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is to look at christians as a bar instead of IMPERFECT humans that are dealing and struggling with the same issues and problems as them. We just deal with our problems with a smile finding comfort in knowing that we serve a God that loves us and and cares for us.
Being a Christian does not guarantee we wouldn't see hardships, face sickness, lose loved ones but it gurantee us JOY that nothing or no one of this world can provide.
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is to look at christians as a bar instead of IMPERFECT humans that are dealing and struggling with the same issues and problems as them. We just deal with our problems with a smile finding comfort in knowing that we serve a God that loves us and and cares for us.
Being a Christian does not guarantee we wouldn't see hardships, face sickness, lose loved ones but it gurantee us JOY that nothing or no one of this world can provide.
Funny how you always post this under one of your (several) user-names whenever a public Christian leader is being exposed in the news.
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huh. this is and always been my only user name
the media is the least of my worries, i would just like to get people to look at christ and not his followers. one of his best friends that was with him for 3 years denied him 3 times, what would people like myself and other christians do 2000 years later?
Believing in the christian dogma is not logical.
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for your souls sake i hope you are comforted and comfortable with your belief system.
Yes. That's all that matters.
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beleif in atheism is not logical, christians have some kinks for sure though, i believe in a god but not the christian one, at least im not about to accept that god wants me to worship him insted of doing good in the world and priests are raping kids turns me away also. god exsists i agree, i guess im similar to OZMO.
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you people should listen to yourselves from time to time
do you even realise how stupid you sound?
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Bigger business:
dude u need a hug, it don't seem like you were huged enough as a kid. there is a lot of anger and resentment in your heart towards christians.
you are an atheist but you have a pic of an upside down cross which is used as a symbol of the existence of the devil who was created by this God you do not believe exist.
i'm an athiest also...but instead of a hug ya got some cheap a-bombs bro?
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i'm an athiest also...but instead of a hug ya got some cheap a-bombs bro?
An athiest that believe muhammad the manwhore was a prophet? How can this be? ???
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Toxic:
a bombs are 1 for 3 dollars in los angeles, but i'd rather get you a J bomb(this is really corny) j bombs = Jesus ;D :)
did you know he died for you?
You need math equations in your life. You should become a math professor.
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i thought our biggest mistake was thinking :D
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Bigger business:
dude u need a hug, it don't seem like you were huged enough as a kid. there is a lot of anger and resentment in your heart towards christians.
I dont need a hug...that's christians that need that re-assurement crap. I make my own way, serving the church of Bigger Business
you are an atheist but you have a pic of an upside down cross which is used as a symbol of the existence of the devil who was created by this God you do not believe exist.
I'm not an athiest. (fofuxache!)
as for the avatar, its just a pretty blue shape to me, behold its majesty :D
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as for the avatar, its just a pretty blue shape to me,
BB, you know that I love you but are you really sure about that? This would indicate some kind of feeling though ???
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Quote from: bmacsys on November 08, 2006, 18:31:28
Dude, seriously. You should get rid of that upside down cross avatar. Thats not right.
the way you feel about that
is the way I feel about the one thats the other way up
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religious symbols are everywhere. I drive down the street...jesus, turn on the radio, jesus, read a bumper sticker...jesus, television...jesus.
its not right...our government is now going to be spending tax payer money, without a referendum on placing pastors in schools (I thought these dudes worked free)
my lil avatar gives me peace of mind
and yeah i think it looks sweet
I love you too x
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religious symbols are everywhere. I drive down the street...jesus, turn on the radio, jesus, read a bumper sticker...jesus, television...jesus.
its not right...our government is now going to be spending tax payer money, without a referendum on placing pastors in schools (I thought these dudes worked free)
my lil avatar gives me peace of mind
and yeah i think it looks sweet
I love you too x
we are a christian nation founded on christian beliefs by christian men who loved Jesus. get over it. we would not be the nation we are now without those God-fearing men. it seems all i hear when i turn on the news or radio is someone trying to take our christian values out of everything. we can't say merry christmas, no pledge of allegience, no ten commandments, i could go on.
go to a muslim nation and try to stop their prayers they have 5 times a day and say "it offends you." go on, i dare you. they'll kill you by the end of the day.
we should have pastors in schools. you see whats happening in our schools, don't you? shootings every other week, teachers molesting students. you see what happens when prayer is removed.
When God is told he is not wanted in our nation, schools, government, society, He will leave.
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we are a christian nation founded on christian beliefs by christian men who loved Jesus. get over it. we would not be the nation we are now without those God-fearing men. it seems all i hear when i turn on the news or radio is someone trying to take our christian values out of everything. we can't say merry christmas, no pledge of allegience, no ten commandments, i could go on.
go to a muslim nation and try to stop their prayers they have 5 times a day and say "it offends you." go on, i dare you. they'll kill you by the end of the day.
we should have pastors in schools. you see whats happening in our schools, don't you? shootings every other week, teachers molesting students. you see what happens when prayer is removed.
When God is told he is not wanted in our nation, schools, government, society, He will leave.
The church is as strong/influential if not more now as it's ever been
your post supports mine mouse
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The church is as strong/influential if not more now as it's ever been
your post supports mine mouse
what church??
that is a very broad statement.
if you mean christianity, i'll have to disagree. everywhere i look it's being attacked.
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christianity is using 'terrorism' as a promotional tool, its a business
war is good for christianity
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christianity is using 'terrorism' as a promotional tool, its a business
war is good for christianity
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you are saying terroism doesn't exist??
you are saying christians want war??
am i reading you correctly??
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you are saying terroism doesn't exist??
you are saying christians want war??
am i reading you correctly??
terrorism is a verb
war is good for business
maybe now?
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terrorism is a verb
war is good for business
maybe now?
what business is that??
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getting people into church...
come on man, I'm not writing in riddles
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big,
everytime i say i am a christian i have to wonder if i just offended someone, is that fair to christians.
If youre wearing a tucked in pink polo and a pair of check slacks with your hair combed flat, they probably already figured it out. ;)
If you feel its important to tell people that youre a christian then thats the chance you take I guess. I dont understand the whole tell the world thing though...dont you follow christianity for yourself and yourself alone?
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getting people into church...
come on man, I'm not writing in riddles
you beat the system.
christians want innocent people to die all over the world in the name of muhammed so a few extra pews can be filled in churches all across america on sunday. how dare they! ;)
what will the church do next when that gets out?? ::)
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you beat the system.
christians want innocent people to die all over the world in the name of muhammed so a few extra pews can be filled in churches all across america on sunday. how dare they! ;)
what will the church do next when that gets out?? ::)
I cant tell if youre using sarcasm here
tell me (christian) business isnt better when we're at war mouse
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I cant tell if youre using sarcasm here
tell me (christian) business isnt better when we're at war mouse
just a little sarcasm. nothing personal! ;D
i don't understand what you mean by christian buisness. christianity is not a business. although some church leaders use it like one.
i will agree that after 9/11 church attendance rose for a short time because people were searching for answers. wondering why. now that nothing has happened since then over here people think everythings hunky dory and they don't need God until another group of terroists kills 3000 americans. then they will turn to God again. human nature i guess but it shouldn't be that way.
to turn it around, i'm sure just as many people turned completly away from God after the attacks. hating Him for allowing something so evil to happen to them. even i questioned why God allowed it. but we will never understand God's will.
christianity business is better since we are at war??
i'll have to disagree.
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big,
most people assume when they see a 6'2" 295 pound black dude that i've been in jail not much of them will assume that i am a christian so when i do speak and say certain things that are offensive to other people they ask why and i let them know that i do not speak a certain way beacause i am a christian. most people respect that then others don't.
thats cool man. my thing is when people advertise the fact...im sure you know a few, not the pushy ones trying to press their faith onto non christians but the ones that dont shut about how awesome jesus is etc.
i could care less what people are into to be honest, i just question motives.
when someone has a hobby, like moto X or surfing, they wear the clothes, talk the lingo etc. is christianity a hobby?
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i've heard it said time and time again that when people try to force anything onto someone else is that they are really trying to convince themselves. my duty as a christian is not to force christ onto you i have to live my life christlike and if you can see it hopefully you will follow suit if not that is your decision. if i have to sit and force you to listen to what Jesus that means i am livng by example.
Well said. I completely agree.
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i've heard it said time and time again that when people try to force anything onto someone else is that they are really trying to convince themselves. my duty as a christian is not to force christ onto you i have to live my life christlike and if you can see it hopefully you will follow suit if not that is your decision. if i have to sit and force you to listen to what Jesus that means i am livng by example.
well said
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Bigger business:
dude u need a hug, it don't seem like you were huged enough as a kid. there is a lot of anger and resentment in your heart towards christians.
you are an atheist but you have a pic of an upside down cross which is used as a symbol of the existence of the devil who was created by this God you do not believe exist.
I think the upside down cross is meant to mock christianity and religion in general.
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I think the upside down cross is meant to mock christianity and religion in general.
quite possibly, yes !
christians demand, expect and project endlessly, but refuse to ever be held accountable.
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held accountable for what?
"It is/was gods will" and "I have sinned, but I repent" are these peoples golden ticket to do whatever they want. How THEY interpret gods word in todays age is what matters, not what the written word said (they just didn't understand life in the 21st century back then did they?). They walk in between those doors on Sunday, not to live selflessly and help others, but to ensure their own self-absorbed continuation.
It's not that I hate christianity, it is just a thought process to help the self-absorbed deal with their own mortality. I just do not have the stomach for the self-professed "christians".
I HAVE YET TO COME ACROSS ONE
I do remember reading a story about a life-long Ford worker who made good money his whole life.
Never married or had children, he lived in a 1 room rental, walked to work and gave every penny above what he spent on food and shelter to charity to help others less fortunate.
I DO BELIEVE THIS IS SOMEONE WHO HAD A GRASP ABOUT WHAT CHRISTIANITY STANDS FOR AND MAY ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN A TRUE CHRISTIAN PERSON.
Most are usually deciding what options they want to put on their SUV, how much it will cost to upgrade their bathrooms, should they go plasma or LCD and tell themselves that sex outside of procreation was really just a mis-interpretation of the written word and will contradict scripture with other scripture. So much time to spend on the flaws of his "word".
I think in todays world, "christians" have basically boiled themselves down to that if they don't fuck anyone over with hostile intent, they deserve salvation.
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"It is/was gods will" and "I have sinned, but I repent" are these peoples golden ticket to do whatever they want. How THEY interpret gods word in todays age is what matters, not what the written word said (they just didn't understand life in the 21st century back then did they?). They walk in between those doors on Sunday, not to live selflessly and help others, but to ensure their own self-absorbed continuation.
It's not that I hate christianity, it is just a thought process to help the self-absorbed deal with their own mortality. I just do not have the stomach for the self-professed "christians".
I HAVE YET TO COME ACROSS ONE
I do remember reading a story about a life-long Ford worker who made good money his whole life.
Never married or had children, he lived in a 1 room rental, walked to work and gave every penny above what he spent on food and shelter to charity to help others less fortunate.
I DO BELIEVE THIS IS SOMEONE WHO HAD A GRASP ABOUT WHAT CHRISTIANITY STANDS FOR AND MAY ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN A TRUE CHRISTIAN PERSON.
Most are usually deciding what options they want to put on their SUV, how much it will cost to upgrade their bathrooms, should they go plasma or LCD and tell themselves that sex outside of procreation was really just a mis-interpretation of the written word and will contradict scripture with other scripture. So much time to spend on the flaws of his "word".
I think in todays world, "christians" have basically boiled themselves down to that if they don't f**k anyone over with hostile intent, they deserve salvation.
Fact is christains believe that so long as they accept Jesus as their savior they can sin endlessly and they will still go to heaven.
So, in other words christains have zero accountability for their actions and some are fond of condeming others for not being a christiain and most truely believe that the other 5 billion on earth will go to hell becuase it's impossible to live without sinning and only a sinless man can go to heaven unless he has accepted christ's sacrafice.
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Fact is christains believe that so long as they accept Jesus as their savior they can sin endlessly and they will still go to heaven. So, in other words christains have zero accountability for their actions
Yes, 99.9% of self-proclaimed "christians" are quite pathetic.
I say self-proclaimed, because NO ONE ELSE would label these self-absorbed excuses a christian. It is their own self-defined moniker.
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I'm Bastian. That's my religion.
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tell themselves that sex outside of procreation was really just a mis-interpretation of the written word and will contradict scripture with other scripture.
Do you have a scripture reference for this? ???
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Do you have a scripture reference for this? ???
There's a ton, but again, it depends on who is interpreting it. Can we at least agree that unless you are doing it missionary with your husband, you are being sodomized?
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"It is/was gods will" and "I have sinned, but I repent" are these peoples golden ticket to do whatever they want. How THEY interpret gods word in todays age is what matters, not what the written word said (they just didn't understand life in the 21st century back then did they?). They walk in between those doors on Sunday, not to live selflessly and help others, but to ensure their own self-absorbed continuation.
It's not that I hate christianity, it is just a thought process to help the self-absorbed deal with their own mortality. I just do not have the stomach for the self-professed "christians".
I HAVE YET TO COME ACROSS ONE
I do remember reading a story about a life-long Ford worker who made good money his whole life.
Never married or had children, he lived in a 1 room rental, walked to work and gave every penny above what he spent on food and shelter to charity to help others less fortunate.
I DO BELIEVE THIS IS SOMEONE WHO HAD A GRASP ABOUT WHAT CHRISTIANITY STANDS FOR AND MAY ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN A TRUE CHRISTIAN PERSON.
Most are usually deciding what options they want to put on their SUV, how much it will cost to upgrade their bathrooms, should they go plasma or LCD and tell themselves that sex outside of procreation was really just a mis-interpretation of the written word and will contradict scripture with other scripture. So much time to spend on the flaws of his "word".
I think in todays world, "christians" have basically boiled themselves down to that if they don't f**k anyone over with hostile intent, they deserve salvation.
trying to be nice here.
you are complete clueless. ozmo too.
you sit back and label every christian the same way because of what you see on the news about what some christian has done. you claim you know the bible and interpret this way and that way. that's a joke. if you actually took the time and studied it you would know how God deals with sin in saved and unsaved people.
there is a big difference between christians and those who are saved. i think there is like 85% of americans who say they are christians. don't quote me on that. are all of them saved?? no. i am saved. i have professed Jesus Christ as my saviour, accept the fact that he died on the cross for my sins and rose again from the grave. will i go to heaven when i die? yes. i know that for a fact because the bible, God's own words, told me so. will people go to heaven just for saying they're christian? no. you're story of the ford worker who done all those good deeds will not see the kingdom of heaven just for doing "good deeds".
is it right for someone like that to go to hell?? of course not.
is it right for someone who is saved and commits a horrible act to go to heaven? in your mind, no. they claim jeffery dahmer became saved when he was in prison. if that's true then he will be in heaven. we are not supposed to understand all God does. we cannot know the answer to everything.
i do believe God will give judgement to those he allows in heaven. jeffery dahmer faced punishment from God some way. we all will one day. you, me and ozmo. we will pay for the sins we have commited. but for me i know i will hear God say, "well done my good a faithful servant."
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trying to be nice here.
you are complete clueless. ozmo too.
you sit back and label every christian the same way because of what you see on the news about what some christian has done. you claim you know the bible and interpret this way and that way. that's a joke. if you actually took the time and studied it you would know how God deals with sin in saved and unsaved people.
there is a big difference between christians and those who are saved. i think there is like 85% of americans who say they are christians. don't quote me on that. are all of them saved?? no. i am saved. i have professed Jesus Christ as my saviour, accept the fact that he died on the cross for my sins and rose again from the grave. will i go to heaven when i die? yes. i know that for a fact because the bible, God's own words, told me so. will people go to heaven just for saying they're christian? no. you're story of the ford worker who done all those good deeds will not see the kingdom of heaven just for doing "good deeds".
is it right for someone like that to go to hell?? of course not.
is it right for someone who is saved and commits a horrible act to go to heaven? in your mind, no. they claim jeffery dahmer became saved when he was in prison. if that's true then he will be in heaven. we are not supposed to understand all God does. we cannot know the answer to everything.
i do believe God will give judgement to those he allows in heaven. jeffery dahmer faced punishment from God some way. we all will one day. you, me and ozmo. we will pay for the sins we have commited. but for me i know i will hear God say, "well done my good a faithful servant."
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trying to be nice here.
you are complete clueless. ozmo too.
you sit back and label every christian the same way because of what you see on the news about what some christian has done. you claim you know the bible and interpret this way and that way. that's a joke. if you actually took the time and studied it you would know how God deals with sin in saved and unsaved people.
there is a big difference between christians and those who are saved. i think there is like 85% of americans who say they are christians. don't quote me on that. are all of them saved?? no. i am saved. i have professed Jesus Christ as my saviour, accept the fact that he died on the cross for my sins and rose again from the grave. will i go to heaven when i die? yes. i know that for a fact because the bible, God's own words, told me so. will people go to heaven just for saying they're christian? no. you're story of the ford worker who done all those good deeds will not see the kingdom of heaven just for doing "good deeds".
is it right for someone like that to go to hell?? of course not.
is it right for someone who is saved and commits a horrible act to go to heaven? in your mind, no. they claim jeffery dahmer became saved when he was in prison. if that's true then he will be in heaven. we are not supposed to understand all God does. we cannot know the answer to everything.
i do believe God will give judgement to those he allows in heaven. jeffery dahmer faced punishment from God some way. we all will one day. you, me and ozmo. we will pay for the sins we have commited. but for me i know i will hear God say, "well done my good a faithful servant."
Amen. ;D
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is to look at christians as a bar instead of IMPERFECT humans that are dealing and struggling with the same issues and problems as them. We just deal with our problems with a smile finding comfort in knowing that we serve a God that loves us and and cares for us.
Being a Christian does not guarantee we wouldn't see hardships, face sickness, lose loved ones but it gurantee us JOY that nothing or no one of this world can provide.
hahahaa, the problem is that 'christianity' is basically about saying how IMPERFECT humans are. Yet, christians tend to believe that they are better than others because they found the ultimate truth that they are imperfect sinners and will go to hell if they don't kiss ass on a daily basis.
Your god and the view that your god 'loves YOU and cares for YOU' is the problem.
Christianity = kiss ass or go to hell
;D ;D
oh and, before someone comes along crying. I'm mocking the church here and its view of what christians are and should be.
I know that there are a lot of christians who think different, but it ALWAYS comes down to one thing, and no true christian can deny that: You think that people that don't believe in your god are inferior to you.
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I know that there are a lot of christians who think different, but it ALWAYS comes down to one thing, and no true christian can deny that: You think that people that don't believe in your god are inferior to you.
wrong, sorry but you are.
i don't understand where everyone has gotten that view of christians. ???
if you've had to personally deal with someone in your life who said they were christian and showed you in some way they were very hypocritical or made you feel inferior, then have that opinion about that one individual. not the entire christian community.
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wrong, sorry but you are.
i don't understand where everyone has gotten that view of christians. ???
if you've had to personally deal with someone in your life who said they were christian and showed you in some way they were very hypocritical or made you feel inferior, then have that opinion about that one individual. not the entire christian community.
hahaha, let's say i HAVEN'T met ANY christian up to this date who was different.
So the statistical chances are high that i am right.
Let me ask you: Do you think that someone who doesn't believe in god has done something wrong in his life and maybe needs a certain knowledge or situation to learn that christianity would be the right choice?
If you've ever thought this way, you felt that this person was inferior to you, who already has the 'blessing' of christianity.
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There's a ton, but again, it depends on who is interpreting it. Can we at least agree that unless you are doing it missionary with your husband, you are being sodomized?
I've never seen a scripture that says sex outside of procreation (w/your spouse) is wrong.
And no, there is nothing about "unless you are doing it missionary ....you are being sodomized."
Did you hear that is in the bible? Because it's not in the bible.
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I think in todays world, "christians" have basically boiled themselves down to that if they don't f**k anyone over with hostile intent, they deserve salvation.
I think that people that are truly saved realize they DON'T DESERVE salvation. Because people that are truly saved have realized their need for a savior, and that they can't EARN salvation, they realize that they don't deserve it.
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Fact is christains believe that so long as they accept Jesus as their savior they can sin endlessly and they will still go to heaven.
So, in other words christains have zero accountability for their actions and some are fond of condeming others for not being a christiain and most truely believe that the other 5 billion on earth will go to hell becuase it's impossible to live without sinning and only a sinless man can go to heaven unless he has accepted christ's sacrafice.
sin results in some kind of discipline here on earth(for the believer). It may take awhile to come but it will come. So there is not "zero accountability."
I don't condemn people for not being christians.
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wrong, sorry but you are.
i don't understand where everyone has gotten that view of christians. ???
if you've had to personally deal with someone in your life who said they were christian and showed you in some way they were very hypocritical or made you feel inferior, then have that opinion about that one individual. not the entire christian community.
agree
Let me ask you: Do you think that someone who doesn't believe in god has done something wrong in his life and maybe needs a certain knowledge or situation to learn that christianity would be the right choice?
If you've ever thought this way, you felt that this person was inferior to you, who already has the 'blessing' of christianity.
(everyone has done something wrong in his or her life)
I don't feel superior to anyone. I know I "need a savior."
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I agree with Stella across the board. Good answers.
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I think that people that are truly saved realize they DON'T DESERVE salvation. Because people that are truly saved have realized their need for a savior, and that they can't EARN salvation, they realize that they don't deserve it.
Well said.
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the christian way of discussion kills this thread off.
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I think that people that are truly saved realize they DON'T DESERVE salvation. Because people that are truly saved have realized their need for a savior, and that they can't EARN salvation, they realize that they don't deserve it.
man that was good.
it's by God's grace and love for us that he saved us through Jesus.
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it ALWAYS comes down to one thing, and no true christian can deny that: You think that people that don't believe in your god are inferior to you.
DonkeyKong, I did not read in-depth, the responses from the christians to this question.
Inferior may not be the most appropriate word, however all other religions are looked upon as "cults".
So in categorizing someone as being in or believing in a "cult" are they in fact looking down upon them? Perhaps so, perhaps not.
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I've never seen a scripture that says sex outside of procreation (w/your spouse) is wrong.
And no, there is nothing about "unless you are doing it missionary ....you are being sodomized."
Did you hear that is in the bible? Because it's not in the bible.
There are handfuls of quotes about sex between mates. They are very open for interpretation, most now
are interpreting it that anything goes between husband/wife. I do believe that this is a looser interpretation
of scripture within the past 50 years give or take, to conform christianity into todays lifestyle and what
is expected of christian behavior. (i.e. these people want to have unbridled sex lives and still be accepted into
gods kingdom).
I mean really, homosexuals have interpreted scripture to conveniently make their lifestyle acceptable and ensure
their ticket to eternal life. I even work with a lesbian, who is a very devout churchgoer.
You could literally put together a book of scripture that contradicts itself (it's probably been done already). It is
easy to fit scripture to make it accepting of a less than ideal christian lifestyle that someone is living.
Deviant sexual intercourse is a legal term for any act of sexual gratification involving the sex organs of one person and the mouth or anus of another or involving penetration of the anus or vagina of one person by a foreign object manipulated by another person.
This is a generally accepted legal definition of sodomy.
a) Do you really think the bible meant anything different? Perhaps gods definition of sodomy is even MORE stringent than todays legal system. (I would think so).
b) Honestly, I can guarantee this covers about 90%+ of todays christian community. So where does this leave them?
btw, the other 9% are just sick of their s/o's and won't do those things for them and of course there's always 1 in a 100! :D
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I think that people that are truly saved realize they DON'T DESERVE salvation.
I would not argue this point, but you may not be aware of this, you are boiling it down
to a very tiny percentage of self-proclaimed christians here Stella.
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I don't condemn people for not being christians.
are you accepting of them?
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There are handfuls of quotes about sex between mates. They are very open for interpretation, most now
are interpreting it that anything goes between husband/wife. I do believe that this is a looser interpretation
of scripture within the past 50 years give or take, to conform christianity into todays lifestyle and what
is expected of christian behavior. (i.e. these people want to have unbridled sex lives and still be accepted into
gods kingdom).
I mean really, homosexuals have interpreted scripture to conveniently make their lifestyle acceptable and ensure
their ticket to eternal life. I even work with a lesbian, who is a very devout churchgoer.
You could literally put together a book of scripture that contradicts itself (it's probably been done already). It is
easy to fit scripture to make it accepting of a less than ideal christian lifestyle that someone is living.
I'm not sure where you are finding "handfuls of quotes about sex between mates" or that these may quotes have to do w/married couples.
There are very few in my bible. I read a regular bible, perhaps you are referring to a Catholic Bible (which has extra books)?
Deviant sexual intercourse is a legal term for any act of sexual gratification involving the sex organs of one person and the mouth or anus of another or involving penetration of the anus or vagina of one person by a foreign object manipulated by another person.
This is a generally accepted legal definition of sodomy.
This is the legal definition of sodomy that I found at thefreedictionary.com (note there isn't anything about oral sex):
sodomy n. anal copulation by a man inserting his penis in the anus either of another man or a woman. If accomplished by force, without consent, or with someone incapable of consent, sodomy is a felony in all states in the same way that rape is. Homosexual (male to male) sodomy between consenting adults has also been found a felony, but increasingly is either decriminalized or seldom prosecuted. Sodomy with a consenting adult female is virtually never prosecuted even in those states in which it remains on the books as a criminal offense. However, there have been a few cases, including one in Indiana, in which a now-estranged wife insisted that a husband be charged with sodomy for sexual acts while they were living together. Traditionally sodomy was called "the crime against nature." Sodomy does not include oral copulation or sexual acts with animals (bestiality). (See: rape, bestiality)
The following is from themarriagebed.com, which is a site that pretty much states what I believe about sex between married spouses:
We often get questions like "Is oral sex OK?" or "My husband wants to make a video of us in the bedroom. Is this a sin?" The reason that we get so many of these questions is probably because the Bible does not specifically speak to everything that a couple can do sexually. Where scripture is silent we must look at Biblical principles to try to build outlines for what is, and is not allowable in the marriage bed.
Let's start with what the Bible does say.
We are to abstain from immoral sex. The Bible indicates the following are sin:
fornication/unmarried sex (Ga 5:19, 1 Co 7:2 & 36)
adultery (Ex 20:14, Mt 5:27)
homosexuality (Le 18:22 , Ro 1:26-27)
bestiality (Le 18:23 & 20:15-16)
prostitution (Le 19:29, De 23:17, Pr 23:27, 1 Co 6:15-16)
incest (Le 18:6)
We are to have sex only in marriage; one man with one woman. (Mt 19:4-5, 1 Ti 3:2 & 12)
We are to lovingly meet the legitimate sexual needs and wants of our spouse. (1 Co 7:3-5)
The preceding are all direct Biblical commands. In addition there are requirements set out for us as believers, and as husbands and wives, which add the following restrictions:
Love for our spouse, and respect for the bodies and minds God created, requires us to avoid anything which can cause serious problems: (Eph 5:29 & 33, 1 Co 6:19)
We should never push our spouse to compromise their beliefs. (Ro 14:1 & 14 & 23)
We are not to be controlled by anything. (1 Co 6:12 & 10:23)
Anything that does not violate these principles should be okay within the marriage bed.
If you go to the site, they even specifically cover oral sex, anal sex, sex toy use etc.
These people seem to know their bible and what it does and does not say about consensual sex between married couples.
http://www.themarriagebed.com/pages/bible/app/whatisokay.shtml
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are you accepting of them?
Of course. I have many friends that are not saved.