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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: the shadow on November 09, 2006, 11:09:27 AM
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this is sad..what happened.a guy wich everyone thought was the uncrowned olympia ended his career on a sad note..just look at his record after 1990..
http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=Gaspari,+Rich
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Squatting 7-800lbs, benching 400+ for reps for a decade will do that to ya with the injuries... sometimes too strong for your own good. Id rather be him NOW haha business is booming!
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very few BBS had that many shows under there belt..the constant up and down of dieting also strains the body...he has nothing at all to ever be ashamed of period..
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this is sad..what happened.a guy wich everyone thought was the uncrowned olympia ended his career on a sad note..just look at his record after 1990..
http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=Gaspari,+Rich
rich just trained ot hard for too long. He pretty much tore everything near the end. he was awsome up until 90 then he just couldn't take it anymore. He tried a comeback in 95ish and he was beat to shit, torn pec, torn bi's, torn quads, torn lats....
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Telling the truth. In 88. He has already showed his sign of fatigue in spite of his earning 2nd to Haney.
So 87 was his best. And should have beaten haney.
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Telling the truth. In 88. He has already showed his sign of fatigue in spite of his earning 2nd to Haney.
So 87 was his best. And should have beaten haney.
keep dreaming haney still owned him in 87
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Rich was in far better condition and far more muscular. Check out the pics here:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1987mrolympiadvdreview.html
This says it all. :o :o :o
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia1987/111.jpg)
he also had a waist as wide as his shoulders!
haney all the way...
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I heard he had a stroke, and is partially paralyzed. Any truth to this rumor.
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didn't rich stay in contest shape year round too? IF that is true that can't be good
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monster shrinkage :o
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monster shrinkage :o
You like it bigger to be penetrated huh? ;D
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Peaking too often for too many shows, too many torn bodyparts.
One of the greats, could have gone out more gracefully on top of his game, but nevertheless a real role model for the less genetically gifted and a pioneer in conditioning.
The kind of guy that never said never, and very intense, he apparently put his life savings into prepping for the Nats, and it was pro card or bust!
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this is sad..what happened.a guy wich everyone thought was the uncrowned olympia ended his career on a sad note..just look at his record after 1990..
http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=Gaspari,+Rich
In addition to overtraining, his body didn't respond as well to AAS as other bodybuilders.
Average genetics as well.
He would have been much more successful as a powerlifter because he was very strong for his size.
He could have torn up one of the smaller weight classes.
He would have never beaten Haney.....didn't have the size or aesthetics.
DIV
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Haney dont have legs,striated hams and glutes. Rich had them all. Perfection.
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Haney dont have legs,striated hams and glutes. Rich had them all. Perfection.
Haney just had better aesthetics and symmetry...
For Gaspari to win he'd have to be 100% and Haney would have had to have been off his game.
Unfortunately, he wasn't at the Olympia which is why he beat Gaspari.
DIV
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Haney dont have legs,striated hams and glutes. Rich had them all. Perfection.
Gaspari was hardly perfection... too short, wide hips, small arms, zero forearms, high lats.
Some good individual bodyparts yes... complete bodybuilder no
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Haney dont have legs,striated hams and glutes. Rich had them all. Perfection.
Great lower body, fantastic conditioning consistently and very good presentation.
Below average genes, blocky structure, but he was an overachiever. Also the thyroid meds(prob year round), diuretics(lots), and aas, also possibly one of the first to foray into the gh field had an adverse effect ultimately.
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Great lower body, fantastic conditioning consistently and very good presentation.
Below average genes, blocky structure, but he was an overachiever. Also the thyroid meds(prob year round), diuretics(lots), and aas, also possibly one of the first to foray into the gh field had an adverse effect ultimately.
Genetically flawed and his body did not respond as well to AAS as other bodybuilders, or perhaps he wasn't using enough.
One way or the other, he was limited.
He made the most out of what he had, probably worked as hard or harder than most bodybuilders, but placings aren't determined by work ethic.
DIV
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Yep.
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Although he was my favorite at the time, once others with superior shape and structure were able to match his level of conditioning, it was only a matter of time.
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Does anyone have any later pics of Gaspari? I only remember him in his prime..
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Does anyone have any later pics of Gaspari? I only remember him in his prime..
I'm not sure anyone saved pics of him after the muscle tears, as I have never seen them.
Strange.
DIV
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His physique lacked that crazy hardness quality of his early career,heart attack rumours every year ::),his body stopped responding to it's regimine eventually.
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I keep reading about how Rich had below average genetics or just average genetics. Looking at things like waist-to-shoulder with ratio, his slightly bowed lower legs, and short biceps I suppose there is some truth to this. But looking at other things like the ability to pack on the mass and achieve that shrink-wrapped skin look on contest day (when it really matters) then Gaspari was rather gifted in this regard. During the 80's Rich was able to beat many supposedly gifted bodybuilders who for one reason or another could never get their crap together on the day of the contest.
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speaking on pure rumor, the guy kept at his leanest in a very munzer-like way. i guess you can't do that for too long before it just shatters your body.
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Gaspari was the very first bodybuilder who had cross-striations and striated glutes! Freaky veins everywhere...He brought a new level of conditioning to bodybuilding...he trained very intense. I am friends with one of his older training partners. He would train to failure on every set! Heavy barbell rows super-setted with wide pull downs, super-setted with low pulley rows, doing 4 sets of each would be one exercise-set for his back workout...he didn't do this every workout, but my buddy did train back with him on this sequence.
He made the best of his genetics and placing 2nd to Haney is a very good accomplishment, now a successful business person with a beautiful wife...he ain't doing to shabby!
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Gaspari was awesome at his peak...unreal definition.
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Veiny yes, but gifted? ::)
Rich was not gifted. He had below average genetics (upper body). He was an overrated great white hope. His arms sucked, his back sucked, he was blocky and his shoulders were narrow. However, he did have a good work ethic.
Haney absolutely destroyed him in every Mr O contest.
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Veiny yes, but gifted? ::)
Rich was not gifted. He had below average genetics (upper body). He was an overrated great white hope. His arms sucked, his back sucked, he was blocky and his shoulders were narrow. However, he did have a good work ethic.
Haney absolutely destroyed him in every Mr O contest.
He had him beat on most of the shows, but there were close-calls, even being a Rich fan, I'll say Haney had the best overall package (with flaws), but Haney got gifts, one was Labrada getting shafted, the other was Ray getting the wrong end of the stick.
Rich had a good look, not Mr O, unfortunately, but a good powerful look.
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Veiny yes, but gifted? ::)
Rich was not gifted. He had below average genetics (upper body). He was an overrated great white hope. His arms sucked, his back sucked, he was blocky and his shoulders were narrow. However, he did have a good work ethic.
Haney absolutely destroyed him in every Mr O contest.
think again junior...
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Genetically flawed and his body did not respond as well to AAS as other bodybuilders, or perhaps he wasn't using enough.
Yeah right. ::) He responded absolutely beautifully to the drugs. He was a champion at a very early age. The problem if there was any was his structure, and muscle bellies. Compared to the population in general he had magnificent genetics for muscular development.
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those are some freaky pics.......
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His physique lacked that crazy hardness quality of his early career,heart attack rumours every year ::),his body stopped responding to it's regimine eventually.
I heard his body stopped responding to T3.
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Last time I saw him he looked to be in good health. I think that was about a year ago.
Chris
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I keep reading about how Rich had below average genetics or just average genetics. Looking at things like waist-to-shoulder with ratio, his slightly bowed lower legs, and short biceps I suppose there is some truth to this. But looking at other things like the ability to pack on the mass and achieve that shrink-wrapped skin look on contest day (when it really matters) then Gaspari was rather gifted in this regard. During the 80's Rich was able to beat many supposedly gifted bodybuilders who for one reason or another could never get their crap together on the day of the contest.
exactly...DIVISION...how in the world did u reach the conclusion that a guy like gaspari placing 2nd in the olynpia nonetheless has average genetics?
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he didn't respond well to anabolics?
i don't get it. to my eyes he was easily the most muscular and conditioned bber of his generation. he set the standards here. his flaws were aesthetics and shape which have little to do with drugs and a lot to do with genetics.
put it this way. of all the bbers competing with him (including haney) gaspari had the physique that was most unatainable without drugs.
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genetics or not gaspari worked his ass off to compete at the highest.drugs do play a major role in bodybuilding.take for instance ronnie coleman.till 1998 virtually every pro bodybuilder made coleman lok like a bitch.ronnie coleman trained his ass off to be mr olympia and what worked for him and what works well fro every pro bodybuilder is steroids. i don't consider genetics anything in pro bodybuilding.the simple thing is train as hard as you can and juice as hard as you can.thats what pro bodybuilding is all about....he just did the same thing for too long though but still rich will always be considered as true bodybuilding legend..
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Yeah right. ::) He responded absolutely beautifully to the drugs. He was a champion at a very early age. The problem if there was any was his structure, and muscle bellies. Compared to the population in general he had magnificent genetics for muscular development.
Bildernugga.....
I'm not sure whether it was his limited genetics or whether his body didn't respond to the AAS as well as other bodybuilders, but he just didn't have the structure and size to beat Haney. Sure he came in 2nd, but his ceiling didn't allow him to be #1.
exactly...DIVISION...how in the world did u reach the conclusion that a guy like gaspari placing 2nd in the olynpia nonetheless has average genetics?
Average to below average genetics combined with hard work and AAS = Gaspari.
If it was the AAS, perhaps he needed more or different drugs.
If it was genetics, the AAS wouldn't matter anyway.
It he was that gifted, he'd have beat Haney for the Olympia at least once.
he didn't respond well to anabolics?
i don't get it. to my eyes he was easily the most muscular and conditioned bber of his generation. he set the standards here. his flaws were aesthetics and shape which have little to do with drugs and a lot to do with genetics.
put it this way. of all the bbers competing with him (including haney) gaspari had the physique that was most unatainable without drugs.
Gaspari had better conditioning than Haney, but Haney had the pleasing physique and better structure.
Haney was the complete package, while Gaspari was the ultimate underdog who peaked at #2.
His prime was only about two years and then injuries and overtraining ruined his body.
DIV
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somehow you think peaking at no 2 in the world is average...jesus...did u play any sports competitively?...any...
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http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/johnh2.htm (http://www.jdoqocy.com/click-1881271-10409943?url=http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/johnh2.htm)
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this is sad..what happened.a guy wich everyone thought was the uncrowned olympia ended his career on a sad note..just look at his record after 1990..
http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=Gaspari,+Rich
He was done after the 1989 Olympia. Vince Taylor and Labrada had caught him and Shawn Ray was just around the corner. I think his body just gave out, sort of like what happened to Nasser.
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I have an old Flex mag with him and eddie robinson doing extensions with the 200lbs dumbell. cool photo shoot.
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I have an old Flex mag with him and eddie robinson doing extensions with the 200lbs dumbell. cool photo shoot.
damn eddie and rich were one of the true hard core trainers ever..they moved heavy weight like it was nothing