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Title: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: The Squadfather on November 22, 2006, 07:01:07 AM
do you need drugs to even go to the gym or can you train drug free?
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: dan18 on November 22, 2006, 07:27:23 AM
do you need drugs to even go to the gym or can you train drug free?
Im pretty sure most of us started out drug free ive used in the past its no secret and you do get stronger but it was never overboard usage,Ive been clean for years im pretty strong without gear...its that weird edge you get from it i miss sometimes....what about you
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: The Squadfather on November 22, 2006, 07:28:14 AM
Im pretty sure most of us started out drug free ive used in the past its no secret and you do get stronger but it was never overboard usage,Ive been clean for years im pretty strong without gear...its that weird edge you get from it i miss sometimes....what about you
i did it for a few years as well and i liked it but i train clean now and i love it.
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: SteelePegasus on November 22, 2006, 07:30:22 AM
i did it for a few years as well and i liked it but i train clean now and i love it.

a few years?

ummmm..since you are a 14 y/o school girl. When did you start your first cycle?

just kidding sarcasm, I train naturally, never been "on", I am happy with my modest results

Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: The.Giant on November 22, 2006, 07:33:20 AM
a few years?

ummmm..since you are a 14 y/o school girl. When did you start your first cycle?

Bump to that, sorry sarcasm but breast milk is not an anabolic compound.  ;D

*waits for middle-school level comeback presumably involving The.Giant's mother*

*witty retort, possibly involving pirates*

Glad that's been sorted out.
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: Option D on November 22, 2006, 07:33:43 AM
im strong i guess. never used drugs. But i do need something to recover. Glutamine aint cuttin it no more. I know some drugs help with that
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: GoneAway on November 22, 2006, 07:38:15 AM
I'm weaker on some exercises and stronger on others.
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: dan18 on November 22, 2006, 07:40:00 AM
im strong i guess. never used drugs. But i do need something to recover. Glutamine aint cuttin it no more. I know some drugs help with that
The one thing i miss is always being pumped in the morning afternoon it didnt matter you always felt like you were pumped..
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: Option D on November 22, 2006, 07:43:20 AM
yeah when i go volume i get pumped. I use that noxplode but i dont think i need it. But seriously what gear helps with recovering. Like no DOMS at all
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: tomr1976 on November 22, 2006, 08:01:27 AM
do you need drugs to even go to the gym or can you train drug free?

The resurrection of the ALL DRUGS theme makes me suspect that Adonis is using the "Squadfather" gimmick this morning.

Adam, why do you feel the need to use your thirteen known gimmicks?
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: tomr1976 on November 22, 2006, 08:03:37 AM
i did it for a few years as well and i liked it but i train clean now and i love it.

Well, since it's obvious by now that Abeles is using this gimmick in this thread, I think it's telling that he has FINALLY admitted--albeit, through a gimmick account--that he has experimented with juice...
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: dan18 on November 22, 2006, 08:04:43 AM
The resurrection of the ALL DRUGS theme makes me suspect that Adonis is using the "Squadfather" gimmick this morning.

Adam, why do you feel the need to use your thirteen known gimmicks?
TIP OF THE DAY.....
STFU
ITS ALL IN FUN
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: Van_Bilderass on November 22, 2006, 08:04:50 AM
yeah when i go volume i get pumped. I use that noxplode but i dont think i need it. But seriously what gear helps with recovering. Like no DOMS at all
It doesn't help with DOMS necessarily IME. You do notice that you can handle more volume though, recovery between sets is enhanced dramatically. You can be sore but when you train you may be able to handle high loads regardless. You rarely have very bad workouts where you feel very weak.
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: Delusional Liberal on November 22, 2006, 08:07:37 AM
i trained clean for years.  i stay on 8 months out of the year, and gh year round, slin off and on.  training sucks without gear, it's useless unless you're a newb.
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: tomr1976 on November 22, 2006, 08:09:27 AM
TIP OF THE DAY.....
STFU
ITS ALL IN FUN

Because I'm such a nice guy, I'm going to send you a case of TurtleWax for Christmas.  You know, so you can maintain that sparkling glow on your forehead.  ;D
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: The Squadfather on November 22, 2006, 08:11:31 AM
i trained clean for years.  i stay on 8 months out of the year, and gh year round, slin off and on.  training sucks without gear, it's useless unless you're a newb.
you're exactly the type of weak pusssy i'm talking about.
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: dan18 on November 22, 2006, 08:16:06 AM
Because I'm such a nice guy, I'm going to send you a case of TurtleWax for Christmas.  You know, so you can maintain that sparkling glow on your forehead.  ;D
cheap fuck send me the good stuff or nothing at all ;D I have a show car 56 chevy belair i would never use turtle wax period ......
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: tom joad on November 22, 2006, 08:34:38 AM
do you need drugs to even go to the gym or can you train drug free?

I need an extra large cup of coffee before I go to the gym to train. 
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: Man of Steel on November 22, 2006, 08:35:24 AM
I've never used a bb drug and I've still been able to remain bigger and stronger than the vast majority of juicers out there (with the exception of a few genetic freaks that would outclass me even if I did use).   It's a longer, harder road while training clean, but ultimately more fulfilling as your gains in mass aren't contingent on chemicals.  If I have to layoff of training for an extended period my muscles don't atrophy to nothing because they aren't chemically dependent.   95% of the industry needs the gear to remain competitive so more power to em.   FYI ~ I'm not against those that use; in fact, I could care less...different strokes for different folks.   Fortunately for me I haven't needed them to gain size and strength....I'm sure I could gain more with them but what's the point if I'm not trying to make a competitive living?   I'm already married, been to school, have the career, the material shit, etc.....what would drug use provide me?   I could maybe get "sooper huuuuuge" so I could put on a skin-tight, sleeveless, glitter-shirt and "hit the clubs"?   Already done the club crap as a kid, got the women without the drugs, still bigger and stronger than most sauceheads so there's never been a "need"?  Again, if you choose to use then fine....it just isn't a priority or necessity for me.
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: Bluto on November 22, 2006, 08:38:46 AM
there he goes again, notice how he mentions that he's married first of all things, man of no balls lives up to his name!

but mos is right, using steroids would not make you stronger on getbig, your imaginary lifts you boast about would still be the same  ;D
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: dan18 on November 22, 2006, 08:39:33 AM
I've never used a bb drug and I've still been able to remain bigger and stronger than the vast majority of juicers out there (with the exception of a few genetic freaks that would outclass me even if I did use).   It's a longer, harder road while training clean, but ultimately more fulfilling as your gains in mass aren't contingent on chemicals.  If I have to layoff of training for an extended period my muscles don't atrophy to nothing because they aren't chemically dependent.   95% of the industry needs the gear to remain competitive so more power to em.   FYI ~ I'm not against those that use; in fact, I could care less...different strokes for different folks.   Fortunately for me I haven't needed them to gain size and strength....I'm sure I could gain more with them but what's the point if I'm not trying to make a competitive living?   I'm already married, been to school, have the career, the material shit, etc.....what would drug use provide me?   I could maybe get "sooper huuuuuge" so I could put on a skin-tight, sleeveless, glitter-shirt and "hit the clubs"?   Already done the club crap as a kid, got the women without the drugs, still bigger and stronger than most sauceheads so there's never been a "need"?  Again, if you choose to use then fine....it just isn't a priority or necessity for me.
well said but not every one who uses ''not pros'' is all jacked on the shit some use moderate amounts hard gainers go on for 2 months or so just for a push..
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: rccs on November 22, 2006, 08:43:46 AM
I need an extra large cup of coffee before I go to the gym to train. 
That would probably kill me  :o
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: the shadow on November 22, 2006, 08:45:58 AM
do you need drugs to even go to the gym or can you train drug free?
nothing better than working out natural..its lasts forever..
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: JasonH on November 22, 2006, 09:54:43 AM
nothing better than working out natural..its lasts forever..

Pretty much true - whenever I stop training or take a break I always hang onto the gains I made when I was natural. I trained from the age of 15 to the age of 24 without ever touching gear and I made some excellent gains.
Using gear did get me bigger and much stronger but with those gains I became lazier and took the gains for granted and as a result I no longer work as hard in the gym as when I was a teenager. I'm pretty disgusted with myself for that really.
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: Man of Steel on November 22, 2006, 10:31:47 AM
well said but not every one who uses ''not pros'' is all jacked on the shit some use moderate amounts hard gainers go on for 2 months or so just for a push..

You're right....like I said I have nothing against those that use.....I'm just happy with my progress without it.
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: toolarge4u on November 22, 2006, 10:41:48 AM
do you need drugs to even go to the gym or can you train drug free?
i enjoy training clean waaaaayyyy better, being on sucks for me.
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: NJ_Slinky on November 22, 2006, 10:47:55 AM
Although it's been 15 years since I started, I've made some gains  ;D  Drug free for life.
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: beatmaster on November 22, 2006, 11:58:41 AM

yeah i feel so good using those super sups, like cell tech and nitro tech and .... and... what.... you mean it's worthless, man i got f*ck again, can't trust those big guy at the gym!!!

 ;D
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: HERACLES on November 22, 2006, 12:05:22 PM
Im weak considering lbs moved by most gym peeps, but if I was on the sause that would be different.

Its pretty pathetic when Im excited that I rep the 60lb dumbells on the seated dumbell curls!  :'(...... But its an accomplishment for someone like me.... 8)

I dont worry about lifting heavy lbs, i just go by how I feel, if I feel strong on a day ill try to push the lbs, like on some shoulder days ill go up to 100s on the dumbell presses for 6 reps, but thats some days, usually ill work up to 90s..

When your a natty it doesnt matter really..its more about dieting and getting in great shape...moving super heavy weights is just asking for injuries if your natty/clean...imho...
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: Option D on November 22, 2006, 12:13:29 PM
i cant all the way disagree. because i have never been on the sauce but Im natty and if i dont go heavy i dont get gains. When i go heavy i blow up. Serious. The only thing is that my shoulders give out and im sore for longer.
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: Man of Steel on November 22, 2006, 12:20:33 PM
I just like knowing that everything I've accomplished in the gym is because of my effort and nothing else.
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: SS on November 22, 2006, 02:55:51 PM
big_mal try snoting no-xplode.........amazing pumps
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: HERACLES on November 22, 2006, 06:24:24 PM
big_mal try snoting no-xplode.........amazing pumps

I bought that stuff..I only use it now on leg days...keeps my body from adapting to it, and it last much longer!!  8)
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: Mobil on November 22, 2006, 07:39:20 PM
"theres only one side effect of steroids..... being Godlike"
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: Bast000 on November 22, 2006, 07:39:52 PM
"theres only one side effect of steroids..... being Godlike"

who said that
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: G.R.H. on November 22, 2006, 07:43:12 PM
sometimes i slam some creatine or protein shake before i lift. i like "showing up" the bigger dudes by lifting as much as they do, and being 1/2 their size. (IT PISSES THEM OF BIG TIME!)   ;D
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: xpac2 on November 22, 2006, 07:44:36 PM
Im pretty sure most of us started out drug free ive used in the past its no secret and you do get stronger but it was never overboard usage,Ive been clean for years im pretty strong without gear...its that weird edge you get from it i miss sometimes....what about you

Seriously though, how much GH did you run to get your forehead that big?
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: Mobil on November 22, 2006, 07:46:47 PM
who said that

marge simpson, the episode when she wanted to be a bodybuilder
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: xpac2 on November 22, 2006, 07:51:23 PM
marge simpson, the episode when she wanted to be a bodybuilder

actually the quote is
"The only side effect is....Greatness!"
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: Mobil on November 22, 2006, 07:57:53 PM
actually the quote is
"The only side effect is....Greatness!"

ya your right.. forgot the exact words.
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: student on November 22, 2006, 08:08:53 PM
I'm drug free but I'm not as strong as I'd like to be.
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: Debussey on November 22, 2006, 08:19:42 PM
yeah when i go volume i get pumped. I use that noxplode but i dont think i need it. But seriously what gear helps with recovering. Like no DOMS at all

You seem like a smart kid, and you have got a good physique. Screw the roids, and intensify your efforts at medschool.
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: Alex23 on November 22, 2006, 08:57:31 PM
I usually have a sixer right before training.
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: Delusional Liberal on November 22, 2006, 09:16:56 PM
you're exactly the type of weak pusssy i'm talking about.
ok, after your first few years natty training, have fun with the massive 1lb every 6 months gains and retaining shit for size when dieted down.  training natural is useless for bbers with experience.
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: Meltdown on November 22, 2006, 10:59:06 PM
No. ;D
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: Croatch on November 22, 2006, 11:15:00 PM
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ok, after your first few years natty training, have fun with the massive 1lb every 6 months gains and retaining shit for size when dieted down.  training natural is useless for bbers with experience.
Maybe for yourself.  I put on a good 5lbs a year for the past 4 years natural.  Plus 40lbs the first year back.  Maybe you just don't train that hard or diet that well.  Never underestimate the power of dieting.  It takes some time, but in then end it's all you, nothing else.  Plus, you can post on getbig.com about being natural and rank on 2nd rate juicers.  Then have people tell you, they don't give a fuck and to shut up.  It's awesome! ;D
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: student on November 23, 2006, 12:04:14 PM
Maybe for yourself.  I put on a good 5lbs a year for the past 4 years natural.  Plus 40lbs the first year back.  Maybe you just don't train that hard or diet that well.  Never underestimate the power of dieting.  It takes some time, but in then end it's all you, nothing else.  Plus, you can post on getbig.com about being natural and rank on 2nd rate juicers.  Then have people tell you, they don't give a f**k and to shut up.  It's awesome! ;D
I don't give a fuck, shut up.
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: Delusional Liberal on November 23, 2006, 12:15:12 PM
Maybe for yourself.  I put on a good 5lbs a year for the past 4 years natural.  Plus 40lbs the first year back.  Maybe you just don't train that hard or diet that well.  Never underestimate the power of dieting.  It takes some time, but in then end it's all you, nothing else.  Plus, you can post on getbig.com about being natural and rank on 2nd rate juicers.  Then have people tell you, they don't give a f**k and to shut up.  It's awesome! ;D
you can only take it so far naturally, people would always ask if i was on steroids when i was natural, i'm a pure mesomorph.  i know how to train, eat.  you'll never get a freaky physique naturally, it's waste of time past the first 3-5 years if your goal is to get big as possible.

oh and as a 'natural', in the end it's not 'all you', because when you stop eating alot, or stop training, you will lose most of what you gained.
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: bigmc on November 23, 2006, 12:20:12 PM
Im pretty sure most of us started out drug free ive used in the past its no secret and you do get stronger but it was never overboard usage,Ive been clean for years im pretty strong without gear...its that weird edge you get from it i miss sometimes....what about you

you always claimed to be a lifetime natural

explains the palumboism of the forehead

we should call you mr inconsistent anything to fit in
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: gibberj2 on November 23, 2006, 12:22:46 PM
sarcasm you idiot you dont even know what to talk about any more. stop contradicting yourself every few months when you think people have forgotten how stupid you are. say you have never used drugs... just try
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: jwb on November 23, 2006, 12:57:02 PM
Im weak considering lbs moved by most gym peeps, but if I was on the sause that would be different.

Its pretty pathetic when Im excited that I rep the 60lb dumbells on the seated dumbell curls!  :'(...... But its an accomplishment for someone like me.... 8)

I dont worry about lifting heavy lbs, i just go by how I feel, if I feel strong on a day ill try to push the lbs, like on some shoulder days ill go up to 100s on the dumbell presses for 6 reps, but thats some days, usually ill work up to 90s..

When your a natty it doesnt matter really..its more about dieting and getting in great shape...moving super heavy weights is just asking for injuries if your natty/clean...imho...
shit arnold only used the 50's for alternate curls and 65's for flyes!

people never realized the dumbbells at golds 1 were made up from 7.5 and not 10lb plates...
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: Devon97 on November 23, 2006, 01:25:29 PM
Maybe for yourself.  I put on a good 5lbs a year for the past 4 years natural.  Plus 40lbs the first year back.  Maybe you just don't train that hard or diet that well.  Never underestimate the power of dieting.  It takes some time, but in then end it's all you, nothing else.  Plus, you can post on getbig.com about being natural and rank on 2nd rate juicers.  Then have people tell you, they don't give a f**k and to shut up.  It's awesome! ;D

Does your workout partner juice? If so what do u think he would be/look like... if he took a vow to the drug free lifestyle?
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: warrior_code on November 23, 2006, 01:45:14 PM
it is very hard to lose muscle when it is put on naturally, at least through my experiences.  I have seen juicers blow up and then shrink to nothing in a few months when they are off.  Me I can skip 3-4 weeks of training and eat shit and still be as strong and not lose anything noticeble.  That is the difference, chemically enhanced muscle is almost fake it seems. 
Title: Re: Are you weak??????????????????????
Post by: Croatch on November 23, 2006, 03:17:27 PM
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Does your workout partner juice? If so what do u think he would be/look like... if he took a vow to the drug free lifestyle?
No workout partner.  Chances are, he wouldn't do as well because most people can't diet or not drink year round.