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Title: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: Bast000 on November 18, 2006, 08:33:46 PM
That's what I was told since I didn't read it.  Is that true?
Title: Re: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: alexxx on November 18, 2006, 08:47:26 PM
You can't read?
Title: Re: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: Count Grishnackh on November 18, 2006, 09:32:57 PM
I think L Ron Hubbard and Alistair Crowley wrote it
Title: Re: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: Weez on November 19, 2006, 12:39:31 AM
It's all interpretation. Many Muslims believe that all non Muslims should be killed, and they preach it, and they propagate it.
Title: Re: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: Purge_WTF on November 19, 2006, 01:03:19 AM
That's what I was told since I didn't read it.  Is that true?

  Who told you that? Jerry Falwell? Total dejecta.
Title: Re: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: DK II on November 19, 2006, 03:52:03 AM
the bible says hell, you idiot.

Jews are not exactly christians, and all none christians go to hell. To be exact, all non catholics go to hell.
Title: Re: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: Bast000 on November 19, 2006, 06:14:58 AM
You can't read?

do you have any Jewish friends?  Do they know that you think they are going to hell Alexxx? 
Title: Re: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: alexxx on November 19, 2006, 08:44:49 AM
do you have any Jewish friends?  Do they know that you think they are going to hell Alexxx? 

Not one bit. Jews are the chosen nation. Those jews that accept Christ will be saved. Those who persecute him.. well that's a different story.
Title: Re: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: Bast000 on November 21, 2006, 10:24:47 PM
Not one bit. Jews are the chosen nation. Those jews that accept Christ will be saved. Those who persecute him.. well that's a different story.

Jews don't believe in Jesus Christ though.
Title: Re: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: DK II on November 22, 2006, 12:59:17 PM
Jews don't believe in Jesus Christ though.


and, they don't believe in the church in the first place.
add one and two, and thus, they go to hell.  ;D
Title: Re: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: sandycoosworth on November 22, 2006, 01:34:51 PM
The bible is essentially the oral tradition of der Jews copied down 1000's of years later, mixed in with stories about a dude named jesus that were actually about some other dude who lived 100 years later, with a couple books of some douchebags mushroom trip written down for good measure. Anyone who takes it as anything more than a point of interest should be sterilized :)
Title: Re: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: alexxx on November 22, 2006, 03:38:13 PM
Jews don't believe in Jesus Christ though.

Sure they do.
Title: Re: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: Tre on December 13, 2006, 07:58:07 AM
Jews don't believe in Jesus Christ though.

Jesus was Jewish.
Title: Re: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: Tre on December 13, 2006, 07:59:48 AM

Southern Baptists preach that Jews will not be allowed into heaven. 

They do this today, in 2006. 

And then they wonder why I think they're nuts, even if there is no 'heaven'. 
Title: Re: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: DK II on December 13, 2006, 08:03:04 AM
Southern Baptists preach that Jews will not be allowed into heaven. 

They do this today, in 2006. 

And then they wonder why I think they're nuts, even if there is no 'heaven'. 


oh come on, for a CHRISTIAN, jews can not go to heaven, because they worship the wrong system.

Why would you join christianity if you could go to heaven as a jew??

The whole monotheistic religions are based on excluding other religions, that's what the "mono" means.

Monotheistic religions are crap.
Title: Re: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on December 13, 2006, 08:11:53 AM
The general idea among most Judeo-Christian religious types is that Jews will be first to be taken to heaven at the onset of Armageddon.  Even without accepting Jesus.  Granted any Jew who is a serious sinner and persecutes anyone, Jesus or not, will probably go to hell (according to most).

A lot of evagelicals are decieving in that they claim to support the Jewish people and thier return to Zion but when actually confronted with a Jew they instantly feel that they have to try and convert them.  They even start in with the "even though you're Jewish, unless you accept Jesus as your savior, you will still go to hell."  It certainly doesn't say this in the bible but these people will interpret it any way the feel like.  This arguement is purely a poor attempt to convert one of the hardest religions to convert.

I can't stand evangelicals.

I don't take any testament literally although the lessons learned and stories are valueable.

A I've never seen a Jew ever feel it necassary to shove thier religion in someone elses face.
Title: Re: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: DK II on December 13, 2006, 08:18:23 AM
The general idea among most Judeo-Christian religious types is that Jews will be first to be taken to heaven at the onset of Armageddon.  Even without accepting Jesus.  Granted any Jew who is a serious sinner and persecutes anyone, Jesus or not, will probably go to hell (according to most).

A lot of evagelicals are decieving in that they claim to support the Jewish people and thier return to Zion but when actually confronted with a Jew they instantly feel that they have to try and convert them.  They even start in with the "even though you're Jewish, unless you accept Jesus as your savior, you will still go to hell."  It certainly doesn't say this in the bible but these people will interpret it any way the feel like.  This arguement is purely a poor attempt to convert one of the hardest religions to convert.

I can't stand evangelicals.

I don't take any testament literally although the lessons learned and stories are valueable.

A I've never seen a Jew ever feel it necassary to shove thier religion in someone elses face.

so you're saying you're jewish?
Title: Re: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on December 13, 2006, 08:24:12 AM
so you're saying you're jewish?

I thought everyone already knew this... where the fuck have you been?
Title: Re: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: DK II on December 13, 2006, 08:30:10 AM
I thought everyone already knew this... where the f**k have you been?

oh sorry. i don't read this board regularly.

anyways, so you're mad that you cannot go to the christian heaven??

Let these bitches haver their heaven, i bet the jewish heaven is more fun. Well, you don't get the virgins like in the islamic heaven, but i hope they have enough gym equipment up there so that it doesn't get boring. Heaven is an eternity, and you better hope you get some good movies up there and porn, otherwise it will be a fucking boring eternity full of singing songs and praying every day.

haaha, oh brother, heaven sucks.
Title: Re: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on December 13, 2006, 08:30:58 AM
oh sorry. i don't read this board regularly.

anyways, so you're mad that you cannot go to the christian heaven??

Let these bitches haver their heaven, i bet the jewish heaven is more fun. Well, you don't get the virgins like in the islamic heaven, but i hope they have enough gym equipment up there so that it doesn't get boring. Heaven is an eternity, and you better hope you get some good movies up there and porn, otherwise it will be a fucking boring eternity full of singing songs and praying every day.

haaha, oh brother, heaven sucks.

Not mad... just explaining the sides.  We got our own party goin on up there. 
Title: Re: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: DK II on December 13, 2006, 08:32:55 AM
Not mad... just explaining the sides.  We got our own party goin on up there. 

have fun then.

I'm sure i'll not join any of you, haha.
Title: Re: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: Tre on December 13, 2006, 08:39:56 AM
I've never seen a Jew ever feel it necassary to shove thier religion in someone elses face.

Amen to that.

I love Jews.
Title: Re: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: haider on December 13, 2006, 01:53:13 PM
It's all interpretation. Many Muslims believe that all non Muslims should be killed, and they preach it, and they propagate it.
haha thats some seriously whacked interpretation  ;D
Title: Re: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: Tre on December 13, 2006, 01:57:24 PM
haha thats some seriously whacked interpretation  ;D

Right, yet the media - not even Al-Jazeera - never shows us the millions of Muslims who supposedly denounce the teachings of those 'clerics' who preach violence.   

Where are they? 
Title: Re: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: slacker on December 13, 2006, 04:17:38 PM
That's what I was told since I didn't read it.  Is that true?
it also says you cant go
Title: Re: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: Jeff Miller on December 23, 2006, 03:56:42 AM
Noone can be saved except though Jesus Christ.  That is the Christian belief.  However, one of the greatest themes of the Old Testament is that the Jewish people are God's Chose People.  I think that speaks volumes.  Nowhere else in the Bible is anyone else given the same label.  I think it is entirely likely that the faithful Jews, who do not persecute Christ, get another chance after death to seek salvation.
Title: Re: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: DK II on December 23, 2006, 06:05:13 AM
Noone can be saved except though Jesus Christ.  That is the Christian belief.  However, one of the greatest themes of the Old Testament is that the Jewish people are God's Chose People.  I think that speaks volumes.  Nowhere else in the Bible is anyone else given the same label.  I think it is entirely likely that the faithful Jews, who do not persecute Christ, get another chance after death to seek salvation.

Oohhhh, that is soooo nice of you christians!!

You think you own salvation and that you decide who gets awarded with it and who not. Maybe it's the other way round, and Jesus was only Jahwe's prophet and all of you Jesus-worshipping christians will go to hell because of constantly mocking jews. Ever thought of that?

Idiot.  ;D
Title: Re: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: Jeff Miller on December 23, 2006, 09:20:44 AM
Oohhhh, that is soooo nice of you christians!!

You think you own salvation and that you decide who gets awarded with it and who not. Maybe it's the other way round, and Jesus was only Jahwe's prophet and all of you Jesus-worshipping christians will go to hell because of constantly mocking jews. Ever thought of that?

Idiot.  ;D

I'm not mocking Jews.  I don't know any Christians who do mock Jews.

And yea, it is the Christian belief that Christ "owns salvation".

Care to keep melting down?
Title: Re: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: DK II on December 23, 2006, 01:03:02 PM
haha, i just like to hate a bit against monotheists.

I'm far from melting down.  ;D ;D

I just like to stir up the pot a bit.  ;)
Title: Re: The Bible implies that Jews don't go to Heaven
Post by: Camel Jockey on December 24, 2006, 05:30:03 PM
Right, yet the media - not even Al-Jazeera - never shows us the millions of Muslims who supposedly denounce the teachings of those 'clerics' who preach violence.   

Where are they? 

Go by this forum, haven't you seen toxy and myself diss the shit out of islam and its bullshit? Speaking out in the real world is pretty dangerous. Just like how blacks jumped on Bill Cosby after his comments, it isn't any different with in regards to speaking out against islam.