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What are respectable lifts for a natural?
Bench press
Military
squat
Deadlift.
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What are respectable lifts for a natural?
Bench press
Military
squat
Deadlift.
whats your or "your friends" weight/age/height (height isnt really as important)... time training
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whats your or "your friends" weight/age/height (height isnt really as important)... time training
28. three years training . Around 225, not in the greatest shape . Just looking for some motivation, something to shoot for in the next year or so. Something realistic.
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What are respectable lifts for a natural?
Bench press-Twice your bodyweight for 6 reps
Military- bodyweight for 6 reps
squat - two and a half times your bodyweight for 6 reps
Deadlift.- two and a half times your bodyweight for 6 reps
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28. three years training . Around 225, not in the greatest shape . Just looking for some motivation, something to shoot for in the next year or so. Something realistic.
ok what are your lifts now, if u want something to shoot for and your 1repmax on flatbench is 200, 495 is kinda unrealistic...
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ok what are your lifts now, if u want something to shoot for and your 1repmax on flatbench is 200, 495 is kinda unrealistic...
Bench 305
Military 180 for about 7
Squat 335 for 10 ( close to parallel, need to work on my form )
Deadlift 405. Really tough .
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What are respectable lifts for a natural?
Bench press-Twice your bodyweight for 6 reps
Military- bodyweight for 6 reps
squat - two and a half times your bodyweight for 6 reps
Deadlift.- two and a half times your bodyweight for 6 reps
I agree.
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135 bench
185 squat
225 deadlift
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135 bench
185 squat
225 deadlift
good lifts brian ;D
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What are respectable lifts for a natural?
Bench press-Twice your bodyweight for 6 reps
Military- bodyweight for 6 reps
squat - two and a half times your bodyweight for 6 reps
Deadlift.- two and a half times your bodyweight for 6 reps
Except for the military presses, them are some pretty big lifts for a natural. :-\
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Except for the military presses, them are some pretty big lifts for a natural. :-\
those are big lifts for anyone, juiced or not.
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those are big lifts for anyone, juiced or not.
Agree.
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Except for the military presses, them are some pretty big lifts for a natural. :-\
so a 200lbs guy should be doing 405 for 6 reps naturally? I don't know about that, that is a big number
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I thought he said 200# X 6 reps for military presses. Bodyweight which seems like a good lift.
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What are respectable lifts for a natural?
Bench press-Twice your bodyweight for 6 reps
that's ridiculous
so a 200lbs natural should do 400 for 6 reps ::)
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that's ridiculous
so a 200lbs natural should do 400 for 6 reps ::)
exactly, shit that's damn good weight for someone on drugs.
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Should be more like 1 rep instead of 6.
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What are respectable lifts for a natural?
Bench press-Twice your bodyweight for 6 reps
Military- bodyweight for 6 reps
squat - two and a half times your bodyweight for 6 reps
Deadlift.- two and a half times your bodyweight for 6 reps
there is no way in hell I'll touch those numbers. If you can do it more power to you. I asked for respectable not legendary.
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flexingtonsteele is delusional as fuck
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there are no pros who can even bench twice their bodyweight for 6 reps.
other than that the other numbers seem achievable.
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there are no pros who can even bench twice their bodyweight for 6 reps.
other than that the other numbers seem achievable.
I think Eric Bui (sp) could.
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1 featured dancer at Crazy Horse Too without coke and gifts 8)
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225 mil.
315 bp
405 squat
495 dl
sumfin like that...
peace
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those are big lifts for anyone, juiced or not.
I agree... :o
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Except for the military presses, them are some pretty big lifts for a natural. :-\
Those lifts would be VERY respectable for anyone, natural or not. I work with some football players, college and high school, that are 210-255 and very natural. Of course they aren't very lean or muscular on a bodybuilding level, but they're ball players. No way any of them could do 2 times b/w for 6 good reps...that would be 420-510...Also the military numbers are way off as well. To legit military b/w for 6 (for a big guy, not a 160 pound gymnast) is very impressive.
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that's a very insecure question. do you only care about what others think? is that why you work out?
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What are respectable lifts for a natural?
Bench press-Twice your bodyweight for 6 reps
Military- bodyweight for 6 reps
squat - two and a half times your bodyweight for 6 reps
Deadlift.- two and a half times your bodyweight for 6 reps
i don't think this is realistic at all for a natural. If someone could do that it would be a lot more than "respectable", more like "omfg you are an animal"
(Body Weight, Bench, Squats & Deads)
140 280 350
150 300 375
160 320 400
170 340 425
180 360 450
190 380 475
200 400 500
210 420 525
220 440 550
230 460 575
240 480 600
250 500 625
260 520 650
270 540 675
280 560 700
290 580 725
300 600 750
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Bench 305
Military 180 for about 7
Squat 335 for 10 ( close to parallel, need to work on my form )
Deadlift 405. Really tough .
Yes this is very respectable/immpressive for a natty no matter weight - that other shyt 450-500lb benches is GREAT for a natty but the standard here on getbig ::)
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those are big lifts for anyone, juiced or not.
This is getbig...everyone is STRONG...whether they workout or not.
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This is getbig...everyone is STRONG...whether they workout or not.
Haha - very true - on Getbig people add about 30% to their "max lifts". :)
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that's a very insecure question. do you only care about what others think? is that why you work out?
Insecurity is the reason why everyone starts lifting.
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Insecurity is the reason why everyone starts lifting.
Oh brother ::)
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that's a very insecure question. do you only care about what others think? is that why you work out?
translation= you bench 145, squat 165 and deadlift 185.
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there are no pros who can even bench twice their bodyweight for 6 reps.
other than that the other numbers seem achievable.
i have
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Haha - very true - on Getbig people add about 30% to their "max lifts". :)
30% would be a very conservative estimate in my opinion.I am sure there are plenty of strong dudes here,but they are probably not the ones bragging about their lifts.I don't believe most of claims I read here.
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What are respectable lifts for a natural?
Bench press-Twice your bodyweight for 6 reps
Military- bodyweight for 6 reps
squat - two and a half times your bodyweight for 6 reps
Deadlift.- two and a half times your bodyweight for 6 reps
you gotta be shittin me- no fuckin way!
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225 mil.
315 bp
405 squat
495 dl
sumfin like that...
peace
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I pretty much agree.
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cant bench my twice my bodyweight for 6 reps...
done it for 2
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I think if you can do 150 % of your body weight on the bench that is at least respectable.
Twice your weight for reps in the squat and dead isn't too bad either. I am not talking prwer lifters just your average guy.
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Oh brother ::)
yawn
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What are respectable lifts for a natural?
Bench press-Twice your bodyweight for 6 reps
Military- bodyweight for 6 reps
squat - two and a half times your bodyweight for 6 reps
Deadlift.- two and a half times your bodyweight for 6 reps
Respectable is a relative term and your measures for respectable lifts apply to competitors not Joe Blows that casually lift and eat Hot Pockets and beer 6 times a week.
Not that there's anything wrong with Hot Pockets and beer.
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What are respectable lifts for a natural?
Bench press
Military
squat
Deadlift.
Maxing .... me
315 for 3
225 for 2
405 for 3
455 for 3
20 chin ups
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Ok guys, with my recommendations I would say the Millitary Press is definetely doable.......I weight 190lbs TOTALLY natural, and I can go bodyweight for 3 reps.......I'm 23 so its no big feat to do bodyweight for 6 reps on a Millitary......And by no means am I a super strong guy.
With the bench press........It should be Bodyweight x 1.5 for 6 reps.......I messed up and said x2........But by no means is bodyweight x 1.5 for 6 reps a super big bench........But I guarantee if you can bench your bodyweight times one and a half for 6 reps and you are natural, you will be one respectable MOFO in the gym. An example for me is 285 for 6 reps...........thats doable right guys???
For the bench and dead, there is no reason you shouldnt be able to do 2.5 x's your bodyweight for six.......For me (190 lbs) that would be a 475lbs bench and dead..........which is no very much at all.....your dead should definetely be there, and your squat should follow soon after!........I have a 405lbs deadlift for 3.......so I'm almost there.......so its not a big deal guys........
What I was saying is, if you can hit these numbers you will definetely be one of the bigger guys in the gym..........and when anyone ask you how much do u bench, u can say your numbers with no fear. !!!!
I'm 23, natural as fuck, with 14% bodyfat, and I am almost hitting these numbers.......These are definetely BIG numbers, but they are definetely doable as well.......
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cant bench my twice my bodyweight for 6 reps...
done it for 2
Where is that video I told you to post 5 months ago when you where lying about your arms being 19 inches cold.
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I think if you can do 150 % of your body weight on the bench that is at least respectable.
Twice your weight for reps in the squat and dead isn't too bad either. I am not talking prwer lifters just your average guy.
Exactly man, if you cant do this, your a bonafide PUSS!!
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Ok guys, with my recommendations I would say the Millitary Press is definetely doable.......I weight 190lbs TOTALLY natural, and I can go bodyweight for 3 reps.......I'm 23 so its no big feat to do bodyweight for 6 reps on a Millitary......And by no means am I a super strong guy.
With the bench press........It should be Bodyweight x 1.5 for 6 reps.......I messed up and said x2........But by no means is bodyweight x 1.5 for 6 reps a super big bench........But I guarantee if you can bench your bodyweight times one and a half for 6 reps and you are natural, you will be one respectable MOFO in the gym. An example for me is 285 for 6 reps...........thats doable right guys???
For the bench and dead, there is no reason you shouldnt be able to do 2.5 x's your bodyweight for six.......For me (190 lbs) that would be a 475lbs bench and dead..........which is no very much at all.....your dead should definetely be there, and your squat should follow soon after!........I have a 405lbs deadlift for 3.......so I'm almost there.......so its not a big deal guys........
What I was saying is, if you can hit these numbers you will definetely be one of the bigger guys in the gym..........and when anyone ask you how much do u bench, u can say your numbers with no fear. !!!!
I'm 23, natural as f**k, with 14% bodyfat, and I am almost hitting these numbers.......These are definetely BIG numbers, but they are definetely doable as well.......
ok, your clueless.... if you dead 405 for three... your NO WHERE near pulling 475 for six... sorry.... and i notice how you dont mention your squat... squating 475 for six is insane, for anyone.... maybe you train a average joes somewhere in nowhereland... but i train at a top 10 gym in the nation, with plenty of pro BB's and powerlifters who train there on thr reg.... i can count on one hand the number of times ive seen guys squating 500lbs for reps, let alone 6 reps.... plus those guys had to be close to 260
sorry, but your full of shit
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Exactly man, if you cant do this, your a bonafide PUSS!!
your problem is you think that 1 rep is "really close to 6) and that 150% of your bodyweight is nearly the same as 200%... or the same as 250%.. ahah
i want the video that shows YOU, a 190lb guy squat 475 for 6...
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lol, dude this is the internet. Everyone here squats 550x6. Even TA with his pencil legs hits a smooth 450x8 once a week. ::)
hehe.
hahaha, thats true, but TA's a god... i mean the guy pulls 225 for 113 reps.... 113 reps!...
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ok every varies but lets say for a 32 yr old man average height and average proportions (i think you are asking in general) at 195lbs relatively lean
bench press 330lbs
squat 400lbs to parallel
dead 500lbs no wraps
military press- b/w strict.
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this thread is pointless. is it all about ego? do you need others to tell you what is respectable? if you can't bench 330 you deserve no respect? people should measure themselves compared to their past progress
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At my gym if you bench a plate per side, they throw you a party. I think one guy did it back in the 70's, but, I am pretty sure he was on gear. Natty I am not sure, but I think 25's on the bar for any of those lifts and you are in the top 1% of all bodybuilders. Natural of course. For juicers maybe the 35's.
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Take off 100lb from most of these lifts and you might be closer. ::)
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this thread is pointless. is it all about ego? do you need others to tell you what is respectable? if you can't bench 330 you deserve no respect? people should measure themselves compared to their past progress
It is about ego a little bit I suppose. Having a number in my head may in some small way give me more motivation.
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Dude I'm pulling 405 for 3 (sumo style), so what i'm saying is sooner or later one day ill be pulling 475 for six, its no way out of reach. My squat is 365 for 10 (parallel).......i never squat for less than 10 reps so i dont know what is other than that. So im not close to my "respectable" range now am I. What I'm saying is dude, these are numbers that if you tell anyone, they are nothing to sniff at. These are the biggest guy in the gym type numbers. I'm not saying what I can do, but what would be good numbers for an elite natural trainee......
Its not my fault your a huge puss man, your probably 220 with 18 percent bodyfat, you walk around with your chest stuck out w/your wrist wraps, and leather weight lifting belt on, wrapped up in your sweats at the gym, grunting and screaming while you bench the same measly 3 plates for 3 reps week in and week out, but u would get laughed at on the beach, because you look like crap??? Am I anywhere close???
ok, your clueless.... if you dead 405 for three... your NO WHERE near pulling 475 for six... sorry.... and i notice how you dont mention your squat... squating 475 for six is insane, for anyone.... maybe you train a average joes somewhere in nowhereland... but i train at a top 10 gym in the nation, with plenty of pro BB's and powerlifters who train there on thr reg.... i can count on one hand the number of times ive seen guys squating 500lbs for reps, let alone 6 reps.... plus those guys had to be close to 260
sorry, but your full of shit
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Dude I'm pulling 405 for 3 (sumo style), so what i'm saying is sooner or later one day ill be pulling 475 for six, its no way out of reach. My squat is 365 for 10 (parallel).......i never squat for less than 10 reps so i dont know what is other than that. So im not close to my "respectable" range now am I. What I'm saying is dude, these are numbers that if you tell anyone, they are nothing to sniff at. These are the biggest guy in the gym type numbers. I'm not saying what I can do, but what would be good numbers for an elite natural trainee......
Its not my fault your a huge puss man, your probably 220 with 18 percent bodyfat, you walk around with your chest stuck out w/your wrist wraps, and leather weight lifting belt on, wrapped up in your sweats at the gym, grunting and screaming while you bench the same measly 3 plates for 3 reps week in and week out, but u would get laughed at on the beach, because you look like crap??? Am I anywhere close???
405 for 3 sumo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my God, you're a beast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dude I'm pulling 405 for 3 (sumo style), so what i'm saying is sooner or later one day ill be pulling 475 for six, its no way out of reach. My squat is 365 for 10 (parallel).......i never squat for less than 10 reps so i dont know what is other than that. So im not close to my "respectable" range now am I. What I'm saying is dude, these are numbers that if you tell anyone, they are nothing to sniff at. These are the biggest guy in the gym type numbers. I'm not saying what I can do, but what would be good numbers for an elite natural trainee......
Its not my fault your a huge puss man, your probably 220 with 18 percent bodyfat, you walk around with your chest stuck out w/your wrist wraps, and leather weight lifting belt on, wrapped up in your sweats at the gym, grunting and screaming while you bench the same measly 3 plates for 3 reps week in and week out, but u would get laughed at on the beach, because you look like crap??? Am I anywhere close???
so your lifts aren't respectable according to you.
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so your lifts aren't respectable according to you.
exactly... this guy went from "being sooooo close to deadlifting 475 for 6" to ...
Dude I'm pulling 405 for 3 (sumo style), so what i'm saying is sooner or later one day ill be pulling 475 for six,
sumo style please...
and this is where he melts down
Its not my fault your a huge puss man, your probably 220 with 18 percent bodyfat, you walk around with your chest stuck out w/your wrist wraps, and leather weight lifting belt on, wrapped up in your sweats at the gym, grunting and screaming while you bench the same measly 3 plates for 3 reps week in and week out, but u would get laughed at on the beach, because you look like crap??? Am I anywhere close???
i hold a natural 6.5% bodyfat, always have... ;)
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Dude I'm pulling 405 for 3 (sumo style), so what i'm saying is sooner or later one day ill be pulling 475 for six, its no way out of reach. My squat is 365 for 10 (parallel).......i never squat for less than 10 reps so i dont know what is other than that. So im not close to my "respectable" range now am I. What I'm saying is dude, these are numbers that if you tell anyone, they are nothing to sniff at. These are the biggest guy in the gym type numbers. I'm not saying what I can do, but what would be good numbers for an elite natural trainee......
Its not my fault your a huge puss man, your probably 220 with 18 percent bodyfat, you walk around with your chest stuck out w/your wrist wraps, and leather weight lifting belt on, wrapped up in your sweats at the gym, grunting and screaming while you bench the same measly 3 plates for 3 reps week in and week out, but u would get laughed at on the beach, because you look like crap??? Am I anywhere close???
hahahahahahahahah, MELTDOWN. You're so full of shit it's sad.
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so your lifts aren't respectable according to you.
exactly, i never said they were. I was just saying what respectable was
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exactly... this guy went from "being sooooo close to deadlifting 475 for 6" to ...
sumo style please...
and this is where he melts down
i hold a natural 6.5% bodyfat, always have... ;)
sweet bro, 6.5 @ 145lbs isnt bad bro, keep it up.
And sumo deads are a shorter range of motion than conventional deads therefore if you practice them u should be able to pull more that way.
But u hold 6.5% all year long, so you should know that.
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ok every varies but lets say for a 32 yr old man average height and average proportions (i think you are asking in general) at 195lbs relatively lean
bench press 330lbs
squat 400lbs to parallel
dead 500lbs no wraps
military press- b/w strict.
That sounds about right to me.
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sweet bro, 6.5 @ 145lbs isnt bad bro, keep it up.
And sumo deads are a shorter range of motion than conventional deads therefore if you practice them u should be able to pull more that way.
But u hold 6.5% all year long, so you should know that.
melting.....
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melting.....
LOL...........dude ive already melted down, monster meltdown of epic proportions!!!!!!!!!!!.
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OK guys fill me in. I know what sumo dead kifts are,but have never done them. Do most people pull more weight that way or less? or about the same?
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OK guys fill me in. I know what sumo dead kifts are,but have never done them. Do most people pull more weight that way or less? or about the same?
Your feet are wider apart, so the range of motion is shorter........Therefore it is easier
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Your feet are wider apart, so the range of motion is shorter........Therefore it is easier
The "easier" part isn't necessarily true. It depends on your body type and relative strengths. Some people can pull more conventional than sumo and the other way around. If your statement were accurate ALL powerlifters would pull sumo and they do not.
Chris
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The "easier" part isn't necessarily true. It depends on your body type and relative strengths. Some people can pull more conventional than sumo and the other way around. If your statement were accurate ALL powerlifters would pull sumo and they do not.
Chris
EXACTLY, so many factors involved, height, joint size, coordination... i wuld however say that the traditional method is usually prefered by and for bodybuilders... in fact it always amazed me at how narrow JOJ's sance is when he pulls... maybe 10 inches apart.... in the end it all has to do with individual power and comfort