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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: najoe777 on November 30, 2006, 09:56:00 AM
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1st doc gave me 1/2cc 100mgs. weeks 2 3 n 4 got doc to up it to 1cc 200mgs. week 5 today got doc to up it to 1 1/2cc 300mgs now thinking of just staying with that for the next 10 weeks what you think of that for a mild 1st cycle test only that will be a total of 15weeks 44 years old 161lbs 19%bf 1cc =200mgs right? i know some of you will say to low a dose just trying to see how my body reacts
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I love test only cycles.200mg a week isnt really that great you might see some slow results.the recommended dose is like 500mg a week.but you never know
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i am doing 1 1/2cc now thats 300mgs right? next 10 weeks
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is that at the ant-aging-center?
i heard i can go there once i turn 35?
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i am doing 1 1/2cc now thats 300mgs right? next 10 weeks
look at the bottle, it will tell you the MG per CC/ML it is.
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look at the bottle, it will tell you the MG per CC/ML it is.
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his doc administer that for him, but doesn't all cypio come in 200mg?
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his doc administer that for him, but doesn't all cypio come in 200mg?
i think it does but there is only one way to find out...
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200 is way to low dude unless your just trying to boost your level a little to get your libido up. But as far as muscle building your better off at 500. I would just find a source and do it yourself
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its 300mgs a week
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300mg/wk is a low dose, but at your age it should do a lot more for you then it would for someone a good deal younger.
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thanks for the postive post Arnold jr
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ok week 5, 6, n 7 300mgs weeks 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, n 13 400mgs so i got doc to up it alittle now after that should i come off for awhile n run pct or what?
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thats prob not gonna do much at all im hittin deca test cyp. and dbol at once and still not to much size but huge strength increase.but still gainin
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i still think you should find your own source and up the dosage
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ok week 5, 6, n 7 300mgs weeks 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, n 13 400mgs so i got doc to up it alittle now after that should i come off for awhile n run pct or what?
HRT is permenant...ask your doc.
If you choose to come off run nolva for 4 weeks...40, 30, 20 ,10
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HRT is permenant...ask your doc.
If you choose to come off run nolva for 4 weeks...40, 30, 20 ,10
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dude? wats HRT?
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dude? wats HRT?
Hormone Replacement Therapy
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so 400mgs is HRT but you guys say 500mgs on up is steroids some of you use 500mgs/or 750mgs test i was just thinking wounld be like my 1st light cycle n see how my body reacts n then go from there acen/pimples are already a problem but always had that problem as i was growing up i just thought that test would be better then wasting my money on supplements that don't work plus had doc friend that gave me a script with no blood work
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so 400mgs is HRT but you guys say 500mgs on up is steroids some of you use 500mgs/or 750mgs test i was just thinking wounld be like my 1st light cycle n see how my body reacts n then go from there acen/pimples are already a problem but always had that problem as i was growing up i just thought that test would be better then wasting my money on supplements that don't work plus had doc friend that gave me a script with no blood work
i was under the impression that you were on HRT...
i'm not sure what you are asking.
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iam not on HRT my doc friend i asked n he gave me a script for test at least i know it would be the real shit n didn't have to worry about shipping i went right to the drug store n picked it up myself later on if i want to go on a stronger cycle i will have to find a source so my ? is after week 13 should i cycle off with PCT wait 3 or 4 moths n may be do a stronger cycle or should i stay on longer like 20 weeks at 400mgs what you guys think? just testing the water with what i thought was a light cycle
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iam not on HRT my doc friend i asked n he gave me a script for test at least i know it would be the real shit n didn't have to worry about shipping i went right to the drug store n picked it up myself later on if i want to go on a stronger cycle i will have to find a source so my ? is after week 13 should i cycle off with PCT wait 3 or 4 moths n may be do a stronger cycle or should i stay on longer like 20 weeks at 400mgs what you guys think? just testing the water with what i thought was a light cycle
since it is your first i would do PCT, then wait 3 months and do a 16 week cycle of 500mg test the entire cycle...no changing the dose, just 500mg from start to finish. if you can get ahold of dbol or tbol you can take that the first 6 weeks to jumpstart the cycle...
So...
Weeks 1-16 500mg Test EW
Weeks 1- 6 50mg Dbol or Tbol ED
weeks 17-20 PCT - Nolva 40, 30, 20, 10
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since it is your first i would do PCT, then wait 3 months and do a 16 week cycle of 500mg test the entire cycle...no changing the dose, just 500mg from start to finish. if you can get ahold of dbol or tbol you can take that the first 6 weeks to jumpstart the cycle...
So...
Weeks 1-16 500mg Test EW
Weeks 1- 6 50mg Dbol or Tbol ED
weeks 17-20 PCT - Nolva 40, 30, 20, 10
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Overlaod has posted a very reasonable cycle for someone at your age and level of commitment (which I am admittedly infering from your bodyweight and bodyfat levels).
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thanks guys n can the doc give me script for the Nolva? all of you are the greatest n i read every you guys write you guys have the knowledge n exp goal 5ft 1 when done 175 or closest to 200 as i can with riped abs good legs n arms
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Overlaod has posted a very reasonable cycle for someone at your age and level of commitment (which I am admittedly infering from your bodyweight and bodyfat levels).
Listen to freak. He knows his shit.
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thanks guys n can the doc give me script for the Nolva?
I would highly doubt it. You'll probably be using what the rest of us use.
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Listen to freak. He knows his shit.
Indeed.....
Freaker is a doc who uses.
I respect that.
DIV
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Indeed.....
Freaker is a doc who uses.
I respect that.
DIV
As do I.
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As do I.
You said the same thing to Princess Leia just so you could get your furry paws on her tight white ass.
I know your ways, Rimbauder.
You're such a player.... >:(
DIV
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You're such a player.... >:(
Not so much...I'm a married ewok now.
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Not so much...I'm a married ewok now.
married huh.......marriage is for fags ;D
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Not so much...I'm a married ewok now.
That's what they all say, Rimbauder.....
Ewoks stay on the prowl.
DIV
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thanks tthanks for the help you guys are great thanks for not eatting me alive ok to finish this little light cycle i am on or just stop n start PCT at least i am seeing how my body is going to react before a heaver cycle i am train real hard drinking lots of water n trying to eat 6 clean meals a day n switching my work out up I AM GOING GET THERE!!!!!!! 1 day but not over night
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1st doc gave me 1/2cc 100mgs. weeks 2 3 n 4 got doc to up it to 1cc 200mgs. week 5 today got doc to up it to 1 1/2cc 300mgs now thinking of just staying with that for the next 10 weeks what you think of that for a mild 1st cycle test only that will be a total of 15weeks 44 years old 161lbs 19%bf 1cc =200mgs right? i know some of you will say to low a dose just trying to see how my body reacts
Hey bro at 42 yrs old 500mg of teat -e a week works really good for me just watch your BP
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wow hittin the suace still at 42...i was scared hittin it now at 20
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wow hittin the suace still at 42...i was scared hittin it now at 20
you should be...
the older you are the more benefits you will get from test...
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you should be...
the older you are the more benefits you will get from test...
The older you are, the more susceptible you are to the sides of AAS use.
Something in the HRT range or a bit higher can be beneficial but megadosing at an advanced age is not recommended.
DIV
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Out of curiousity, why pyramid the Nolvadex down 40, 30, 20 and then 10? Is there a benefit to this methodology as apposed to just running it straight at 30 or 20mgs daily for 4 weeks? Just curious. Thanks.
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Out of curiousity, why pyramid the Nolvadex down 40, 30, 20 and then 10? Is there a benefit to this methodology as apposed to just running it straight at 30 or 20mgs daily for 4 weeks? Just curious. Thanks.
I think 20mg for 4-5 weeks is a good idea.
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I think 20mg for 4-5 weeks is a good idea.
You prefer or rather suggest straight 20mgs a day for 4 or 5 weeks? I have seen more than one post on different threads where it is suggested to pyramid the dosages 40, 30, 20 and if needed 10. I am just curious as to the reasons why? I like to use Nolva during the first 6 weeks (if I am taking DBOL) and I start them again about 2 weeks prior to coming off (I have a slight problem with the possibility of gyno) through 3 weeks of PCT. I also take proviron the entire cycle through to help with gains and block Estrogen receptors so I have my own methods of use for Nolva I am just curious, I love learning new methods and train of thought on usage. Can never know too much.
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100mg per week is considered a common replacement dose. Not sure of your individual metabolic factors, but 300 mg should be a fairly good boost.
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100mg per week is considered a common replacement dose. Not sure of your individual metabolic factors, but 300 mg should be a fairly good boost.
There isn't really any scientific reason behind the pyramidal decreases in Nolvadex that I see posted here so often. I have obtained very smooth transitions after cycles with a steady dose of 20mg per day for 4 weeks. That being said, I have gained enough personal experience as a user of AAS to know how my own body responds, and I would not hesitate to increase that dosage if faced with an increase in post-cycle estrogenic side effects.
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There isn't really any scientific reason behind the pyramidal decreases in Nolvadex that I see posted here so often. I have obtained very smooth transitions after cycles with a steady dose of 20mg per day for 4 weeks. That being said, I have gained enough personal experience as a user of AAS to know how my own body responds, and I would not hesitate to increase that dosage if faced with an increase in post-cycle estrogenic side effects.
I would have to believe that any PCT is at the descression of the user and what works best for him/her. Like I posted earlier, I do well to take nolvadex for longer periods of time (more than the common 4 week PCT time frame) due to my body being suseptible to gyno. I really didn't figure there was any scientific reasoning behind the pyramid sceme for nolvadex it was just weird to see a specific breakdown of a simple compound like nolvadex being posted here that I wondered if there was any reason behind it. I will personally stick with what works for me and if gyno gets to flairing up I will up the doses. I still say that proviron is a must in any cycle (well any cycle I will ever do)
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thanks for all the help on PCT FreakfestMD i do SWEAT LODGES every week you think that help out any with toxics n the gyno or at my low dose of test no worry at my age is 20mgs straight at 4 weeks like you going to be ok
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thanks for all the help on PCT FreakfestMD i do SWEAT LODGES every week you think that help out any with toxics n the gyno or at my low dose of test no worry at my age is 20mgs straight at 4 weeks like you going to be ok
I would think that you should do fine with that. You can always ramp it up if you need to.
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The older you are, the more susceptible you are to the sides of AAS use.
Something in the HRT range or a bit higher can be beneficial but megadosing at an advanced age is not recommended.
DIV
i agree...i meant from a HRT standpoint. my dad is on test and hasn't felt this good in years. he is also extremely healthy.
i taper off the nolva based on personal experience...there is no evidence to say that you should or should not.
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100mg per week is considered a common replacement dose. Not sure of your individual metabolic factors, but 300 mg should be a fairly good boost.
My original HRT script was for 300 mgs. of 200mg./ml. cypionate every 3 weeks. I stayed at this dose for 6 months and had my Test. level retested. It was still a little low but within the "normal limits" range of between approx. 250 and 850 ng./dl.
After a consultation with an endocrinologist, that my family physician referred me to, my dosage was increased to 300 mg. every 2 weeks. My Test level, when last tested, was now at 675 ng./dl. I feel good at this level and am experiencing all the benefits I was hoping for. Nothing dramatic or mind blowing... just a good sense of well being, libido and enthusiasm for life. My strength and lean mass gains are certainly not what they were when I was younger... but just maintaining what I have as I age is progress.
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My original HRT script was for 300 mgs. of 200mg./ml. cypionate every 3 weeks. I stayed at this dose for 6 months and had my Test. level retested. It was still a little low but within the "normal limits" range of between approx. 250 and 850 ng./dl.
After a consultation with an endocrinologist, that my family physician referred me to, my dosage was increased to 300 mg. every 2 weeks. My Test level, when last tested, was now at 675 ng./dl. I feel good at this level and am experiencing all the benefits I was hoping for. Nothing dramatic or mind blowing... just a good sense of well being, libido and enthusiasm for life. My strength and lean mass gains are certainly not what they were when I was younger... but just maintaining what I have as I age is progress.
Perhaps consider asking your endo to bump you up to 500-750 Test ew and see how that feels.
Tell him you'd appreciate the love.....
I have known endocrinologists who will do this.
DIV