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Title: SARCEV sideswiped by ESPN.COM...
Post by: the shadow on November 03, 2006, 01:46:10 AM
what the hell.....

http://www.flexonline.com/news/167


Milos Sarcev is itching to get back onto a bodybuilding stage to duke it out with fellow iron pumpers, and he’s more than ready to do battle (verbally) with a certain keyboard puncher.

In an ESPN.com article titled “Bodybuilders, Vegas and Victor Conte . . . oh my!” published October 4, 2006, reporter Mike Fish chronicles his walk through the 2006 Olympia Expo. Keeping with the status quo of mainstream sports writers who cover bodybuilding, he adopts a haughty and morally righteous tone as he describes the expo attendees and their motives.

“It’s late now,” he writes, “and the friends bound by steroids and a desire to turn a buck amble out of a convention hall that for this weekend is a shrine to the lucrative supplement industry.”

Fish devotes a portion of the article to a conversation he had with Sarcev, in which the former and future competitor asserts that steroids are not worthy of the kind of demonization government officials seem to think they warrant.

“The government is feeding the media wrong information, that anabolic steroids are destructive drugs,” Sarcev told Fish. “Anabolic is a word; it means ‘constructive.’ Not ‘destructive.’”

Sarcev doesn’t contend he was misquoted in the piece, but he does bristle over Fish’s labeling of him as a “self-described steroid expert” and is disappointed Fish didn’t make good on his word to let him see the story before sending it for publication. “I had him sign a piece of paper that said he would show it to me for my approval,” Sarcev says. “But I never saw the story until it came out [online].”

Fish follows Sarcev’s statements with a prejudiced caveat that immediately reveals the reporter’s bias: “Many in the medical community, of course, take issue with Sarcev’s characterization of the benevolence of steroids. . . ” he writes. Although it may be sound journalism to state that some in the medical community may question the safety of steroid use by healthy individuals, adding the phrase “of course” turns the piece into an editorial — one man’s pointed views on a multifaceted subject. It is just another example of the hit-and-run approach of the mainstream media as they take yet another slanted swipe at the sport.
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Post by: DragonsBreath on November 03, 2006, 02:20:45 AM
 ::)
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Post by: rockyfortune on November 03, 2006, 04:24:55 AM
Who cares...Milos is a stupid f**k to think that someone is going to clear the story with him before he submits it...then again..milos is definitely a stupid f**k for making a statement like he did about steroids to someone other than the ham-heads writing for the  muscle magazines.
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Post by: SteelePegasus on November 03, 2006, 05:26:27 AM
he just needs to focus on making his working drink 564% more effective than cell tech
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Post by: HUGEPECS on November 03, 2006, 05:55:51 AM
most in the mainstream media are fcuking idiots when it comes to performance enhancing drugs. Those were the same idiots who said that ANDRO was pure steroids...lol
Title: Re: SARCEV sideswiped by ESPN.COM...
Post by: Special Ed on November 03, 2006, 07:13:59 AM
If I said it once, I'll say it a hundred times:

If you have used steroids or currently use steroids or assist others in obtaining steroids or assist others in using steroids, your response to any microphone put in your face should always be: 

NO COMMENT

Special "$300/Hour" Ed
Title: Re: SARCEV sideswiped by ESPN.COM...
Post by: the shadow on November 03, 2006, 09:24:47 AM
If I said it once, I'll say it a hundred times:

If you have used steroids or currently use steroids or assist others in obtaining steroids or assist others in using steroids, your response to any microphone put in your face should always be: 

NO COMMENT

Special "$300/Hour" Ed
although most of your special ed bullshit posts are retarded but this post of yours makes a alot of sense..good post dude..
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Post by: Figo on November 03, 2006, 09:38:17 AM
Investigative journalism ,coverage of fields unknown and subject to taboo, especially when conducted by ignorant morons who wish they were covering a more glamorous event of their liking, instead of handed  the assignment of writing-up on the "freaks", tends to be biased, misquoted and often agressive and vindictive as well as full of personal negative views.

As such, this small sub-culture we subscribe to, will continue to be bashed, and a target for idiot reporters.
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Post by: Tre on November 03, 2006, 10:51:20 AM
If you have used steroids...your response to any microphone put in your face should always be: 

NO COMMENT

Not really.  Saying, "Hey, I did something x years ago" is no big deal. 

Americans love a good rehab story.
Title: Re: SARCEV sideswiped by ESPN.COM...
Post by: Special Ed on November 03, 2006, 11:09:50 AM
Not really.  Saying, "Hey, I did something x years ago" is no big deal. 
Trust me, when you have muscles like Milos, have already been arrested and indicted and sentenced, and are probably still under surveillance and investigation, NO COMMENT is definitely the way to go.

Special "Reasonable Idiots May Disagree" Ed
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Post by: SteelePegasus on November 03, 2006, 12:07:46 PM
If I said it once, I'll say it a hundred times:

If you have used steroids or currently use steroids or assist others in obtaining steroids or assist others in using steroids, your response to any microphone put in your face should always be: 

NO COMMENT

Special "$300/Hour" Ed


if the FBI has kicked down your door and investigated you as a distributor of steroids *allegedly*,

your response to any microphone put in your face should always be: 

"NO COMMENT, NO COMMENT, I was away on a business at the time"
Title: Re: SARCEV sideswiped by ESPN.COM...
Post by: McFarland on November 03, 2006, 12:08:24 PM
Investigative journalism ,coverage of fields unknown and subject to taboo, especially when conducted by ignorant morons who wish they were covering a more glamorous event of their liking, instead of handed  the assignment of writing-up on the "freaks", tends to be biased, misquoted and often agressive and vindictive as well as full of personal negative views.

As such, this small sub-culture we subscribe to, will continue to be bashed, and a target for idiot reporters.

Good point there.  
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Post by: The True Adonis on November 03, 2006, 12:13:54 PM
Good Reporting for exposing the pathetic freak show that is has become.

Milos is no expert and has no medical training or license to practice as a physician.


In fact, he almost killed himself with injecting chemicals such as synthol.  Clearly he uses reckless abandonment in these matters.

Endocrinologists know better than to prescribe these drugs to an idiot who just wants a bigger bicep.

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Post by: arce377 on November 03, 2006, 12:47:59 PM
WTF????!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: SARCEV sideswiped by ESPN.COM...
Post by: Figo on November 03, 2006, 12:54:20 PM
Good Reporting for exposing the pathetic freak show that is has become.

Milos is no expert and has no medical training or license to practice as a physician.
In fact, he almost killed himself with injecting chemicals such as synthol.  Clearly he uses reckless abandonment in these matters.

Endocrinologists know better than to prescribe these drugs to an idiot who just wants a bigger bicep.



Does Milos Sarcev practice as a physician or claim to have extensive certified medical experience or knowledge?

I thought he was a contest-prep/diet advisor/trainer, aka, guru?
Title: Re: SARCEV sideswiped by ESPN.COM...
Post by: arce377 on November 03, 2006, 12:59:32 PM
WHY IS IT GONE??!!
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Post by: SteelePegasus on November 03, 2006, 01:00:02 PM
Does Milos Sarcev practice as a physician or claim to have extensive certified medical experience or knowledge?

I thought he was a contest-prep/diet advisor/trainer, aka, guru?

that dumb fuck TA talk about nutrition, diet and exercise yet he has no degree, no formal training and no experience.

the dumb fuck lost some weight and now he claims to be an expert.


dude, I will give DA $50 cash on the spot after he date rapes you with his fists
Title: !
Post by: Figo on November 03, 2006, 01:07:06 PM
ouch!
Title: Re: SARCEV sideswiped by ESPN.COM...
Post by: arce377 on November 03, 2006, 01:08:11 PM
 He does...from the former Yugoslavia
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Post by: Miss Karen on November 03, 2006, 03:42:10 PM
Milos has done nothing wrong.If he had not of helped Mustafa he would now be dead.At least the guy stuck around to help a guy when he was down.
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Post by: efirkey on November 03, 2006, 04:06:55 PM
I just read the ESPN article and Sarcev didn't say anything other than athletes on steroids are superior...duh, and that performance drugs aren't going anywhere
Title: Re: SARCEV sideswiped by ESPN.COM...
Post by: figgs on November 03, 2006, 04:24:45 PM
Milos, good luck with trying to convince the media that steroids are good for you.
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Post by: siouxcountry on November 03, 2006, 07:29:24 PM
Mike Fish's article at ESPN.com...

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2612786 (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2612786)
Title: Re: SARCEV sideswiped by ESPN.COM...
Post by: TheEgoCrusher on November 03, 2006, 09:23:17 PM
Bodybuilding and it's chance of having ANY MAINSTREAM CONVERAGE went by the wayside in the early-90's.  The I.F.B.B. allowed bodybuilding to turn into a contest to see who has the best pharmacist. 

Did any of you ever stop to think that maybe bodybuilding has turned into something it was never intended to be?  People talk about how "safe" steroid usage is all the time.  Did you all ever stop to think about how ridiculous bodybuilding is right now?  Just because it exists in it's current state doesn't mean it's sane.
Title: Re: SARCEV sideswiped by ESPN.COM...
Post by: Cleanest Natural on November 04, 2006, 02:05:39 AM
ignorance is bliss
Title: Re: SARCEV sideswiped by ESPN.COM...
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on November 04, 2006, 07:34:44 AM
I am in Sacramento (my wife is competing) so I can't respond to this - at the moment...But I will...

Title: Re: SARCEV sideswiped by ESPN.COM...
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 04, 2006, 07:39:53 AM
mainstream coverage of bodybuilding? hahahahaha, why in the hell would anybody want that? 
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Post by: the shadow on November 04, 2006, 07:55:14 AM
so the article also states that you want to make a comeback milos..is that true?
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Post by: Earl1972 on November 04, 2006, 09:08:53 AM
mainstream coverage of bodybuilding? hahahahaha, why in the hell would anybody want that? 

exactly

the fact that bodybuilding is a cult sport is what makes it cool 8)

E
Title: Re: SARCEV sideswiped by ESPN.COM...
Post by: the shadow on November 04, 2006, 09:10:09 AM
exactly

the fact that bodybuilding is a cult sport is what makes it cool 8)

E
correct....
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Post by: Earl1972 on November 04, 2006, 09:14:56 AM
i don't want bodybuilding to end up like mma

every geek who doesn't even know what a slight punch to the nose feels like is wearing a "tapout" shirt these days ::)

E


Title: Re: SARCEV sideswiped by ESPN.COM...
Post by: the shadow on November 04, 2006, 09:19:21 AM
i don't want bodybuilding to end up like mma

every geek who doesn't even know what a slight punch to the nose feels like is wearing a "tapout" shirt these days ::)

E



ahahahahahhaahah....hahahhaha i can't stop laughing
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Post by: Necrosis on November 04, 2006, 11:29:40 AM
i hate to say it but milos has no basis to talk about the effects of hormones in human subjects. he is not a doctor or has he done research, however, he is obviously well informed. anabolics build things yes, but kill your liver, increase your chances of having metabolic syndrome, heart disease, immunological malfunction etc. to state that because the build muscle and are anabolic is a witless statement and shows ignorance. bigger drug problems exsist but saying steriods and its derivatives are not dangerous and should not be taken is plain ignorance. i agree with TA. the medical literature is replete with data about the ill effects of steriods on human health markers, i suggest milos read some pubmed before he makes blanket statements like anabolic means build not destroy, hahah ok they kill liver cells clearly by tests indicative of enzyme amount.
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Post by: Necrosis on November 04, 2006, 11:31:47 AM
the medical community still doesnt even have a good grasp on long term effects of hormones, and no quality longitudinal studies have been accomplished.
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Post by: Necrosis on November 04, 2006, 01:09:58 PM
i agree that bigger drug promblems exsist but steriods are an issue an pose many health problems. so does being a fat ass ;)
Title: Re: SARCEV sideswiped by ESPN.COM...
Post by: Earl1972 on November 05, 2006, 08:02:44 AM
Are you worried that if bodybuilding gets mainstream, every pencil-neck geek will be dressing like Peter Pan?

i don't think that guy looks any dumber than the geeks I see wearing baggy pants and their hat tilted to the side

E
Title: Re: SARCEV sideswiped by ESPN.COM...
Post by: arce377 on November 11, 2006, 02:19:11 PM
Milos knows his shit. Bottom line.
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Post by: the shadow on November 12, 2006, 11:03:03 AM
I am in Sacramento (my wife is competing) so I can't respond to this - at the moment...But I will...


hey milos you have not responded on this incident yet?????still waiting