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Getbig Main Boards => General Topics => Topic started by: Bast000 on November 01, 2006, 06:01:49 PM
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How many more do you guys think will die before the US pulls out?
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Bast, for the love of God everytime you post it's just like having John Kerry on here....I'll quote Imus from today "Just keep your mouth shut, go biking, go windsurfing, so sailing..anything, just shut your mouth"!!
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At least double
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Bast, for the love of God everytime you post it's just like having John Kerry on here....I'll quote Imus from today "Just keep your mouth shut, go biking, go windsurfing, so sailing..anything, just shut your mouth"!!
What? I posted a fact dipshit.
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Bast, for the love of God everytime you post it's just like having John Kerry on here....I'll quote Imus from today "Just keep your mouth shut, go biking, go windsurfing, so sailing..anything, just shut your mouth"!!
Ouch, are you getting touchy about all the dead US soldiers? I thought you didn't care because they were volunteers?
And by the way, just avert the attention away from the dead soldiers and onto what that moron Kerry said so that no one actually talks about the real issues and instead focuses on the words of some idiotic blowhard.
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Actually aspiring republicans should just hide their head in the sand everytime things like this are brought up. That way they don;t have to live with the real truth and can just blame everything on Liberals.
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I'd like to see Bush send his two daughters to fight in Iraq.
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ask the soldiers in iraq if they want to come home. theyll ask to stay. over 50% of the soldiers there re-enlist after their tour of duty,when they are allowed to go home. republicans shouldnt blame the liberals. we should all be blaming the terrorists.
there is no shortage of people wanting to go to iraq. the problem is theres way too many people that dont understand why someone would go there. if you dont believe in the war or your too afraid, then fine, dont fucking go.
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ask the soldiers in iraq if they want to come home. theyll ask to stay.
Those soldiers who want to stay are stupid then.
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ask the soldiers in iraq if they want to come home. theyll ask to stay. over 50% of the soldiers there re-enlist after their tour of duty,when they are allowed to go home. republicans shouldnt blame the liberals. we should all be blaming the terrorists.
there is no shortage of people wanting to go to iraq. the problem is theres way too many people that dont understand why someone would go there. if you dont believe in the war or your too afraid, then fine, dont fucking go.
http://www.zogby.com/NEWS/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1075
U.S. Troops in Iraq: 72% Say End War in 2006
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A32521-2003Oct15?language=printer
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notice that study used 944 people. last i checked there are 14000 troops in iraq.
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ask the soldiers in iraq if they want to come home. theyll ask to stay. over 50% of the soldiers there re-enlist after their tour of duty,when they are allowed to go home. republicans shouldnt blame the liberals. we should all be blaming the terrorists.
there is no shortage of people wanting to go to iraq. the problem is theres way too many people that dont understand why someone would go there. if you dont believe in the war or your too afraid, then fine, dont fucking go.
Are you sure about that?
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I'd like to see Bush send his two daughters to fight in Iraq.
Then that would be a draft and not volunteer now wouldn't it???????????
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notice that study used 944 people. last i checked there are 14000 troops in iraq.
Perhaps you are not aware of this... but you can poll 7% of the population group and get a pretty damn good idea of what the people think to a pretty small margin of error.
i'd invite you to take stats 1.
If you want, I can work out the problem for you and provide a further owning, but I'm kinda hungry and there is chicken in the fridge.
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Then that would be a draft and not volunteer now wouldn't it???????????
And what do you think it's going to take to be Team America World Police.... FUCK YEA.... ::)
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the war will most likely go on indefinitely for the rest of our lifetimes, with the amounts and composition of the troops (think private contractors) varying
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ask the soldiers in iraq if they want to come home. theyll ask to stay. over 50% of the soldiers there re-enlist after their tour of duty,when they are allowed to go home. republicans shouldnt blame the liberals. we should all be blaming the terrorists.
there is no shortage of people wanting to go to iraq. the problem is theres way too many people that dont understand why someone would go there. if you dont believe in the war or your too afraid, then fine, dont fucking go.
I agree.
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I agree.
Dude, you're agreeing with kh300's opinion.
Zogby did a poll, and found:
Le Moyne College/Zogby Poll shows just one in five troops want to heed Bush call to stay “as long as they are needed”
It might feel really warm and gooey inside to agree with kh300 that "theyll ask to stay."
But the soldiers actually feel otherwise http://www.zogby.com/NEWS/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1075 and 80% of them ARE NOT down to stay there as long as needed.
No, do you want to believe kh and his guess, or zogby?
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Dude, you're agreeing with kh300's opinion.
Zogby did a poll, and found:
Le Moyne College/Zogby Poll shows just one in five troops want to heed Bush call to stay “as long as they are needed”
It might feel really warm and gooey inside to agree with kh300 that "theyll ask to stay."
But the soldiers actually feel otherwise http://www.zogby.com/NEWS/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1075 and 80% of them ARE NOT down to stay there as long as needed.
No, do you want to believe kh and his guess, or zogby?
We probably have the largest per capita military presence in the country in Hawaii. I know lots of service members and have several friends on the ground in Iraq now. I speak to retired and active duty service members every week. Some are afraid, some want out, but most are proudly serving their country. One of my friends just joined the National Guard. I just wrote a letter of recommendation for another who is trying to join the military. So, yes I agree with kh300's opinion.
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We probably have the largest per capita military presence in the country in Hawaii. I know lots of service members and have several friends on the ground in Iraq now. I speak to retired and active duty service members every week. Some are afraid, some want out, but most are proudly serving their country. One of my friends just joined the National Guard. I just wrote a letter of recommendation for another who is trying to join the military. So, yes I agree with kh300's opinion.
You're letting your interpretation of positive experiences with people from the military who you are friends with - which puts them as more likely to be of similar backgrounds and beliefs. You are not speaking with black 20 year olds in Detroit on leave. You are speaking with middle aged white military lifers who have chosen a life of paradise in hawaii, whether is be a base or home.
Can you see how your highly scientific researching (bullshitting with wealthier white people who live in HI) just might be a tad skewed?
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You're letting your interpretation of positive experiences with people from the military who you are friends with - which puts them as more likely to be of similar backgrounds and beliefs. You are not speaking with black 20 year olds in Detroit on leave. You are speaking with middle aged white military lifers who have chosen a life of paradise in hawaii, whether is be a base or home.
Can you see how your highly scientific researching (bullshitting with wealthier white people who live in HI) just might be a tad skewed?
??? You don't know what the heck you're talking about. I speak to lower enlisted black kids. High ranking Hispanic officers. Low ranking multiracial officers. High ranking white enlisted soldiers. High ranking retired black officers and enlisted soliders. All ethnic groups, all ranks, all branches. I work with white collar professionals, but I interact with people of all ethnic and income backgrounds.
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??? You don't know what the heck you're talking about. I speak to lower enlisted black kids. High ranking Hispanic officers. Low ranking multiracial officers. High ranking white enlisted soldiers. High ranking retired black officers and enlisted soliders. All ethnic groups, all ranks, all branches. I work with white collar professionals, but I interact with people of all ethnic and income backgrounds.
Okay.
Well Zogby does the same, and worked with about 1000 people selected from a proportioned cross-sectional of all groups.
They also allowed for anonymity, something that a proud military man might feel inside but not put on paper.
IMO, for you to place more stock in the 1 or 2 dozen people you've spoken with, than in a scientific poll by a reputable firm like Zogby, really shows that you hear what you want to hear.
It's sad that you probably state what you hear as fact, when there are documented facts available which you avoid. You're an agent of bad information. I am sharing correct information. it's sad, isn't it?
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You're an agent of bad information.
lol! ;D
Yes I state as "fact" what people share with me. ::)
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lol! ;D
Yes I state as "fact" what people share with me. ::)
Then please say "some people I have talked to feel this way".
When you say "I agree with kh that most military men will..." and then state something that aogby showed is not true, you are sharing bad info.
It's cool the military men you speak to enjoy what they do and are willing to spend the next 20 years stationed in the Bush Oil Station: Iraq. But they do not speak for the majority, and saying that they do, if factually incorrect.
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Then please say "some people I have talked to feel this way".
When you say "I agree with kh that most military men will..." and then state something that aogby showed is not true, you are sharing bad info.
It's cool the military men you speak to enjoy what they do and are willing to spend the next 20 years stationed in the Bush Oil Station: Iraq. But they do not speak for the majority, and saying that they do, if factually incorrect.
Quit making up quotes. ::) I will say whatever I want, however I want, so long as I don't offend any of the women on the board. :) If you refuse to read it properly, then that's your problem: "Some are afraid, some want out, but most are proudly serving their country."
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Quit making up quotes. ::) I will say whatever I want, however I want, so long as I don't offend any of the women on the board. :) If you refuse to read it properly, then that's your problem: "Some are afraid, some want out, but most are proudly serving their country."
I am sure they're all proudly serving. But you agreed with kh300's quote that:
ask the soldiers in iraq if they want to come home. theyll ask to stay.
You said:
I agree.
I showed you that scientific polling data shows he is wrong. 20% will ask to stay.
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If the war is such a great idea, Initiate the draft. :)
That's the only possible way to see the true extent to which the American public will support the war in Iraq.
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Bast, for the love of God everytime you post it's just like having John Kerry on here....I'll quote Imus from today "Just keep your mouth shut, go biking, go windsurfing, so sailing..anything, just shut your mouth"!!
What did he do to offend you? ::) Informing everyone about the truth bothers you?
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I am sure they're all proudly serving. But you agreed with kh300's quote that:
ask the soldiers in iraq if they want to come home. theyll ask to stay.
You said:
I showed you that scientific polling data shows he is wrong. 20% will ask to stay.
You're talking to a brick wall. People that want war want it no matter the circumstances. Do you honestly expect real answers from someone that actually supports this war?
At this point supporting the war is just insane, the justifications are ridiculous. Oh, and don't forget that 10 year exit strategy for us to get out of Iraq.