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Title: Trips across the Border...
Post by: DIVISION on October 24, 2006, 03:03:18 PM

With the recent crackdown on AAS across the border and subsequent death of QV's operation, how many of you have made recent trips across with the intent of bringing AAS back?

If so, how much did you get across, and how did you bring it back?

The biggest issue for me is the pharmacies near the tourist areas, because they are notorious for phoning ahead to the border checkpoint and ratting people out.  I believe some are paid to do this by the cops.

I'm not sure if the prices are even low enough to make the risk worth it.

I suppose I could take a prescription with me from an American doctor and have that with me in case I'm questioned, as the new law that came out allows for a 90 day supply, I believe, of any medicine can be filled via a Mexican pharmacy as long as it's written by a certified American Doc.

I think I'll try that when I go down next time.

On the other hand, if any of you have had success smuggling any across, I'd like to know.

What are the prices like these days?

Can you negotiate prices or are they set?

What legit pharmaceutical brands are still being sold?




DIV

Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: The Squadfather on October 24, 2006, 03:05:40 PM
i wouldn't even risk it, if anything i'd go down there buy some, inject it there and come back and maybe go back down as needed.
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: Wombat on October 24, 2006, 04:30:46 PM
actually the border agents have seen every possible way to bring back drugs...Even if it layed out here exactly how to do it, you wouldn't be giving any info that they didn't already know...
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: DIVISION on October 24, 2006, 05:50:15 PM
Overall bad idea unless you have a script.  Fines range from 500 to 5000 dollars if caught.  Not sure about prices although my buddy who goes down regularly says prices rose with the presidential elections fairly recently.  I know they used to carry Ttokyo but I have heard bad things about them.

I'm referring to Organon products, not any of the cheap vet gear.

When I was down there years ago they had the Organon Rediject syringes.

I'd hope they still have some pharmaceutical grade there.



DIV
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: udeluz on October 24, 2006, 05:58:42 PM
I'd keep any info on bringing anything illegal into the country to yourself,

Or

Take it to a PM ("The PM system works......")

Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: DIVISION on October 24, 2006, 09:25:27 PM
Gotcha.  Not sure about now but they used to (two and half years ago...i think)

About ten years ago when I was down there, I bought an Organon Rediject syringe, but I can't remember how much they were.

I'll probably just bring a legal script from the states and get it filled...

That is legal and there's nothing they can do about it.


DIV
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: Journeyman on October 25, 2006, 11:12:03 AM
I'd keep any info on bringing anything illegal into the country to yourself,

Or

Take it to a PM ("The PM system works......")



agreed theres some LE members on this forum they say there cool but theyre still LE
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: Overload on October 25, 2006, 11:24:07 AM
agreed theres some LE members on this forum they say there cool but theyre still LE

Yeah but they won't waste their time on "one" guy getting a few amps across the boarder...

they are looking for source information to catch the big guys...

8)
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: DIVISION on October 25, 2006, 12:16:15 PM
agreed theres some LE members on this forum they say there cool but theyre still LE

LE is everywhere, so it doesn't matter.

I'm not giving out my personal info here so it shouldn't matter.

Yeah but they won't waste their time on "one" guy getting a few amps across the boarder...

they are looking for source information to catch the big guys...

8)

Exactly....



DIV
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: Dredlock Rasta on October 25, 2006, 03:47:15 PM
About ten years ago when I was down there, I bought an Organon Rediject syringe, but I can't remember how much they were.

I'll probably just bring a legal script from the states and get it filled...

That is legal and there's nothing they can do about it.


DIV



You can bring the redijects across through customs. Just claim them but you can have no more than 50 units, in other words, 50 redijects. They don't ask for perscription or anything. Remember steriods are a medicine just like pencillin. When you bring across pecillin they don't ask for a script or confiscate it, they don't have the authority to just like steriods. However, veterianry steriods are illegal even if you claim them.
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: DIVISION on October 25, 2006, 04:28:06 PM
You can get in trouble for not declaring meds and yes they will ask you for your script or you have to call down ahead of time.  Just because they are meds doesn't mean you don't have to show why you have them. In recent years they have busted everyone, not just source guys.  I say that because I know guys who have been busted in the past few years and they are not source men.  I think looking like a juicer will get you caught more easily. 

That is exactly why I'd just declare the meds and show them my script via an American doc...

There's nothing they can do.

I also agree that being a "bodybuilder" will get you popped easier.

There's no way I could get away with it......



DIV
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: SPRINKFSU on October 25, 2006, 06:12:32 PM
I dont think it would be worth it to get caught
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: b.c. on October 25, 2006, 08:20:23 PM
Organon Sust.rediject ($8-$12)
Sten Rediject 3  ($8-10)
Deca organon rediject 2 ($16)
Primoteston-Schering 1 $6-$8
Stenox 2.5 mg tabs ??
Proviron _Schering $11 for 10
clenbuterol_ Novegam $5 20 tabs
Testoprim 3 ($7-$8) ouch.... they hurt

Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: DIVISION on October 25, 2006, 08:28:41 PM
Organon Sust.rediject ($8-$12)
Sten Rediject 3  ($8-10)
Deca organon rediject 2 ($16)
Primoteston-Schering 1 $6-$8
Stenox 2.5 mg tabs ??
Proviron _Schering $11 for 10
clenbuterol_ Novegam $5 20 tabs
Testoprim 3 ($7-$8) ouch.... they hurt

These are recent quotes?

$8 for an Organon rediject seems high....  :o



DIV
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: b.c. on October 25, 2006, 08:32:09 PM
 Yes that is recent, depends where you go I suppose.  The farther into Centro the better of course.  Which border btw.
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: Dredlock Rasta on October 26, 2006, 03:49:11 AM
You can get in trouble for not declaring meds and yes they will ask you for your script or you have to call down ahead of time.  Just because they are meds doesn't mean you don't have to show why you have them. In recent years they have busted everyone, not just source guys.  I say that because I know guys who have been busted in the past few years and they are not source men.  I think looking like a juicer will get you caught more easily. 

Man ya'll are making this harder than it has to be. I never have had to show a script for any kind of medication, e.g. sustanon, clenbuterol, clomid, nolvadex, etc. Just claim them at customs in other words show them what you have. Customs officers are not pharmacists, they don't take perscriptions.

How can you show them a perscription once you have already bought the stuff? See, you give your perscription to the pharmacist and he takes you perscription and give you the medicine, e.g., steriods. You don't get your perscription back. Therefore you can't show your perscription and customs can't ask you for one.
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: Dredlock Rasta on October 26, 2006, 03:51:41 AM
These are recent quotes?

$8 for an Organon rediject seems high....  :o



DIV

Those are slightly lower prices. But it depends where you go.
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: Overload on October 26, 2006, 06:05:46 AM
In recent years they have busted everyone, not just source guys.  I say that because I know guys who have been busted in the past few years and they are not source men.  I think looking like a juicer will get you caught more easily. 

i was talking about the LE officers who visit this board as someone stated above...


8)
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: SPRINKFSU on October 26, 2006, 06:22:46 AM
Im happy paying $2.00 a amp for sust 250 by organon and $2.00 a amp for test 250 from galenika but thats just me.
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: Overload on October 26, 2006, 06:39:03 AM
Im happy paying $2.00 a amp for sust 250 by organon and $2.00 a amp for test 250 from galenika but thats just me.

Damn...

i would be happy as well!!!

8)
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: DIVISION on October 26, 2006, 09:09:03 AM
But then you have no proof of a legal purchase, at least IMO.  Border officials know what AAS looks like.  And if you declare it there, it doesn't mean you can't be busted on the US side and have to verify legal possession.

Exactly.

Legal possession in Mexico doesn't equate to legal possession in the states.

I remember a case in Texas where a woman had an American script for medication, went to Mexico and had it filled because it was less expensive, came back across and was arrested for unlawful possession simply because she broke local state laws, though she DID NOT break the Federal law.

In essence, the state law took precedence, and she was prosecuted.

I believe that was Texas only........doesn't apply to other states, but the point being you need legal justification for whatever jurisdiction you are in.



DIV
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: blondmusclhunk on October 26, 2006, 10:28:41 AM
You have to be very careful especially if your going only over the border. If your going to puerto vallarta or mexico city its prob easier but go to a pharmacy no where near the tourist areas.  Speak spanish as much as possible. Ive don this before and have had no problems but the key is going with some friends and have one that looks like he doesnt work out at all carry it for you.   I would never carry the gear myslelf they could peg me as a body builder right away.  I get asked most of the time if i have any prescription medication. coming back from Europe too.
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 26, 2006, 10:59:43 AM
fuck mexico and the shit they sell.  Mexico today is not the same as it was years ago.  The recent busts down there have limited the supply of real gear and increased the supply of shit gear.  They piss me off when I am down there and guys outside of pharmacies walk up to me and yell, "steroids, you want steroids?".  One slimey asshole grabed my arm and tried to pull me in so I knocked him out cold right there.

Sleezy place.
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: benchmstr on October 26, 2006, 12:35:25 PM

I have to agree here..  Even the cops are scum.. I don't recommend helping Mexico's economy by wasting your money on their junk anymore
agreed, besides its to easy to find a greedy doctor in America that will give you real shit not some bathtub brew and its a legal prescription ;)
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: DIVISION on October 26, 2006, 01:52:46 PM
f**k mexico and the shit they sell.  Mexico today is not the same as it was years ago.  The recent busts down there have limited the supply of real gear and increased the supply of shit gear.  They piss me off when I am down there and guys outside of pharmacies walk up to me and yell, "steroids, you want steroids?".  One slimey asshole grabed my arm and tried to pull me in so I knocked him out cold right there.

Sleezy place.

I wasn't considering buying any vet gear......but if the Organon Sustanon was decently priced, I'd consider it.  The redijects can't be faked, too expensive for counterfeiters to do it.



DIV
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: b.c. on October 26, 2006, 02:04:22 PM
Div,

I personally think that human gear is far better than vet or ugl.  Also I think lower doses is more prudent and safe in the long run.
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: DIVISION on October 26, 2006, 04:01:43 PM
Div,

I personally think that human gear is far better than vet or ugl.  Also I think lower doses is more prudent and safe in the long run.


I don't have access to a lab, but I would definitely like to test out an Organon Sustanon250 amp vs. a UG Sustanon.

I know the Organon would test out better, but wondering just how much better....

Moderate doses of Test (500MG-1G ew) are best for the longterm......for recreational users.

You don't need more than that unless you're thinking about competing.

That's a whole different animal.



DIV
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: DIVISION on October 26, 2006, 05:16:32 PM
Div..  What about that thing you were saying about switching your test all the time and I told you not to..    'member dat?    ;D

Switching your test?

What is that supposed to mean exactly?

Enlighten me.

I've been running Sustanon250 ever since I turned to the Darkside.




DIV
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: Dredlock Rasta on October 26, 2006, 06:02:36 PM
I don't have access to a lab, but I would definitely like to test out an Organon Sustanon250 amp vs. a UG Sustanon.

I know the Organon would test out better, but wondering just how much better....

Moderate doses of Test (500MG-1G ew) are best for the longterm......for recreational users.

You don't need more than that unless you're thinking about competing.

That's a whole different animal.



DIV

1G each week is a moderate dose?
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: DIVISION on October 26, 2006, 11:34:42 PM
1G each week is a moderate dose?

1G is the limit.......anything over that is what I'd consider megadosing.

Depends on the goals of the person, really.


DIV
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: whitewidow on October 27, 2006, 12:04:01 AM
Im happy paying $2.00 a amp for sust 250 by organon and $2.00 a amp for test 250 from galenika but thats just me.

your not paying that in the usa! ill buy into this if your in europe somewhere- otherwise 2$ an amp is not realistic
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: blondmusclhunk on October 27, 2006, 12:31:04 PM
I had a friend that recently got some organon deca in Mexico city and he loved it.  I think it depends where you go in Mexico.  If your going just across the border yes they see the tacky American tourists coming right away with their fanny packs.  Mexico city is not a huge American tourist spot so you will get better there.

I agree the Europe does have a better supply.  But when anyone goes try not to act like the typical U.S tourist.  Try to speak some of the language of the country you are in and dress in a smart way no picture t shirts, no sweats or shorts. Then they will give you a better price I bought some great gear in Paris last year. Paid a reasonable price.



Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: tab1 on October 27, 2006, 10:32:36 PM
TJ, SUST redijects about $14ea. Walk, walk everywhere and no one will be able to figure you out. Go with someone who is older and was born in Mexico and they will never bother you at the border. Go with your buddies who may be young and they may hassle you all the time. Watch your back, especially in any night clubs, girls on revolution are hot. If your wondering why the curbs are so high when your walking around, just prey it doesn't rain hard. 8)
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: DIVISION on October 28, 2006, 07:02:29 PM
your not paying that in the usa! ill buy into this if your in europe somewhere- otherwise 2$ an amp is not realistic

I am skeptical as well, widow.

Dealers in the states don't even get $2 per amp AT COST, much less for re-sale. 

There are even european sources that don't get that price, so how am I supposed to believe SPRINKFSU is telling the truth.

Sounds like something ZEEK would say.....  ::)



DIV
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: udeluz on October 29, 2006, 11:00:04 AM
I am skeptical as well, widow.

Dealers in the states don't even get $2 per amp AT COST, much less for re-sale. 

There are even european sources that don't get that price, so how am I supposed to believe SPRINKFSU is telling the truth.

Sounds like something ZEEK would say.....  ::)



DIV

Cant be Zeek, he is in a timeout.... ;D



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Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: Arnold jr on October 29, 2006, 01:38:53 PM
Cant be Zeek, he is in a timeout.... ;D



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Yes he is in t/o but SPRINKFSU is not...get it?
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: udeluz on October 29, 2006, 02:49:52 PM
LOL,  ;D

Ya AJ, I knew..

But wasnt sure who else knew...


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Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: DIVISION on October 30, 2006, 07:44:26 AM
DIV if you can get a legal american script from a doc, why the hell would you even bother with mexico? redinject or not... ???

Damm I'd gladly pay the extra expense to be able to pic it up at Albertsons down the street! No worries about fakes, no shit trip to mexico, no dealing with border control -- pure human grade USA style.

Explain.

I'm planning a trip there anyway with the girlfriend so while I'm down, I wanted to see if they still have the Sustanon Redijects....

Sustanon isn't available in american pharmacies anymore...

Mexico has it, and most of Europe, though.



DIV
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: Dredlock Rasta on October 30, 2006, 01:52:13 PM
DIV if you can get a legal american script from a doc, why the hell would you even bother with mexico? redinject or not... ???

Damm I'd gladly pay the extra expense to be able to pic it up at Albertsons down the street! No worries about fakes, no shit trip to mexico, no dealing with border control -- pure human grade USA style.

Explain.



American doctors will only give you a little juice each month. Not 500mg of test a week, probably not even 200
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: DIVISION on October 30, 2006, 01:59:04 PM


American doctors will only give you a little juice each month. Not 500mg of test a week, probably not even 200

Bro,

I've already had doctors who prescribed me that much and more.

It all depends on who it is and what they are in it for.

Some doctors will prescribe AAS for a price and not think twice about it.

Don't tell me what they do or don't do unless you've experienced it yourself.


DIV
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: Dredlock Rasta on October 30, 2006, 05:36:35 PM
How much do they charge for test, deca, or d-bol? Say 1Occ of 200mg of any mentioned?
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: DIVISION on October 30, 2006, 05:39:22 PM
How much do they charge for test, deca, or d-bol? Say 1Occ of 200mg of any mentioned?

Don't know anymore.

He got popped by the Feds for prescribing outside of his practice and he's currently serving time.

He made alot of money by prescribing for bodybuilders but it eventually came back to bite him in the end.   :-X



DIV
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: DIVISION on October 30, 2006, 06:26:07 PM
DIV, do you like Test E, C, Sust or Prop for your cycles?  I'm just curious.  I hear so many different things about each but you seem advanced.  I've only used Test 400 blend.

Sustanon for all cycles......last four weeks I use Prop only.

Test is Test, but since I run LONG cycles the Sustanon and it's blend of esters is ideal......never too high, never too low....




DIV
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: Arnold jr on October 30, 2006, 06:37:01 PM
Do you think Test 400 is worthless compared to Sust?  I know they are both blends but I have never heard of anyone, including myself, that got much out of it b/c of pain.
What's the mix of test-400? I ask because I've never really gotten into these "alternative" blends.
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: Arnold jr on October 30, 2006, 06:47:38 PM
To be honest I'm sure exaclty, I think it's different than Sust and there must be a decent amount of Prop because it hurts like hell.  After one 2cc pin you will hurt.  I couldn't bench, I couldn't walk right.  I had to lie to people close to me and tell them I pull a hamstring and glute muscle.  I shot into my quad as well and walking again hurt.  It was made by Denkall I believe.
Yeah, I know about the little white lie. When I had my infection this summer I told everyone I had pulled my hamstring.
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: Arnold jr on October 30, 2006, 07:21:31 PM
Yeah it sucks but you don't want to tell friends and family that your test injection is making you look like a gimp.  "Oh hey mom, no I'm okay.  Yeah, the Sust really hurt me yesterday.  I'll be good though in a few days."  Haha.  Wouldn't that be fun. ;D
Funny you mentined that about parents. Actually, my parents are some of the few people that out right know about my AAS use, there are a few others that know, but only a handfull. Lots of people speculate and ask, but it's none of their business. I remember when my parents confronted me about it, it was about a year ago. They said they had known for a while, they were simply scared to ask. But I'm always up front with my family about everything, I will never lie to my family and I do not care what the consequences might be. In the end, they have taken it well, there was and I guess still is a level of concern, just for the simple fact that they are uneducated about it, like most people are. But I've done my best to help them have a clearer perspective, and all in all my entire family is very supportive of my goals.

Hey Div, sorry about skewing your thread a little bit. But you know as well as anyone how these threads can go all over the place.
Title: Re: Trips across the Border...
Post by: DIVISION on October 30, 2006, 07:35:36 PM
Do you think Test 400 is worthless compared to Sust?  I know they are both blends but I have never heard of anyone, including myself, that got much out of it b/c of pain.

Never tried Test 400.....

Never felt the desire.   ???





DIV