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1. Ronnie Coleman
2. Lee Haney
3. Dorian Yates
4. Kevin Levrone
5. Jay Cutler
6. Flex Wheeler
7. Shawn Ray
8. Rich Gaspari
9. Lee Labrada
10. Vince Taylor
11. Nasser El Sonbaty
12. Chris Cormier
13. Dexter Jackson
14. Gustavo Badell
15. Milos Sarcev
HM: Victor Martinez, Gunter Schirlekamp, Lee Priest, Dennis James...
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1. Ronnie Coleman
2. Lee Haney
3. Dorian Yates
4. Kevin Levrone
5. Jay Cutler
6. Flex Wheeler
7. Shawn Ray
8. Rich Gaspari
9. Lee Labrada
10. Vince Taylor
11. Nasser El Sonbaty
12. Chris Cormier
13. Dexter Jackson
14. Gustavo Badell
15. Milos Sarcev
HM: Victor Martinez, Gunter Schirlekamp,Dennis James...
I don't agree with the guys I highlighted. No offense to any of them but saying they were top 15 is a stretch. Milos was good cause he was so consistant but the only time he won a show was when he was using synthol. nothing personal but I just don't see him in the top 15. same with Gustavo, he's only been a top guy for 2-3 years now and his star is already falling. I'm not saying your wrong I just don't agree with some of them. I'd have to really sit down and think about this before I made a list. I removed Lee Preist from the bottom cause he might qualify, he's won shows and been very consistant.
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Im sorry but thats not even close, at most, half of those does guys deserve to be there
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Im sorry but thats not even close, at most, half of those does guys deserve to be there
that's the stupidest comment i've ever heard...
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alright alright, your list is awesome man, I totally agree
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No Benaziza :-[
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switch out gustavo for momo and maybe lee priest for milos
that's a pretty fair list it's just not in the right order.
Top 5
1 Ronnie 03 O
2 Dorian 93 O
3 Shawn 94 O
4 Cormier 99 O
5 Levrone 95 O
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1...ronnie
2...yates
3...haney
4...levrone
5...ray
6...cutler
7...wheeler
8...cormier
9...gaspari
10...nasser
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1.coleman
2.yates
3.wheeler
4.levrone
5.cormier
6.ray
7.V.taylor
8.dillet
9.cutler
10. de mayo
11.el sonbaty
12.haney
13.dexter
14.martinez
15.munzer
(NOT IN ORDER)
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That's funny, every single one of those lists posted has one thing in common:
the MAJORITY of those guys were all at the 95 Olympia....
Now who the heck said this year's lineup was the best ever?! ::)
;)
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That's funny, every single one of those lists posted has one thing in common:
the MAJORITY of those guys were all at the 95 Olympia....
Now who the heck said this year's lineup was the best ever?! ::)
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no... lol... bad observation..
the thing they have in common is that they have all been relatively consistent, and placed well at the big events... like the Olympia, Arnold, NOC etc...
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You left out Michael Francois >:(
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1 Haney
2 Ronnie
3.Dorian
4.Ray
5.Cormier
6.Levrone
7.Wheeler
8.LaBrada
9.Cutler
10.Preist ;D
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You left out Michael Francois >:(
Good point.
I thought he was missing too.
My top 5 for the last 20 (No particular order):
Coleman 1998
Shawn Ray 1996
Levrone 1997 -Grand Prix form
Wheeler - ASC 1993
Yates - 1993
YIP
Zack
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Good point.
I thought he was missing too.
My top 5 for the last 20 (No particular order):
Coleman 1998
Shawn Ray 1996
Levrone 1997 -Grand Prix form
Wheeler - ASC 1993
Yates - 1993
YIP
Zack
you left out 8 time champ Lee Haney..
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you left out 8 time champ Lee Haney..
what year was his last olympia win?
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1. Flex
2. Ray
3. Coleman
4. Haney
5. Levrone
6. Cormier
7. Cutler
8. Yates
9. Nasser
10. Dex
11. Dillet
12. Priest
13. Labrada
14. V. Taylor
15. Gaspari
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what year was his last olympia win?
91
You left out Michael Francois >:(
I'm gonna get a list together tomorrow...I don't knwo if Fancois will be on it or not. I know he won 5 shows-or something like that-but he had a couple of shakey outings and he had a short career....that ones a tough call.
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1. Ronnie Coleman
2. Lee Haney
3. Dorian Yates
4. Kevin Levrone
5. Jay Cutler
6. Flex Wheeler
7. Shawn Ray
8. Rich Gaspari
9. Lee Labrada
10. Vince Taylor
11. Nasser El Sonbaty
12. Chris Cormier
13. Dexter Jackson
14. Gustavo Badell
15. Milos Sarcev
HM: Victor Martinez, Gunter Schirlekamp, Lee Priest, Dennis James...
Fixed.
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I can't believe how many people have that over-rated over-stomached ninja turtle Dexter Jackson in their lists. Too many people give him way too much credit IMO.
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Add Danny Padilla, Aaron Baker and Benfatto.
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I would def put Gary Strydom in top 20.
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1. Flex
2. Ray
3. Coleman
4. Haney
5. Levrone
6. Cormier
7. Cutler
8. Yates
come on...yates gotta be atleast top 3.
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come on...yates gotta be atleast top 3.
never cared for his physique
huge waist, strange legs, noticeable muscle tears throughout his career
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Add Danny Padilla, Aaron Baker and Benfatto.
these guys are from before. and they don't match anybody on the list.
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alright, here ya go, my top 15 from the last 20 years. I tried to think of guys who were consistant and made an impact. I kinda lost some steam at the end cause I'm super busy right now. There are some guys who had fantastic individual showings but only held onto that for a short period of time..anyway, here's my list and a short explanation of why they are on the list:
Rich Gaspari-Awsome. From 86-89 he won a ton of shows and only lost to Haney and Labrada. No one ever did more with such a bad structure. Kinda fizzled out after the 90 olympia and had a failed comeback attempt in 94-95. I still have the 86 Pro World on tape off of ESPN and Rich is incredible there.
Mike Christian-Top 6 in the Olympia every year from 85-90. Won a ton of shows from 88-90. Awesome big guy, only problem was weak legs but his strong bodyparts were so strong they made you forget about his legs.
Lee Labrada-Best little man of all time IMO. No weak spots anywhere. Improved every year except 1990 where they “drug tested” the guys. Look for pics from the 88 grand prix where he traded off wins with Gaspari, awesome condition by both. Labrada could have won at least 1 olympia-1989 and maybe even 1990.
Gary Strydom-From the front nobody could really beat Gary while in his prime. Won a ton of shows between 87 and 90. and I won’t discount his WBF victory because he looked pretty awesome at the first show and didn’t fall off to much at the second even though it was “drug tested”. Some of the best pecs, shoulders, abs, quads, and calfs eveer. Would have been the best guy around if he had a back.
Vince Taylor-Only Ronnie has won more shows, maybe levrone but his recent comeback shows how awesome he is. Pretty much untouchable during the 92 pro circuit but blew it at the O. Awsome right from the get go.
Lee Haney-8 Time Mr. O. Enough said.
Dorain Yates-You can go back and forth for 400 pages about wether he sucks or not but the bottom line is he never placed lower than 2nd in any pro show and that was only twice as a pro. Set new standards and changed the way hundreds trained.
Robby Robinson-One of the greatest comebacks of all time. Best front double Bi maybe of all time, great side chest, great back. His body when he won the Niagra Falls por invitational was one of the best of the entire 80’s.
Kevin Levrone-great right from the get go, probably could have won a couple of olympia’s. Was outstanding at the 96 Arnold, very consistant career, only bump was the 97 Arnold when he came in like 8th but aside form that great in every show he entered.
Shawn Ray-Top 5 in what 12 Olympias? That alone gets him in. Showed a lot of improvement over the course of his career, great abs, brought his back up, only weak aree was his lats were not incredibly wide..but that’s nit picking.
Flex wheeler-1993 Arnold maybe the best physique of all-time. Great career cut short by faulty kidneys. Never liked his attitude but attitudes don’t really count in bb.
Ronnie Coleman-another 8 time mr. o. I don’t agree with all the decisions but he was incredible for his first few.
Jay Cutler-number 2 guy for years, won a bunch of Arnolds a bunch of grand prix’s and an Olympia.
Lee priest-Another great little guy. Very consistant. Besides Darrem Charles and Ronnie the only guy still competing from the very early 90’s. Very consistan career only strike is one bad showing at the Olympia a few years ago.
Mo Beniziza-too bad this guy took it that one step too far, he had as much potential as anybody when he was in shape. I would have loved to see him and Priest on stage together at their peaks.
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alright, here ya go, my top 15 from the last 20 years. I tried to think of guys who were consistant and made an impact. I kinda lost some steam at the end cause I'm super busy right now. There are some guys who had fantastic individual showings but only held onto that for a short period of time..anyway, here's my list and a short explanation of why they are on the list:
Rich Gaspari-Awsome. From 86-89 he won a ton of shows and only lost to Haney and Labrada. No one ever did more with such a bad structure. Kinda fizzled out after the 90 olympia and had a failed comeback attempt in 94-95. I still have the 86 Pro World on tape off of ESPN and Rich is incredible there.
Mike Christian-Top 6 in the Olympia every year from 85-90. Won a ton of shows from 88-90. Awesome big guy, only problem was weak legs but his strong bodyparts were so strong they made you forget about his legs.
Lee Labrada-Best little man of all time IMO. No weak spots anywhere. Improved every year except 1990 where they “drug tested” the guys. Look for pics from the 88 grand prix where he traded off wins with Gaspari, awesome condition by both. Labrada could have won at least 1 olympia-1989 and maybe even 1990.
Gary Strydom-From the front nobody could really beat Gary while in his prime. Won a ton of shows between 87 and 90. and I won’t discount his WBF victory because he looked pretty awesome at the first show and didn’t fall off to much at the second even though it was “drug tested”. Some of the best pecs, shoulders, abs, quads, and calfs eveer. Would have been the best guy around if he had a back.
Vince Taylor-Only Ronnie has won more shows, maybe levrone but his recent comeback shows how awesome he is. Pretty much untouchable during the 92 pro circuit but blew it at the O. Awsome right from the get go.
Lee Haney-8 Time Mr. O. Enough said.
Dorain Yates-You can go back and forth for 400 pages about wether he sucks or not but the bottom line is he never placed lower than 2nd in any pro show and that was only twice as a pro. Set new standards and changed the way hundreds trained.
Robby Robinson-One of the greatest comebacks of all time. Best front double Bi maybe of all time, great side chest, great back. His body when he won the Niagra Falls por invitational was one of the best of the entire 80’s.
Kevin Levrone-great right from the get go, probably could have won a couple of olympia’s. Was outstanding at the 96 Arnold, very consistant career, only bump was the 97 Arnold when he came in like 8th but aside form that great in every show he entered.
Shawn Ray-Top 5 in what 12 Olympias? That alone gets him in. Showed a lot of improvement over the course of his career, great abs, brought his back up, only weak aree was his lats were not incredibly wide..but that’s nit picking.
Flex wheeler-1993 Arnold maybe the best physique of all-time. Great career cut short by faulty kidneys. Never liked his attitude but attitudes don’t really count in bb.
Ronnie Coleman-another 8 time mr. o. I don’t agree with all the decisions but he was incredible for his first few.
Jay Cutler-number 2 guy for years, won a bunch of Arnolds a bunch of grand prix’s and an Olympia.
Lee priest-Another great little guy. Very consistant. Besides Darrem Charles and Ronnie the only guy still competing from the very early 90’s. Very consistan career only strike is one bad showing at the Olympia a few years ago.
Mo Beniziza-too bad this guy took it that one step too far, he had as much potential as anybody when he was in shape. I would have loved to see him and Priest on stage together at their peaks.
Good List, Good reasons. :)
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Good List, Good reasons. :)
after I typed it I was thinking I should have switched beneziza with Mike Francois...I don't know, mike won alot of shows in his first 2 years but he never got the job done at the O, Beneziza did but Mo had some pretty crummy showings at some of the smaller shows so I guess it's a trade off. I guess you could put Mike in there if you really wanted to.
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I would leave Mo in there. I am going to name drop now but Doz told me his inspiration for his crazy condition and back was competing against and losing to Mo at the 90 Night Of The Champs.
Doz said he was fucking awsome.
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I would leave Mo in there. I am going to name drop now but Doz told me his inspiration for his crazy condition and back was competing against and losing to Mo at the 90 Night Of The Champs.
Doz said he was fucking awsome.
Mo in that shpae could be top 10 alltime. Incredible showing. Padilla looked great at that show too....I wanted to see danny in that condition at the olympia that year and see him and labrada going at it, that wolulda been awsome.
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Mo in that shpae could be top 10 alltime. Incredible showing. Padilla looked great at that show too....I wanted to see danny in that condition at the olympia that year and see him and labrada going at it, that wolulda been awsome.
Without question Danny, Labrada and Priest have got to be the best 'short Men' Ever.
I remember going to a seminar with Labrada back in 89. He looked like nothing in clothes but on stage he was amazing. He brought top texan amatuer Stony Lee Grimes out with him as well. Labrada was also maybe the best poser ever.
I never had the pleasure of seeing danny but from photos helooks incredible.
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Labrada was phenomenal.
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alright, here ya go, my top 15 from the last 20 years. I tried to think of guys who were consistant and made an impact. I kinda lost some steam at the end cause I'm super busy right now. There are some guys who had fantastic individual showings but only held onto that for a short period of time..anyway, here's my list and a short explanation of why they are on the list:
Rich Gaspari-Awsome. From 86-89 he won a ton of shows and only lost to Haney and Labrada. No one ever did more with such a bad structure. Kinda fizzled out after the 90 olympia and had a failed comeback attempt in 94-95. I still have the 86 Pro World on tape off of ESPN and Rich is incredible there.
Mike Christian-Top 6 in the Olympia every year from 85-90. Won a ton of shows from 88-90. Awesome big guy, only problem was weak legs but his strong bodyparts were so strong they made you forget about his legs.
Lee Labrada-Best little man of all time IMO. No weak spots anywhere. Improved every year except 1990 where they “drug tested” the guys. Look for pics from the 88 grand prix where he traded off wins with Gaspari, awesome condition by both. Labrada could have won at least 1 olympia-1989 and maybe even 1990.
Gary Strydom-From the front nobody could really beat Gary while in his prime. Won a ton of shows between 87 and 90. and I won’t discount his WBF victory because he looked pretty awesome at the first show and didn’t fall off to much at the second even though it was “drug tested”. Some of the best pecs, shoulders, abs, quads, and calfs eveer. Would have been the best guy around if he had a back.
Vince Taylor-Only Ronnie has won more shows, maybe levrone but his recent comeback shows how awesome he is. Pretty much untouchable during the 92 pro circuit but blew it at the O. Awsome right from the get go.
Lee Haney-8 Time Mr. O. Enough said.
Dorain Yates-You can go back and forth for 400 pages about wether he sucks or not but the bottom line is he never placed lower than 2nd in any pro show and that was only twice as a pro. Set new standards and changed the way hundreds trained.
Robby Robinson-One of the greatest comebacks of all time. Best front double Bi maybe of all time, great side chest, great back. His body when he won the Niagra Falls por invitational was one of the best of the entire 80’s.
Kevin Levrone-great right from the get go, probably could have won a couple of olympia’s. Was outstanding at the 96 Arnold, very consistant career, only bump was the 97 Arnold when he came in like 8th but aside form that great in every show he entered.
Shawn Ray-Top 5 in what 12 Olympias? That alone gets him in. Showed a lot of improvement over the course of his career, great abs, brought his back up, only weak aree was his lats were not incredibly wide..but that’s nit picking.
Flex wheeler-1993 Arnold maybe the best physique of all-time. Great career cut short by faulty kidneys. Never liked his attitude but attitudes don’t really count in bb.
Ronnie Coleman-another 8 time mr. o. I don’t agree with all the decisions but he was incredible for his first few.
Jay Cutler-number 2 guy for years, won a bunch of Arnolds a bunch of grand prix’s and an Olympia.
Lee priest-Another great little guy. Very consistant. Besides Darrem Charles and Ronnie the only guy still competing from the very early 90’s. Very consistan career only strike is one bad showing at the Olympia a few years ago.
Mo Beniziza-too bad this guy took it that one step too far, he had as much potential as anybody when he was in shape. I would have loved to see him and Priest on stage together at their peaks.
you rate mike christian and lee priest over chris cormier?
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you rate mike christian and lee priest over chris cormier?
that was another guy I was thinking about after I posted that list. I was swamped today so the list didn't turn out as well as I would have liked. Chris should probably be there. Mike was awsome in his prime, he went from 85-90 beign in the top 6 at the O, he won a ton of shows and finished no lower than 5th in any show other than the olympia that I can remember...I think he was 5th at the 85 NOC....he was a huge star when I started following BB. Preist has been in the game forever, he turned pro in 91.
Both these guys qualify...maybe cormier qualifies more, I don't follow BB as close as I used to.
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that was another guy I was thinking about after I posted that list. I was swamped today so the list didn't turn out as well as I would have liked. Chris should probably be there. Mike was awsome in his prime, he went from 85-90 beign in the top 6 at the O, he won a ton of shows and finished no lower than 5th in any show other than the olympia that I can remember...I think he was 5th at the 85 NOC....he was a huge star when I started following BB. Preist has been in the game forever, he turned pro in 91.
Both these guys qualify...maybe cormier qualifies more, I don't follow BB as close as I used to.
priest and christian are both very good bodybuilders.
chris has won 11 ifbb pro shows...not many guys can say that.
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priest and christian are both very good bodybuilders.
chris has won 11 ifbb pro shows...not many guys can say that.
lets just say he slipped my mind. I did thie list chronologically so I started with teh first couple of guys that I remembered that were awsome and went from there..when I got to the era that chris was in I was thining Levrone, Wheeler and ronnie....
I'll make him an honorary member of my list ;D ;D ;D ;D