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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Nutrition, Products & Supplements Info => Topic started by: Princess L on November 02, 2006, 06:01:37 PM
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Things to have in your medicine cabinet.
http://www.natural-immunogenics.com/silver_overview.php
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Could you not have posted this 3 days ago?... sniff cough
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do you think that any of that stuff really boosts the immune system?
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do you think that any of that stuff really boosts the immune system?
Yes, actually I do. I don't take any of it on an ongoing basis, but... I'm in an environment daily with a lot of germs, so I'm exposed to a lot. When I feel the first signs of "something", even an irregular sniffle, or if I'm going to travel, or if everyone around me is sick, I dose up on the Airborne and/or Wellness. I never get a full blown illness even when everyone around me is hacking. My husband was sick last week (cold, flu-ish) and I could tell I might catch it (just a little of the big D), so I dosed up and was fine. He on the other hand did not heed my ongoing advice to start dosing RIGHT AWAY at the first signs. I still pumped this stuff into him. I think his overall illness could've ended up being worse and prolonged without it.
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. . . . or you can move to Southern Calfiornia. I haven't had the flu since I moved out here.
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cold FX???
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Alka-Seltzer Cold & Flu medication. Works wonders.
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How to Short-Circuit a Cold -- Maybe
http://www.webmd.com/content/Article/101/106091.htm?pagenumber=3
I use Zicam for a day or two at the first sign of a cold.
I use mucinex, if I'm stuffed up.
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Alka-Seltzer Cold & Flu medication. Works wonders.
Yes, I agree, that product does really help aleviate the symptoms, but I don't think it does anything to get rid of the problem.
How to Short-Circuit a Cold -- Maybe
http://www.webmd.com/content/Article/101/106091.htm?pagenumber=3
I use Zicam for a day or two at the first sign of a cold.
The thing with Zicam is - a pharmacist was telling me - is there seems to be a link between that (in the nose stuff) and potential permanent loss of taste and smell. There's also been some lawsuits in the matter...
http://www.personal-injury.com/practice_areas/Zicam_-_Loss_of_Smell.asp
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I'm in an environment daily with a lot of germs, so I'm exposed to a lot.
getbig?? ;D
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Yes, actually I do. I don't take any of it on an ongoing basis, but... I'm in an environment daily with a lot of germs, so I'm exposed to a lot. When I feel the first signs of "something", even an irregular sniffle, or if I'm going to travel, or if everyone around me is sick, I dose up on the Airborne and/or Wellness. I never get a full blown illness even when everyone around me is hacking. My husband was sick last week (cold, flu-ish) and I could tell I might catch it (just a little of the big D), so I dosed up and was fine. He on the other hand did not heed my ongoing advice to start dosing RIGHT AWAY at the first signs. I still pumped this stuff into him. I think his overall illness could've ended up being worse and prolonged without it.
Best remedy: eat a lot of weird/dirty stuff as kid. Kids need to get dirty, all those hygenic handsoaps are a farce, they undermine the bodie's ability to form a decent immune system. I ignore being sick, it always diminishes to a bit of a cold. Only got real flu 2 times in my life, never had antibiotics...I rule... ;D
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Believe it or not, Glutamine should deffinately be in your list... the effect of glutamine on your immune system is unbelieavable.
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airborne is good, but target has their own version and it much cheaper. echinecia is good too
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Echinacea is actually good? I've always assumed it was an old wives' favourite
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it worked for me. But you have to make sure you get the stronger stuff. SOme of the best was an australian brand i had gotten froma friend.
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Echinacea is actually good? I've always assumed it was an old wives' favourite
yeah a mothers myth. my mom has that stuff and it tastes like hell.
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Echinacea is actually good? I've always assumed it was an old wives' favourite
Believe it or not, Glutamine should deffinately be in your list... the effect of glutamine on your immune system is unbelieavable.
It's in there.
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Natural factors out of canada makes what I believe to be the best echinacea extract out there. It is called Echinamide, works very well. There alcohol free extract tastes pretty good too.
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Best remedy: eat a lot of weird/dirty stuff as kid. Kids need to get dirty, all those hygenic handsoaps are a farce, they undermine the bodie's ability to form a decent immune system. I ignore being sick, it always diminishes to a bit of a cold. Only got real flu 2 times in my life, never had antibiotics...I rule... ;D
I agree. I was outside getting dirty all the time as a kid all the way up to my freshman year in h.s. and I never get sick *knocks on wood table* My kid sister got prescribed tetracycline, I think it was, for acne and about a year later when she went off to college, she got sick and stayed that way. I've never even gotten my hepatitis shots. If you take a lot of antibiotics all the time, I think your body loses it defenses once you get sick and then it's really hard to get better. I don't know if you stop, if your body eventually bounces back or not. I say, if you're going to try to boost your immune system, go herbal, don't go to your doctor for a prescription made in a lab. Last time I got really sick it was cuz I decided to drink the water out of the de-humidifier in the basement during the summer becuz I figured it would save my mom money from the water bill. The very next day and for the following two weeks I was sick as a dog with a hacking cough. Hehe. Never do that, especially from the basement (mold, mildew, dust, etc. in the air). Not even if you put it through a Brita filter first and boil it which I did. Coincidence? ;D
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Selenium...good for the immune system. BB's generally tax their immune systems harder than others with the tearing down and rebuilding of the muscles. I try to take immune boosters all year long.
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Selenium...good for the immune system.
It's also good for thyroid support.
I try to take immune boosters all year long.
I would not recommend doing that. Let your own body defend itself most of the time and use the immune boosters when you're compromised.
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why not just get a flu shot
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Got the airborne and wellness formula....both good.
what's up with the silver???? Has is actuallly been effective for anyone?
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It's also good for thyroid support.
I would not recommend doing that. Let your own body defend itself most of the time and use the immune boosters when you're compromised.
I swear by L-Glutamine as an immune booster (among other things).
I know that not everybody responds the same way to various products, but if I wait until even the earliest signs of sickness to start taking Glut. it does nothing for me. A friend of mine is the exact same way.
On the other hand, I've found from taking it continually for its training benefits that it better helps me as a preventive measure against colds, etc.
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Got the airborne and wellness formula....both good.
what's up with the silver???? Has is actuallly been effective for anyone?
Colloidal(*sp) Silver / Silver Hydosol - I've just recently heard about it, but it's been around forever I guess. Seems to be pretty impressive stuff with many different uses. I know a few people who swear by it (for flu).
Sovereign Silver drops have the highest percentage of active silver at 96% and the smallest particles to make this the most effective silver supplement on the market today. With complete purity that far exceeds all other brands of colloidal silver and a safety level at 10 ppm, this formula may be your most effective tool for maintaining and sustaining your immune defenses in the presence of emerging strains of bacterial, viral and fungal infections as well as for tissue regeneration support. Sovereign Silver is clear and virtually tasteless, unlike other brands where color indicates contaminants, oxidation or additives that do not make for a pure product.
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why not just get a flu shot
True,
getting it every year cause I'm supposed to be a risk ;D
Also a lot of mandarins, oranges, lemons and limes for some extra vitamine C.
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why not just get a flu shot
Here's a few reasons...
Stop Worrying About the Flu
By Dr. Joseph Mercola
Like diehard fans camping out overnight to be the first in line for concert tickets to their favorite performer, people are waiting in long lines hoping to get the flu vaccine. Yes, it's that time of year -- flu season and the media and the government have stirred the public into complete panic mode. Headlines flood newspapers reading, "Vaccine shortage leads public crisis" and on the hour radio broadcasts are bombarding the public with reports that the flu epidemic is coming and there aren't enough vaccines to fight it.
Before You Run Out to Get the Flu Shot ... Do Your Homework
It's becoming increasingly difficult to separate facts from the hype created by the media and government officials. In order to make an informed decision of whether or not to get the flu shot, it is of utmost importance to do your homework. This involves doing thorough research of the safety issues surrounding the flu vaccination and then learning the preventative measures against getting the flu in the first place.
The Target Markets for the Flu Vaccine: Elderly and Children
Generally, the flu vaccine is recommended for people ages 65 and older and to those with serious medical conditions that could quickly worsen as a result of serious complications from the flu. Reports from medical journals widely vary in the effectiveness for the elderly, ranging from 0 to 85 percent.
The CDC reports that 90 percent of deaths from influenza occur among the elderly. These kinds of statistics make it nearly impossible to credit the flu vaccine for prolonging lives in this age group, as 65 percent of all deaths (regardless of the cause) happen among the elderly.
Further, there are potential dangers to the flu vaccine, particularly to the already vulnerable elderly population. Dr. Hugh Fudenberg, one of the world's leading immunogeneticists, states the chances of getting Alzheimer's disease is 10 times higher if an individual has five consecutive shots than if they have one, two or no shots. This is likely due to the thimerosol (a mercury-derived preservative) and aluminum content of the vaccine.
Recommendations to give flu vaccinations to children were adopted on March 1, 2003. These recommendations include vaccinating children between 2 and 18 years who live in households containing children younger than 2 years of age. The most common type of flu vaccine given to children is called Fluzone, with each dose containing 25 ug of mercury. CDC recommendations include administering the flu vaccine to children beginning at six months of age and then on an annual basis, for the rest of their lives.
Does the Flu Vaccine Really Work?
The flu vaccine can actually weaken the immune system and make you more predisposed to the illness.
The flu vaccine, whether in the shot or nasal form, is worthless at best and should be avoided. Not only are they loaded with toxic chemicals including mercury and aluminum, but many people come down with the flu shortly after receiving the shot. This is because it actually weakens the immune system, making the person more predisposed to the illness.
By Dr Sherri Tenpenny
www.nmaseminars.com
News reports have been flooding us with articles warning that the impending flu season may be the worst in years. Even though it is difficult to separate the facts from the hype, a close evaluation of the flu vaccine will reveal that serious questions must be raised about the recommendations that are routinely touted, namely high efficacy with little risk. Anyone considering a flu shot should become informed about the substances coming through that needle, and should be determined to investigate the safety and efficacy issues that are still unresolved.
The vaccine virus
Each year, a new vaccine is developed that contains three different viruses (one influenza B and two influenza A strains). CDC officials select the new viruses based on which viruses were prevalent during the flu season in China and Australia the previous year. The CDC admits that the viruses selected for the new vaccine are chosen on the basis of an “educated guess.”
What’s in a flu shot?
The influenza virus is grown in “specific pathogen-free” (SPF) eggs. Eggs are tested for a variety of agents—usually between 23 and 31—to confirm the absence of those specific pathogens. Laboratories limit the number of agents that are screened due to the shear abundance of potential viruses and/or bacteria to choose from. In addition, screening for every potential agent would be cost prohibitive. If none of the tested agents are detected, the vaccine is reported as “pathogen free.”
However, it should be understood that there is a distinct difference between “pathogen free” and “specific pathogen-free.” In its July 1996 report, the Institute of Medicine acknowledged that “although it is not possible to produce a completely uncontaminated animal, it is possible to produce an animal [or egg] certified to be free of specific pathogens.” Viruses that are harmless to their animal host, however, may be potentially harmful to humans.
During the manufacturing process, antibiotics (neomycin, polymyxin B and gentamicin) are added to eliminate stray bacteria found in the mixture. The final solution can contain the following additives in any combination: Triton X-100 (a detergent); polysorbate 80 (a potential carcinogen); gelatin; formaldehyde; and residual egg proteins. In addition, many of the influenza vaccines still contain thimerosal as a preservative. Thimerosal (mercury) is being investigated for its link to brain injury and autoimmune disease.
Does the flu shot protect?
There are no guarantees that the influenza viruses selected for the vaccine will be the identical strains circulating during a given flu season. In fact, it has recently been announced that this year's flu vaccine does not include the strain that is being reported by doctors in the community called the “A Fujian” strain. Outbreaks have been reported in Texas, Colorado and elsewhere[iv] that involve strains that do not match the current flu vaccine. CDC tests have confirmed that more than 80 per cent of the 55 strains of influenza virus isolated thus far are the A Fujian strain. Even so, the CDC still maintains that the current vaccine could provide cross-protection against the new variant, but the fact is, no one knows for sure.
Moreover, the majority of illnesses characterized by fever, fatigue, cough and aching muscles are not caused by the influenza virus. Non-influenza viruses (e.g., rhinoviruses respiratory syncytial virus [RSV], adenoviruses, and parainfluenza viruses) can cause symptoms referred to influenza-like illnesses (ILI). Certain bacteria, such as Legionella spp., Chlamydia pneumoniae, Mycoplasma pneumoniae, and Streptococcus pneumoniae, have been documented as the causes of ILI.
Notably, these microbes are not part of the flu vaccine. Unless an organism’s antigen is contained within the vaccine, there is no protection conferred by the vaccine. It is estimated that most adults will average 1-3 episodes of ILI, and most children will average 3-6 episodes. The CDC also admits that “many persons who have been vaccinated against influenza can still get the flu”
A serious concern: Alzheimer’s Disesase
Hugh Fudenberg, MD, an immunogeneticist and biologist with nearly 850 papers published in peer review journals, has reported that if an individual had five consecutive flu shots between 1970 and 1980 (the years studied), his/her chances of getting Alzheimer's Disease is ten times higher than if they had zero, one, or two shots.
Dr. Boyd Haley, Professor and Chair of the Department of Chemistry at the University of Kentucky, Lexington has done extensive research in the area of mercury toxicity and the brain. Haley’s research has established a likely connection between mercury toxicity and Alzheimer’s disease. In a paper published in collaboration with researchers at University of Calgary, Haley stated that “seven of the characteristic markers that we look for to distinguish Alzheimer's disease can be produced in normal brain tissues, or cultures of neurons, by the addition of extremely low levels of mercury.”
Does this prove that the mercury contained in the influenza shot can be directly linked to Alzheimer’s? No, absolutely not. But further research in this area is critically needed because the absence of proof is not the “proof of absence.”
Flu vaccine now for children
The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) adopted a resolution effective March 1, 2003 that expanded the use of the influenza vaccine to include children aged 6-23 months. The recommendations also included vaccinating those aged 2 to 18 years who live in households containing children younger than 2 years of age.[xi]
The flu vaccine most commonly given to children is Fluzone>, a trivalent vaccine grown in chicken eggs. Harvested with formaldehyde and containing the recommended ratio of 15 ug of each of the three prototype viral strains, each dose of Fluzone> also contains 25 ug of mercury.[xii] The new CDC recommendations include giving the influenza vaccine to children beginning at six months of age and then annually, for the rest of their lives. Children less than age 9 receiving their first flu shot, two doses of vaccine are recommended, with a minimum interval of one month between the two doses. However, the CDC does not provide a direct reference to substantiate this recommendation.
On June 17, 2003, the FDA approved an intranasal influenza vaccine for use in healthy persons aged 5–49 years. Flumist> is a live-virus vaccine that can cause a litany of problems. (for further information on Dangers of FluMist)
Alternatives?
If you choose not to receive the flu shot, have a discussion with your doctor regarding other options. However, some simple and possibly quite effective things you can do for yourself to prevent the flu include: 1) avoid white sugar; 2) exercise regularly; 3) get adequate sleep; 4) eat a healthy diet, omitting trans-fats; 5) drink plenty of purified water daily and 6) wash your hands. A common way people contract viral illnesses is by rubbing their nose or their eyes after their hands have been contaminated with a virus. The CDC states, “the most important thing you can do to keep from getting sick is to wash your hands.”
We are so used to taking medications—for prevention and treatment—that it is difficult to comprehend that these modest recommendations are really the most powerful ways to minimize the likelihood of getting the flu.
Making the decision
You may decide to consult a physician who is schooled in alternative medicine to assess a variety of options for you and your family. What is most important, in the end, is to become as informed as possible regarding your options for keeping healthy and avoiding the flu.
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That document is full of "can, could, might and maybe's" when reality of the fact is, its available and why not take it given the chance. It seems over the course of the winter i get sick alot, probly 10 different times. Ill get sick, get over it then 2 weeks later sick again. This is the first time ive received the shot and ive been fine so far.
You can list con's all you want i could list the same about of pro's that would contain the same "can, could, might and maybe's"
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a syringe is always the way to go. <--- I know of a few people who live by that.
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The flu vaccine can actually weaken the immune system and make you more predisposed to the illness.
It's true that the vaccine weakens you,
but it doesn't make you ill, only if you were already weak.
If that's the case you have to wait a couple of days or longer before getting the shot,
that's being communicated on the invitation.
Personally the vaccine makes sure that I don't get stuck to bed if I'm ill. Maybe a cold or a light fever during the winter, but that's all (knock, knock). And everybody can get the shot, if you belong to the riskgroup it's insured, otherwise you have to pay 5 euro's (about 6 dollars).
A lot of money? Don't think so,
Supp or medicines costs more.
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That document is full of "can, could, might and maybe's" when reality of the fact is, its available and why not take it given the chance. It seems over the course of the winter i get sick alot, probly 10 different times. Ill get sick, get over it then 2 weeks later sick again. This is the first time ive received the shot and ive been fine so far.
You can list con's all you want i could list the same about of pro's that would contain the same "can, could, might and maybe's"
Maybe you should practice the items highlighted in red and maybe you wouldn't get sick so much.
I don't think I've been sick that much in my entire life :o
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Here's a few reasons...
Stop Worrying About the Flu
By Dr. Joseph Mercola
The flu vaccine, whether in the shot or nasal form, is worthless at best and should be avoided.
...many people come down with the flu shortly after receiving the shot. This is because it actually weakens the immune system, making the person more predisposed to the illness.
The CDC reports that 90 percent of deaths from influenza occur among the elderly.
Further, there are potential dangers to the flu vaccine, particularly to the already vulnerable elderly population.
True.
I remember my Grandmother getting flu shots while in her 70’s. She got her annual vaccinations religiously.
She usually got sick following the vacc. My Dad finally convinced her that it was the shots making her ill. So she stopped getting vaccinated for about 6 or 7 years.
SHE DIDN’T GET THE FLU ONCE during that time.
Then came the recent mass flu scare/hysteria, courtesy of our trusty, unbiased, reliable, just-the-facts MEDIA. ::)
Ron, we really need a smiley guy that gestures the universal sign for masturbation.
So, throwing caution (or memory) to the wind, there was Grandma in line once again to get her shot.
Fortunately, they ran out of vaccine long before Grandma ever got to the front of the line.
Several more attempts followed, but she never did get vaccinated that flu season.
Anyway, Grandma was just fine throughout the winter until she left us this past April.
She was 85.
And no, it wasn’t from the flu.
Although I sometimes wonder, had she contracted the flu in her increasingly, age induced weakened state, if her remaining time with us would have been cut even shorter.
I’m glad it wasn’t.
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Thanx to "Uncle-Sam" I got a flu shot, took some echincea, garlic, vitamin C, and I am doing great this flu season. Also being stationed here in the Middle-East helps ??? ???
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Thanx to "Uncle-Sam" I got a flu shot, took some echincea, garlic, vitamin C, and I am doing great this flu season. Also being stationed here in the Middle-East helps ??? ???
Yah, I spoze you have a lot more important things to worry about :-[
Stay safe.
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i carry hand sanitizer with me in the gym around this time of year exactly for this reason, there are a lot of nasty pieces of shit in gyms these days.
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Maybe you should practice the items highlighted in red and maybe you wouldn't get sick so much.
I don't think I've been sick that much in my entire life :o
do i sense some hostility?
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do i sense some hostility?
Not at all, although, this is a Nutrition, Products & Supplements board ;)
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The thing with Zicam is - a pharmacist was telling me - is there seems to be a link between that (in the nose stuff) and potential permanent loss of taste and smell. There's also been some lawsuits in the matter...
Yeah, I've been reading about the nasal spray side effects and the lawsuits for years, but it is not yet known whether this is true or just a bunch of crooks trying to make a quick buck by suing the company that makes Zicam. The product is still on the shelves. I've never used the nasal spray anyway. I've been using the oral mist since 2002 and I have not experienced any side effects. Then again, I only use it at the first sign of a cold and I rarely get colds. So I have not used it often enough to know for sure. What's true is that Zicam definitely works.
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Here's a few reasons...
This is why I've never had the flu shot. I've never had the flu either.