I just recently found this board
And im not sure yet , but as far as the topics iv read on this board , no real experts or pro`s contribute much.And they are the ones whose advice we should be listening to
Pro`s - experts help a guy out...chime in pleease
...Seriously
Oh deffinitely experts should advise I cant beleive that even a question
Look at ANY topic on the board and you find a reason to follow what a PRO / EXPERT says over anyone else
We have got verry GENERAL ideas of training.Taining is dynamic man.Its full of intracacies...especially this is an area where ppl who have experience can help.*Their* own experiences are textbooks for us , what theyve found out to be better (be it training / nutrtion) when theyve applied certain thangs and they results they got.
Its a given that results will never be typical ... but rather individual
They pro`s and experts have TRULY walked the walked.They advice is much more reliable than anything anybody else would say
So explain to me what you are being REAL about
Suggest ways to get some pros, or...Start contributing..
hahaha... you're going to make them cry
The pros ???
Actually you may be surprised at what some of the pros know when it comes to training.Back in the 80's there was a magazine writer that was interviewing a Ms O I think it was.He had asked what she did for her arms She replied that she took a bar & lifted it up & down (barbell curls) which freaked the interviewer out.She didn't know any names for any of the exercises that she performed supposedly.The entire interview went that way according to the mag writer.The Ms O only did what her trainer showed her to do.A bunch of BS or no?Since it's from a magazine you have to wonder but does make a person go hmmmm.
wooo...
the more you talk the more you lose credibilty make ppl realise that having 3000 posts means shit - what actual credibility does your `3000` post marathon give you when you talk nonsense - utter complete moron
Bring on the experts - and get rid of these morons
Pumpster - so how about you ALSO contribute instead of keep asking someone else to.
And if you ask me , if the head persons in charge of this site understand that ppl WANt to talk to pros/experts in regards to training , then THOSE in charge can relay the message to them and ask them to try to stop by now and then to contribute.Shawn Ray or any expert is much more likely to listen to Ron or someone else higher up ,rather than me
Get it ? Got It ? Good.
Your turn Mr 6000
the more you talk the more you lose credibilty make ppl realise that having 3000 posts means shit - what actual credibility does your `3000` post marathon give you when you talk nonsense - utter complete moronWe've already are contributing. Your turn, instead of complaining some more.
Bring on the experts - and get rid of these morons
Pumpster - so how about you ALSO contribute instead of keep asking someone else to.
And if you ask me , if the head persons in charge of this site understand that ppl WANt to talk to pros/experts in regards to training , then THOSE in charge can relay the message to them and ask them to try to stop by now and then to contribute.Shawn Ray or any expert is much more likely to listen to Ron or someone else higher up ,rather than me
Get it ? Got It ? Good.
Your turn Mr 6000
Gewd for you 6000This troll is probably another account of an existing member. Ignore.
This troll is probably another account of an existing member. Ignore.
Pumpster , man do you say the same things over and over.Can i ask you a question , whats wrong with you ? Case in point 400 + pages of Ronnie vs Dorian , now you pulling that repetitive shyte once again
This troll is probably another account of an existing member. Ignore.
You're boring.
She replied that she took a bar & lifted it up & down (barbell curls) which freaked the interviewer out.
I just recently found this board
And im not sure yet , but as far as the topics iv read on this board , no real experts or pro`s contribute much.And they are the ones whose advice we should be listening to
Pro`s - experts help a guy out...chime in pleease
...Seriously
The pro's can't give you any advice you can use unless you are on a ton of gear like they are, never read workouts in magazines by pro's and think you can handle that volume of sets unless you are on a ton of gear.
I thoroughly appreciate your input Pros on 1 side.The Experts i also speak about.What about them ? In fact experts even more can help us , because they are most knowledgeableIt's pretty obvious stuff that's said regularly in forums dude. Not even true if you knew better-drugs are not a factor in many aspects of training actually.
This may sound ironic or stupid, but I think that's one of the most fundamental things to know about training.
For example: If you want to work lats, hang onto a bar and pull yourself up. For chest, lie down and push something in a straight line upwards. So simple, you don't even need names for the exercises! I mean, if everyone went and learnt something about how to stretch and contract each muscle, you wouldn't need any fancy names or anyone to teach you how to train, as you'd simply go by what contracts the muscle.
Agreed, it's easier to open a book of training exercises and go by that (hell, it's what I do), but I'm just saying that BBing doesn't need to be fancy names and things. You just find what works, by doing whatever it is.
Now wouldnt it be nice to have a 1 on 1 forum with those ppl where you can ask them questions that you need.This freeloader's trying to get what pros charge for, while saying that no one else's experiences are worthwhile. That in itself means there's a lack of sophistication to go with the unfriendliness.
It's pretty obvious stuff that's said regularly in forums dude.
Get to work reading the links readily available online, or get in touch with some pros. So far you've said and shared absolutely ZERO of your own info, a horrible example for such a whiner.
Oh deffinitely experts should advise :) I cant beleive that even a question
Look at ANY topic on the board and you find a reason to follow what a PRO / EXPERT says over anyone else
We have got verry GENERAL ideas of training.Taining is dynamic man.Its full of intracacies...especially this is an area where ppl who have experience can help.*Their* own experiences are textbooks for us , what theyve found out to be better (be it training / nutrtion) when theyve applied certain thangs and they results they got.
Its a given that results will never be typical ... but rather individual
They pro`s and experts have TRULY walked the walked.They advice is much more reliable than anything anybody else would say
This freeloader's trying to get what pros charge for, while saying that no one else's experiences are worthwhile. That in itself means there's a lack of sophistication to go with the unfriendliness.
What makes you think that a pro has more knowledge over someone thats been training for lets say, 10-15-20 or more years?
Deffinitely i can trust someone like that , i know wouldIf you had a clue you wouldn't make generalizations about everyone else. You should really comment on JPM's advice as well as starting to make your own training contributions.
Say something about training. Contribute. Post previous magazine training articles. Go to Priest's posts for training advice and/or ask him to come here. Do it, bigmouth.
So everyone's advice is shit?
Having the last line in a discusssion does NOT make your argument better , remember that , herkekeke ;)Make you feel good to trash people? never understood dudes like you, must be an inferiority problem.
Now sit and post whole day you idiot
Later ;D
alexx posts here! that's all we need!hahahahah Got PMs suggesting either JPM or Priest.
Actually a couple of the Pro's I've met, watched some other Pro's and top dog BB'ers train and have heard about second hand are not always the best code source for knowledge and training advice.Well said. The best thing is a pool of shared experience.
So, LoveTheSport?,...your trying to tell us you would pay a pro 100's of dollars an hour to train you even if they didn't know what the names of exercises were for particular body parts?The example I gave was of a Ms O w/multiple title wins.I would expect a person that represents the pinnacle of their profession to be able to tell me what a very basic exercise is & which muscle said exercise is meant to develop.Training, imo, in the method you stated is a very hit & miss style of training.Seen teens doing exactly that type of training & always at a loss to explain why they don't see any results.I myself would put experience (person training for x amount of yrs.) over a persons credentials (certified personal trainers).I have yet to see a person training for let's say 20 yrs. tell a person to do squats on a medicine ball like some certified trainers have been known to do.
I'm just saying you don't have to know what an exercise is called (squats, bench press, etc) to know what can work a targetted area (e.g. lower chest). Some exercises don't even have names. You can walk into a gym without any knowledge of what an exercise is called but still be able to make gains by following what you know works the muscle. Having names makes it less barbaric when saying the exercise, but it's not necessary. Strange that even the trainer didn't know the name of it, but that's my point. Trainers don't really need much experience, as they have the knowledge that BBers need experience to get.Well you can't work LOWER CHEST, you can't isolate a part of the chest, the chest is one big mo fo beefy muscle, when you work chest you don't work lower or upper chest , you simply work CHEST! Anyone that does DECLINE bench by the way, that mainly hits your triceps, very little chest, stick to flat bench, incline bench, bar or DB, I prefer DB's on both myself.
Well you can't work LOWER CHEST, you can't isolate a part of the chest, the chest is one big mo fo beefy muscle, when you work chest you don't work lower or upper chest.that does DECLINE bench by the way, that mainly hits your tricepsSome buy into this wacky theory about being unable to hit different parts of a muscle when in fact it's quite obvious to most that it's easily done regardless of physiology. Decline presses & flys are excellent for lower chest.
Some buy into this wacky theory about being unable to hit different parts of a muscle when in fact it's quite obvious to most that it's easily done regardless of physiology. Decline presses & flys are excellent for lower chest.
Some buy into this wacky theory about being unable to hit different parts of a muscle when in fact it's quite obvious to most that it's easily done regardless of physiology. Decline presses & flys are excellent for lower chest.
how many guys have you seen with the upper portion of chest overpowering the rest?That's because the muscle there generally doesn't get that big, not because of the exercises.
None...well, maybe franco.