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Title: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: efirkey on November 29, 2006, 04:36:14 AM
Serge Nubret.  How could this guy not have won an Olympia, but Frank Zane won three?
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: Naked4Jesus on November 29, 2006, 04:40:27 AM
Serge Nubret.  How could this guy not have won an Olympia, but Frank Zane won three?

We'll never have a French Olympian, it's too damn unamerican!  Frank Zane had much better side burns anyhow so don't bring Frank into this!
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: GoneAway on November 29, 2006, 04:45:03 AM
Flawless front upperbody. Legs were just too small and underdeveloped most of the time to match his upper, plus his posing didn't seem that great (see: pic of Arnold, Sergio and Nubret hitting front lat spread at 70 or 71 O).

Can someone post contest pics of some Nubret back poses?
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: natural al on November 29, 2006, 04:51:30 AM
awsome physique, incredible abs...really he should have won a couple.
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: Army of One on November 29, 2006, 06:06:42 AM
WHITEY KEEPING THE BLACKMAN DOWN.
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: pumpster on November 29, 2006, 06:17:47 AM
Serge Nubret.  How could this guy not have won an Olympia, but Frank Zane won three?

The idea of Zane winning and Nubret, Robinson and others never winning is a joke. Even with some weaknesses, Nubret beat Zane & anyone else on aesthetics, and had a lot more size.

How didn't he win? Like many other greats of his era:


WEIDER POLITICS
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: Bluto on November 29, 2006, 06:32:07 AM
weider is the man, dont ever question him  >:(
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: chainsaw on November 29, 2006, 06:52:38 AM
Kelly Ryan has bigger and more defined legs than him.  Looks great upper body though.
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: ether on November 29, 2006, 06:54:43 AM
No, this guy is.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=69359.0;attach=123116;image)
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: crownshep on November 29, 2006, 06:55:31 AM
So who`s gonna tell me what year Zane won an Olympia that Nubret was entered in.By the time Zane won his first ,Nubret was getting beat by Tony Emmott in Nabba universe shows.
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: Old_Rooster on November 29, 2006, 07:01:14 AM
awsome physique, incredible abs...really he should have won a couple.

Yes, he would have had a better chance if he had a distended belly like todays top pro's.
I'm sick of the biggest winning with guts that look as if they were pregnant.  I'd have awarded at least 3 if not 4
olympia titles to Shawn Ray or Lee Priest, those two would have been battling it out every year in my opinion.

It just seems the person that wins is the person that has the guts to take more gear than anybody else.  Its no longer
about having the best looking physique, its about being humongous and thats why bodybuilding is looked upon as a joke sport these days.
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: fathead on November 29, 2006, 07:04:09 AM
He's much better than that hippie Zane. I realy don't get how he won 3
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: Special Ed on November 29, 2006, 07:50:29 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=109484.0;attach=123209;image)
How on Earth did Serge build that back without Hammer Strength Lat machines and creatine supplements???

Utterly baffling!!!

Special "Pumps Gym Chicago...Endorsed by Serge Nubret" Ed
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: Option D on November 29, 2006, 08:12:37 AM
yeah he is a absolute definiation of a bodybuilder should be.
Look at the orgin and insertion of his pecs. His chest is huge. His waist is tiny. Looks like a super hero
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: rccs on November 29, 2006, 08:34:12 AM
yeah he is a absolute definiation of a bodybuilder should be.
Look at the orgin and insertion of his pecs. His chest is huge. His waist is tiny. Looks like a super hero
How old was he on these pics?
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: Option D on November 29, 2006, 09:35:58 AM
damn near 40 or 41
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: getfast81 on November 29, 2006, 09:39:29 AM
The more I think about it, Phil Heath reminds me more of Serge Nubret than anyone else.  Just my opinion.  Serge Nubret was and is massively underrated.
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: Dipadidu on November 29, 2006, 09:53:44 AM
damn near 40 or 41
+your age
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: Option D on November 29, 2006, 09:59:33 AM
+your age
24
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: bmacsys on November 29, 2006, 10:01:57 AM
So who`s gonna tell me what year Zane won an Olympia that Nubret was entered in.By the time Zane won his first ,Nubret was getting beat by Tony Emmott in Nabba universe shows.

Good point. Tony Emmot had terrible gyno.
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: bmacsys on November 29, 2006, 10:03:37 AM
So who`s gonna tell me what year Zane won an Olympia that Nubret was entered in.By the time Zane won his first ,Nubret was getting beat by Tony Emmott in Nabba universe shows.

Crownshep, what if say the 1975 Nubret got on stage with the 1977 thru 1979 Zane? How do you see that stacking up?
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: dantelis on November 29, 2006, 10:04:17 AM
He probably would have won had he not competed in the Olympia during Arnold's reign.  According to his competition stats in musclememory (http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?s=nubret&g=M (http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?s=nubret&g=M))looks like he jumped ship from the IFBB after his 2nd place Olympia finish to Arnold in 1975.  Had he stayed with the IFBB and kept the condition he had in previous Olympias, he would most likely have won at least one (though probably more) Olympia titles.  He certainly had a body better than Columbu (1976 Olympia winner) and at least as good as Zane (1977-1979 Olympia winner).

Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: Dipadidu on November 29, 2006, 10:08:50 AM
24

Pretty nice for a 64 years old man, isn't it  :o
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: Sir William Idol on November 29, 2006, 10:24:43 AM
want he 40 in pumping iron? those last photos look more recent that 1976
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: crownshep on November 30, 2006, 04:06:55 AM
Crownshep, what if say the 1975 Nubret got on stage with the 1977 thru 1979 Zane? How do you see that stacking up?

Thats one of the many "what if" questions.Here`s a shot of Serge against Emmott in the NABBA Universe,in this condition Zane would have beat him in 77,78 and 79.But i think if Serge would have entered the 76 in the condition he was in,in 1975 ,he would have beat Franco.Thats why its pointless when people say Zane should never have won an Olympia but Serge,Robby,Bertil should have,Zane beat the people onstage THAT DAY,in THAT CONDITION.Imagine the 81 Olympia with Bertil and Sergio competing in the condition they had at the WABBA World that year.
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: pumpster on November 30, 2006, 05:08:01 AM
if Serge would have entered the 76 in the condition he was in,in 1975 ,he would have beat Franco.Thats why its pointless when people say Zane should never have won an Olympia but Serge,Robby,Bertil should have,Zane beat the people onstage THAT DAY,in THAT CONDITION.Imagine the 81 Olympia with Bertil and Sergio competing in the condition they had at the WABBA World that year.

Actually that just reinforces the continued naivete exercised here on getbig. The failure here to put two and two together is striking. 1981 Fox & Oliva were also out of the Olympia for political reasons, as Nubret was.
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: BEAST 8692 on November 30, 2006, 05:59:19 AM
nubret had an awesome physique but in most ifbb comps, for whatever reason, he looked a bit flat.

prime zane smokes him in condition, symetry and balance.

nubret looked good in photos but was no mr o come competition time. to suggest such is to demonstrate complete ignorance of competition criteria. he may have the type of body that some of you (pumpster) may be sexually attracted to, but he simply doesn't match up to the mr o's of the time ie to suggest he should have beaten the likes of prime schwarzenegger is obtuse.

he lacked legs, forearms, delts (especially rear), size, density and, as aforementioned, condition.

had great pecs though ::)
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: NeoSeminole on November 30, 2006, 06:05:43 AM
Serge was what I refer to as "a good relaxed poser." He looked fantastic just standing there artisticly. If you saw him next to his competition hitting the mandatories, then you would see why he never won the Mr. O.
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: GoneAway on November 30, 2006, 06:49:11 AM
Serge was what I refer to as "a good relaxed poser." He looked fantastic just standing there artisticly. If you saw him next to his competition hitting the mandatories, then you would see why he never won the Mr. O.

Can you post some back mandatories? His front double bi was really 'compact' for the lack of a better word. Made him look smaller than he really is. It's hard to see, apart from his legs and posing, what kept him from winning the O, but then again, he faced tough competition.

Here are some great shots. I think they speak for themselves.
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: Option D on November 30, 2006, 09:10:23 AM
nubret had an awesome physique but in most ifbb comps, for whatever reason, he looked a bit flat.

prime zane smokes him in condition, symetry and balance.

nubret looked good in photos but was no mr o come competition time. to suggest such is to demonstrate complete ignorance of competition criteria. he may have the type of body that some of you (pumpster) may be sexually attracted to, but he simply doesn't match up to the mr o's of the time ie to suggest he should have beaten the likes of prime schwarzenegger is obtuse.

he lacked legs, forearms, delts (especially rear), size, density and, as aforementioned, condition.

had great pecs though ::)

You are on drugs. You say he lacked legs as if to say that arnold had wheels of steel. He was fvcked out of Mr. O's plain and simple. He looks like a bigger zane to me.
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: BEAST 8692 on November 30, 2006, 09:23:59 AM
You are on drugs. You say he lacked legs as if to say that arnold had wheels of steel. He was fvcked out of Mr. O's plain and simple. He looks like a bigger zane to me.

say what you want about arnold's legs, they were way better than serge's. arnold had much better quads, hammies, glutes, calves and seperation. also his back, arms, delts, chest were much thicker, denser, better seperation...this is stupid, i'm debating with a moron.
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: Option D on November 30, 2006, 09:33:23 AM
say what you want about arnold's legs, they were way better than serge's. arnold had much better quads, hammies, glutes, calves and seperation. also his back, arms, delts, chest were much thicker, denser, better seperation...this is stupid, i'm debating with a moron.
Hell of a way do dodge a question. So you think arnold had massive legs. Im not saying thay SN should have beaten arnold but i do think he could have won after arnold. And you act like the IFBB dosent give out gifts. Um arnold in 1980
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: BEAST 8692 on November 30, 2006, 07:47:49 PM
Hell of a way do dodge a question. So you think arnold had massive legs. Im not saying thay SN should have beaten arnold but i do think he could have won after arnold. And you act like the IFBB dosent give out gifts. Um arnold in 1980

i didn't say that the ifbb was immune to corruption. no other agency in the history of mankind has been, what makes the ifbb any different.

arnold didn't have massive legs but they were better than nubret's, far better.

you say nubret got cheated out of an olympia. i say when exactly? can you answer that one? who's to say whether nubret could have brought the kind of balance, symetry and condition to the stage when zane won it. i doubt it because i've never seen it before.

say nubret had a fantastic physique, i agree totally. say he got cheated out of a mr o, i call bullsit.
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: pumpster on November 30, 2006, 08:09:11 PM
nubret had an awesome physique but in most ifbb comps, for whatever reason, he looked a bit flat.

prime zane smokes him in condition, symetry and balance.

had great pecs though ::)

Beastiality continues to prove a homoerotic attraction to white BBs-Reeves, Zane, etc. as seen in the "memories" board. Revolting ball-worship that should be kept private; he's sort of like getbig's version of Gary Glitter, with a twist. :-X

Nubret over Zane without doubt, as proven in direct competion at the 72 olympia. Them's the facts; so much for silly theories about "judging criteria" laid down by homos with a decided reverence for white boyz.  ;D

1972 Mr. Olympia Results 

1 Arnold Schwarzenegger 
2 Sergio Oliva 
3 Serge Nubret 
4 Frank Zane
 
5 Franco Columbu 

Here are the top 3-no Zane. ;D

hahahahaahahahahahahahahahahah
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: pumpster on November 30, 2006, 08:10:28 PM

you say nubret got cheated out of an olympia. i say when exactly? can you answer that one? who's to say whether nubret could have brought the kind of balance, symetry and condition to the stage when zane won it. i doubt it because i've never seen it before.

say nubret had a fantastic physique, i agree totally. say he got cheated out of a mr o, i call bullsit.

If you want to see someone in love, as well as clear proof of his lack of objectivity when it comes to non-white BBss, go to the "memories" board for more on Beastiality's worship of Steve Reeve's balls. Frightening. He has a thing for white BBs-Reeves and Zane, to name a couple.

Beastiality "calls bullshit" (worn BB phrase by now) because Nubret did not satisfy his clear homosexual preference for white BBs.  Once you understand this, everything else is clear. :-X  The reverence reminds of a 7-year old kid.
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: pumpster on November 30, 2006, 08:15:34 PM
Hell of a way do dodge a question. So you think arnold had massive legs. Im not saying thay SN should have beaten arnold but i do think he could have won after arnold. And you act like the IFBB dosent give out gifts. Um arnold in 1980

Of course; in a fair, non-commercialized contest without agendas, Nubret, Robinson, Padilla, Fox and Oliva would've taken turns cleaning the floor with Zane, Columbu and other pretenders to the title of "world's best-built" men.

Those winners devalued the Olympia post-Schwarzenegger, pre-Haney, and the results were repulsive enough that most of the elite BBs of that era ended up leaving the IFBB and competing elsewhere, or retiring. (Mentzer, Padilla, Szkalak, Robinson, Oliva-almost all of the top guys left due to hijinks that only homos like Beastiality still proffer ).
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: pumpster on November 30, 2006, 08:45:26 PM

prime zane smokes him in condition, symetry and balance.



That must be why Nubret beat Zane in their only direct Olympia competition. hahahaahahahahah

Nubret also generally placed higher within his weight division after '72, as well, compared to Zane.

Nubret didn't even compete in the Olympia in the late 70s/early 80s due to the questionable placings, and most of the other top guys left the IFBB as well, leaving suckers like Beastiality to believe the results really mattered.

Beastiality no doubt also thought the 1980 & 1984 Olympics were great, too, even with half the countries missing. hahaahahahahahahahah
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: brianX on November 30, 2006, 09:55:46 PM
First photo is obviously morphed.
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: pumpster on November 30, 2006, 10:31:27 PM
First photo is obviously morphed.

Nah, Bri just doesn't have the depth to understand that was real.
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: Whiskey on November 30, 2006, 10:32:58 PM
no.


hope this helps.
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: bigkubby on December 01, 2006, 01:24:47 AM
he should have an olympia he has a great physique but they didnt give it to him because he has no ass.lol
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: UpTheDosage on December 01, 2006, 01:29:59 AM
no.


hope this helps.

lol. You beat me to it. I was gonna say the exact same thing.
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: bigkubby on December 01, 2006, 01:40:28 AM
beat you 2 his ass.ill bet back in the days the stage stunk like dingleberries and sweatfumunda lol
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: BEAST 8692 on December 01, 2006, 04:43:37 AM
That must be why Nubret beat Zane in their only direct Olympia competition. hahahaahahahahah

Nubret also generally placed higher within his weight division after '72, as well, compared to Zane.

Nubret didn't even compete in the Olympia in the late 70s/early 80s due to the questionable placings, and most of the other top guys left the IFBB as well, leaving suckers like Beastiality to believe the results really mattered.

Beastiality no doubt also thought the 1980 & 1984 Olympics were great, too, even with half the countries missing. hahaahahahahahahahah

i was talking about PRIME zane dick head.

btw, major league meltdown there. what was it, 4 posts in a row or some shit ;D. i really get to you don't i pumpy? :-*.

Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: LASTREP72 on December 01, 2006, 04:54:23 AM
weider is the man, dont ever question him  >:(
This the point, heard he and big Joe had a falling out (Nubret started his own federation) - plus the fact he's walking around on sticks.
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: LASTREP72 on December 01, 2006, 04:55:45 AM
WHITEY KEEPING THE BLACKMAN DOWN.
Yep I bet it sucked ass for him to have to travel to S. Africa for the O during the pumping iron movie.
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: pumpster on December 01, 2006, 05:58:46 AM
i was talking about PRIME zane dick head.

btw, major league meltdown there. what was it, 4 posts in a row or some shit ;D. i really get to you don't i pumpy? :-*.


OWNED on all points.

Nubret > Zane ;D
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: bigkubby on December 01, 2006, 06:04:57 AM
pumpster does that name mean you get pumped in the ass or that you prefer to wear womens pumps.just curious
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: pumpster on December 01, 2006, 06:21:19 AM
pumpster does that name mean you get pumped in the ass or that you prefer to wear womens pumps.just curious
Sounds like a wish-list from a bottom.

Hope this helps  :)
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: Dball on December 01, 2006, 08:55:53 AM
So who`s gonna tell me what year Zane won an Olympia that Nubret was entered in.By the time Zane won his first ,Nubret was getting beat by Tony Emmott in Nabba universe shows.

Exactly.  nubret was long gone by the time zane was winning. 
Title: Re: Is this guy the most underrated bodybuilder of all time
Post by: Rudee on December 01, 2006, 09:07:28 AM
Nubret had the skinniest wrists of any pro, but still built pretty large arms.