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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Sami The Black-smith on October 13, 2006, 07:46:45 AM
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Wow, I thought Sami was Black, too.
So is that the MAIN REASON u didnt answer my Question that i sent u by PM>>???????
i really dont know which one it is: being black or an Arab making u NOT helping me!!!!
OK.... lets make it to public and see if there is a better expert than u will be willing to answer or help me..... ;)
i am flying to my show for 6hrs on the plane and i dont really have the key how to manage it with water intake and the other stuff to stay tight....as u know befor i travel to NY for the NOC i was looking so hard and ready i arrived and the whole day i was LOOKING GREAT but day by bay i started to fade! i thought if i come early 5-6 days befor the show is good, but it was wrong idea.... now i am planing to arrive the same day of the show at 7am and the show at 4pm.
# how to control the water during flying? shall i carb load during my flight?
# what do i have to eat the whole 10hrs befor the show when i arrive?!
# is there any thing i should do befor i travel? meals or supplements!
i know it sound stupid but as u know i didnt get use to travel Long distance for competing.... and i am always willing to learn and try things out so i know what works for me and what not.
++ i might looked sharper in the pre-judging but not like the show day.. but i wish i could keep the same size that when i arrived to NY.. i looked fuller and dryer....
plz guys NO ROOM for jokes, if u can help me plz do and if not, it will be great if u save ur jokes and fun for a another time in another Thread but not this time.. i am 10days away from my show and i have enough Sh++ to look after :-\
## here it is how i looked the day i arrived to NY......
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e143/musclemania2005/4-1.jpg)
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e143/musclemania2005/6-3.jpg)
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## and here how i looked in the Show day (after 4days of my arrival) just note that i am not that type who 3days loading... 1 day and half was my max loading coz i am afraid to lose it...
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e143/musclemania2005/sidechest-1.jpg)
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e143/musclemania2005/backstanding.jpg)
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e143/musclemania2005/untitled4.jpg)
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(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e143/musclemania2005/untitled-1.jpg)
you can send me the notes or advice to my E.mail or by PM...
Thanx to all of u members and Moderators..... ;)
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To answer your question, YES ...you are black....
Is that what you were asking ?
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awesome physique Sami, you remind me of a thicker Dexter Jackson.
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To answer your question, YES ...you are black....
Is that what you were asking ?
No.. you smart A--, i am asking for the Advice IF u can read the title of my Thread..!!!
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one thing you might want to try Sami is getting to the city of the show a week early if you can afford it and then following your regular schedule that you follow at home, that should keep things as normal as possible for you.
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No.. you smart A--, i am asking for the Advice IF u can read the title of my Thread..!!!
I think Sami is under the impression that Tre doesn't like him anymore because he is not black.
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one thing you might want to try Sami is getting to the city of the show a week early if you can afford it and then following your regular schedule that you follow at home, that should keep things as normal as possible for you.
i did that Man for the NY show.. i came 6 days earlier but it didnt work!!!
Thanx any way....
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i did that Man for the NY show.. i came 6 days earlier but it didnt work!!!
Thanx any way....
so you're saying that the flight fucked you up that much? maybe the stress of all the travel is making you hold water.
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Sami I truly believe that despite the fact you didn't pull it together coming to NY early that its wrong to blame coming early. By coming early you give yourself the best chance of being ready. If you weren't ready and you were fading you got your timing wrong. Much easy to get it right when you're settled in.
You should speak to guys at the show, I mean thats basically where you'll get decent advice if people are willing to talk.
Failing that PM milos and see how far he will go to advise you.
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I don't think you're black though. ;D
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Sami i was just reading through the pre contest bible and it seems that most of the pros just stick to their normal schedule. A few mention that they might have a bit more water than usual due to the dehydrating effects of a flight, but other than that just clockwatch. But..... your the first ive ever seen arrive the day of !!! - Good luck!!!
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I have read that nearly all pros try to show up as early as possible as flying screws up the water retention (Don Youngblood would actually drive to every event - even if it was across the country). By flying in so close to the show time you risk the travel stress, not being able to carb up when you should, and in the worst possible scenario - missing the event due to a canceled/changed flight.
I won't pretend to know the fine details of the final two days prep. But there are enough experts here that should be able to give you some good advice. Even PM another Pro who is on here - get advice from a few if possible. That may give you a few options to try out.
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sami i would much rather arrive days earlier than having to deal with the stress of flying the day of the show.
but it sounds like your plans are already set for your flight.
i assume you are not using any strong diueretics so you should cut your water about 10-12 hours before prejudging....so i would stop drinking somewhere around 4-6 that morning...so that would be about an hour before you land...it would normaly be best to increase your water intake while flying but it is so close to the show you need to limit your water while you are on the flight...i would drink about 8 ounces of water about 20 minutes after each of your carb meals...you will have to be carbing up on the plane to stay full....and since you are only carbing for 24-36 hours you need to take in some fast acting carbs...so if you plan to start your carb up on friday morning, by the time you get on the plane you will have already had atleast 12 hours to begin carbing up...while you are on the plane i would be taking in a little bit of carbs every hour of the flight....its hard to make any specific recomendations without knowing what you have done in the past as far as your carb up goes...i helped a friend last year who did the usa and had to fly to vegas from the east coast while he was carbing....what he did was eat a small baked potato and a tablespoon or 2 of grape preserves every hour of the flight...it worked well for him....but i would definetly make sure you have your carbs with you on the plane and keep eating.
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The dehydrating effects of the plane is due in part to the extemely low humidity on the plane. Unless you live in a tropical climate, your body won't even notice the change.
Stressing about the flight will hold much more water than the actual flight.
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I think Sami is under the impression that Tre doesn't like him anymore because he is not black.
Nothing new there. Tre is an obvious racist in my opinion.
Tre has on several occasions made racist remarks regarding Arabs.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=88540.msg1268709#msg1268709
BTW Sami, look for advices from guys with a good track record, such as Disgusted, Milos, Shawn, DJ or CT (Thibedaux).
It's difficult to estimate the advices coming from the peanut gallery, so stick with known sources IMO.
YIP
Zack
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THANKS GUYS for all the Supports................ .......... i really started to have an idea But the more info i get the easy it will be................
regards :-*
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My advice is this.
You get what you pay for.
Hire a guy like Milos for your next show and I am sure you will be near the top.
Good Luck.
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Sami,
Lemme get this straight. You're a Pro Bodybuilder and you're asking a bunch of pencil-neck geeks and fat bastards for contest prep conditioning tips???
What's next??
Lee Priest asking us when he should upshift in his next Drag race?
Donald Trump asking the homeless to help him identify real estate investment opportunities?
Markus Ruhl asking True Adonis how to add more muscle to his frame?
Donald Trump asking Flex Wheeler to help him identify real estate investment opportunities? (Oops, covered that)
OJ Simpson asking Craig Titus how to get away with murder?
I could go on, but I digress....
Special "Jocular" Ed
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Sami,
Lemme get this straight. You're a Pro Bodybuilder and you're asking a bunch of pencil-neck geeks and fat bastards for contest prep conditioning tips???
What's next??
Lee Priest asking us when he should upshift in his next Drag race?
Donald Trump asking the homeless to help him identify real estate investment opportunities?
Markus Ruhl asking True Adonis how to add more muscle to his frame?
Donald Trump asking Flex Wheeler to help him identify real estate investment opportunities? (Oops, covered that)
OJ Simpson asking Craig Titus how to get away with murder?
I could go on, but I digress....
Special "Jocular" Ed
that was funny
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So is that the MAIN REASON u didnt answer my Question that i sent u by PM>>???????
i really dont know which one it is: being black or an Arab making u NOT helping me!!!!
OK.... lets make it to public and see if there is a better expert than u will be willing to answer or help me..... ;)
Now that's not fair, Sami. When I replied to you, I said that I thought you looked fantastic in your previous show, but more importantly, that - because you are a pro - I was not qualified to give you advice on final preparations for a show.
It wasn't that I did not wish to help you and it certainly wasn't because you're 'Black or Arab'...it's that I don't have the subject matter expertise necessary to be able to give you sound advice.
Thankfully, you're still in the right place - GetBig is full of people with a lot more knowledge than me on this subject who will gladly share their information with you.
That said, I wish you continued success in your bodybuilding career and hope this little misunderstanding is soon forgotten.
-Tre'
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Nothing new there. Tre is an obvious racist in my opinion.
Tre has on several occasions made racist remarks regarding Arabs.
Nice try, but not applicable here.
My telling Sami that I couldn't answer his question had nothing to do with race or ethnicity - it had to do with the fact that I'm not qualified to give the answers he was seeking in regards to show prep. I told him that there were much better people to speak with on this subject.
Not that it matters, but at the time, I thought he was Black anyway, so whether I'm racist (against non-Blacks) or not would not have factored into the decision to suggest that he get the required info from more knowledgeable sources. I did the responsible thing and FWIW, would've given the same response to anyone who asked.
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Nice try, but not applicable here.
My telling Sami that I couldn't answer his question had nothing to do with race or ethnicity - it had to do with the fact that I'm not qualified to give the answers he was seeking in regards to show prep. I told him that there were much better people to speak with on this subject.
Not that it matters, but at the time, I thought he was Black anyway, so whether I'm racist (against non-Blacks) or not would not have factored into the decision to suggest that he get the required info from more knowledgeable sources. I did the responsible thing and FWIW, would've given the same response to anyone who asked.
Cool.
I never claimed you to be racist towards "non-Blacks".
I called you on your racist remarks towards Arabs.
Don't include other ethnicities into that.
YIP
Zack
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Tre, lets be honest. You didn't give him advise cause he's not a smoking chick with a nice booty (like in your ativar) :D
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My advice is this.
You get what you pay for.
Hire a guy like Milos for your next show and I am sure you will be near the top.
Good Luck.
whose working under milos now...meaning who's with him for the last few weeks leading up to the contest. I know luke wood, and im guessing dennis james. i know mustafa in the past. not a diss, since milos knows his stuff, but im just trying to get an idea where his guys are placing.
also, disgusted knows his stuff, ask him via pm.
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Any paid advice is better then none.
I am pretty sure Dennis James is with Milos.
But Disgusted is very good.
I nevery thought Shari would place in the top 5 in any show.
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TRE: Sorry for the Misunderstanding....its my bad....and its all good with me after ur post....
### Really THANX guys for every single word that been given to me.....
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Didn't the guy that goes by "Team The Game" come on here one time and out Sami? Said something about how Sami just completely turned on him...kind of did what Mustafa did to Milos?
I remember something about Sami not being someone that you want to trust...and now he's here asking our advice- why not still go with "Team The Game" when he got you as far as he did? ??? ??? ??? ::) ::) ::)
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Didn't the guy that goes by "Team The Game" come on here one time and out Sami? Said something about how Sami just completely turned on him...kind of did what Mustafa did to Milos?
I remember something about Sami not being someone that you want to trust...and now he's here asking our advice- why not still go with "Team The Game" when he got you as far as he did? ??? ??? ??? ::) ::) ::)
From what i have seen of Sami he is a very very nice guy and seems to care allot. He has been nothing but great on this board so whatever else happens it probably was justified. The thing I do find funny is that not one person who posts on this board looks better than Sami and he is asking for advice.
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From what i have seen of Sami he is a very very nice guy and seems to care allot. He has been nothing but great on this board so whatever else happens it probably was justified. The thing I do find funny is that not one person who posts on this board looks better than Sami and he is asking for advice.
agreed, Sami looks incredible.
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Whats the deal with Sami?.... when is the competition, i havent even heard about it.
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Wonder if he got the advice he needed as well.
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Didn't the guy that goes by "Team The Game" come on here one time and out Sami? Said something about how Sami just completely turned on him...kind of did what Mustafa did to Milos?
I remember something about Sami not being someone that you want to trust...and now he's here asking our advice- why not still go with "Team The Game" when he got you as far as he did? ??? ??? ??? ::) ::) ::)
thanks for being NICE....well let me clear it for u and to any one have doubt on what u said in ur Post:
# i WAS working with ALIAMINI who has the name of TEAM THE GAME... the guy was helpful and nice to me.....we had mistunderstanding, and nicely i asked him i want to work ALONE and deal with my self.. DOSE that make me a bad guy?! DO i have to stick my self with any Nutristionist that i deal with ALL my life?! and the time i move to better one i should be the BAD guy?? i will be a bad guy if there is any payments and i didnt pay OR after working with him and get the best results i go around and say he is Crap or Bad Nutritionist...BUT non of that happened....yes we had a clash but still i say good things about the time we worked togather......
# Posting in this Forum asking for advice from EXPERTS coz i know that there is the best members in here with great information about this sport, and they r willing to help when u ask... so i did that, and no matter shape or size or condition i will reach still i will be a Student ready to learn and try.....
# when i was with ALIAMINI, the time i post some thing EVERY one Smoking me up!! can u tell me WHY>?? but after being just me and show up my self i got RESPECT from every one as long i respect my self..............
# So far i got PM from famous Nutritionist Expert and we r going to work togather after British NOC...
see, thats why i POSTED my thread, if u check all the posts in this thread, u will see every one willing to help ONLY u...!!!! if u can help thats will be great and if u got BIG info and u want to get paid for it still good with me... But if u r here just to spoil it up ITS not the right day or time COZ really i need the help and thanx GOD in this Forum i am really protected :-*
THANK YOU ALL for being there for me, to me its not a shame to ask for a help or info, its a shame and selly if u ACT like u know some, in fact you Aint nothing but a barking dog :-X
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hey Sami i know this is a little off topic but what does your leg workout look like?
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thanks for being NICE....well let me clear it for u and to any one have doubt on what u said in ur Post:
# i WAS working with ALIAMINI who has the name of TEAM THE GAME... the guy was helpful and nice to me.....we had mistunderstanding, and nicely i asked him i want to work ALONE and deal with my self.. DOSE that make me a bad guy?! DO i have to stick my self with any Nutristionist that i deal with ALL my life?! and the time i move to better one i should be the BAD guy?? i will be a bad guy if there is any payments and i didnt pay OR after working with him and get the best results i go around and say he is Crap or Bad Nutritionist...BUT non of that happened....yes we had a clash but still i say good things about the time we worked togather......
I asked a question, the post Aliamini had here was pretty incriminating towards you. I posed a question, so if anyone else remembered it too, apparently nobody does, or I dreamed it up.
Also, if you were to have the said incriminating post be true, then you hook up with somebody else and scam them....that person that would have been scammed may have wanted a warning. But that is a moot point now, since nobody remembers the post, posted a link, or you have cleared it up with any other people involved.
# Posting in this Forum asking for advice from EXPERTS coz i know that there is the best members in here with great information about this sport, and they r willing to help when u ask... so i did that, and no matter shape or size or condition i will reach still i will be a Student ready to learn and try.....
# when i was with ALIAMINI, the time i post some thing EVERY one Smoking me up!! can u tell me WHY>?? but after being just me and show up my self i got RESPECT from every one as long i respect my self..............
Not sure if this is directed towards me or not. Smoking you up? I'm assuming you are referring to be "flamed?!?!" In which, I haven't ever posted towards you prior to the post you quoted of mine, in your post.
# So far i got PM from famous Nutritionist Expert and we r going to work togather after British NOC...
see, thats why i POSTED my thread, if u check all the posts in this thread, u will see every one willing to help ONLY u...!!!! if u can help thats will be great and if u got BIG info and u want to get paid for it still good with me... But if u r here just to spoil it up ITS not the right day or time COZ really i need the help and thanx GOD in this Forum i am really protected :-*
THANK YOU ALL for being there for me, to me its not a shame to ask for a help or info, its a shame and selly if u ACT like u know some, in fact you Aint nothing but a barking dog :-X
Don't go and get your panties in a bunch, I just posed a question. Keith (onlyme) came on and cleared it up. End of story. Good luck in your endeavors, and hope you find a better partner for your nutrition side on this board ( :D ).....
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hey Sami i know this is a little off topic but what does your leg workout look like?
whats up Sarcasm,,,,,,
my leg work out is simple and i dont do it always the same:
leg ext, leg press, squat or hack, launges, one leg ext. / some times i do hams with quads and some times another day: lying leg curl, stiff dead lifts, standing one leg curl.....
you got some thing for me ;D
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SAMI,
There is only one guy here you need. His screen name is Disgusted. He turned around King kamali and got him in top form for the Monstreal show. He's the guy to talk to.
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SAMI,
There is only one guy here you need. His screen name is Disgusted. He turned around King kamali and got him in top form for the Monstreal show. He's the guy to talk to.
Thanks for the help Bro...
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Sami,
My name is Luke (my getBig screen-name is "The Luke"), I'm a moderator on the GetBig Natural board.
I'm not sure if you want my advice... as a lifetime natural I'm a little out of the loop regarding steroids and cutting drugs, however I have prepped a lot of naturals for competition and it just so happens I know EXACTLY why you are holding water after long-haul flights.
The reason why flying causes water retention is due to a couple of factors.
The lack of humidity is NOT one of these factors.
The water retention effect is due to:
-prolonged exposure to lowered air pressure
-mild oxygen deprivation
*Lowered air pressure:
Air travel is expensive, maintaining atmospheric pressure within the cabin is expensive as it requires continuous pumping of air into the aircraft. To cut costs airlines allow the pressure within the cabin to drop to tolerable levels thereby reducing the pressure differential they must maintain.
This is why your ears pop on an aeroplane. If the cabin remained fully pressurised you wouldn't get a pressure differential inside your ears (alleviated by yawning, which opens the eustachian tubes in the back of the throat). It's also why blood flows to your genitals more readily; the pressure drop during a flight gives men erections and makes women horny... most of the reason why people attempt to have sex in a toilet too small to shit in... and part of the reason why air-hostesses are easy.
There's nothing you can do about this effect, although it usually disipates within a few hours.
*Oxygen deprivation:
This is the main culprit... and it's something few people undestand about air-travel, partly because the airlines don't advertise it.
When air-travel became commonplace in the early sixties airlines noticed that a lot of the passengers were running around the aisles as giddy as horny teenagers and the nervous flyers were simply hysterical. The giddyness was due to the pressure drop... associated blood redistribution, horniness and light-headedness (coupled with the thrill of being in an airplane). The hystericals?.... Well, some people just don't like flying.
The airlines started offering alcoholic drinks in-flight... they ended up with giddy and hysterical drunks.
The answer?
Drop the oxygen level... from 21% (the normal level on Earth) to a more sedate 15-17%.
Result: lethargic, sleepy passengers (even the hysterical ones)... and alert horny hostesses (who acclimatise to the reduced oxygen level after just a few weeks).
How does this relate to bodybuilding?
Well, altitude sickness is characterised by chronic edema (water retention), whether it expresses itself via fluid build-up in the lungs... or more dangerously.... inside the head.
Like all reactions within the human body, there is no on/off switch... it's more a matter of degrees. Extra-muscular and intermuscular water retention after a long haul airplane flight is just that... a "slight" touch of altitude sickness.
The longer the flight, the more severe the effect as plane cabins also have high CO2 levels (stuffiness). The carbon dioxide adheres to the haemoglobin more readily than oxygen and is mildly toxic... the side effect of this toxicity is water retention.
However there are a few things you can try:
-Get a note from your doctor explaining that you need to use oxygen during the flight. Use the mask on the plane... an Arab (or anyone else for that matter) carrying a gas tank onto a plane might upset a few passengers... especially if it's a flight into the US from the Middle East. Oxygen during the flight will stop the edema in it's tracks.
-Spend six weeks living 10,000 feet (3,000 m) above sea level immediately before the contest. This will help somewhat... but won't completely stop the water retention. Although it will greatly help.
-Use chromium picolinate (200 mcg of active chromium per day) for a week before (and during) carbing up... that might offset the flight induced edema. DO NOT USE CHROMIUM WITH EXOGENOUS INSULIN!
-Get your doctor to prescribe a red-blood-cell/haemoglobin increasing drug (something along the lines of EPO). Word of warning though... these drugs are lethally dangerous if used without competent medical supervision.
-Sleep in a hypobaric chamber for a few weeks prior to the competition. (that's HYPObaric not HYPERbaric)
All of the above may well alleviate the problem, although the cheapest and easiest way to do it is arrive at least a month prior to the competition (six weeks is better)... or more reasonably, stop using any and all steroids two weeks before the show (that also works).
Hope this helps.
The Luke
PS-I've heard a vitamin B12 injection prior to the flight can help... but can't confirm this.
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As someone who travels to compete a fair amount I have a very simple solution..... get there prior.
Planning to arrive the day of a show is never good. Forget all the water retention issues...how about flights being later or cancelled.
I generally arrive at my destination with a few days to spare.
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Arriving the day of the show is just stupid...And i'm not saying you are doing this Sami however if you don't come in great shape to the show, do everyone a favor and don't blame the flight...That would seem too obvious and would make some people believe that you knew you weren't going to be in shape so you did this on purpose......
You however don't seem like the kind of guy that uses excuses so forget about what i just wrote.. ;D
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Arriving the day of the show is just stupid...And i'm not saying you are doing this Sami however if you don't come in great shape to the show, do everyone a favor and don't blame the flight...That would seem too obvious and would make some people believe that you knew you weren't going to be in shape so you did this on purpose......
You however don't seem like the kind of guy that uses excuses so forget about what i just wrote.. ;D
first of all thank Wombat,,,,, and as i said no matter how good i will look still i will be a student willing to learn and try.....
my flight was on the same day of the show where i will arrive 10hrs befor the show...... NOW after i got the informations and the advice, i changed the Whole booking to 2 days befor the show....
i might be a stupid if just do what was in my mind to come the day of the show, but i am here sharing it with u guys to help me... and thanks God.. as i said IN THIS FORUM i am WELL PROTECTED ;D so
really thank you all... thank you (CQ + The Luke + YoungBlood + sarcasm + onlyme, and the rest )
Wombat: i am not that type of guys who dont come 100% and i always try to find Excuses!! befor NY NOC i got flu and never said any thing about it till after the show!! and i was looking ok in the show... if i really want the MAJOR excuse ( here is one, we r in the HOLY month as Muslims) and we fast for the whole month from 4.30 am till 5.15pm!!! then break the fast!! CAN u tell me how some one can manage the meals+supplements+ Cardio+workouts?? and i have been fasting for about 21days :o ( guess what? i will come better that NY shape) ;D as i said i am not looking for Excuses buddy....
befor joining the PDI i promised Mr. DeMilia that i will take part in this show and always i will be at my best, and i am willing to honor my words.. this time i will come in bigger size+shape+lines+roundness and New Posing routine that will make the crowd go nuts ;)
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in NOCs shows at least you know what is the standards and what the judges is looking for, No Politics No friends... just follow the rules and it doesn't matter how BIG or SMALL you are if u collect the full 20% in each round, u gonna win the title and the cash, if u miss one round ur results can come upside down.... ;D
look for me this time and u will see how i will fight for the top 3 condition....
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Sami you look sick there brother, good luck with the future.
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Sami you look sick there brother, good luck with the future.
SICK...!!! dose that mean in the GOOD way or the sick sick way ??? ??? ;D ;D :D :D
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SICK...!!! dose that mean in the GOOD way or the sick sick way ??? ??? ;D ;D :D :D
haha, sick meaning you look VERY GOOD. :) 8)
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haha, sick meaning you look VERY GOOD. :) 8)
Sorry bro my bad... as u know my english is not my first language plus i dont know the slang or the code are been used in here ;) SO i guess i am VERY SICK ;D
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So how is the Black Smithing going?
I need some Horse shoes, can you make one bigger than the other cause Peter (my horse)has one leg shorter than the others.
ta ta
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The Luke has given great advice, beat me to posting most of it.
Long flights tend to see a lot of blood pooling in certain bodyparts while hardly reaching full circulation in others. This is why it is important to stretch your legs and walk around every so often, as being in contest mode is already enough strain on the body, you could risk thrombosis as well by remaining seated for long periods.
I would suggest increasing water intake, perhaps a mild potassium supplement. Arriving one day early and drawing the extra water out via diuretics before carbing up.
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how old are you sam?
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how old are you sam?
the passport age is 33.... the real age which is first time i say it on internet Boards is 29 and i said that in my recent MM interview in NY after the NOC....... i got that age in a funny story, in 1994 i won IFBB Mr. Asia for the 2nd time and still i can win 1995 but the federation changed my date of birth so i can move to Seniors and make bigger medals... so at that time i thought having older age will help me to get the legal driving age. so it wasnt a big deal and still.. so i did senior Asia 1996 got 3rd then 1997 2nd then 1998 got 1st ;D it was cool that year by year i was moving up.....
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Hey Sami! Good luck in your upcoming contests. I've had to travel many hours via flight for competitions. I always make sure that I arrive 3-4 days prior to competition. After 30 hrs of traveling (sometimes 12-13 hrs in the air at a time) one way, I am holding a ton of water. I try to drink 2-3 gal of water during the travel period. I always bring my food on the plane. I usually don't carb up till I get there and I try to bring what I need with me and not rely on what is in that particular country. Trying to get rid of the excess water is always fun. I try to do some light cardio and get a sweat going or early enough, i might use a sauna for a short period of time. Diuretics aren't really an option for me, so I don't have any experience with that. I just try to make sure I am in contest condition before I get on the plane. Glad to see you changed your flight plans because that is too risky. Especially if the airlines lose your luggage. (I always carry on my contest stuff. My luggage got "delayed" one time in the Czech Republic and I was freaked out! Good thing I arrived early enough to get it back in time.) Again, good luck!
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Is there a problem now at airports with bringing in extra fluids such as water? What's a BB to do now? Just avoid it completely as they fly, correct?
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Is there a problem now at airports with bringing in extra fluids such as water? What's a BB to do now? Just avoid it completely as they fly, correct?
I think I would try to make arrangements with the airline for extra water. If that's not possible, I would just make friends/bother the crap out of the flight attendants till they gave me 2-3 L of water.
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Hey Sami! Good luck in your upcoming contests. I've had to travel many hours via flight for competitions. I always make sure that I arrive 3-4 days prior to competition. After 30 hrs of traveling (sometimes 12-13 hrs in the air at a time) one way, I am holding a ton of water. I try to drink 2-3 gal of water during the travel period. I always bring my food on the plane. I usually don't carb up till I get there and I try to bring what I need with me and not rely on what is in that particular country. Trying to get rid of the excess water is always fun. I try to do some light cardio and get a sweat going or early enough, i might use a sauna for a short period of time. Diuretics aren't really an option for me, so I don't have any experience with that. I just try to make sure I am in contest condition before I get on the plane. Glad to see you changed your flight plans because that is too risky. Especially if the airlines lose your luggage. (I always carry on my contest stuff. My luggage got "delayed" one time in the Czech Republic and I was freaked out! Good thing I arrived early enough to get it back in time.) Again, good luck!
Thats what i wanted to hear Bro,,,,,,,,, THANKS alot for the Advice and sharing with me the Information it in lighted me on many things...
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Thats what i wanted to hear Bro,,,,,,,,, THANKS alot for the Advice and sharing with me the Information it in lighted me on many things...
hey sami, i think you really did the right thing in changing your flight to arrive earlier.
good luck
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So is that the MAIN REASON u didnt answer my Question that i sent u by PM>>???????
i really dont know which one it is: being black or an Arab making u NOT helping me!!!!
OK.... lets make it to public and see if there is a better expert than u will be willing to answer or help me..... ;)
i am flying to my show for 6hrs on the plane and i dont really have the key how to manage it with water intake and the other stuff to stay tight....as u know befor i travel to NY for the NOC i was looking so hard and ready i arrived and the whole day i was LOOKING GREAT but day by bay i started to fade! i thought if i come early 5-6 days befor the show is good, but it was wrong idea.... now i am planing to arrive the same day of the show at 7am and the show at 4pm.
# how to control the water during flying? shall i carb load during my flight?
# what do i have to eat the whole 10hrs befor the show when i arrive?!
# is there any thing i should do befor i travel? meals or supplements!
i know it sound stupid but as u know i didnt get use to travel Long distance for competing.... and i am always willing to learn and try things out so i know what works for me and what not.
++ i might looked sharper in the pre-judging but not like the show day.. but i wish i could keep the same size that when i arrived to NY.. i looked fuller and dryer....
plz guys NO ROOM for jokes, if u can help me plz do and if not, it will be great if u save ur jokes and fun for a another time in another Thread but not this time.. i am 10days away from my show and i have enough Sh++ to look after :-\
## here it is how i looked the day i arrived to NY......
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## and here how i looked in the Show day (after 4days of my arrival) just note that i am not that type who 3days loading... 1 day and half was my max loading coz i am afraid to lose it...
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you can send me the notes or advice to my E.mail or by PM...
Thanx to all of u members and Moderators..... ;)
Sami,
this is no easy task (to answer your question)...
Also - don't fly day before the show...Rather -go there early 2-3-4 days before...so you will not have to deal with water retention due to your flight...
One thing I can tell you IF you have long flight - try to walk around on the plane...You will certainly have less water retention if you do that...
Also - on the plane ride it is much safer NOT EATING or not eat too many carbs (or at all)..Protein is fine...
But - everything depends on your regular diet and stage that you are in...
You should TEST what you want to do at the contest WAY BEFORE...
Maybe 4 weeks out, 3 weeks out...2 weeks out...etc
Try to replicate everything that you plan to do last few days before the show IN ADVANCE and see how your body reacts 9with exception of flying just for the sake of doing exactly the same thing... ;D).
What I mean by that - if you are not doingcarb depletion/loading - than you cruise in with your regular diet...
If you chose to load and deplete - than you should certainly TEST your protocol...
Some like to LOAD in advance and than back off, some like to load few days before the show - going into the show...and some load just at the last minute (day before, night before or even morning of the show...)
It is too complicated to find you a best method without knowing all the variables (your training, cardio, diet, water intake, carbs, protein, fats....etc)
I will say that OFF COURSE - everyone can be ripped...
Just deplete into the show...(hundreds of people do that and usually they are very successful...of being ripped. But, many loose too much muscle, size and/or fullness and some just can't afford that...)
There are safe methods and risky ones...
Sometimes it is worth risking...and sometimes just doesn't make sense...
I am sure that now you know exactly what to do ;)...JUST DO IT!
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if you don't overeat and drink plenty 2 days is fine IMO... seen people suck in and look better with this timeframe just don't be too flat when you get on the plane... generally a few days later though you will look a lot worse
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milos, you are one bright guy.
however thanks to american false flag politics, if sami were to start walking around on a plane ride from US to heathrow, he'd be tackled and tazered in about two seconds.
sad but true. very cool of you to offer free advice tho milos!
shutup.. I'm reporting you to Ron.. Just when we're trying to cut racism, you make a comment like that..
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shutup.. I'm reporting you to Ron.. Just when we're trying to cut racism, you make a comment like that..
Getover yourself Ali >:(
Rob is not a racist
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Sami, you are a very brave guy.. I just remembered you are fasting, and you stepping on that stage while fasting is an accomplish on it's own.. What time zone are you going to use when you're on the plane?? The back at home timezone, or the England one??
Wow you're amazing..!!
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Getover yourself Ali >:(
Rob is not a racist
Rob can be a great guy, he probably is.. but as a Muslim, I cannot handle comments like that..
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Rob can be a great guy, he probably is.. but as a Muslim, I cannot handle comments like that..
The comment was made in jest for one, and if one looks at the true concept of his comment it was referring to the anti-Muslim sentiment, and ridiculing it. It was an anti-racism comment if you will. Rob is far from racist, and actually has very all encompassing world and racial viewpoints.
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Rob can be a great guy, he probably is.. but as a Muslim, I cannot handle comments like that..
Ali my friend, you are mistakingly taking Rob's comments out of context he said "thanks to american flag politics"... This is not his view on how Muslim's are to be treated. He is remaking on the sign of the times.
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MILOS : this is such an Honor to hear from the mind him self and YES sir NOW i know what i have to do.........THANK YOU VERY MUCH CHAMP.......and as i said befor that one of my wishes in bodybuilding is to train in ur GYM in CA ;)
jwb : thank you bro, i agree and as Milos said i will not Over doing it and i will limit my carb intake, walk around the plane from time to time, i will make sure to be in a Contest shape befor i leave my home.
ali23 : thanks Ali, Yeah FASTING is great thing but when u can eat what ever u want when its time to break the fast NOT to eat Steamed or Grilled :'( but ENSHALLA God will Reward me for that soon, its matter of 5days to get over every thing....
Bahrain and London is the same timing Zone just 2hrs London behind so its all good, but when i was in NY or LA it was about 8hrs and 13 hrs :o the time zone
thank you all for the help and support, i really dont know what i would do with out Guys :-*
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shutup.. I'm reporting you to Ron.. Just when we're trying to cut racism, you make a comment like that..
Are you kidding me? Are you freaking kidding me? I wish you were here so you could see how damn ajar my mouth is right now.
I get beat up on the General board for my assertion that elements of the US govt were complicit in 911. I assert that this anti-islamic fervor in the US is nothing but a tool of hatred used to justify war overseas. I argue every day that extremists exist in every culture, and judging the entire group by one comment is asinine. You either didn't read what I wrote, don't understand it, or you are dying to be offended.
Re-read my comment. It is very obviously a knock against our overly-aggressive, misplaced action. Instead of investigating NORAD for standing doen on 9/11, we're strip searching people for having 4 0z. of water. My own father - white guy that looks like Bruce willis - was actually searched and detained last night because he was flying with a good friend of his who owns a business but happens to be of middle eastern decent.
...and I'm more disgusted that some moderator was fucking blind enough to delete it. Ignorance, and a blind desire to be offended. Man up, do your research, and grow the hell up.
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MILOS : this is such an Honor to hear from the mind him self and YES sir NOW i know what i have to do.........THANK YOU VERY MUCH CHAMP.......and as i said befor that one of my wishes in bodybuilding is to train in ur GYM in CA ;)
jwb : thank you bro, i agree and as Milos said i will not Over doing it and i will limit my carb intake, walk around the plane from time to time, i will make sure to be in a Contest shape befor i leave my home.
ali23 : thanks Ali, Yeah FASTING is great thing but when u can eat what ever u want when its time to break the fast NOT to eat Steamed or Grilled :'( but ENSHALLA God will Reward me for that soon, its matter of 5days to get over every thing....
Bahrain and London is the same timing Zone just 2hrs London behind so its all good, but when i was in NY or LA it was about 8hrs and 13 hrs :o the time zone
thank you all for the help and support, i really dont know what i would do with out Guys :-*
Sami, I meant fasting for hours, and then having chicken and rice, or steak and potatoe, or eggs and oatmel lol.. Allah will reward you Sami!!
Enshalla, Enshalla!!
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Are you kidding me? Are you freaking kidding me? I wish you were here so you could see how damn ajar my mouth is right now.
I get beat up on the General board for my assertion that elements of the US govt were complicit in 911. I assert that this anti-islamic fervor in the US is nothing but a tool of hatred used to justify war overseas. I argue every day that extremists exist in every culture, and judging the entire group by one comment is asinine. You either didn't read what I wrote, don't understand it, or you are dying to be offended.
Re-read my comment. It is very obviously a knock against our overly-aggressive, misplaced action. Instead of investigating NORAD for standing doen on 9/11, we're strip searching people for having 4 0z. of water. My own father - white guy that looks like Bruce willis - was actually searched and detained last night because he was flying with a good friend of his who owns a business but happens to be of middle eastern decent.
...and I'm more disgusted that some moderator was fucking blind enough to delete it. Ignorance, and a blind desire to be offended. Man up, do your research, and grow the hell up.
Rob, it's just any comment referring us to terrorists just gets on my nerves.. Ever since September 11 my life has completely changed, and I get looked down upon and made fun of because I am Persian and Muslim.. It was just before the revolution when the Shah of Iran and Nixon were great friends, and the Shah and JFK, and his wife and Jackie O.. But then those dicks took over our country, and have ruined each of our lives and our reputations.. along with other Muslimes such as Osama and Sadaam.. Just to let you guys know, none of us Persians like this regime, our their extremists views.. all we want is our Shah back (his son) this regime gone, and we want to be great friends again with the great nation (the U.S).. 99 percent of us hate the regime btw..
I'm sorry Rob, for taking it out of context, and next time I'll read more carefully.. I'm just sick of seeing Muslim and Terrorist in the same sentence.. I hope you understand..
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Rob, it's just any comment referring us to terrorists just gets on my nerves.. Ever since September 11 my life has completely changed, and I get looked down upon and made fun of because I am Persian and Muslim.. It was just before the revolution when the Shah of Iran and Nixon were great friends, and the Shah and JFK, and his wife and Jackie O.. But then those dicks took over our country, and have ruined each of our lives and our reputations.. along with other Muslimes such as Osama and Sadaam.. Just to let you guys know, none of us Persians like this regime, our their extremists views.. all we want is our Shah back (his son) this regime gone, and we want to be great friends again with the great nation (the U.S).. 99 percent of us hate the regime btw..
I'm sorry Rob, for taking it out of context, and next time I'll read more carefully.. I'm just sick of seeing Muslim and Terrorist in the same sentence.. I hope you understand..
no prob man. I agree completely - it's the same kind of racism which was carefully cultivated to get an entire generation of Americans to hate all Germans & Japanese (40s), Koreans (50s), Vietnamese (60-70s) and now Muslims. Without that kind of hatred, the population will not support a war (and as we all know - wars are very good for the business of empirebuilding, the goal of what we do here in the US). Our people are conditioned to mistrust every muslim on every plane - when on 9/11, it was quite a team effort (Arabs in cockpit but white guys in ties keeping fighter pilots on the ground).
Just because 1% of a certain population does something, our media and leaders paint a broad stroke of the entire group, so our nationalistic drive kicks in, and we just wanna bomb the shit out of them. Osama, Al Q, and the Mujahadeen - they were created and funded by the US to keep the Russians from taking afghan/caspian basin - and useful today for justifying the wars our leaders want. The crazy bombers and nuts on the streets in the middle east have no idea how bad they're being pwned... US $ to Osama get him to rile them all up, they do some evil shit, we get to respond with a thousand times the force, and put in a base and an oil pipeline while we're there.
LOL... oh shit, this just became a General board rant, my bad! all is well tho!
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i wouldnt have thought a 6 hour plane trip was a long one?...long enough to mess with your balance...
i travel OS regularly and am always dehydrated and tired when arriving. keep up the water (although that means getting up to go to the toilet all the time) and walk around.
also work in some form of bodyclock adjustment. I have a feeling that that may be the biggest issue here.
you've got to transition the change in time zone, not sleep or stay awak through it all in one hit. You can't makeup sleep.
So best to be in advance of it, and have a strategy to make the transition as gradual as possible.
i try to adjust my local bodyclock by an hour or 2 a day for 3 days prior to leaving, then arrive and expect my clock to be about 3-6 hours off...that can be made up within 3 days a the same 1-2 hour/day strategy,
This works perfectly as 12 hours enables eitherway synchronisation of the world's timezones- it is the worst case scenario.
remember that 16 hours behind is actually 8 hours ahead but yesterday...so you design to adjust for the 8 hour bit and just forget a day.
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disco_stu : thanx bro, yeah 6hrs flight is not really long one but can do a damage some times and to me i have to be more careful when it comes to standing next to BIG names on the stage ( LEE PRIEST, RODNEY st. Could, Andreas Frey,Zoltan) these guys going to come 110% ready and its not that easy to keep up with them with any mistake, thats why i want to find the perfect way on keeping my shape,lines and size till the show.. So far i got the clear picture about every thing regarding how to deal with the water intake during flight,carb and the day of the arrival.......
i will arrive early morning 6.30am on 21st and my show on 22nd evening, which i have almost 2 days to adjest every thing...
FROM the bottom of my heart and i mean it THANK you all for posting all the help u can give and the great PRO ( LEE PRIEST ) who sent me PM giving me the tips and HIS OWN way on dealing with long and short flight, Carb loading, water intake...... thats such an honor to have from a person that i am coming to beat!!!!! see guys thats why i want to stick with PDI.. every one is helpful, nice, and treat u the way u r.....even in NY i got the best treatment from every one.. in the gym, street, shopping, back the stage, the crowd and PDI agents...to me so far the best place to be and hang around is NEW YORK the people down there are great and down to earth as long as u respect ur self ;D
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Seriously, to Rob's point, a big ass middle eastern dude, pacing the aisle of a plane looking all depleted and probably somewhat nervous, with shaved forearms might raise some suspicion. Why is that hard to understand or accept?.....If you're gonna get all pissed off, get pissed off at the regimes and terrorists that, through their actions, created this sort of scrutiny.....
I would just let the flight crew know that you are going to compete in a bodybuilding show and that you have to spend some time walking the asile during the flight.
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Seriously, to Rob's point, a big ass middle eastern dude, pacing the aisle of a plane looking all depleted and probably somewhat nervous, with shaved forearms might raise some suspicion. Why is that hard to understand or accept?.....If you're gonna get all pissed off, get pissed off at the regimes and terrorists that, through their actions, created this sort of scrutiny.....
I would just let the flight crew know that you are going to compete in a bodybuilding show and that you have to spend some time walking the asile during the flight.
my dad's persain, is big from working out, and is a commercial airline pilot...
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actually all sensitivities aside, the fact that a big dude who may appear intimidating to some, walking the aisles i reckon, is pretty funny.
you should give out some nasty stares too i reckon....just for laughs.
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YO Sami,
Just a couple of days left. Good luck with your show!
THEN, afterwards, Lee's buying dinner still, yes?? ??? ;D
Cheers!!
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YO Sami,
Just a couple of days left. Good luck with your show!
THEN, afterwards, Lee's buying dinner still, yes?? ??? ;D
Cheers!!
Hey whats up Boss ;D
thanx for wishing me a good luck i really need it..... Regarding LEE, So far he didnt say any thing about the FOOD even thu i asked him couple of times >:( but i guess he is so busy taking care of things like the Car racing+dieting+traveling+IFBB case + and family so i guess i shall wait till next year ;)
yeah i got only today and tomorrow then leaving to London.... every thing ok. i am 206pounds i got only littel water which is am keeping it for the flying and carb loading which gonna take care of it...i think i will be 208-210 after the loading and hit the stage