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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Theoak* on November 18, 2006, 04:55:25 PM
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Looked amazing in hes early 20's, great potential from young.
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wow..that was about 10 years ago....he looked amazing at 22.... 8)
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WOW when did he start juicing??
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It says he is 5'10" on there :-\
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looked awesome! who cares when he started using gear.
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wow, i gotta give it to him, he look massive at 22
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WOW when did he start juicing??
About 60 percent of serious high school athletes juice. None look anything close to that big. Most all pros started juicing pretty early. He was huge and the potential was obvious from day one. Cutler did not start juicing ridiculously early. The kid was big and ripped before he ever touched a steriod. Look at him, he is a pure mesomorph.
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About 60 percent of serious high school athletes juice.
no way it's that high, it's not even that high in college. maybe college football.
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no way it's that high, it's not even that high in college. maybe college football.
My highschool was d1 in all sports. Half my buddies who played sports juiced at one point or another. I played sports in college. Tons of kids use gear. You played soccer right? Sports like football wrestling and baseball has alot of players on shit.
I dunno about other parts of the country. But I graduated with over 1000 seniors in highschool. Most all my buddys played football, baseball or wrestled. I would say at least half of em where on the sauce at one point or another. Alot tried it and never did another cycle.
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My highschool was d1 in all sports. Half my buddies who played sports juiced at one point or another. I played sports in college. Tons of kids use gear. You played soccer right? Sports like football wrestling and baseball has alot of players on shit.
I dunno about other parts of the country. But I graduated with over 1000 seniors in highschool. Most all my buddys played football, baseball or wrestled. I would say at least half of em where on the sauce at one point or another. Alot tried it and never did another cycle.
I see, it wasn't like that in my high school, Probably why our football team sucked and was so small.
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I see, it wasn't like that in my high school, Probably why our football team sucked and was so small.
Could have just been my school lol. Just seemed alot of kids in the area had tried it at one point or another. I think when you are young you are extra delusional hence all these kids blasting sauce at like 17.
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19 or 20 here i belive &mode=related&search=
talk about genetics!
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tremendous bber 8)
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The kid was big and ripped before he ever touched a steriod.
Not true, pics of him around 16 show a skinny kid.
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his legs looked better coming off the smaller waist back then
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lol at 18 years old 8)
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Not true, pics of him around 16 show a skinny kid.
Wrong.... Look at the picture above. He is a 100 percent pure mesomorph. i am sure the pictures of when he was 16 was before he started training seriously. I said he was big and ripped before he was on juice. Not before he started working out ::)
You do not get to 270 shredded pounds without some predisposition for mass and size. Drugs or not. If drugs where the onlyfactor everone would be shredded at about 270 at five foot nine.
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lol at 18 years old 8)
He was already juicing then , look at the pre juice pics.
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Wrong....
Right... I have the pics here right in front of me from a 97 muscle and fitness.Back in the days where I thought the Articles were actually valid and I actually bought magazines.
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some say that ronnie was natural when he turned pro ::)
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Right... I have the pics here right in front of me from a 97 muscle and fitness.Back in the days where I thought the Articles were actually valid and I actually bought magazines.
Wrong... A picture of a 16 year old teen ( prob before he started working out) posted in a mag for a dramatic before and after picture is not a valid gauge of ones potential. Did you know Jay at 18? So how do you know he was DEF juicing at that point? Who are you I might know you. You know since you knew Cutler at 18 and knew for a FACT he was juicing. You must be from the worcester area. Must know alot of the people who are close to Jay if you know he was juicing at 18. What screams juice about that picture? Fact he dwarfs you now in that shot?
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Jay Cutler is still natural. He's thinking about starting his first cycle.
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Jay Cutler is still natural. He's thinking about starting his first cycle.
I am not denying that Cutler pounds the sauce. Just like Ronnie and most all the other pros. But in that shot when he was 18 he looks natty to me. Everyone over 180 lbs is on juice according to this board. I mean he is not even that ripped in the shot. Just big. You can see he has genetics for size.
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I am not denying that Cutler pounds the sauce. Just like Ronnie and most all the other pros. But in that shot when he was 18 he looks natty to me. Everyone over 180 lbs is on juice according to this board. I mean he is not even that ripped in the shot. Just big. You can see he has genetics for size.
i agree that he looks natural, his pecs and shoulders weren't great in that pic at 18 and later on they were his best parts besides legs.
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Wrong... A picture of a 16 year old teen ( prob before he started working out) posted in a mag for a dramatic before and after picture is not a valid gauge of ones potential. Did you know Jay at 18? So how do you know he was DEF juicing at that point? Who are you I might know you. You know since you knew Cutler at 18 and knew for a FACT he was juicing. You must be from the worcester area. Must know alot of the people who are close to Jay if you know he was juicing at 18. What screams juice about that picture? Fact he dwarfs you now in that shot?
All false.
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All false.
Yea ok pal.... You think this is a person who is on a cycle?. Still waiting for a shred of proof about any of your meatball statements. He does not have that dense look that being "on" provides. You can clearly see he is about average bodyfat for a teen. You can also see his mesomorphic traits. Find me a few pics of average 18 year old looking that thick ::)
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lol at 18 years old 8)
where's Jay I just see a Fridge in the Kitchen
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his chin isn't too abnormally large in that pic
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Jay Cutler is still natural. He's thinking about starting his first cycle.
has he made any decisions yet?
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Yea ok pal.... You think this is a person who is on a cycle?. Still waiting for a shred of proof about any of your meatball statements. He does not have that dense look that being "on" provides. You can clearly see he is about average bodyfat for a teen. You can also see his mesomorphic traits. Find me a few pics of average 18 year old looking that thick ::)
ALL DRUGS
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lol at 18 years old 8)
He looks natural there. Looks like a football player who works out, has high test levels and a meso frame, and doesn't miss meals.
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has he made any decisions yet?
he said he's gonna stick with creatine because it's better than steroids.
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ALL DRUGS
Gimmick account....
Fag
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he said he's gonna stick with creatine because it's better than steroids.
He's a smart man. I'm glad he realized it's possible to reach 290 at 4% bodyfat without sacrificing ethics.
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Gimmick account....
Fag
Yep it is...
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Could have just been my school lol. Just seemed alot of kids in the area had tried it at one point or another. I think when you are young you are extra delusional hence all these kids blasting sauce at like 17.
In my opinion THAT has a lot to do with why many pros are short.
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In my opinion THAT has a lot to do with why many pros are short.
I don't think so because how many pros can you think of that competed when they were in their teens? Not many teens dream of, or have any desire to be a bodybuilder.
Also, being taller has it's obvious disadvantages when trying to display a muscular, aethstetic physique. It's very hard for a person to be over 6 feet tall and "look" like a bodybuilder.
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remember this, juiced or not jay claims to have benched 315 when he first entered a gym at 16. He also stated his legs were strong as hell and he got it from working on his fathers building sites for years prior. He is very genetically gifted for size so its not too far fetched to think hes natural in that pic
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remember this, juiced or not jay claims to have benched 315 when he first entered a gym at 16.
I don't buy that 315 bench for a second. He struggles ith 405 for reps in his DVD. Very strange that Jay would only add about 90 pounds to his bench press, after 13 years of training, eating, and gear.
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I don't buy that 315 bench for a second. He struggles ith 405 for reps in his DVD. Very strange that Jay would only add about 90 pounds to his bench press, after 13 years of training, eating, and gear.
oooh shut up rob..he benches more than your lame ass and he is bigger than you too...
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oooh shut up rob..he benches more than your lame ass and he is bigger than you too...
True and true.
But that doesn't change that fact that most people will add more than 90 pounds to their bench press from the moment they touch a weight, to the poin where Jay is.
shadow, do ya really believe jay did 315 his first try? Chances are the mags printed that BS and jay just has to play along. A 315 first bench would make him one of the strongest human beings in history.
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True and true.
But that doesn't change that fact that most people will add more than 90 pounds to their bench press from the moment they touch a weight, to the poin where Jay is.
shadow, do ya really believe jay did 315 his first try? Chances are the mags printed that BS and jay just has to play along. A 315 first bench would make him one of the strongest human beings in history.
dude jay himself said that he id 315lbs on the bench..and yes i do believe the mags but i guess not on the first try....maybe jay is lying after 4 months of training he did 315lbs...lol
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dude jay himself said that he id 315lbs on the bench..and yes i do believe the mags but i guess not on the first try....maybe jay is lying after 4 months of training he did 315lbs...lol
Many of the articles you read in muscle mags are ghostwritten by the staff. Bbers will tell you, staff will tell you. Have you seen some of the stuff they credit to Ronnie? it's incredible. Nothing like him in real life.
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Many of the articles you read in muscle mags are ghostwritten by the staff. Bbers will tell you, staff will tell you. Have you seen some of the stuff they credit to Ronnie? it's incredible. Nothing like him in real life.
true that...
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i checked the US college powerlifting records and believe me, even jays 315 when he was 16 is nowhere near these lads numbers
Plus you have to remember, 315 for a single is much different than a depleted Bber benching 405 for reps. I believe his max bench is approx. 525 which is alot more than your 90lb theory
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True and true.
But that doesn't change that fact that most people will add more than 90 pounds to their bench press from the moment they touch a weight, to the poin where Jay is.
shadow, do ya really believe jay did 315 his first try? Chances are the mags printed that BS and jay just has to play along. A 315 first bench would make him one of the strongest human beings in history.
no one does 315 their first try walking into a gym for the first time.
BS
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hahahhahah i don't think the pros have the time to write articles by themselves...
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i checked the US college powerlifting records and believe me, even jays 315 when he was 16 is nowhere near these lads numbers
Plus you have to remember, 315 for a single is much different than a depleted Bber benching 405 for reps. I believe his max bench is approx. 525 which is alot more than your 90lb theory
yep..jays max is 525lbs for a single
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he never said it was his very first set, if you feel strong enough then you try it. Maybe he tried 135 and pissed it, then 225 and pissed it, then 275 etc
Remember the QT claims i posted a while ago - now they were as absurd as you can get. Benching 450 as a young teen, curling 50lb dumbbells at 12 etc. What a joke
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yep..jays max is 525lbs for a single
Even at 525... that means Jay's bench press MAX has only increased 66% from all his years of training, gear, and food. Plus the 100 pound bodyweight gain.
It doesn't make sense. 315 is heavy heavy weight. For an untrained human being to lift that... i don't buy it. You can. But i dont'.
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Even at 525... that means Jay's bench press MAX has only increased 66% from all his years of training, gear, and food. Plus the 100 pound bodyweight gain.
It doesn't make sense. 315 is heavy heavy weight. For an untrained human being to lift that... i don't buy it. You can. But i dont'.
damn rob,you want jay to max at 600lbs...lay of the crack pipe man..he is a bodybuilder and not a powerlifter
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I've got a friend that does 225 and does not lift at all. Why couldnt jay do 315? genetic beast.
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I've got a friend that does 225 and does not lift at all. Why couldnt jay do 315? genetic beast.
If your untrained friend dedicated the next 14 years to bodybuilding, gained 100 pounds of muscle, etc... would you expect him to max out at 375 pounds? (That's what a 66% increase would be).
I'd expect your friend to be a lot stronger after 14 years of BBing.
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everyone is different rob, not everyone can break the 500 plateau even if they juiced and trained their arses off for 20 years. Just because Ronnie has managed to put his strength through the roof, not everyone is the same.
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If your untrained friend dedicated the next 14 years to bodybuilding, gained 100 pounds of muscle, etc... would you expect him to max out at 375 pounds? (That's what a 66% increase would be).
I'd expect your friend to be a lot stronger after 14 years of BBing.
Good point Rob, but Jay is a bodybuilder...not a powerlifter,, Size is the goal here...and not strength.
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The guy is Pro BB size at 22 and people question if he was juicing at 18, oh Brother Monster Delusions ::)
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The guy is Pro BB size at 22 and people question if he was juicing at 18, oh Brother Monster Delusions ::)
Jay always says when he met his wife at 16 he said he wanted to look like the guys on the magazines but he didn't know how at that stage... then he found out and he did what it takes. Does this make him less of a champion, no not really... it just means he was in many people's eyes foolish fucking with the endocrine system at such a young age.
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Jay always says when he met his wife at 16 he said he wanted to look like the guys on the magazines but he didn't know how at that stage... then he found out and he did what it takes. Does this make him less of a champion, no not really... it just means he was in many people's eyes foolish fucking with the endocrine system at such a young age.
I dont care if he juiced or not at a young age, just that its blatently obvious he did, all here are living in a fantasy land if they think 2yrs of drugs got him to the size of him in the first video of this thread.
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look at phil heath, he says hes only been BBing for 3-4 years
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I dont care if he juiced or not at a young age, just that its blatently obvious he did, all here are living in a fantasy land if they think 2yrs of drugs got him to the size of him in the first video of this thread.
Its called nuthuggers :-X
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Jay looked so good. Look at that midsection, it doesn't belong on the Jay Cutler we know. I would really like to look like 22 year old Jay!!!
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what i was told by some guys in Worchester about Jay is that he first started working out at a gym owned by rich warfield(sp)...And he was a major pain in the ass...Asking a ton of questions ect...but the guys liked him...He was kind of a nuicance though...Rich was a neat freak and everyone who trained at his gym had to take their shoes off before entering the gym(LOL)
Funny story about Jay is that he wanted to train legs with some of the guys one day and they took him thru a workout that had him just about puking up...Jay went home and cried to his mother about the pain that he was in...His mother called up the gym to bitch out Rich for doing this to her son....Of course they all just laughed about it...
To think that Jay would end up being one of the biggest guys in the world is amazing...He packed on muscle in a hurry...Questions about him doing steroids early on, well --If he did, he wouldn't have been the only one to do such a thing...