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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Positive Bodybuilding Discussion & Talk => Pictures of Members & More => Topic started by: GoneAway on October 27, 2006, 05:08:18 AM
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21 yrs old
Weight: 70.1 KG at the time the pics were shot
These pics were taken 2 1/2 weeks after I stopped training and dieting. My sole diet since has been utter junk (The Adonis Principles) and I have lost 2 kilos since I stopped training. As you can see, I'm an ectomorph with a fast metabolism. Feel free to rip on my room.
I plan to get back on the horse next week, so consider these my "before" pics.
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despite being skinny i reckon you do actually look like you have a good bb structure - can see the lats even at that thin !! Get eating bro - your only 21 so plenty of time to fill out
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despite being skinny i reckon you do actually look like you have a good bb structure - can see the lats even at that thin !! Get eating bro - your only 21 so plenty of time to fill out
Thanks man, really appreciate it.
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Everybody has to start somewhere, keep working at it you already are ahead of many of the people your age good job. The only suggestion I have is at 21 take the faggy wrestling photos of steve austin and big poppa pump off the walls... ;D
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I like stone cold too
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LOL
You're at the right place, dude. Don't worry about a thing. You won't look like that for much longer as long as you take our advice.
How's your training intensity, duration and frequency? How's your diet?
despite being skinny i reckon you do actually look like you have a good bb structure - can see the lats even at that thin !! Get eating bro - your only 21 so plenty of time to fill out
I agree! I was surprised to see those wings spread as wide as they were! I see some back potential! We need to convince you to deadlift to get you to reach that potential!
And don't take down those wrestling posters. I have a friend who's bodybuilding is motivated by his favorite wrestlers and he trains like a fucking beast!
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Great potential dude. Just eat!! make sure your getting 1.5 grams of protein per pound of body weight a day, plus vitamins, glutamine and branch chain. Train each body part heavy and hard only once a week. Get rest!!! youlll get there!!
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103413.0;attach=113115;image)
looks like someone was a little generous with his cod piece ;D
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Thanks for the positive comments everyone. I expected to get torn a new one! Always Sore, my ex didn't want them on the wall either, but I've had them for quite a while. They're a part of my room.
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You're at the right place, dude. Don't worry about a thing. You won't look like that for much longer as long as you take our advice.
How's your training intensity, duration and frequency? How's your diet?
I agree! I was surprised to see those wings spread as wide as they were! I see some back potential! We need to convince you to deadlift to get you to reach that potential!
And don't take down those wrestling posters. I have a friend who's bodybuilding is motivated by his favorite wrestlers and he trains like a fucking beast!
Intensity is about average. I focus on form alot so I kind of lose intensity by going a bit slower, trying to feel the contraction and keep things under control, even if that's not the case half the time. Duration's about 1 1/2 hrs. Diet's going by the Arnold Encyclopedia Level I food, and Level I protein shake. Getting 6 meals a day, about 45g protein in each meal, 30g in shake. It's enough to make me grow, so that's what I'll be picking up again next week.
I was never good at Deadlifts, which is why I stopped months ago. I tried someones advice and took them out of my routine hoping it would help me want to do it more, but it hasn't. Never got the form down, no matter how hard I practiced. Thanks for the encouragement, figgs, and all the best.
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eat every chicken breast you can find.
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Good work on your diet. That's one step down. Now the next is for you to learn all about intensity. Personally, I get little satisfaction out of a set unless it's taken to absolute failure. Even with exercises like squats. I need to do forced reps to absolute failure until I collapse the second I rack the weight. That way, my leg workout is 4-5 sets long and I progress as fast as I'd ever care to. My calf workout is 1-2 sets a week! I'm in and out of the gym, although often I'm limping out... :)
From workout to workout, I suggest you focus on working on increasing the levels of intensity each time. Don't jump into it, just feel it through week after week. And then go home and rest!
Do you think you're psychologically prepared for above-average training intensity?
"The fundamental principle of intensity refers almost exclusively to the human will and the ability to command your muscles to contract against the only real resistance-your mind."
-Mike Mentzer
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figgs, how does increased intensity relate to increased muscle growth?
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figgs, how does increased intensity relate to increased muscle growth?
it doesn't.
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it doesn't.
Actually it can.
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You aren`t an Ectomorph by the way. You still have a good deal of bodyfat. You just need to keep training. Muscle will come in time.
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it doesn't.
Don't try to confuse LoveTheSport. Training intensity is the single most important determinant factor in achieving optimal muscle growth. Here I have for you a passage from Mike Mentzer's book in HIT from the chapter on the principle of intensity:
"Carrying a set to a point where you are forced to utilize 100 percent of your momentary ability is the single most important factor in increasing size and strength. Working to this 'point of failure,' when another rep is impossible despite the greatest effort, ensures that you pass through the 'break-over point,' a point in the set below which growth cannot be stimulated, and above which growth will be stimulated. Once you transcend this break-over point in the area of intensity, your results will increase geometrically. And for every degree over the break-over point, there will be-as there must be-a dramatic reduction in the amount of time you spend training at that intensity level."
Not only does it make sense to any reasonable person, the results speak for themselves. I've been training with high intensity since the beginning, just over 1 year ago.
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You aren`t an Ectomorph by the way. You still have a good deal of bodyfat. You just need to keep training. Muscle will come in time.
Thanks man, you're definately an inspiration.
How do you figure I'm not an ectomorph? I have a few traits as you can see.
ensures that you pass through the 'break-over point,' a point in the set below which growth cannot be stimulated, and above which growth will be stimulated. Once you transcend this break-over point in the area of intensity, your results will increase geometrically.
I don't fully understand that part.
And for every degree over the break-over point, there will be-as there must be-a dramatic reduction in the amount of time you spend training at that intensity level."
Does this mean you must slow down the set speed once gains are made? Kind of like cycling the intensity on and off?
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That Mentzer passage just means that as long as you train with 100% effort of intensity, you will be training for optimal increases in muscle growth. It's like a short cut to results. It just takes a lot of motivation and willpower to train at such high intensity levels for a consistent amount of time. But, as the passage says, you will NEED to train less. While utilizing the high intensity method I only train 1-6 sets a muscle.
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around 35-40 lbs of fat to lose
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Hey bro like mentioned before you have a pretty good structure. Just focus on getting stronger on the basic lifts in the gym and eat anything you can find. Stay with the healthy food though. You are getting good advice on here.
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"Carrying a set to a point where you are forced to utilize 100 percent of your momentary ability is the single most important factor in increasing size and strength. Working to this 'point of failure,' when another rep is impossible despite the greatest effort, ensures that you pass through the 'break-over point,' a point in the set below which growth cannot be stimulated, and above which growth will be stimulated. Once you transcend this break-over point in the area of intensity, your results will increase geometrically. And for every degree over the break-over point, there will be-as there must be-a dramatic reduction in the amount of time you spend training at that intensity level."
LOL ;D
Very interesting paragraph, though the science behind it seems to be missing. Just because something makes sense in theory doesn't mean it is true. That's where we take our heads out our asses and demand actual scientific proof; NOT a bunch of analogous reference passed off as logical proof.
You may also misunderstand HIT training - no offense, lets keep this discussion free of insults. You say that you have been doing HIT for a year now, since you started training. This doesn't make sense because I remember you posting your high volume workouts on the training section a while back. Your percieved level of intensity may have been high during these workouts (we can get into the definition of intensity later) but this is not HIT training. You can have very intense(again, perceived intensity) high volume workouts, but when you say you do "high intensity training" it is genreally assumed that you follow the HIT layout (Mentzer, arthur, etc)... HIT kinda has a trademark with that. Might wanna be careful with that to avoid confusion.
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around 35-40 lbs of fat to lose
hes in the mid 30's bf.
you like stavios has said have a good 40 pounds of fat to lose EASILY.
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LOL ;D
Very interesting paragraph, though the science behind it seems to be missing. Just because something makes sense in theory doesn't mean it is true. That's where we take our heads out our asses and demand actual scientific proof; NOT a bunch of analogous reference passed off as logical proof.
You may also misunderstand HIT training - no offense, lets keep this discussion free of insults. You say that you have been doing HIT for a year now, since you started training. This doesn't make sense because I remember you posting your high volume workouts on the training section a while back. Your percieved level of intensity may have been high during these workouts (we can get into the definition of intensity later) but this is not HIT training. You can have very intense(again, perceived intensity) high volume workouts, but when you say you do "high intensity training" it is genreally assumed that you follow the HIT layout (Mentzer, arthur, etc)... HIT kinda has a trademark with that. Might wanna be careful with that to avoid confusion.
There's plenty of scientific research backed by Mentzer's statements. I'm not going to pull out the book and search for them all but trust me they exist, to a certain extent. There's no actual lab results or anything that I know of, however.
I understand the HIT workout routine. That's a seperate routine from my own. In my workouts, I focus on the principle of high intenstiy. Not Mentzer's exact routine. I use his routine for certain muscles like bis and calves. I'm going to start my first actual HIT routine in about a week and half. Yeah, I'll admit I didn't think to clarify on the fact that I don't use the HIT routine, but only have used its set of principles as a part of my own routine.
Good memory. I did once make the mistake of using high volume workouts. My workouts were not only percieved as intense, they were very intense. I was always an extremist in the gym. But the level of intensity, which was still great at that point, has been surpassed over and over again with time and experience. It's now all about absolute failure on each and every set.
I think it was around Oct-Nov '05 when I started to lower volume and raise intensity. I remember doing 20 set chest workouts and now, just an hour ago, I finished a 6 set chest workout. And as time went by, I continued raising the intensity which forced me to lower the volume. Even now I'm still learning how to raise intensity. My calf workout has just recently been changed to 1 set. Before that I did 4, but I discovered a new level of intensity that I hadn't known to exist before.
I'm really looking foward to the challenge of following Mike Mentzer's HIT routine! I'll keep Getbig updated on it's effectiveness.
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figgs do you get much DOMS from HIT training?
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Nah, not really. My calves got EXTREMELY sore after my last workout. That's because I overtrained them with 3 sets. LOL
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You aren`t an Ectomorph by the way. You still have a good deal of bodyfat. You just need to keep training. Muscle will come in time.
SHUT THE F U C K UP
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Looks like your working hard Keep it up man.
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eata' eata' eata"!!! (as my italian grandma would say!) then, eat more! u need size bro!
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LMFAO at a 21 year old guy with wrestling posters taped on his wall.
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Listen bro Adonis is a liar. He doesn't eat all that junk. How tall are you and what are your lifts?
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Listen bro Adonis is a liar. He doesn't eat all that junk. How tall are you and what are your lifts?
Thanks for asking! I'm about 5"7-5"9. Haven't measured since high school. Haven't kept a training log recently (and haven't trained for a month), but from what I can rougly remember:
BB curl: 80p for 8
Bench: 45k for 3
Chinups: 8 in a row (unweighted)
Seated Tri Ext: 70p for 4-6
Seated Military Press: 80p for 6
Good Mornings: 45kg for 4
Can't really remember much else. I'll be keeping a diary when I start a new membership soon.
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Thanks for asking! I'm about 5"7-5"9. Haven't measured since high school. Haven't kept a training log recently (and haven't trained for a month), but from what I can rougly remember:
BB curl: 80p for 8
Bench: 45k for 3
Chinups: 8 in a row (unweighted)
Seated Tri Ext: 70p for 4-6
Seated Military Press: 80p for 6
Good Mornings: 45kg for 4
Can't really remember much else. I'll be keeping a diary when I start a new membership soon.
This is getbig...you are required to inflate all your poundages 50%.
get with the program slim.
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i am interested in this because i was much thinner than you. though i'm only 180 pounds now i like to see people who don't have the best genetics strive to get big. TA has a very good physique but he's an attention whore. forget about him. something you can do is maybe try certain exercises for 4-6 weeks and if you make no progress change them. learn what works for you.
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This is getbig...you are required to inflate all your poundages 50%.
get with the program slim.
Sorry, big man. Those 50% poundages will come in a few years!
i am interested in this because i was much thinner than you. though i'm only 180 pounds now i like to see people who don't have the best genetics strive to get big. TA has a very good physique but he's an attention whore. forget about him. something you can do is maybe try certain exercises for 4-6 weeks and if you make no progress change them. learn what works for you.
Wow, I don't think anyone could be thinner than me, but I was proven wrong by that Asian guy. :) Anyone can get big, but us skinnies have to (as Chris Duffy said) "take a more specific course to get our body to fill out the way we want." I have to eat 5-6 meals a day, about 35-40g protein, 50g carbs to grow, which isn't always easy. I have a very fast metabolism, which does suck, but what can you do.
What motivated you to get bigger? Good point about training. That's something I haven't really paid much attention to until lately, when I decided to mix things up here and there, which felt good because it was a change from what I'd been doing for a year or more (on a shitty diet).
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Sorry, big man. Those 50% poundages will come in a few years!
Wow, I don't think anyone could be thinner than me, but I was proven wrong by that Asian guy. :) Anyone can get big, but us skinnies have to (as Chris Duffy said) "take a more specific course to get our body to fill out the way we want." I have to eat 5-6 meals a day, about 35-40g protein, 50g carbs to grow, which isn't always easy. I have a very fast metabolism, which does suck, but what can you do.
What motivated you to get bigger? Good point about training. That's something I haven't really paid much attention to until lately, when I decided to mix things up here and there, which felt good because it was a change from what I'd been doing for a year or more (on a shitty diet).
It was just a joke. What I was getting at is EVERYONE on here lifts huge weights.Only a few have proved it,so don't believe the bull shit.That's all I was saying.Good luck with your gains.