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Title: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: the shadow on November 30, 2006, 09:05:35 AM
enjoy...

pre-judging clip
&NR
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: Earl1972 on November 30, 2006, 09:37:09 AM
another screwjob for mr. levrone >:(

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Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: jwb on November 30, 2006, 11:11:46 AM
yates wins by a mile... rock hard and the back wipes them out
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 30, 2006, 11:21:15 AM
incredible quality in those years...
dorian was fucking amazing....probably the best overall balance and conditioning ever seen on a mass monster
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: jwb on November 30, 2006, 11:23:22 AM
incredible quality in those years...
dorian was fucking amazing....probably the best overall balance and conditioning ever seen on a mass monster
he put in the effort and spent the money he needed to to get that effect...
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: UK Gold on November 30, 2006, 11:24:36 AM
Dorian looks incredible. He was just on another planet compared to everyone else. Kev looked great though, he was Dorians toughest competition by far. Poor little Shawn. Out muscled, out gunned, out classed. [still looked better than the abominations that win shows today though]
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: theonlyone on November 30, 2006, 11:32:06 AM
Dorian looks incredible. He was just on another planet compared to everyone else.
He's on another planet even compared to Jay Cutler. Doryan is so much better than Jay.
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: natural al on November 30, 2006, 11:34:13 AM
how long before hulkster turns this into a Ronnie vs. Dorian thread, I say by the end of the 1st page we'll be seeing him post some pics of Ronnie.
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: Your MAAAAaaaa on November 30, 2006, 11:38:21 AM
another screwjob for mr. levrone >:(

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you would love to give a screwjob wouldn't you!


Chatting shit as usual!


ta ta
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 30, 2006, 01:23:46 PM
Thank you for this foootage I've never seen clips this long of 1995 and it wasn't even close ! its amazing how great Dorian was at his best.
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: jwb on November 30, 2006, 01:29:13 PM
Thank you for this foootage I've never seen clips this long of 1995 and it wasn't even close ! its amazing how great Dorian was at his best.
He really was a SMART poser too the way he hid the faults he had and stuck to his best 5-6 shots...
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 30, 2006, 01:33:31 PM
He really was a SMART poser too the way he hid the faults he had and stuck to his best 5-6 shots...

He was a great poser! there is  more to a bodybuilding contest than just having the best physique .
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 30, 2006, 01:36:23 PM
i knew dorian was awesome in 93-94 but in those 95 clips, he was even better. i think he would even give a prime ronnie a run for his money there.
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 30, 2006, 01:52:29 PM
Pics from 1995
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: pobrecito on November 30, 2006, 01:57:35 PM
Dorian was at his best in 95.

He had the sharpness of a 235lb with the perceived mass of a 285 lb
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: UK Gold on November 30, 2006, 02:15:09 PM
The crowd fucking roared when Dorian did his most muscular - yet they booed Shawn each time he came onto the stage. Anyone know why this happened? Shawn?
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 30, 2006, 02:19:53 PM
The crowd fucking roared when Dorian did his most muscular - yet they booed Shawn each time he came onto the stage. Anyone know why this happened? Shawn?


Shawn said in the magazines that after Dorian torn his biceps his career was over and he had a few good years left in him to guest pose , all durring the 1995 Olympia Shawn was constantly booed , again Dorian silenced everyone with his physique ! Dorian crushed everyone and Shawn dropped a place lol
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 30, 2006, 02:38:57 PM
sorry to inform you that shawn is in fact owning dorian in that pic. dorian has twig legs there nd, coupled with horrible conditioning


Gee another troll lol I wonder who this could be? well so far you've exposed how little you know about how bodybuilding contests are judged.
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: pobrecito on November 30, 2006, 02:43:10 PM
face it dorian is smallish with poor conditioning compared to ray ray. plus he has the penis of a five year old according to flex. shawn is clearly owning dorain, more detail, striated glutes, great hams, better balance.

go away.
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: pobrecito on November 30, 2006, 02:45:39 PM
you are now on ignore
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: carvedoutofwood on November 30, 2006, 02:47:21 PM
is Youtube not wokring for anyone else???
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: jwb on November 30, 2006, 03:05:08 PM
i will not, your non-sense will end, dorian appears smoothish and small.
compared to who godzilla?
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: brian36 on November 30, 2006, 03:08:32 PM
is anyone more impressed with Yate's rear lat spread than with his back double biceps?
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: bigbalddaddy on November 30, 2006, 03:09:18 PM
Its funny that in retrospect Dorians gut looks asthetic in comparison to Ronnies and everyones of todays era!  LOL!!!  That's crazy!!!
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 30, 2006, 03:10:50 PM
95
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 30, 2006, 03:12:44 PM
1995
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: Hulkster on November 30, 2006, 03:23:52 PM
dorian should really stop flexing his biceps in photo shoots.

seriously 8)

ps shawns rear double bi is fantastic.  better than dorian's.
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 30, 2006, 03:26:55 PM
dorian should really stop flexing his biceps in photo shoots.

seriously 8)

ps shawns rear double bi is fantastic.  better than dorian's.

I know now you really don't believe this and you're just typing it for a reaction , its just nonsense and aren't you the same guy always screaming about width? Shawn has none especially compared to Dorian.
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: pobrecito on November 30, 2006, 03:28:23 PM
Hulkster has turned into a complete troll with no credibility.

Shawn Ray was never in Dorian's league....he was never a threat to Dorian...he looked like a child, a little bitch, during that posedown video.
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: crc69 on November 30, 2006, 04:50:27 PM
Hulkster has turned into a complete troll with no credibility.

Shawn Ray was never in Dorian's league....he was never a threat to Dorian...he looked like a child, a little bitch, during that posedown video.

You're a complete moron.
Shawn was 10 times better than Dorian in 93 and 96.
Everyone knows that.
Yates complete ruined bodybuilding evolution with his gut (and no arms)
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 30, 2006, 04:53:54 PM
You're a complete moron.
Shawn was 10 times better than Dorian in 93 and 96.
Everyone knows that.
Yates complete ruined bodybuilding evolution with his gut (and no arms)

10 times better in 93 huh? lol I guess thats why he's the 1993 Mr Olympia  ::)
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: Theoak* on November 30, 2006, 06:52:17 PM
Reason why shawn owns dorian in the back double bi, is one - on condition and two - well it is called a back DOUBLE BI. Now where the fuck are dorians bis in that shot? Ive never known a bicep to disappear so quickly in a pose in all my life. Dorian was a great competitor, but he had some major flaws and certainly did not deserve 7 olympias.
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 30, 2006, 06:53:07 PM
Reason why shawn owns dorian in the back double bi, is one - on condition and two - well it is called a back DOUBLE BI. Now where the f**k are dorians bis in that shot? Ive never known a bicep to disappear so quickly in a pose in all my life. Dorian was a great competitor, but he had some major flaws and certainly did not deserve 7 olympias.

Oh boy lol
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: njflex on November 30, 2006, 08:09:59 PM
those year's must have been tough to judge ,so many good competitor's and in great shape,today it is a 2 pony race  :-\
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: jwb on November 30, 2006, 10:16:19 PM
Oh boy lol
Actually ND dorian did develop a bad habit around 1994 on the rear double biceps pose of dipping his head down too much and also over internally rotating his humerus bones when he hit the shot.

the result was that the top of his biceps were facing the rear of the stage about about a 60 degree angle instead of facing the ceiling the way shawn's were.

the problem didn't really exist in 1991-1993. might have had something to do with rotator cuff pain IMO...
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: TrapsMcLats on November 30, 2006, 10:22:01 PM
Nasser's gut was huge already in 95.
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: suckmymuscle on December 01, 2006, 01:12:14 AM
enjoy...

pre-judging clip
&NR

  Thanks for that. I had been waiting for this for a while now. Since the Coleman fans base their entire evaluation of pics and videos and not on evaluating physiques logically, I think this video seals the deal once and for all. I mean, what can they present to counter this? I will match this version of Dorian against any version of Coleman. Any. It can be 1999, 2003 or any other. Dorian makes the 1999 Ronnie look like an uncerdevelpped amateur and his still has less symmetrical flaws. Conversely, he makes the 2003 Coleman look like a fat bitch, with soft muscles and a huge gut. If the judges gave the nod to the 2003 Coleman over this due to the size advantage, I would never follow bodybuilding again. I'll take 260 lbs with a flat stomach, etched serratus and the hardest, driest muscles ever seen onstage over 290 lbs of soft muscles, no abdominal separations, no separations overrall when standing relaxed, the largest, most unmanly glutes ever seen onstage and the wors distended gut ever that was Ronnie Coleman in 2003. 287 lbs of shit. Dorian had visible abs at 305 lbs off-season. If he dieted down to 287 lbs, he would look harder and more separated than that travesty that was Ronnie in 2003. Eeeeeeeeeeeeeew! :-X

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: suckmymuscle on December 01, 2006, 01:30:23 AM
  Now, I'm waiting foe some moron to say that the 1995 Dorian wouldn't even win the NPC Nationals. ::) There was actually a moron here, a few months ago, who said that the 1992 Dorian wouldn't even make the top five at the NPC Nationals nowadays. Now, the 1992 Dorian would win the NPC Nationals nowadays easily, but I do agree that he would only be top fivw at the Olympia. Now, the 1995 Dorian would easily win the Olympia nowadays: one of the top three physiques of all times!

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: The_Hammer on December 01, 2006, 09:29:22 AM
Simply incredible.  Mass with conditioning and aesthetics.  Unreal.
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: IceCold on December 01, 2006, 10:00:19 AM
just as someone requested to ignore TA's comments, we should now ignore hulkster's comments regarding
dorian.

he just cant compliment the most dominant winner, is blind to anything negative regarding coleman, and refuses to give the guy any respect as a bodybuilder - despite his heroes flex and ronnie - giving  him tremendous respect.

pumpster, please dont post anything.   you dont contribute anything of value. 
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: body88 on December 01, 2006, 10:13:16 AM
Yates is destroying Levrone and Shawn in that video. That is the simple truth.
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: the shadow on December 01, 2006, 10:14:21 AM
Yates is destroying Levrone and Shawn in that video. That is the simple truth.
and also nasser el somebody
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: body88 on December 01, 2006, 10:15:42 AM
and also nasser el somebody


It is not even close. Like some of Ronnie's wins. Just miles ahead of the others.
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: the shadow on December 01, 2006, 10:16:23 AM

It is not even close. Like some of Ronnie's wins. Just miles ahead of the others.
wich ronnie win?.....lol
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: body88 on December 01, 2006, 10:18:49 AM
You have to be fair. Ronnie was on another level for some of his wins. Some where gifts. Especially 2002. I think he owned flex in 98 personally. The rest of the field was miles behind.
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: the shadow on December 01, 2006, 10:26:54 AM
You have to be fair. Ronnie was on another level for some of his wins. Some where gifts. Especially 2002. I think he owned flex in 98 personally. The rest of the field was miles behind.
98 naah man..i would say his 2003 win was really dominant.i hate to say this but he made jay cutler look like his bitch but this year it was the other way round
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: Earl1972 on December 01, 2006, 08:20:18 PM
Yates is destroying Levrone and Shawn in that video. That is the simple truth.

with his gut yes

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Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: theonlyone on December 01, 2006, 08:25:49 PM
98 naah man..i would say his 2003 win was really dominant.i hate to say this but he made jay cutler look like his bitch but this year it was the other way round
Ronnie made Jay look his bitch 10- 20 times?
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: Hulkster on December 01, 2006, 08:38:46 PM
the prejudging clip shows how vastly overrated dorian's back double bi really was.

Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: pobrecito on December 01, 2006, 08:43:09 PM
the prejudging clip shows how vastly overrated dorian's back double bi really was.



If it was so overrated how did he win? And how in such dominating of a manner? And isn't wasn't becuase of size.....so please explain.
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: pumpster on December 01, 2006, 08:43:28 PM
another screwjob for mr. levrone >:(

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He's one of a few who got robbed by the politics.
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: Hulkster on December 01, 2006, 08:44:07 PM
Quote
If it was so overrated how did he win?

um... because he was overrated ::)...

Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: pobrecito on December 01, 2006, 08:45:04 PM
He's one of a few who got robbed by the politics.

yep, in 2002...by a garbage truck.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xq8ad_2002
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: pobrecito on December 01, 2006, 08:46:14 PM
um... because he was overrated ::)...



is that the best you can come up with?

Pathetic.

Here is Coleman looking like a trash dumpster in 2002. Far worse than anything Yates ever displayed on stage.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xq8ad_2002
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: Hulkster on December 01, 2006, 08:49:20 PM
pubic. you are missing my point.

i merely commented that his back double bi is overrated, because, like in the video, it is pften very flat looking.

You jump and say well if he was overrated how did he win?

the answer is because he was overrated in the first place.

Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: pumpster on December 01, 2006, 08:51:25 PM
with his gut yes

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hahahahahahah
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: pobrecito on December 01, 2006, 08:55:05 PM
pubic. you are missing my point.

i merely commented that his back double bi is overrated, because, like in the video, it is pften very flat looking.

You jump and say well if he was overrated how did he win?

the answer is because he was overrated in the first place.



Did you watch the video? Probably not. In any case, Coleman showed up worse than any version of Yates and it was an embarrasment that he won; the fans acknowledged this by booing him off the stage. Ronnie was great in 98 and 99. However, for you to claim Dorian was overrated, especially at his best, truly shows your ignorance, and specifically your bias. What the outside reader cannot understand about your argument is the overwhelming evidence that Yates truly was that dominant in 93 and 95. Most notably the evidence from the people at the show. Delta from GetBig was at the 91 and specifically, 95 O and he said it was over the moment Dorian walked out. Why would he lie?
Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: Earl1972 on December 01, 2006, 09:26:15 PM
hahahahahahah

monster obliques

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Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 02, 2006, 06:18:31 AM
um... because he was overrated ::)...



See you have no explanation why his back double biceps shot is overrated because its nonsense , you like Ronnie's better so everyone else pales in comparison which isn't true

The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.


Back Double Biceps (see Figure 4)
Standing with his back to the judges, the competitor will
bend the arms and wrists as in the Front Double Biceps
pose, and will place one foot back, resting on the toes.
He will then contract the arm muscles as well as the
muscles of the shoulders, upper and lower back, thigh
and calf muscles.

The judge will first survey the arm muscles and then do
the head-to-foot survey, during which there are more
muscle groups to look at than in all of the other poses.
This includes the neck, deltoids, biceps, triceps, forearm,
trapezius, teres, infraspinatus, erector spinae, external
obliques, latissimus dorsi, gluteus, thigh biceps, and
calves. This pose, probably more than the others, will
help the judge to determine the quality of the
competitor’s muscle density, definition, and overall
balance.


Lets see where Yates has the edge in this shot compared to Ronnie according to the official IFBB judging criteria , balanced development , density and conditioning , and calves which the judges are looking for and they'd have to keep looking to see Ronnie's because he hasn't any , they only edge Ronnie has on Dorian in this pose is much better biceps , Dorian crushes him in almost every other aspect of the pose .

Title: Re: MR OLYMPIA 1995 posedown and prejudging video clips...
Post by: MRMD2003 on December 03, 2006, 05:10:26 AM
a togh show to call. i think kev look better from the front, but dorians back was so damn impressive. coleman and yates' backs were the best of all time !!!! when they turned around the show was over !!!