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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Bigger Business on October 29, 2006, 01:35:08 AM
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How do these guys that win the nationals etc. get their pro cards and all of a sudden put on 30lb's of muscle in 12 months.
They get their pro card and most say things like "I'm taking a year off to put on some size"
For the most part they fuckitup and end up looking like crap...but what comes available when they get that card....why didnt they do that shit 2 years ago?
yep, askin the big questions
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They simply up the dosage my man.
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Douchebag...... they're usually trying to make a weightclass in the NPC.
It's easier to go a little lighter and get your pro card in a lower division. IFBB doesn't have weight classes so theres no need to hold back once you get to the pros.
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Its a mental thing, they gotta keep up with the big boys, and get bigger.
As you say, they f**k it up most of the time. Perfectly competitive physiques get ruined.
As amateurs, these individuals are bound by weight classes, and usually try to stay just on the high-end of the weight limit, unless they're super-heavies, in which case the need to come in sharp dictates the bw.
Once they turn pro, the need to keep up with the Joneses, makes the guys put on ridiculous amounts of size in a short time frame, whilst when they were amateurs it took 5 years to put on the equivalent.
In the process, they lose sharpness, symmetry suffers, the gut gets distended, weak bodyparts become more prominent.
Great examples of not fixing what aint broke were Labrada and Ray.
Priest is one that put on size gradually, and didnt stuff-up his shape.
Kamali is on the other end of the scale.
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Douchebag...... they're usually trying to make a weightclass in the NPC.
It's easier to go a little lighter and get your pro card in a lower division. IFBB doesn't have weight classes so theres no need to hold back once you get to the pros.
Yeah, that's what Edgar Fletcher did... ::)
YIP
Zack
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That's dope.
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Yeah, that's what Edgar Fletcher did... ::)
YIP
Zack
It took this guy like 50yrs to turn pro...
(http://body.builder.hu/imagebank/pictures/977004425.jpg)
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Douchebag...... they're usually trying to make a weightclass in the NPC.
It's easier to go a little lighter and get your pro card in a lower division. IFBB doesn't have weight classes so theres no need to hold back once you get to the pros.
thanks cockgoblin
and thanks team
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It took this guy like 50yrs to turn pro...
(http://body.builder.hu/imagebank/pictures/977004425.jpg)
Edgar Flether never turned pro. Never won at the Nationals, USA's, or NA's
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My bad :).
Thats right, I was thinking of Daryl Stafford, who took 51yrs to turn pro, and his biggest showing was at the Masters(Thats how long it took). Injured both legs if not mistaken?
Makes you wonder if its all really worth it. Fletcher is gonna tell his grandkids he almost did it, and Stafford is gonna say he just made it. And people are gonna say: "...oh, thats nice...".
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I'm sure when you turn an IFBB Pro you have more access to their "links" and people in the industry who know how to get you anything and everything for the right price (not always $ :-X).
I know you must get these links in the NPC also but I'm sure there are more people willing to help you push to the next level once you are in with the IFBB crew. Also these guys will know what and how much of it you should take. I think some BBers have no clue at all about gear, anti Es GH, IGF, Slin etc.
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Edgar was competing against the Like or Prince and Titus, we all know how fruitful their carreers ended up being.
Titus is in JAIL.
PRINCE is a 140 soaking wet,
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growth hormone.
and tom prince is 170 easy.
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The pro level is a whole new playing field. Watch Phil Heath, hes doin it right.
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How do these guys that win the nationals etc. get their pro cards and all of a sudden put on 30lb's of muscle in 12 months.
They get their pro card and most say things like "I'm taking a year off to put on some size"
For the most part they fuckitup and end up looking like crap...but what comes available when they get that card....why didnt they do that shit 2 years ago?
yep, askin the big questions
up to 12-15%,,dianabol,,testosterone,,nandrolone decanoate,,growth,,insulin if starting in low enough bodyfat,,AMERICAN growth (jintropin gh will do the job but not as good and not as fast),,lots of rest and lots and lotsss of pizza hut and bbq chiken with beans ;) lots of calories my friends this is THE key to anything when it comes to hormones manufactored size.
* oil and nolotil are in there. some use more some use less. everyone uses.
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How do these guys that win the nationals etc. get their pro cards and all of a sudden put on 30lb's of muscle in 12 months.
They get their pro card and most say things like "I'm taking a year off to put on some size"
For the most part they fuckitup and end up looking like crap...but what comes available when they get that card....why didnt they do that shit 2 years ago?
yep, askin the big questions
you are forgetting they diet down for the weight classes. also, when turned pro they think they need to be super huge and some lose something in the quest for "pro" size.
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up to 12-15%,,dianabol,,testosterone,,nandrolone decanoate,,growth,,insulin if starting in low enough bodyfat,,AMERICAN growth (jintropin gh will do the job but not as good and not as fast),,lots of rest and lots and lotsss of pizza hut and bbq chiken with beans ;) lots of calories my friends this is THE key to anything when it comes to hormones manufactored size.
* oil and nolotil are in there. some use more some use less. everyone uses.
most honest post on here.
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Edgar Flether never turned pro. Never won at the Nationals, USA's, or NA's
edgar got S-C-R-E-W-E-D the year jerry rogers won the HW class, what was that 90? He got majorly screwed the year Chris duffy won the HW class also, I have it on tape from ESPN and it's not even close, he crushed Duffy IMO.
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Perhaps Duffy auditioned privately for the judges prior to comp?
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growth hormone.
and tom prince is 170 easy.
GH makes a huge diff.... there's also the reason that many people with poor genetics would never want to discuss... until they get their pro cards a lot of very good bbers do not use high dosages of aas...
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GH makes a huge diff.... there's also the reason that many people with poor genetics would never want to discuss... until they get their pro cards a lot of very good bbers do not use high dosages of aas...
I think the opposite is often true. When going for the pro card they pull out all the stops. There is extreme abuse in the amateurs, probably worse than in the pros on average. I mean how many do you think are not on growth in the nationals for example?
I think the size gain has a lot to do with the removal of weight classes and thinking you have to put on a lot of size all of a sudden. A mistake for most and they never come in the same conditioning.
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They simply up the dosage my man.
LOL your nick its great!
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I think the opposite is often true. When going for the pro card they pull out all the stops. There is extreme abuse in the amateurs, probably worse than in the pros on average. I mean how many do you think are not on growth in the nationals for example?
I think the size gain has a lot to do with the removal of weight classes and thinking you have to put on a lot of size all of a sudden. A mistake for most and they never come in the same conditioning.
Yep.
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How do these guys that win the nationals etc. get their pro cards and all of a sudden put on 30lb's of muscle in 12 months.
They get their pro card and most say things like "I'm taking a year off to put on some size"
For the most part they fuckitup and end up looking like crap...but what comes available when they get that card....why didnt they do that shit 2 years ago?
yep, askin the big questions
that easy. Amateurs are broke. Turning Pro means. You get your juices first, and pay later
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branch put on thirty pounds the first year he hit growth.
dave henry put on 20.
phil heath is at 240 offseason now.
growth. im not saying its a bad thing, it is what it is. you get the money from a sponser, you can afford growth.
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Heath was 265 in those bodyrock pics.
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with a competition of 220? need i say more. his bodyfat in the bodyrock MIGHT have hit 20%. maybe.
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branch put on thirty pounds the first year he hit growth.
dave henry put on 20.
phil heath is at 240 offseason now.
growth. im not saying its a bad thing, it is what it is. you get the money from a sponser, you can afford growth.
Yeah but how broke do you have to be to not afford growth as an amateur? If we are talking Chinese growth it's not that expensive. I think all the top amateurs are on it. Most of them have the growth look, soft mushy water bloated muscle.
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up to 12-15%,,dianabol,,testosterone,,nandrolone decanoate,,growth,,insulin if starting in low enough bodyfat,,AMERICAN growth (jintropin gh will do the job but not as good and not as fast),,lots of rest and lots and lotsss of pizza hut and bbq chiken with beans ;) lots of calories my friends this is THE key to anything when it comes to hormones manufactored size.
* oil and nolotil are in there. some use more some use less. everyone uses.
what a bullshit post, as long as both are 191aa THEY ARE THE SAME, the only difference can be potency. retard.
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This GH is 191aa sequence. It is very pure and very potent. It recieves great reviews at a great value.
These kits are sold in 100 IU Kits.
100 IU - 400 IU $240
500 IU - 900 IU $230
1000 IU - E-Mail
* Hygetropin GH Kits *
These are the old brown tops that became branded. These kits are now boxed and labeled. These kits are 191aa sequence. They are lab tested and very pure.
These kits are sold in 200 IU Kits.
200 IU - $560
400 IU - $1100
600 IU -
800 IU -
1000 IU - E-Mail
* IGF-LR3 *
This is IGF-LR3 that comes in a complete kit. It contains everything you need to start your research. This product is very pure and very potent.
Eack Kit contains:
1mg (1,000mcg) Lypholize powder
Acidec Acid
.9 Sodium Chloride
1mg - 4mg $120
5mg - 9 mg $110
10mg - E-Mail
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what are you on now P.R.?
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what are you on now P.R.?
just winstrol/anavar.
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Watch out for Kai Green. He was small at the Colorado pro...I saw him last Saturday here in Denver guest posing...he got huge!!!!
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This GH is 191aa sequence. It is very pure and very potent. It recieves great reviews at a great value.
These kits are sold in 100 IU Kits.
100 IU - 400 IU $240
500 IU - 900 IU $230
1000 IU - E-Mail
* Hygetropin GH Kits *
These are the old brown tops that became branded. These kits are now boxed and labeled. These kits are 191aa sequence. They are lab tested and very pure.
These kits are sold in 200 IU Kits.
200 IU - $560
400 IU - $1100
600 IU -
800 IU -
1000 IU - E-Mail
* IGF-LR3 *
This is IGF-LR3 that comes in a complete kit. It contains everything you need to start your research. This product is very pure and very potent.
Eack Kit contains:
1mg (1,000mcg) Lypholize powder
Acidec Acid
.9 Sodium Chloride
1mg - 4mg $120
5mg - 9 mg $110
10mg - E-Mail
hygetropin should be $1.6 per IU max, you're getting screwed if you pay what you you just listed...
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Yep.
And gh15 is one of the most real posters who post here. I will put any credibility I have on the line to back up what he has to say pretty well all of the time, if not all of the time.
please...the guy is an idiot.. says you cant get pro size on anything other than human grade, what a clown. as long as the active ingredient is the same, IT DOESNT FUCKING MATTER. not to mention theres no trenbolone human grade, exept parabolan which was discontinued a long time ago, and id be extremely suprised if even 10% of the top pros dont use tren..