The German author Henryk M. Broder recently told the Dutch newspaper De Volkskrant (12 October) that young Europeans who love freedom, better emigrate. Europe as we know it will no longer exist 20 years from now. Whilst sitting on a terrace in Berlin, Broder pointed to the other customers and the passers-by and said melancholically: “We are watching the world of yesterday.”Well, if Turkey enters to the EU, there will be no turning back! I thought in emigrate to Canada last year, but it was impossible. If european natives's mass emigration occurs, probably the weak leaders will realize that when the time comes there will be no one to defend their pitty asses, it will, most certainly, lead to their resignation, as cowards they are, will probably run away and ask for international political asylum! On the other hand I cannot leave my family defensless, as they really don't have a chance to emigrate. So it is a big problem. I guess that I'll stay and fight, probably convulsions and social riots (like France) are going to be normal within 8-10 years!
Europe is turning Muslim. As Broder is sixty years old he is not going to emigrate himself. “I am too old,” he said. However, he urged young people to get out and “move to Australia or New Zealand. That is the only option they have if they want to avoid the plagues that will turn the old continent uninhabitable.”
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This is only intended for the educated - those who are able to differentiate that this is a European issue, so those with a US-only political perspective please don't comment (Berserker "the molested", Fagmo, Camel Rapist), instead go back to school and educated yourselves.
IMO this article is pretty much bang on.
Any fellow Europeans planning on emigrating anytime soon? Has the issue of mass muslim immigration got anything to do with that decision?
Well, if Turkey enters to the EU, there will be no turning back! I thought in emigrate to Canada last year, but it was impossible. If european natives's mass emigration occurs, probably the weak leaders will realize that when the time comes there will be no one to defend their pitty asses, it will, most certainly, lead to their resignation, as cowards they are, will probably run away and ask for international political asylum! On the other hand I cannot leave my family defensless, as they really don't have a chance to emigrate. So it is a big problem. I guess that I'll stay and fight, probably convulsions and social riots (like France) are going to be normal within 8-10 years!
When i read these statements from those kind of people i always keep in mind who the sourse is.. ie : a german... ::)Germans dintinguish people for the color of their hair???? ??? Most of european natives have black hair! :-\
We all know how much germans love us black haired people... :-\
Germans dintinguish people for the color of their hair???? ??? Most of european natives have black hair! :-\
I was in the post office yesterday and watched as this old paki woman, unable to speak a word of english drew out her benefits whilst nodding and smiling. Her hands were covered in that orange stuff
Thats what i meant...watch the f**k out.... :oWhat country are you from?
ofcourse i was refering at the wwII...they wanted to breed only blue eyed and blond haired humans remember...."das Uber Mensch"....
When i read these statements from those kind of people i always keep in mind who the sourse is.. ie : a german... ::)
We all know how much germans love us black haired people... :-\
What country are you from?
Ahh, so you'd rather fight between ourselves (Europeans) rather than the very real threat of islamisation of Europe? :-\
The Nazi days of Germany are long gone. When are you going to wake up and stop living in the past and face the present threats?
Sure they love their "God" but tell me, do they love the general infidel that resides in Europe? No.A homo one or an extremely liberal one!
Again, bringing a "Christian" issue into the discussion is pretty weak, but I will add, if that is true, I hope they skin that fucking priest alive.
But what kind of 17 year old guy lets a priest f**k them in the arse? ???
I'm from the Netherlands...I have dutch friends, and they do not think like you. But the Netherlands is, probably, the most liberal country in europe it normal for you to think like that! But I also knoe that far right movements are growing a lot in your country... That means something...
I know the war is over son.. ;) don't make no mistake..i know what went on in both those wars because we where very well educated in highschool and have been told alot of true storys about the war from grandparents of my own aswel as of friends.
i just don't see the Islam as a threat as you do so there we differ in opinion.
Most of the Islamic aren't terrorist but god loving people.
If with you as you say that religion brings nothing but war or genocide but most of the time there are good people and bad people no matter where you look. I'm a man of no religion but the thread you are talking about isn't reall to me....what reall to me is is the a fucking Chritian hound aka a priest just admitted that he fucked more than 25 kids in the ass when they went to the church after school....he did this to them from the age of 9 to 17.... :-\
Sure they love their "God" but tell me, do they love the general infidel that resides in Europe? No.
Again, bringing a "Christian" issue into the discussion is pretty weak, but I will add, if that is true, I hope they skin that fucking priest alive.
But what kind of 17 year old guy lets a priest f**k them in the arse? ???
I have dutch friends, and they do not think like you. But the Netherlands is, probably, the most liberal country in Europe it normal for you to think like that! But I also know that far right movements are growing a lot in your country... That means something...
Why is it weak to bring the Cristian issue in to this discussion?
Weren't they the ones who killed the most over time "in the name of god"... :-\
And about that 17 year old: i guess he got used to it or sumthing... :D
I have a lot of different friends from different races and religions...maybe that is the reason for my way of thinking. They gave me allot of info about their believes so it took allot of questions away for me...
You are right that the far right movements are growing and that concerns me aswel but don't think religion is the fault of that...there are still allot of stupid people around with no education to speak of and you can make them believe anything you want ....talking bout propaganda right!
The Armenian Genocide was partially motivated by Islamic ideology.
You're joking right?
The crusades, as I have said countless times were to reclaim back the holy lands. Hundreds of thousands died on both side.
Islam is fundamentally scripted has to be spread by the sword.
You've stated you're higher educated, you might not need reminded about the koran/hadiths and events such as:
http://www.collegenews.org/x2857.xml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide
A long with many of muhammads own expaditions during his times, against many ideolising tribes and Jews. How did he justify these murders? God "spoke to him" this was enough for him to justify murder.
Please educated me on genocides commited in the name of Christianity, I'm here to learn.
I didn't say that the criastians put the genocides on the map.....i simply stated that what ever religion you are talking about , they all seem to have made a lot of casualties ! Don't forget that for the most part all religion is peacefull but there are always people who read the bible or koran or whatever , and make their own asumptions about those believes!
Those are the ones making bombs you see...sure i'm scared of those people but i just don't see it happening that my country will be all Islamic within the next 5 to 10 years..come on now...
But you also have to keep in mind that we have a multi cultural society over here and we are used to dealing with different races and believes for many years you see....
I've been to America 3 times and i'm still amased that the blacks are still doing the dirty work and that they don't get respected as human beings....
some have argued that national socialism was very similar to a cult, with the hitler as the hero-prophet of the movement.
You said Christianity has directly led to more deaths than any other religion. Please note WW2 was not religious based and neither was WW1. Please note that the Armenian genocide was inspired by religion.
Yeah I've recently got back from America after quite a long stay in CA, and the blacks were cool, respected and assimilated. Unless it's different where ever you went in the States I believe you're talking shite mate... seriously everything was cool, you just sound another Mr. European Square. Mis-conceptions about America. Oh and an holiday to Florida hardly counts as experience. Everybody hates tourists.
Oh... and this shit about people being peaceful.
Religion is suppressed peace. If I was to put every human in a 12 by 12 foot cage for their entire life there would also be peace. No wars, no murder.
Step out of the box of multiculturalism that you socialist government has successfully brainwashed you with.
I've been to America 3 times and i'm still amased that the blacks are still doing the dirty work and that they don't get respected as human beings....
lol...where did you go, a backwoods biker bar in mississippi?
black culture rules the media and is glorified endlessly, we have stuff like affirmative action, most peoples' sports heros are black, hell most suburban white kids wish they were black.
I was in the post office yesterday and watched as this old paki woman, unable to speak a word of english drew out her benefits whilst nodding and smiling. Her hands were covered in that orange stuffhahahahaahahahah
I didn't say that the criastians put the genocides on the map.....i simply stated that what ever religion you are talking about , they all seem to have made a lot of casualties ! Don't forget that for the most part all religion is peacefull but there are always people who read the bible or koran or whatever , and make their own asumptions about those believes!
Those are the ones making bombs you see...sure i'm scared of those people but i just don't see it happening that my country will be all Islamic within the next 5 to 10 years..come on now...
But you also have to keep in mind that we have a multi cultural society over here and we are used to dealing with different races and believes for many years you see....
I've been to America 3 times and i'm still amased that the blacks are still doing the dirty work and that they don't get respected as human beings....
the blacks in MIAMI are being 'held back'???
dude miami is one of the most multicultural cities in the whole country, if you go down there and your WHITE you will be the minority.a good portion of the people there dont even speak english...the place is literally crawling with central american/carribean people.
ive been all over the place but south beach miami-one of the richest places on earth- is one of the few places in america where i felt like I was the one who didnt belong there. in one 2 minute span we witnessed a black dude cruising in a bentley with 2 blonds in the back (lol) and two guys that looked like they came straight off a basketball court in compton step out of a ferrari. i assure you miami is NOT one of the places with notable 'black oppression'.
f**k are you talking about? African Americans hold middleclass jobs in the United State. They have a voice in the government, as well as in the media. They've recieved humane treatment and equality for only about 40 years or so, but now they have a very strong voice and influence.
The ones who do the "dirty work" are immigrants, 50-70 hours of hard labor a week is not uncommon.
I've been to South beach too my friend..try to go to a mall and see who are walking around with sweepers to clean shit up.... ;) All Black i tell ya..
And who the f**k cares anyway who drives around in a Bentley on ocean drive ?
You know there are rich black and white people....so what?...That suppose to mean something?
theres lots of black 'janitors' in miami because like i said there is a very high percentage of black/caribbean people IN miami, lots of immigrants too.
around here 90% of the janitors are mexican, why? because they are the majority in this city, and we have shitloads of immigrants from mexico who willingly take up all the 'undesireable' jobs.
go up north and you will see mostly white dudes doing the dirty work, cause they are mostly white up there.
bottom line is, its not as racial as you think.
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I've been to America 3 times and i'm still amased that the blacks are still doing the dirty work and that they don't get respected as human beings....
I'm not saying that what you say isn't true....but i saw what i saw on 3 different occasions when i was in the States...but in all honesty...we were talking about the islam and the thread they suppose to be in Europe. Not about the black society in America...
Yeah. Euromonster must be either high, misinformed or both. Blacks have it better in America than anywhere else. Black culture dominates the youth, as well as the music industry and media. That's why 99% of the music put out now is fucking hip-hop related.
Euro has fallen pray to being way too PC. Today, in North America pretty much everyone has an equal chance to make something of themselves regardlesds of color. Education and work ethic are the main reasons anyone is either a success or failure.
freespirit, you're judging off what you've seen of your local socialist news station.but is it really that bad to the point you think muslims are bent on domination of europe
You wouldn't even try to believe they want to make out America is worse than socialist Europe would you?
One of the main reasons for areas like new Orleans is the fact that the ethnic groups clump together, creating their own ghettos. If they dispersed their own societies and behaviour would change accordingly.
This is the problem with immigration in Europe. Muslims are the biggest perpetrators of this social clumping.
Do muslim ghettos exist in the netherlands like they do in Britain and France? Just look what has happened in Britain (riots [verging on civil war]) same in France, except I'd class that as a minor civil war as it's happening daily there.
And every son of a whore, including Mr. Whiteman Socialist/Far leftie likes to keep the whiteman down in this day and age. Somehow, the blame always comes back to Mr. Whiteman ::)
but is it really that bad to the point you think muslims are bent on domination of europe
It's not a "European" thing. They want WORLD domination. It is prescribed in the koran.so basically through apeasement the world would seem to be slitting it throat for a second time
The koran tells of 2 distinct categories of the world, the islamic world (states under sharia law) and the world at war.
The koran dictates that muslims must breed fast, and aim to take over the countries they inhabit, and supress the non-believers.
61:9 He it is Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islamic monotheism) to make it victorious over all (other) religions even though the Mushrikűn (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, and disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah and His Messenger Muhammad) hate (it). (Hilali and Khan, The Noble Qur’an, Riyadh: Darussalam, 1996)
There's a lot of passages like this in the koran, do the research for yourself.
If you can prove me wrong on any of this $200 is yours.
Now here's some questions:
Do you think the muslims of the netherlands would rather have a islamic goverment over the current dutch goverment?
Would the majority like to impose shariah law and the jizya?
so basically through apeasement the world would seem to be slitting it throat for a second time
Yes.i have been thinking a lot about this latley and i find myself torn between the fact this is happening and maybe im being to judgemental
Appeasment is the path lazy European socialists have chose. Socialism, the welfare state has led Europeans into a era of political lazyness. For example, YOU don't really give a shit about any of this do you? Honestly, I bet you couldn't care less.
i have been thinking a lot about this latley and i find myself torn between the fact this is happening and maybe im being to judgemental
Oh FUCKING hell... you are an appeasing socialist aren't you? It's always YOUR fault and not the muzzies... ::)nah im starting to see the violence and starting to see that we as a society have gotten lazy when it comes to actually seeing everything for what it is im seeing all the violence and starting to see when someone tells you who they are belive them
Wake up.
Now here's some questions:
Do you think the muslims of the netherlands would rather have a islamic goverment over the current dutch goverment?
Would the majority like to impose shariah law and the jizya?
I think not....you got to remember most of the Moslims in our country are second and third generation moslims. They all are speaking the language by now...even the women today are very good at speaking Dutch.you would think it would be but im starting to think a lot of them would say live under muslim law
If you ask a Moslim in my country if he wants to live like the people in Afganistan under strickt Moslim laws ,or if he wants to enjoy Dutch society with all the freedom which comes with it , i think the answer would be very simple don't you think?
Where do you get that crap from? You know that blacks aren't respected as human beings? Give me a break. ::)
you would think it would be but im starting to think a lot of them would say live under muslim law
Trust me...not one Moslim man living in Amsterdam would want to go back to his Native country to go and live in the desert again.. ;)
You also have to know that allot of them are BORN in my country and are Dutch by nationality..
whut up euro baby 8)
Just chillin in my liberal country.. ;D
You don't understand. I wish for European countries to remain liberal. Islam detests liberalism, the hate of liberalism can be found deep down in the fabric of islam.
PROVE ME WRONG!
I'm not saying you're wrong but i just don't agree with the islamic thread to Europe as you stated before..thats all.
Where do you come from Nordic?
Nordic, I'm just questioning the whys on what is happening in the world. I don't consider myself as a true socialist, in fact in my opinion all politics and every politician is more or less questionable.
And what about all these religions and their dogma's. What do we really know about their origin, purpose.
Nothing that is happening is a coincidence. Somehow in Europe we are going towards chaos, and some people (with real power) are going to benefit from that. Again!
I think not....you got to remember most of the Moslims in our country are second and third generation moslims. They all are speaking the language by now...even the women today are very good at speaking Dutch.
If you ask a Moslim in my country if he wants to live like the people in Afganistan under strickt Moslim laws ,or if he wants to enjoy Dutch society with all the freedom which comes with it , i think the answer would be very simple don't you think?
There you go..enjoy.... :)
What about the guy who killed Van Gogh? He was a muslim who was pissed of at non-muslim's.
What does a brake rotor have to do with anything?
???
First of all try to come to this conversation a bit more informed on the subject of the killing on Theo van Gogh...because that was clearly not the reason he got killed.. :-\
I'm not a Muslim so when i'm pissed of at a muslim should i kill him because he is one?....i get pissed at people from different races on a dayley basis driving my car to work, but that doesn't mean i go on a killing sprea does it?
Mohammed Bouyeri assassinated van Gogh in the early morning of Tuesday November 2, 2004, in Amsterdam in front of the Amsterdam East borough office (stadsdeelkantoor) on the corner of the Linnaeusstraat and Tweede Oosterparkstraat streets. He shot him with eight bullets from a HS 2000 (a handgun produced in 2000 in Croatia), and Van Gogh died on the spot. Bouyeri slit van Gogh's throat and then stabbed him in the chest. Two knives were left implanted in his torso, one pinning a five-page note to his body. The note threatened Western governments, Jews and Hirsi Ali (who went into hiding). The note also contains references to the ideologies of the Egyptian organization Takfir wal-Hijra.
He claims to have murdered van Gogh to fulfill his duty as a Muslim.
A second generation migrant from Morocco...
Parents are Norwegian, I'm English.
Got any nigerian in ya kidder?
(can you guess whats comming next?)
His murder has everything to do with islam.
No....his murder had to do with this guys hatered for Theo van Gogh.....and not his hatered towards not islamic people... ::)
Theo was the one who insulted people to the core of their being on every occasion possible. Look at true adonis....he's scared to be kicked in the nuts or even worse get killed in a fight because he keeps on insulting people untill they turn agains him.... :-\ Maybe not a very good example but you get the picture...
Bezerkers a fella? reading his wet liberal posts i always thought he was a lass.
If it werent for the asbo i would make the trip over to the usa to see him pronto. his bottom would wish it had never been born!
What? So you're justifying his murder? You're also dismissing the connection between islam?
No.. and stop putting words into my mouth....there's a connection alright but for the most part it was agitated by Theo.... :o
If you poor enough fuel on to the fire it will turn ugly....
So is islam beyond criticism? Are the freedoms we have fought wars for no longer applicable where islam is concered?
He was displaying his right of freedom of speech.
You ARE an islamic appeaser. Do you know a man named Churchill? Do some research brother.
Why don't you try and think out side the box ?
Everything is black or white with you...how a bout the grey area buddy?
And no...i'm not an islamic appeaser but i think my balls are bigger then yours because you sound very afraid and without love in your life .... ::)
Just think for yourself for a minute instead of following Blair/Bush/media talking etc etc....
Huh? ???
I don't follow Bush and I certainly don't follow Blair.
You're the one not thinking IMO.
Why is it so hard for you to realize that we don't think alike!
Get over it and stop trying to force your opinion on me because they are wrong from the beginning....i'm done arguing with someone who isn't capable of thinking for himself... :)