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Title: No more 60+ home runs
Post by: buffbodz on November 06, 2006, 12:31:22 PM
Strange that when their is a steroid prob in MLB the days of 60+ homers seem to be over.  Duh, I wonder if the drugs had anything to do with it ???
Title: Re: No more 60+ home runs
Post by: body88 on November 06, 2006, 12:38:22 PM
Ortiz hit 54. If Manny was not a shithead and stayed in the lineup instead of making up lies about about injuries he might have had 60 plus.

Title: Re: No more 60+ home runs
Post by: Dos Equis on November 06, 2006, 12:39:15 PM
Ya think?   ;D  Too bad they cannot wipe some of those records off the books.  I'm actually hoping for a Bonds indictment on tax evasion before next season.  
Title: Re: No more 60+ home runs
Post by: body88 on November 06, 2006, 12:41:42 PM
Ya think?   ;D  Too bad they cannot wipe some of those records off the books.  I'm actually hoping for a Bonds indictment on tax evasion before next season.  


I think he could have had 64 if Manny stayed around to protect him. Once Manny got "injured" they gave him nothing to hit. I wonder what pitchers where on the sauce :-X
Title: Re: No more 60+ home runs
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on November 06, 2006, 01:53:58 PM
Strange that when their is a steroid prob in MLB the days of 60+ homers seem to be over.  Duh, I wonder if the drugs had anything to do with it ???

Why do people equate steriods with ability, if that were the case I wouldn't have been stuck in AA for two years :-\!!
Title: Re: No more 60+ home runs
Post by: bmacsys on November 06, 2006, 01:55:12 PM
Strange that when their is a steroid prob in MLB the days of 60+ homers seem to be over.  Duh, I wonder if the drugs had anything to do with it ???

The guy from Philly had 58.
Title: Re: No more 60+ home runs
Post by: Cavalier22 on November 06, 2006, 01:58:03 PM
i think he means, gone are the days when random people like brady anderson and greg vaughn have 50+ homer seasons out of nowhere.
Title: Re: No more 60+ home runs
Post by: bmacsys on November 06, 2006, 01:58:49 PM
Why do people equate steriods with ability, if that were the case I wouldn't have been stuck in AA for two years :-\!!

Long fly balls that were caught at the track are now going a few rows deep. Its easy to analyze. A great increase in strength plus the endurance you gain from the juice for a 162 game season is huge. Maybe of even more importance to a baseball player than a football player or track athlete.
Title: Re: No more 60+ home runs
Post by: bmacsys on November 06, 2006, 02:00:14 PM
i think he means, gone are the days when random people like brady anderson and greg vaughn have 50+ homer seasons out of nowhere.

Hey, Brady Anderson hit like 14 one year. ;) What about Gonzales in Arizona in 2001 magically hitting 57?
Title: Re: No more 60+ home runs
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on November 06, 2006, 02:03:42 PM
Long fly balls that were caught at the track are now going a few rows deep. Its easy to analyze. A great increase in strength plus the endurance you gain from the juice for a 162 game season is huge. Maybe of even more importance to a baseball player than a football player or track athlete.

The players that are power hitters have always been power hitters, the difference is the ball flies 40ft over the fence instead of 10ft....either way, it goes over!
Title: Re: No more 60+ home runs
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 06, 2006, 02:05:38 PM
The players that are power hitters have always been power hitters, the difference is the ball flies 40ft over the fence instead of 10ft....either way, it goes over!

Yeah, but the guys with warning track power were elevated to 10th row power.
Title: Re: No more 60+ home runs
Post by: bmacsys on November 06, 2006, 02:08:50 PM
Yeah, but the guys with warning track power were elevated to 10th row power.

Intensone just doesn't get it.
Title: Re: No more 60+ home runs
Post by: bmacsys on November 06, 2006, 02:10:47 PM
The players that are power hitters have always been power hitters, the difference is the ball flies 40ft over the fence instead of 10ft....either way, it goes over!

Now if they don't get all of it it still will go out. C'mon dude if you are a lot stronger you will hit more knocks out. Its simple math not rocket science.
Title: Re: No more 60+ home runs
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on November 06, 2006, 02:13:25 PM
Intensone just doesn't get it.

Of course I get that!!
Title: Re: No more 60+ home runs
Post by: body88 on November 06, 2006, 02:17:36 PM
Whatever happened to Sammy Sosa  ::)




Juice has NO effect on athletic performance ::)
Title: Re: No more 60+ home runs
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on November 06, 2006, 02:22:12 PM
Whatever happened to Sammy Sosa  ::)




Juice has NO effect on athletic performance ::)

Didn't say performance, I said skill!
Title: Re: No more 60+ home runs
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on November 06, 2006, 02:24:39 PM
Yeah, but the guys with warning track power were elevated to 10th row power.

And the guys that were not warning track hitters didn't magically become homerun hitters, don't forget that at least 60-70% (or more) of players are on at least something!!
Title: Re: No more 60+ home runs
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 06, 2006, 02:27:07 PM
And the guys that were not warning track hitters didn't magically become homerun hitters, don't forget that at least 60-70% (or more) of players are on at least something!!

Actually some did.  Brady Anderson is barely a warning track power player and look what he did.  Same with Gonzalez.  If it didn't work, they wouldn't be/have been using it.  Simple.
Title: Re: No more 60+ home runs
Post by: bmacsys on November 06, 2006, 02:35:14 PM
And the guys that were not warning track hitters didn't magically become homerun hitters, don't forget that at least 60-70% (or more) of players are on at least something!!

Most were on amphetemines.
Title: Re: No more 60+ home runs
Post by: bmacsys on November 06, 2006, 02:47:01 PM
Rumor has it Garciaparra was a juicer. We know Dykstra, Bonds, McGuire, Giambi, Juan Gone, Canseco, Sosa, Luis Gonzales were. Pudge was rumored, Caminitti, Brett Boone were. Bagwell had whispers about his usage. I am tired. Probably a lot of names I have missed. Here are the guys who didn't use, Griffey, great lefthanded powerstroke, Cecil Fielder, immense strength, Ryan Howard and guys like Jim Thome are in the same class as Fielder.
Title: Re: No more 60+ home runs
Post by: body88 on November 06, 2006, 02:55:37 PM
Rumor has it Garciaparra was a juicer. We know Dykstra, Bonds, McGuire, Giambi, Juan Gone, Canseco, Sosa, Luis Gonzales were. Pudge was rumored, Caminitti, Brett Boone were. Bagwell had whispers about his usage. I am tired. Probably a lot of names I have missed. Here are the guys who didn't use, Griffey, great lefthanded powerstroke, Cecil Fielder, immense strength, Ryan Howard and guys like Jim Thome are in the same class as Fielder.

Manny and Papi dont juice. Amazing hitters.
Title: Re: No more 60+ home runs
Post by: bmacsys on November 06, 2006, 03:01:38 PM
Manny and Papi dont juice. Amazing hitters.

Yup, meant to put big Papi in the big, strong, category.
Title: Re: No more 60+ home runs
Post by: body88 on November 06, 2006, 03:31:46 PM
I wonder who juices but e would never suspect it from.


i say don zimmer  ;)
Title: Re: No more 60+ home runs
Post by: kh300 on November 06, 2006, 03:33:53 PM
steroids gives you extra power but it also gives you extra "rage" and focus when your at the plate. performance drugs also make a 162 game season seem a lot shorter. as far as records being erased, no way. fields are shorter, the mounds lower, better equipment, different balls and bats, better training methods. theres too many variables that make the game change. even if bonds breaks Ruth's record, ruth will always be remembered as a better hitter. did McGuire take roids or was it just the andro? we wil never know who did or didnt.
Title: Re: No more 60+ home runs
Post by: bmacsys on November 06, 2006, 03:37:47 PM
steroids gives you extra power but it also gives you extra "rage" and focus when your at the plate. performance drugs also make a 162 game season seem a lot shorter. as far as records being erased, no way. fields are shorter, the mounds lower, better equipment, different balls and bats, better training methods. theres too many variables that make the game change. even if bonds breaks Ruth's record, ruth will always be remembered as a better hitter. did McGuire take roids or was it just the andro? we wil never know who did or didnt.

I think its pretty apparent who did juice.
Title: Re: No more 60+ home runs
Post by: Al-Gebra on November 06, 2006, 07:44:26 PM
anyone think griffey SR was on the juice in the later years of his career? wish i had some pics, but that dude got more muscular as he aged.
Title: Re: No more 60+ home runs
Post by: buffbodz on November 07, 2006, 12:30:31 PM
The HR #'s are down since  juice-a-gate happened.  Do you think we'll see another Bonds with 70+?  I highly doubt it unless another undetectable substance is discovered.  Even than I would think that with multi million dollar contracts, who would take the chance now?

Big Papi had his best year because of Manny.  Many think Manny will be gone next year.  So logically Papi won't get the pitches He had last season.  I don't think He'll see 50 without Manny's threat.  It will be a shame to breakup the best 3-4 combo in baseball.  But Manny, as always, wants out.

Manny and Papi dont juice. Amazing hitters.

That will be a tuff loss.
Title: Re: No more 60+ home runs
Post by: body88 on November 07, 2006, 01:48:35 PM
The HR #'s are down since  juice-a-gate happened.  Do you think we'll see another Bonds with 70+?  I highly doubt it unless another undetectable substance is discovered.  Even than I would think that with multi million dollar contracts, who would take the chance now?

Big Papi had his best year because of Manny.  Many think Manny will be gone next year.  So logically Papi won't get the pitches He had last season.  I don't think He'll see 50 without Manny's threat.  It will be a shame to breakup the best 3-4 combo in baseball.  But Manny, as always, wants out.

That will be a tuff loss.



There are things cooking in Fenway.... Papi will get his protection. Manny may go. But there is also a good chance he will not. The sox are not going to weaken the team. Manny has been doing this for years. If the Sox can get better with him getting traded they will do it. If not they wont move him.


Theo said himself we need to make 6 moves and go 6 for six. realistically we need at least four of those six moves. With the current market lets see what wonder boy can do.