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Title: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: the shadow on December 01, 2006, 12:07:12 AM
enourmous.. :o
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: suckmymuscle on December 01, 2006, 12:39:12 AM
enourmous.. :o


  Oh damn, that's the scariest shit I've ever seen. :-\ Dorian at 270 lbs makes Ronnie at 290 lbs seem like a peanut. His thickness and hardness are just frightful. :o

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: Theoak* on December 01, 2006, 01:45:26 AM
  Oh damn, that's the scariest shit I've ever seen. :-\ Dorian at 270 lbs makes Ronnie at 290 lbs seem like a peanut. His thickness and hardness are just frightful. :o

SUCKMYMUSCLE

LOL, delusional. Look at yates wicked front double bi  ::).

Yep definately makes ronnie look like a peanut ::)
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: suckmymuscle on December 01, 2006, 01:54:56 AM
LOL, delusional. Look at yates wicked front double bi  ::).

Yep definately makes ronnie look like a peanut ::)

  The front double bicceps is one mandatory, the only one that Ronnie is better. At everything else, Dorian destroys him.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: avesher on December 01, 2006, 02:15:05 AM
please report to the thread "Hulkster, I'm calling for a Truce"
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: bigkubby on December 01, 2006, 02:46:02 AM
dude dorians arms looked like butthole.i cant beleive he got 6 winns with those arms . everything else was fantastic though.my arms are better than his even lee haney his pussy arms
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: MAXX on December 01, 2006, 04:49:27 AM
Yeah his arms sucked there. But thats because of a torn bicep and tricep!

He had great arms before that. Just look at the black n white pics
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: UK Gold on December 01, 2006, 05:08:16 AM
A fucking monster. The greatest bodybuilder of all time. No cheap 'raising the roof' type theatrics for Doz. He rules supreme. Ronnie is nothing.
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: Tigerman on December 01, 2006, 05:21:02 AM
Totally unimpressed. Boring routine, monster (unsuccessful) attempt at hiding the arm tears, no muscle separation, his trademark "grainyness" seems gone, giant obliques and on top a big gut...
Other than that, Dorian was a great bodybuilder.

P.S. Nasser was robbed that year!
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: brian36 on December 01, 2006, 06:23:31 AM
nowhere near coleman
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: pumpster on December 01, 2006, 06:24:44 AM
He is totally devoid of athleticism as he trundles onto stage like Frankenstein.
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: pumpster on December 01, 2006, 06:26:20 AM
Yeah his arms sucked there. But thats because of a torn bicep and tricep!

He had great arms before that. Just look at the black n white pics

Rationalization; arms were always a problem. You can always tell a Yates fan by the reliance on those black & whites because there are no color shots of him that way. Those black & whites helped because they emphasized detail that didn't show up in color that he was missing at that higher bodyweight.
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: body88 on December 01, 2006, 06:30:11 AM
He is totally devoid of athleticism as he trundles onto stage like Frankenstein.

Ronnie looks alot better pumping his hands in the air while his gut bulges out.
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: vinnyvee on December 01, 2006, 06:31:52 AM
The last great Mr. O. You dont even see that kind of response anymore from people. Just a select group of groupies, not a whole friggin crowd! Awsome....
 8)
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: IceCold on December 01, 2006, 06:33:11 AM
LOL, delusional. Look at yates wicked front double bi  ::).

Yep definately makes ronnie look like a peanut ::)



thanks for posting an OFFSEASON shot of ronnie. 
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: pumpster on December 01, 2006, 06:34:17 AM


thanks for posting an OFFSEASON shot of ronnie. 

What would you expect, a pic of Coleman that embarasses their hero?
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: the shadow on December 01, 2006, 06:34:47 AM
the best part of that posing routine is when yates is about to be called onstage for his routine and the camera focuses on his back..his back looked like a turtle shell..
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: pumpster on December 01, 2006, 06:44:00 AM
the best part of that posing routine is when yates is about to be called onstage for his routine and the camera focuses on his back..his back looked like a turtle shell..

So much for aesthetics..hahahahahaha
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: MAXX on December 01, 2006, 06:46:31 AM
So much for aesthetics..hahahahahaha
about 1000 pictures of ronnies gut looking worse than that can be posted. you know it..
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: pumpster on December 01, 2006, 06:47:30 AM
about 1000 pictures of ronnies gut looking worse than that can be posted. you know it..
Yates, a pioneer in GH guts yet he's obsessed with Coleman. ;D
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: body88 on December 01, 2006, 07:08:50 AM
So much for aesthetics..hahahahahaha

Watch this vid of Ronnie in 2002  at his worst. Then watch the yates vid from 97 of doz at his worst. Night and day. At least Yates had the torn bi as an excuse. The 2002 video of Ronnie proves Yates gut was never anything close to what Ronnie was sporting in 2002. Irrefutable evidence. Not picture of guys caught at a bad time. Video.

You guys have a point when you argue lack of detail. But the gut shit is way off. Like midgets calling people short!


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xq8ad_2002
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: BEAST 8692 on December 01, 2006, 07:47:35 AM
He is totally devoid of athleticism as he trundles onto stage like Frankenstein.

oh yes, because ronnie is quite the athletic one isn't he? ;D

Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: vinnyvee on December 01, 2006, 07:54:20 AM
He is totally devoid of athleticism as he trundles onto stage like Frankenstein.

WTF? You want he should come out "raising the roof" like Coleman? Dorian was about getting the job done. He never claimed to be an entertainer. Came out and always let the physique do the talking. When you have competitors at the time like S/Ray bitching about little things like Dorian's bi rolling up into his shoulder while he flexed...? Big efen deal. Stand next to the man and turn around. Oh, looks like everyone back forgot to show up!!!
 8)
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: bb doc on December 01, 2006, 10:42:01 AM
1. Dorian's gut after 1993 was just too darn big. His waist was superb in 92, but as he grew, so did his gut.

2. Dorian's posing is WAY underrated.  Here's the thing:

HE ACTUALLY HOLDS THE POSE FOR > 1.5 SECONDS!

So a judge/fan can eval the physique.

Arnold himself mentioned this crucial posing aspect when he was commentating for his show once.
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: pumpster on December 01, 2006, 10:50:15 AM
The 2002 video of Ronnie proves Yates gut was never anything close to what Ronnie was sporting in 2002. Irrefutable evidence.

This is a major gut PLUS Yates had (1) a much wider waist from the front which effected taper, and (2) had a lot less size up top to compensate.

You've only looked at part of the equation by focusing on Yates gut front-to-back.
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: pumpster on December 01, 2006, 10:52:18 AM
Yates also had a much WIDER WAIST to go with less upper body muscle, which effected his taper compared with Coleman.

YATES SPORTING THE PATENTED "H-TAPER"
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: pumpster on December 01, 2006, 10:55:41 AM
dude dorians arms looked like butthole.i cant beleive he got 6 winns with those arms . everything else was fantastic though.my arms are better than his even lee haney his pussy arms
Pithy & concise on both Yates & Haney. ;D
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: the shadow on December 01, 2006, 11:19:39 AM
Pithy & concise on both Yates & Haney. ;D
yo pumpster who do you think had the shittiest arms haney or yates?
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: pumpster on December 01, 2006, 11:27:56 AM
yo pumpster who do you think had the shittiest arms haney or yates?

At least Yates had ok sized tris, with great cuts. Haney's torso completely overpowered micro arms. He also had the only MM i've seen that was as bad or worse than Yates.

ND or SUCKY will post that Haney's arms were 20". Whatever they were was too small. :-\
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: Iceman1981 on December 01, 2006, 11:46:37 AM
A fucking monster. The greatest bodybuilder of all time. No cheap 'raising the roof' type theatrics for Doz. He rules supreme. Ronnie is nothing.

lol, what a comment. But hey, everyone is intitled to their own opinion.
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: JasonH on December 01, 2006, 11:53:09 AM
Dorian was actually alright in 1997. Hi best years were behind him but he held his own and with the majority of shots in his posing routing, his dodgy left arm didn't really come into play too much. He still beat Nasser in terms of condition but to be fair, I liked Nasser's overall look better that year and he was unlucky not to win.
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: Iceman1981 on December 01, 2006, 11:56:13 AM
Totally unimpressed. Boring routine, monster (unsuccessful) attempt at hiding the arm tears, no muscle separation, his trademark "grainyness" seems gone, giant obliques and on top a big gut...
Other than that, Dorian was a great bodybuilder.

P.S. Nasser was robbed that year!

I'm not that impressed either. Since he tore his left bicep he should of stopped winning Olympia's, it's just the truth. He was good, but did not deserve to win all 6 Mr. O's. Had a gut this year also. But you have to admit, the guy was awesome before he tore his bicep.
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: Iceman1981 on December 01, 2006, 11:58:28 AM
So much for aesthetics..hahahahahaha

Man, that's a gut. I guess he put the big gut thing in style. lol, like Sergio said, "Yates has a belly like a cow". True statement.
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: Iceman1981 on December 01, 2006, 12:03:42 PM
Watch this vid of Ronnie in 2002  at his worst. Then watch the yates vid from 97 of doz at his worst. Night and day. At least Yates had the torn bi as an excuse. The 2002 video of Ronnie proves Yates gut was never anything close to what Ronnie was sporting in 2002. Irrefutable evidence. Not picture of guys caught at a bad time. Video.

You guys have a point when you argue lack of detail. But the gut shit is way off. Like midgets calling people short!


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xq8ad_2002

No one is saying that Coleman has no gut. He has a gut when he neglects to work his stomach. But atleast he didn't have "half" a bicep like yates.
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: Iceman1981 on December 01, 2006, 12:07:15 PM
Yates also had a much WIDER WAIST to go with less upper body muscle, which effected his taper compared with Coleman.

YATES SPORTING THE PATENTED "H-TAPER"

that's a real H taper.
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: pumpster on December 01, 2006, 12:53:01 PM
But you have to admit, the guy was awesome before he tore his bicep.

The tear argument's distracting & misleading-neither arm was above blah:
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: body88 on December 01, 2006, 01:12:34 PM
No one is saying that Coleman has no gut. He has a gut when he neglects to work his stomach. But atleast he didn't have "half" a bicep like yates.


Ronnie has a gut from the massive doses of Gh and insulin. Which caused his internal organs to grow. The difference now is he works hard to control it. Before he did not care. He could "work" his stomach 24 hours per day and have the exact same midsection. Ripped abs on top of a gh induced gut.You just proved you have no knowledge of bodybuilding. Ahaha that was the dumbest shit ever typed on Getbig!!!!!
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: IceCold on December 01, 2006, 01:28:22 PM
The tear argument's distracting & misleading-neither arm was above blah:


do we need to post this years pics of coleman.

where he tore his tri and lat - his 2 best bodyparts are now shit.

at least yates' arm were never his strong point where as with coleman's back and arms were his signatures.

are you a hypocrite with everything?
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: pobrecito on December 01, 2006, 02:18:50 PM
my god, Coleman looked like rotting dogshit in 2002. Way worse than Dorian in 1997.

Dorian never had a visible gut during his posing routine, much less when actually hitting a mandatory.

Now I will patiently wait for pumpster to post pictures backstage, and after yates has won the contest.

Problem for him is, there is irrefutably video of Dorian posing at his worst in 97 and Ronnie 30lbs smaller and Dorian had no visible distention compared to a beach ball for coleman :-X
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 01, 2006, 02:46:01 PM
You know I never seen his routine from 1997 and I just seen pics of the contest , I seen a few brief clips from 97 but he was much more impressive than pics let on , he was absolutely huge and dry but you could see the atrophy of his tricep clear, he look great in the front latspread , ab-thigh , side chest , side triceps and rear latspread , Nasser could beat him from the front but the sides and back forget it.
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: davie on December 01, 2006, 03:05:43 PM
I was wandering how/why he tore both the tri and bi??

ALso i am a fan of dorian, but compared to other body parts his chest doesnt look to great??

davie
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 01, 2006, 03:09:42 PM
I was wandering how/why he tore both the tri and bi??

ALso i am a fan of dorian, but compared to other body parts his chest doesnt look to great??

davie

His chest is fantastic when he was at his best.
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: Dballn247 on December 01, 2006, 03:14:17 PM
Wicked dry christmas tree also.  Saw him in person at a guest posing two weeks after the O in Orlando in 97.  Huge and Dry.
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: Theoak* on December 01, 2006, 05:41:18 PM


thanks for posting an OFFSEASON shot of ronnie. 

WTF, what kind of offseason pic shows that level of cuts mass and conditioning? That is not an offseason pic, clearly demonstrates coleman making dorian look like hes little bitch.
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: body88 on December 01, 2006, 05:47:48 PM
WTF, what kind of offseason pic shows that level of cuts mass and conditioning? That is not an offseason pic, clearly demonstrates coleman making dorian look like hes little bitch.


You are correct about the picture not being in the offseason. But the video of doz clearly shows him at his worst looking way better than the video of Ronnie in 2002. In this argument Yates makes coleman his bitch.



Video does not lie lie. Ronnie looked extremely bad from all angles with his midsection showing in 02. Quit a disgrace actually. You can find picture of anyone with a gut. The video tells the true tale : (


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xq8ad_2002
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: Theoak* on December 01, 2006, 05:50:29 PM

You are correct about the picture not being in the offseason. But the video of doz clearly shows him at his worst looking way better than the video of Ronnie in 2002. In this argument Yates makes coleman his bitch.

I did watch the 2002 clip and ronnie does look terrible but would like to see him compared to the other competitors. If im not mistaken most of the contestants that year were off too?
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: body88 on December 01, 2006, 05:52:25 PM
I did watch the 2002 clip and ronnie does look terrible but would like to see him compared to the other competitors. If im not mistaken most of the contestants that year were off too?


I do not know. I was referring to the direct comparison if Yates and Coleman at there respective worst showings. I think at his start Ronnie possessed the greatest bodybuilding physique ever. The latter years is what I am referring to when I speak of him negatively.
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: Theoak* on December 01, 2006, 05:54:44 PM

I do not know. I was referring to the direct comparison if Yates and Coleman at there respective worst showings. I think at his start Ronnie possessed the greatest bodybuilding physique ever. The latter years is what I am referring to when I speak of him negatively.

Well I agree with you there :).
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: body88 on December 01, 2006, 05:56:56 PM
Well I agree with you there :).

In 1998- 99  Ronnie was fantastic. Just unreal. I admit it all the time.
Title: Re: dorian yates poisng at MR OLYMPIA 1997 clip..
Post by: Hulkster on December 01, 2006, 08:42:59 PM
In 1998- 99  Ronnie was fantastic. Just unreal. I admit it all the time.

of course he was.

Dorian  97 on the other hand, was huge, but did not look good at all.

that front double bi at the beginning is one of the worst I have ever seen overall.

he had wide lats, but piss poor arms, quads, chest - the usual yatesian flaws.