and biceps!.
I know that Francois is out of the running, but still a great body (at the Arnold Classic won, by beating Flex Wheeler).
dude mike was the shit..just go and watch arnold classic 1997.he looked insane big..amazing
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: natural al on October 12, 2006, 11:42:32 AM
dude mike was the shit..just go and watch arnold classic 1997.he looked insane big..amazing

there was a shot of Mike doing leg presses back in 96 or so and I looked at it and looked at my legs and looked at it again and gave up training for about 6 months cause right then I realized I'd never, ever be a pro without doing "certain things" that I was not prepared to do...I was pretty niave at the time.
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: Fury on October 12, 2006, 11:49:14 AM
there was a shot of Mike doing leg presses back in 96 or so and I looked at it and looked at my legs and looked at it again and gave up training for about 6 months cause right then I realized I'd never, ever be a pro without doing "certain things" that I was not prepared to do...I was pretty niave at the time.

You still won't be a pro.
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: HUGEPECS on October 12, 2006, 12:18:21 PM
Oh, man. bodybuilding really miss Michael Francois. He was on his way to do some damage. I really think he could have win the Olympia. unfortunately, he had health problems
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: natural al on October 12, 2006, 12:27:13 PM
You still won't be a pro.

so, what are you saying?  I really don't feel like getting into a little bitch fest with you again but that one was really fucking lame.  You're a pro.....a pro-squad hack, I'll leave it at that.
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: Rampage on October 12, 2006, 03:14:59 PM
He reminds me a bit of chris masters when masters was still huge

I always thought chis cook had the potential to do some damage on the pro scene and to surpass cutler  on that stage one day when he stood next to him.Cook had excellent potential
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: Parker on October 12, 2006, 03:19:18 PM
Mike would have taken Cutler's lunch every single time...I think the dude looks better than Dorian did
there was a shot of Mike doing leg presses back in 96 or so and I looked at it and looked at my legs and l

I have that Flex Magazine, his legs were insane!!!

But I think that the 95 Arnold could have gone either way. Lee Haney said he thought Flex should have won it, he said "Mike was too blocky"

ND got any pics of the 95 Arnold?
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: 240 is Back on October 12, 2006, 03:20:13 PM
Francois with today's technology would be mr O, no doubt.
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: Victor VonDoom on October 12, 2006, 03:30:28 PM
Yes.  Doom approves.
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: sarcasm on October 12, 2006, 03:31:35 PM
Cutler is great but Mike Francois would have destroyed him.
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: Blockhead on October 12, 2006, 03:34:42 PM
Cutler is great but Mike Francois would have destroyed him.
I agree. No matter how "shredded" Jay gets he still looks smooth and soft. Imagine Jay with a nice degree of vascularity and hardness. That would be impressive.

 He's guest posing in Chicago in December. I'll get some pics.
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: Jr. Yates on October 12, 2006, 03:35:44 PM
always admired his biceps they had the freakiest split! almost, if not better than colemans.
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: natural al on October 12, 2006, 03:37:46 PM
Mike would have taken Cutler's lunch every single time...I think the dude looks better than Dorian did
I have that Flex Magazine, his legs were insane!!!

But I think that the 95 Arnold could have gone either way. Lee Haney said he thought Flex should have won it, he said "Mike was too blocky"

ND got any pics of the 95 Arnold?

man if you could scan that pic it would be great, his legs were insanely huge especially in those pics..
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: Parker on October 12, 2006, 03:40:35 PM
Mike would have wipe the floor with the majority todays pros, and if you want to talk about posterchild... The man was everything that the Weiders wanted, an articulate, humble, all-american. Hell, the man left the seminary, just to bodybuild!! 
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: KevinP85 on October 12, 2006, 05:02:36 PM
I remember Mike Francois back in 97, awesome guy to talk too. He stayed over in Dallas after a local show. I would say he was about the same height was Cutler, give or take an inch. Dude was massive. Way ahead of his time, one of the great mass monsters. Too bad his career was cut short.

The back, arms, calves :o

Does anyone have any recent pics of him? I know he promotes his show in Columbus, Ohio.
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: TheAnimal on October 12, 2006, 06:07:59 PM
Yes, I would say he would of beaten Cutler becuase when he flexes something actually happens and that he is a lot more impressive
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: HERACLES on October 12, 2006, 06:37:25 PM
lEGENDARY GENETICS...look at his back thickness.

I remember though going to the MRO when it was in New York..I think it was Ronnies first win, and Francois was there, I almost didnt recognize him, it was after he got sick, and lost all his weight/size... i was like wow...  :'(
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: swilkins1984 on October 12, 2006, 06:47:28 PM
I agree. No matter how "shredded" Jay gets he still looks smooth and soft. Imagine Jay with a nice degree of vascularity and hardness. That would be impressive.

 He's guest posing in Chicago in December. I'll get some pics.

Yeah I noticed that.  Jay gets in great condition but just doesn't have the veins popping out. Ronnie's veins are popping like crazy all through the offseason at 320lbs. Paul Dillet had some sick veins too. Mike Francois on his best day beat Flex so I am sure he would beat Jay.
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: Naked4Jesus on October 12, 2006, 06:50:25 PM
Michael Francios never got to realize his full potential and had a very short bodybuilding career.  Had he been in perfect health and competed during the same time as Jay he would have owned Jay vigorously. 

Hope this helps...  ;D

Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: AVBG on October 12, 2006, 06:51:35 PM
Michael Francios never got to realize his full potential and had a very short bodybuilding career.  Had he been in perfect health and competed during the same time as Jay he would have owned Jay vigorously. 

Hope this helps...  ;D



I agree.
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: knny187 on October 12, 2006, 06:57:03 PM
Mike was awesome at the Arnold...simply awesome.  His long torso was a little bit distracting though.
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: DVSGOD on October 12, 2006, 07:07:27 PM
Awsome back and was one of my faves at that time but what a stupid question  ::) who the fuk knows if he could beat Jay , they are never going to stand on the stage togeather to see.
There are guys with alot more potential and better genetics that wont be Mr O look at wheeler for one did he beat Dorian? NO !!!! Flex proberly had better potential but Dorian has better drive to succeed. It also comes back to how they turn up on the day , contest timing and putting in the hard work when it counts etc.

Dumb ass question this one.
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: MRMD2003 on October 12, 2006, 07:34:27 PM
mike had the better physique in their primes !!!!  better lines. more balance !!!
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: jesusbod on October 12, 2006, 08:29:31 PM
I liked the hardcore body of Francois and think that he would be tough to beat for Cutler. Compare back and biceps!.
I know that Francois is out of the running, but still a great body (at the Arnold Classic won, by beating Flex Wheeler).

Would KFC Beat Popeyes cooking fried chicken if the Colonel Sanders was still cooking it himself....

I wish these types of "woulda, coulda, shoulda" questions would go away... The points are irrelevant because everyone knows it's not possible for any of this to happen.
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: DVSGOD on October 12, 2006, 08:30:49 PM
Would KFC Beat Popeyes cooking fried chicken if the Colonel Sanders was still cooking it himself....

I wish these types of "woulda, coulda, shoulda" questions would go away... The points are irrelevant because everyone knows it's not possible for any of this to happen.
Right on bro  8)
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: Parker on October 13, 2006, 04:57:01 AM
Well, Jay got his pro card in 96, right? Mike was still competing, before he got sick, and he and Jay could have competed against one another. Jay would have been about 245-250, whereas Mike would have been about 250. 
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: nycbull on October 13, 2006, 06:29:14 AM
I agree. No matter how "shredded" Jay gets he still looks smooth and soft. Imagine Jay with a nice degree of vascularity and hardness. That would be impressive.

 He's guest posing in Chicago in December. I'll get some pics.

Jay is a young man and also lives a relatively healthy lifestyle and keeps his weight close to the same all year round. His skin is thick and tight which will show less veins. Some of these other bodybuilders have destroyed their skin with yo yo ing their weight, which stretch's it and also they do rec drugs.
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: the shadow on October 13, 2006, 07:47:29 AM
Mike would have taken Cutler's lunch every single time...I think the dude looks better than Dorian did
I have that Flex Magazine, his legs were insane!!!

But I think that the 95 Arnold could have gone either way. Lee Haney said he thought Flex should have won it, he said "Mike was too blocky"

ND got any pics of the 95 Arnold?
hey dude if you can scan that pic of mike francois...this guy was huge as hell and at the same time had awesome lines..i think he was at his biggest when he competed in the arnold 1997..he was like insane huge in that show.
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: Parker on October 13, 2006, 03:18:50 PM
hey dude if you can scan that pic of mike francois...this guy was huge as hell and at the same time had awesome lines..i think he was at his biggest when he competed in the arnold 1997..he was like insane huge in that show.

I'm looking for it..for the past two days!!!
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: The_Crusher on October 13, 2006, 06:22:41 PM
I have a pic back in 96 he signed this for me.....check it out.  ;D

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL83/535329/13193958/195568536.jpg (http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL83/535329/13193958/195568536.jpg)


Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: njflex on October 13, 2006, 07:28:38 PM
His leg's were sick ,muscle hung off joint's esp around knee area,thick and his muscle was dense and he looked every ounce he weighed.
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: the shadow on October 14, 2006, 01:13:12 AM
I have a pic back in 96 he signed this for me.....check it out.  ;D

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL83/535329/13193958/195568536.jpg (http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL83/535329/13193958/195568536.jpg)



holy shit... :o :o :o
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: nicorulez on October 14, 2006, 04:27:30 AM
Jay is a young man and also lives a relatively healthy lifestyle and keeps his weight close to the same all year round. His skin is thick and tight which will show less veins. Some of these other bodybuilders have destroyed their skin with yo yo ing their weight, which stretch's it and also they do rec drugs.

You are a complete dumbass.  Your posts reek of delusion.  A young man who lives a healthy lifestyle.  New flash idiot, professional bodybuilding is about as healthy as being a professional "pie eating contest" contestant.  The amount of gear, GH, insulin and metamphetamines (not to mention diuretics) that any top pro bodybuilder uses to get into contest shape is nothing less than astounding.  I have a friend who got 2nd place at a state show.  He only uses gear (roids).  He is awesome but 5 foot 8 inches and 210 ripped.  If he used GH and insulin and whatever other concoction todays pros are using he would be sick.  Mike Francois, although he used an insane amount of drugs also, did not retire because he used recreational drugs.  The man had Ulcerative Colitis and it almost killed him. At their primes, Francois would have eaten Cutler.  Francois was the one guy of the 90's who could have given Doz a run for the Olympia.  He was superior to Coleman until the latter part of the nineties.
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: mesmorph78 on October 14, 2006, 04:42:52 AM
yes... better genetics than culter.. one of my favourite bb's francios... could have been a mr o.. a real mr o mind u... ala coleman.. dorian...haney....
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: Mussolini on October 14, 2006, 05:06:52 AM
Yeah I noticed that.  Jay gets in great condition but just doesn't have the veins popping out. Ronnie's veins are popping like crazy all through the offseason at 320lbs. Paul Dillet had some sick veins too. Mike Francois on his best day beat Flex so I am sure he would beat Jay.

Since when are pro graded on vascularity? If they were Gaspari would have beaten Haney's record.
Title: Re: Would Michael Francois have beaten Cutler?
Post by: IceCold on October 15, 2006, 09:29:53 PM
hulkster,

another example of a great bber that doesnt have everything you think they should - shape, details, taper, etc. (basically everything that ronnie doesnt have).