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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Mixed Martial Arts (MMA/UFC) => Topic started by: jmt1 on October 15, 2006, 08:37:33 PM
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clip of the fight...
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xi3tg_esxdfhruykkkkgytjvhgbb
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rich got owned to the max, his nose was like an inch off to the side at the end of it.
devastating knees, totally 1 sided
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what i couldnt believe is how pathetic rich looked in that clinch. its like he had no idea what to do and couldnt break it.
nice win by silva
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rich franklins head was not in the fight. he is going through some personal problems. he will be back and i truely believe he will get the belt back.
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I dont care if Rich's mom died. The reality of it is that he is a fighter he shouldve been prepared, he knew ghe had a fight and he got owned. in the worst way. It looked as if he has never trained against the clinch. When a fighter looses a fight there is always a exscuse. F*CK that what happened is that Rich fought a fighter that had some skill and he got his ass handed to him. Just imagine how bad rich wouldve gotten beat down had he not been in the clinch... Bottom line rich just isnt use to fightin people with that level of skill. Rich lays on people that he out weighs by 20 lbs at fight time and gnp them....
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to say that rich hasn't fought anybody with any skill is just stupid. the man has heart and is a great fighter. i wasn't really trying to make an excuse for him though. he knows he got beat but he's human, he had personal problems and his head wasn't in the fight. can he beat silva..yes i believe he can. will he.. who knows? i will say that i thought it was unfair of the ufc to put rich against someone like silva in his comeback from all the injuries he sustained against david L. (can't spell his last name). i also think the ufc takes advantage of him signing him to a long contract and paying him peanuts while they use him up flying him all over the country making appearances when he should have be training. sorry for the rant
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to say that rich hasn't fought anybody with any skill is just stupid. the man has heart and is a great fighter. i wasn't really trying to make an excuse for him though. he knows he got beat but he's human, he had personal problems and his head wasn't in the fight. can he beat silva..yes i believe he can. will he.. who knows? i will say that i thought it was unfair of the ufc to put rich against someone like silva in his comeback from all the injuries he sustained against david L. (can't spell his last name). i also think the ufc takes advantage of him signing him to a long contract and paying him peanuts while they use him up flying him all over the country making appearances when he should have be training. sorry for the rant
I will state again while Rich has had the belt he has fought no one near as skilled as silva. He has outweighed and out layed almost all of his opponents. Having heart is important as a fighter, but i question how skilled Rich is. Period. I might get ridiculed for that comment but i dont think that he is the best in his weight class. Do i think he can beat silva small chance... any fighter is beatable it just takes one shot. but can he beat silva on his best day VS. Silva's best day not a chance in hell. I honestly think that Dana thought that Rich would win Rich is Dana's pretty boy you think Dana is Gonna make a ton of money off silva like he did Rich HELL NO. so why would dana wanna lose one of his cash crops. And when your a champ flying around and making apparences.... so you cant make any exscuse for RICH he knew what he was getting into. BOTTOM LINE RICH GOT OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I will state again while Rich has had the belt he has fought no one near as skilled as silva. He has outweighed and out layed almost all of his opponents. Having heart is important as a fighter, but i question how skilled Rich is. Period. I might get ridiculed for that comment but i dont think that he is the best in his weight class. Do i think he can beat silva small chance... any fighter is beatable it just takes one shot. but can he beat silva on his best day VS. Silva's best day not a chance in hell. I honestly think that Dana thought that Rich would win Rich is Dana's pretty boy you think Dana is Gonna make a ton of money off silva like he did Rich HELL NO. so why would dana wanna lose one of his cash crops. And when your a champ flying around and making apparences.... so you cant make any exscuse for RICH he knew what he was getting into. BOTTOM LINE RICH GOT OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fuck, as much as I hate to say it, your right! I wanted Rich to win so bad but damn he got ass raped! I mean, he's my guy! We'll see what he's made of in the next 6 months! How someone rebounds is the ultimate test of skill and will! I'm just glad that isn't my nose!!!! ;D
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How someone rebounds is the ultimate test of skill and will! I'm just glad that isn't my nose!!!! ;D
Damn right. if Rich is what everyone thought he was and if he has the heart people think he does then it will show when he comes back.... And im with you i like my nose and Rich's looked jacked thats one of the worst i have ever seen...
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I don't understand how things went so wrong so fast for Rich. He looked like an amateur. Horrible.
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his nose is fine by the way. they did a great job on it..you can't even tell it was broke. he was at the gym yesterday training hard and heavy. he was doing deadlifts, powercleans and the reverse hyper extension machine. he looked strong.
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he needs to. damn he made silva look as strong as big country
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his nose is fine by the way. they did a great job on it..you can't even tell it was broke. he was at the gym yesterday training hard and heavy. he was doing deadlifts, powercleans and the reverse hyper extension machine. he looked strong.
I hope he trains how to get out of the clinch this time.... i like rich i just dont believe he looked like a champ when he was in the ring. he looked just as bad as some of the guys he coached/punked on tuf4
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I hope he trains how to get out of the clinch this time.... i like rich i just dont believe he looked like a champ when he was in the ring. he looked just as bad as some of the guys he coached/punked on tuf4
He needs to go back to the basics and start training his ass off again. Can he step up and meet the challenge is the question. If he gets his head into it, I think he could.
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I'm sure Rich will avoid the clinch at all costs in the rematch. I read in an interview that he can't spar again until mid December because of the surgery on his nose.
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yes thats true. i think its good hes back in the gym lifting though. i know mike will have him faster stronger and more explosive by the next fight.
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poor rich he didnt even seee it coming
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That just go's to show how lame the UFC is 1 move and he cant turn it around. so many ways out but he cant think of 1 lol can anyone say overrated????
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i bet you wouldn't go up and tell rich how overrated you think he is
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i bet you wouldn't go up and tell rich how overrated you think he is
Fuck did you really say that... But let me guess you would be the first in line to tell him how much of a nut hugger you are of his.... and all that shit... these men wether over-rated or not are trained fighters there 9-5 is the gym and training.. would anyone walk up to any profesional fighter and say they were over-rated and sucked... How about tyson he's overrated or so everyone says.. would you tell him that.. would you tell bruce lee he couldnt fight in his prime... what kind of moronic statement was that... i bet you wouldnt tell him that.. stfu
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P.S. if you told rich that he would probably laugh at you and drive away in his 100 dollar car with his bitch and laugh all the way to his comfortable house... so who cares bottom line franklin got owned looked like shit and didnt impress anyone on this board with the way he got owned... so yeah franklin looked way over-rated and personally looked like a rookie and i wouldn't want him holding my orginazations belt with the way he looked ...
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the thing about is guys talk crazy about bbers and fighters behind a keyboard knowing they wouldn't be that bold in person. its stupid to talk crazy like you are when you've never been where he has been. heck i bet you've never been in a mma fight in your life.
ps. franklin has a jeep and a hummer not a 100 dollar car
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I'm sure Rich will avoid the clinch at all costs in the rematch. I read in an interview that he can't spar again until mid December because of the surgery on his nose.
Rich better not stay at range with Anderson. Anderson is the better striker of the two. His best opportunity is to take it to the ground and GNP.
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the thing about is guys talk crazy about bbers and fighters behind a keyboard knowing they wouldn't be that bold in person. its stupid to talk crazy like you are when you've never been where he has been. heck i bet you've never been in a mma fight in your life.
ps. franklin has a jeep and a hummer not a 100 dollar car
Damn it i meant 100 thousand dollar.... Hey man i train and i have fought.... only twice but getting back into it...but i've been training since i was 13 with my father... And i agree with you on the shit talking part... but hey man people in general talk tough period... look at the assholes in traffic that act all hard flipping you off and acting tough... what do they do when you get out of your car at a red light they either drive off or roll up the windows and lock the doors. I've seen this to many times... So yeah man people in general think that there tough when they have no frickn idea. Hell dude ive said this before 80% of people have no frickin clue how to fight. but they sure think they do. when in fact they would be owned by my 115 lb. ex-girlfriend(granted her dad was a 7th dan and she was a black belt).....
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Damn it i meant 100 thousand dollar.... Hey man i train and i have fought.... only twice but getting back into it...but i've been training since i was 13 with my father... And i agree with you on the shit talking part... but hey man people in general talk tough period... look at the assholes in traffic that act all hard flipping you off and acting tough... what do they do when you get out of your car at a red light they either drive off or roll up the windows and lock the doors. I've seen this to many times... So yeah man people in general think that there tough when they have no frickn idea. Hell dude ive said this before 80% of people have no frickin clue how to fight. but they sure think they do. when in fact they would be owned by my 115 lb. ex-girlfriend(granted her dad was a 7th dan and she was a black belt).....
I got ezekiel choked by a 160 lb purple last night. Sparring full contact=humility.
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Whether I can kick Franklin's ass or not is irrelevant.
That doesn't change the fact that he's overrated and got beat by someone far more skilled.
Stop being such fan boys.
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props to rich and he will return
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i figure that rich will get a rematch in a few fights. my prediction is that he will come back faster and stronger and run through them and take his belt back. believe me rich will be improved
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Rich will not come back.
He will never be the champion again. He's an average fighter in the grand scheme of things.
He can't even throw a kick. I saw him performing a roundhouse with nothing behind it. You're supposed to turn your body into the kick. It's basic. I learned how to kick properly in karate class. You would think a champion would know this. lol. The only people I see that throw kicks right are Cro cop, Silva, Bas, GSP, and a select few others. His punching is sub-par too. Any boxer in his weight class would easily knock him out in a slugging match.
This marks a new era in the UFC, similar to the changes in MMA created by the Gracies(everyone understanding the importance of groundfighting). The likes of Rich Franklin will be relegated to the mid-bottom card.
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come on man..what are you talking about? he can't throw a kick.... give the man credit he is a former champion of the world. i have seen kick peoples heads off. as an amatuer he knocked a guy out and broke his jaw in 30secs. with a kick. you haven't seen all of rich's fights by watching the ufc. rich is a great fighter...one of the best.
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come on man..what are you talking about? he can't throw a kick.... give the man credit he is a former champion of the world. i have seen kick peoples heads off. as an amatuer he knocked a guy out and broke his jaw in 30secs. with a kick. you haven't seen all of rich's fights by watching the ufc. rich is a great fighter...one of the best.
Rich is a part of the new breed MMA fighters without any one strong base. He is a good wrestler, decent stand up, decent clinch game, and purple/brown jits game. He is a freak athlete with incredible physical attributes. He ran up against a world class striker with a great clinch game. Anyone who thinks Rich doesn't deserve to be where he is at is clueless. If he does fight Anderson again, he better work his Greco and he better call Mark Delgrati.
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come on man..what are you talking about? he can't throw a kick.... give the man credit he is a former champion of the world. i have seen kick peoples heads off. as an amatuer he knocked a guy out and broke his jaw in 30secs. with a kick. you haven't seen all of rich's fights by watching the ufc. rich is a great fighter...one of the best.
Perhaps.
I just saw one fight in the UFC featuring him throwing a couple kicks and it looked like a weak snap kick with absolutely no power. He was pretty exhausted though so that could be why. He's a great athlete, but not a great fighter imo. There are talented people coming in now.
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Those fighters on tough are absolutely horrible relatively speaking.
UFC has become saturated with amateurs. The really accomplished martial artist (like Bass Rutten) are virtually nonexistant in the UFC.
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i can see i am not going to change your mind. but when rich wins his next fight i will tell you i told you so.
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Rich will come back and win a couple of fights...maybe even get a rematch, but I dont think he will ever get his confidence back. The looks on his face when he took that beating says everything. I expect he will come back gun shy.
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i can see i am not going to change your mind. but when rich wins his next fight i will tell you i told you so.
Well no shit he's gonna win his next fight maybe next two do you think dana will throw rich to wolves... NO. he's gonna give him a soup can for his first fight to make Rich look a little better then what he did against silva.. So does that mean much no... do i think rich will fair pretty good for a while. Yes... Do i see him winning his belt back anytime soon..... Hell NO!!!!!!!! Hell will freeze over before that happens... Rich doesnt get his belt back anytime in 2007... and when that happens you can hear me tell you loud and clear I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!!!!!!
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you think dana takes care of rich..NO! if he did he wouldn't have put rich against anderson after he injuried himself so bad in his last fight. he had broke his hand and foot. he had to have pins put in his hand and he had to train around the injuries after his time off to heal. so in a sense he was thrown to the lion. not making excuses for him because he needs none. he is great fighter. end of story.
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Rich is a good fighter, but Silva is a great fighter. I don't see Rich ever gettin the belt back as long as Silva has it. I think Rich has to fight Swick next. I don't think Swick will beat him, but I bet this fight goes at least into the 3rd round.
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Rich is a good fighter, but Silva is a great fighter. I don't see Rich ever gettin the belt back as long as Silva has it.
At least someone else other then me see's the truth... Rich is a good fighter.... I didnt say great NOTICE THIS.... Rich will not get his belt back as long as Anderson has it....... Bottom line.. no if's and's or but's. Yeah it sucks but that is just the way the nose breaks....
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Rich is a good fighter, but Silva is a great fighter. I don't see Rich ever gettin the belt back as long as Silva has it. I think Rich has to fight Swick next. I don't think Swick will beat him, but I bet this fight goes at least into the 3rd round.
I could see Mike k.o'ing Rich in the first to be honest.
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i admit swick is becoming a very good fighter but i still don't think he is rich's caliber yet.