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Title: Busting Through Diet Plateau
Post by: MidniteRambo on November 15, 2006, 10:48:49 AM
I've been trying to "diet down" before the holidays.  By way of background, I'm 38 y/o, 6'3, decent frame and muscle development.  I've been averaging about 1940 calories per day for the month, keeping protein levels solid (270g+), carbs moderately low (around 100), fiber high (40g), water intake high (1.5-2 gal), doing about 120 min of cardio (eliptical) per week.

As you can tell by the following weigh ins, progress has suddenly stalled over the last four days:

11/6- 221.8
11/7- 220.8
11/8- 220.0
11/9- 218.0
11/10- 218.4
11/11- 217.4
11/12- 216.6
11/13- 216.6
11/14- 216.6
11/15- 216.6

Any advice on busting through the plateau or is it a case of just "staying the course"?
Title: Re: Busting Through Diet Plateau
Post by: Nordic Superman on November 15, 2006, 12:52:29 PM
Can you do spring training, 3 x 15 mins per week?
Title: Re: Busting Through Diet Plateau
Post by: GET_BIGGER on November 15, 2006, 01:28:57 PM
McDonalds
Title: Re: Busting Through Diet Plateau
Post by: MidniteRambo on November 15, 2006, 01:49:26 PM
Can you do spring training, 3 x 15 mins per week?

Forgive me for not knowing, but would you elaborate?
Title: Re: Busting Through Diet Plateau
Post by: Jr. Yates on November 15, 2006, 02:04:28 PM
Im going upstairs for a peice of chocolate cheesecake.
Title: Re: Busting Through Diet Plateau
Post by: MidniteRambo on November 15, 2006, 02:19:27 PM
Im going upstairs for a peice of chocolate cheesecake.

Damn Yates, this dieting is tough enough without hearing about chessecake and McDonalds! (LOL)  I'm climbing the walls.
Title: Re: Busting Through Diet Plateau
Post by: Nordic Superman on November 16, 2006, 03:59:07 AM
Forgive me for not knowing, but would you elaborate?

HIIT: jog/walk > sprint > jog/walk > sprint > repeat

Do this as many times as you can in a 15/20 min period, 2 to 3 times a week. You'd probably get away with only twice with the caloric deficit you're in.

This is second only to being burnt alive for increasing your metabolism!

Title: Re: Busting Through Diet Plateau
Post by: MidniteRambo on November 16, 2006, 07:18:05 AM
HIIT: jog/walk > sprint > jog/walk > sprint > repeat

Do this as many times as you can in a 15/20 min period, 2 to 3 times a week. You'd probably get away with only twice with the caloric deficit you're in.

This is second only to being burnt alive for increasing your metabolism!

Thanks.  I'm going to give it a try.
Title: Re: Busting Through Diet Plateau
Post by: Nordic Superman on November 16, 2006, 01:18:23 PM
Thanks.  I'm going to give it a try.

The sprinting should be intense remember, as fast as you can for as long as you can until your heart rate rockets.

How long are your regular cardio sessions?

Also, you should go more off "look" as well as weight loss. A pound of mass here or there could be ANYTHING. Less water, empty bowels etc :-*
Title: Re: Busting Through Diet Plateau
Post by: canadian_husker on November 16, 2006, 08:07:29 PM
stop weighing yourself everyday
Title: Re: Busting Through Diet Plateau
Post by: MidniteRambo on November 17, 2006, 08:16:41 AM
stop weighing yourself everyday

I'm not disagreeing necessarily . . .  what's your reason?
Title: Re: Busting Through Diet Plateau
Post by: rockyfortune on November 17, 2006, 12:14:26 PM
5lbs in 9 days is a lot of weight..my guess is that you aren't burning bodyfat..and that's what you want...just because the scale shows 5lbs lost doesn't mean you are minus 5lbs of bodyfat.

i'd be in the pisser all day drinking two gallons of water...

Title: Re: Busting Through Diet Plateau
Post by: MidniteRambo on November 17, 2006, 01:03:25 PM
5lbs in 9 days is a lot of weight..my guess is that you aren't burning bodyfat..and that's what you want...just because the scale shows 5lbs lost doesn't mean you are minus 5lbs of bodyfat.

i'd be in the pisser all day drinking two gallons of water...

And that I am . . . .

As far as the amount of weight, I assume some is fat based on the calorie restriction and increased cardio.  I believe that the amount of protein I'm consuming along with its frequency is sparing muscle wasting (a key sign- I'm maintaining strength on my lifts), so I'm assuming some variation is attributable to water weight and the rest is fat
Title: Re: Busting Through Diet Plateau
Post by: Count Grishnackh on November 17, 2006, 10:54:42 PM
Damn Yates, this dieting is tough enough without hearing about chessecake and McDonalds! (LOL)  I'm climbing the walls.

You obviously haven't expanded your knowledge of diet enough.

It is quite simple to maintain excellent shape, conditioning and size and eat everything that you want, everyday.
Title: Re: Busting Through Diet Plateau
Post by: MidniteRambo on November 20, 2006, 12:33:02 PM
You obviously haven't expanded your knowledge of diet enough.

It is quite simple to maintain excellent shape, conditioning and size and eat everything that you want, everyday.

I disagree with the above premise.  Regardless, I'm not looking to maintain currently, I'm looking to reduce bodyfat.  To do that, I follow what science supports: sustained caloric deficits through decreased consumption and increased energy expenditure promotes fat loss.
Title: Re: Busting Through Diet Plateau
Post by: MidniteRambo on November 20, 2006, 12:34:17 PM
HIIT: jog/walk > sprint > jog/walk > sprint > repeat

Do this as many times as you can in a 15/20 min period, 2 to 3 times a week. You'd probably get away with only twice with the caloric deficit you're in.

This is second only to being burnt alive for increasing your metabolism!

It worked like a charm- the plateau has been defeated.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Busting Through Diet Plateau
Post by: GET_BIGGER on November 21, 2006, 07:47:51 AM
It worked like a charm- the plateau has been defeated.  Thank you.

It was the McDonalds wasnt it.......... ;)
Title: Re: Busting Through Diet Plateau
Post by: MidniteRambo on November 21, 2006, 09:05:46 AM
It was the McDonalds wasnt it.......... ;)

I hereby invoke my Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.
Title: Re: Busting Through Diet Plateau
Post by: Count Grishnackh on November 21, 2006, 09:34:15 PM
I disagree with the above premise.  Regardless, I'm not looking to maintain currently, I'm looking to reduce bodyfat.  To do that, I follow what science supports: sustained caloric deficits through decreased consumption and increased energy expenditure promotes fat loss.

Fair enough if you're still looking to lose.

Disagree? Have you done it?  I have/do, there's nothing to disagree with. It works. Whether you use it or not is a different
matter.

I eat whatever I want, in whatever amounts I want and maintain perfectly.
Title: Re: Busting Through Diet Plateau
Post by: MidniteRambo on November 22, 2006, 07:56:48 AM
I eat whatever I want, in whatever amounts I want and maintain perfectly.

I  don't disagree that you eat whatever you want in whatever amounts because it may be true for you. (I'm not there with you, so how do I know?)  But speaking on behalf of most of us mere mortals, experience has taught me that when I eat whatever I want in whatever amounts, very bad things happen.

Perhaps the way to short circuit this is, let's hear the details of your "eat everything whenever" program and let others on the site judge for themselves.  (For example, on average how often are you eating, average caloric consumption, what do you eat, are there particular foods or nutrients that you focus on, do you consume alcohol, do you offset caloric consumption with cardiovascular activity, etc.)

(As an aside, your prior quote "You obviously haven't expanded your knowledge of diet enough" is just a bit condescending though, particularly to those whose experiences may be different from yours.  Maybe you have a great metabolism.)
Title: Re: Busting Through Diet Plateau
Post by: Count Grishnackh on November 22, 2006, 08:40:03 PM
I  don't disagree that you eat whatever you want in whatever amounts because it may be true for you. (I'm not there with you, so how do I know?)  But speaking on behalf of most of us mere mortals, experience has taught me that when I eat whatever I want in whatever amounts, very bad things happen.

Perhaps the way to short circuit this is, let's hear the details of your "eat everything whenever" program and let others on the site judge for themselves.  (For example, on average how often are you eating, average caloric consumption, what do you eat, are there particular foods or nutrients that you focus on, do you consume alcohol, do you offset caloric consumption with cardiovascular activity, etc.)

(As an aside, your prior quote "You obviously haven't expanded your knowledge of diet enough" is just a bit condescending though, particularly to those whose experiences may be different from yours.  Maybe you have a great metabolism.)


I wasn't intending to come across condescending. I just cringe when I see people suffer through diets.

I am a mere mortal. No super metabolism, no super genetics.

Re-read my post though, it's not a "eat everything whenever" program.
Title: Re: Busting Through Diet Plateau
Post by: MidniteRambo on November 27, 2006, 09:46:37 AM
Re-read my post though, it's not a "eat everything whenever" program.

Let's hear the details of your program.