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Title: New Documents Show U.S. War Game in 1999 Predicted Iraq Disaster
Post by: 240 is Back on November 05, 2006, 04:42:19 PM
AP
Sunday, November 5, 2006

WASHINGTON The U.S. government conducted a series of secret war games in 1999 that anticipated an invasion of Iraq would require 400,000 troops, and even then chaos might ensue.

In its "Desert Crossing" games, 70 military, diplomatic and intelligence officials assumed the high troop levels would be needed to keep order, seal borders and take care of other security needs.

The documents came to light Saturday through a Freedom of Information Act request by the George Washington University's National Security Archive, an independent research institute and library.

"The conventional wisdom is the U.S. mistake in Iraq was not enough troops," said Thomas Blanton, the archive's director. "But the Desert Crossing war game in 1999 suggests we would have ended up with a failed state even with 400,000 troops on the ground."

There are currently about 144,000 U.S. troops in Iraq, down from a peak of about 160,000 in January.

A spokeswoman for U.S. Central Command, which sponsored the seminar and declassified the secret report in 2004, declined to comment Saturday because she was not familiar with the documents.

The war games looked at "worst case" and "most likely" scenarios after a war that removed then-Iraqi President Saddam Hussein from power. Some are similar to what actually occurred after the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003:

--"A change in regimes does not guarantee stability," the 1999 seminar briefings said. "A number of factors including aggressive neighbors, fragmentation along religious and/or ethnic lines, and chaos created by rival forces bidding for power could adversely affect regional stability."

--"Even when civil order is restored and borders are secured, the replacement regime could be problematic - especially if perceived as weak, a puppet, or out-of-step with prevailing regional governments."

--"Iran's anti-Americanism could be enflamed by a U.S.-led intervention in Iraq," the briefings read. "The influx of U.S. and other western forces into Iraq would exacerbate worries in Tehran, as would the installation of a pro-western government in Baghdad."

--"The debate on post-Saddam Iraq also reveals the paucity of information about the potential and capabilities of the external Iraqi opposition groups. The lack of intelligence concerning their roles hampers U.S. policy development."

--"Also, some participants believe that no Arab government will welcome the kind of lengthy U.S. presence that would be required to install and sustain a democratic government."

--"A long-term, large-scale military intervention may be at odds with many coalition partners."
Title: Re: New Documents Show U.S. War Game in 1999 Predicted Iraq Disaster
Post by: 240 is Back on November 05, 2006, 11:36:33 PM
I know.  It does leave you speechless.  We knew iraq would be a logistical failure without 400,000 troops, and we only brought 160k at the peak.

Why would we do this - underman things by 60%, when all the reports and generals said we needed 400K at least?

*IF* we had used 400k men over there, would the war be over right now?
Title: Re: New Documents Show U.S. War Game in 1999 Predicted Iraq Disaster
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 06, 2006, 12:09:16 AM
Quote from: 240 is Back on November 05, 2006, 11:36:33 PM
I know.  It does leave you speechless.  We knew iraq would be a logistical failure without 400,000 troops, and we only brought 160k at the peak.

Why would we do this - underman things by 60%, when all the reports and generals said we needed 400K at least?

*IF* we had used 400k men over there, would the war be over right now?
I seem to remember getting my ass chewed over a week ago for pointing out the same thing... Now here's the documents that indisputably fix this as fact.


   You're just been NEOCONNED   
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Better start asking what the real motivation was...  It sure in the f**k isn't America...







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