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http://www.911podcasts.com/files/audio/Eminem_-_The_Re-Up_-_17_Public_Enemy_1.mp3
New Eminem Track References Wire Tapping, Political Assassinations, and 9/11
A track entitled 'Public Enemy #1' on Eminem's upcoming mixtape The Re-up caught my ear this afternoon. The track features a simple almost militant style beat somewhat similar in tone to his last politically motivated track Mosh. While Mosh (which New York magazine called “the most important piece of mainstream dissent since the 60s”) alluded to 9/11 via caricatures of Bush reading 'My Pet Goat' and newspaper clippings on 9/11 (including the infamous 'Bush Knew' New York Post article), this new track goes into much darker subjects.
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Eminem's a smart dude. Props for knowing what the fuck is going on.
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Very Good! ;D
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I don't care where you on the issues, and any of us could be wrong about anything. Anything that gets people asking Qs and seeking truth is a good thing.
What this does is motivate a hell of a lot of kids to start asking questions. Eminem's new record is supposed to be very political and he's working with a few musicians who are in the 911 truth movement. He hasn't spoken publicly on it yet, but his association with those involved, and these lyrics (and MOSH - if you haven't heard it, download the video - it'll fuckin floor ya!) shows he's definitely in the neighborhood. "Bush Knew" in his Mosh video.. that shit was unreal.
He'll sell LESS records this way. than if he just rapped about poppin pills, etc. But you're going to have ten million kids googling the words he speaks to learn more. And he's doing what he thinks is right.
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But really, I don't beat the 911 drum anymore - everyone here is aware of the concept and can research it if they want. Yall stop bringing it up, and unless there's something big in the news, I won't bring it up either.
Really?
YIP
Zack
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Really?
YIP
Zack
240 you care to respond to this? :P
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Really?
YIP
Zack
Yes. Eminem is a major figure in the entertainment scene. This is a new track. it's news :)
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This gives even less credability to your 911 nonsense.
Eminem ::) ROFL...
Only in america kids!
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This gives even less credability to your 911 nonsense.
Eminem ::) ROFL...
Only in america kids!
Al Gore said yesterday that Bush knew about it ahead of time.
Do you feel Al Gore has any credibility?
Hmm.
Al Gore yesterday, Eminem today.
Seems this issue is starting to get a lot of hits from people on all ends of the spectrum.
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eminem, charlie sheen, these geniuses
(http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/0/0/2/8/11818200-11818203-slarge.jpg)
monster credibility ::)
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Eminem's a smart dude. Props for knowing what the f**k is going on.
No his not, dude is now complaining about Bush, but never voted (I believe in 2000). I don't think he sould be complain, when shit hits the fan and you don't do anything about it. Em is just on the Bandwagon, if was really smart he would have joined Jada Kiss on his "Why" remix.
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Dr Robert Bowman. Father of the Star Wars Defense Program, called for a second 911 Investigation.
A former Director of Advanced Space Programs Development for the U.S. Air Force in the Ford and Carter administrations, and a former United States Air Force Lieutenant Colonel with 101 combat missions. He holds a Ph.D. in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from the California Institute of Technology.
Monster Credibility? ;)
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Morgan O. Reynolds is professor emeritus at Texas A&M University and former director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis headquartered in Dallas, TX.
He served as chief economist for the United States Department of Labor during 2001–2002, George W. Bush's first term. In 2005, he gained public attention as the first prominent government official to publicly claim that 9/11 was an "inside job," and is a member of Scholars for 9/11 Truth.
Monster Credibility?
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Here you will find many repubs and dems, CIA and military, young and old, many with a great deal of knowledge on the workings of governments:
Virginia Deane Abernethy, Ph.D., anthropologist, author, Population Politics
Ed Asner, actor, activist
Marshall Auerback, international portfolio strategist for David W. Tice & Associates, Inc.
Catherine Austin Fitts, Asst. Secretary of Housing in the first Bush administration
Keidi Obi Awadu, aka The Conscious Rasta, talk show host, LIBRadio
Michael Badnarik, Libertarian candidate for President
Byron Belitsos, publisher, Origin Press, author Planetary Democracy
Philip J. Berg, Esquire, former deputy attorney general, Pennsylvania
Medea Benjamin, activist, author, co-founder, Global Exchange and Code Pink
Dennis Bernstein, investigative reporter, radio host of KPFA's Flashpoints
Steve Bhaerman aka Swami Beyondananda, author, political comedian
Brad Blanton, Ph.D., psychotherapist, author, Radical Honesty
Saniel Bonder, spiritual teacher and author, Great Relief
Dr. Robert Bowman, USAF Lt. Col. (Rtd.), founder, Institute for Space and Security Studies
John Buchanan, author, candidate for the Republican Party Presidential nomination, 2004
Gray Brechin, Ph.D., author, environmental historian, professor, UC Berkeley
Fred Burks, presidential interpreter for Bush, Clinton, Cheney, and Gore
Norma Carr-Rufino, Ph.D., author, professor of management, San Francisco State University
Angana Chatterji, Ph.D., scholar-activist and professor of anthropology
Paul Cienfuegos, co-founder, Democracy Unlimited of Humboldt County
David Cobb, attorney, national presidential candidate, US Green Party
John Cobb, Ph.D., theologian, co-author, For the Common Good
Ernest Callenbach, founder/editor, Film Quarterly, author, Ecotopia
Kevin Danaher, Ph.D., author, speaker, co-founder, Global Exchange
Stephen Dinan, author, Radical Spirit
Bill Doyle, advocate for 9/11 families, father of Joseph Doyle, Cantor Fitzgerald employee
Ronnie Dugger, journalist/author, co-founder, Alliance for Democracy
Rachel Ehrenfeld, Ph.D., Director, American Center for Democracy, author, Funding Evil
Daniel Ellsberg, author, Secrets: A Memoir of Vietnam and the Pentagon Papers
Jodie Evans, president, Code Pink
Richard Falk, Professor Emeritus of International Law, Princeton University
Michael Franti, musician, filmmaker, human rights worker
Jim Garrison, Ph.D., president, State of the World Forum, author, America as Empire
Bruce Gagnon, Chair, Global Network Against Weapons & Nuclear Power in Space
Ric Giardina, author, consultant, speaker, former Director of Trademarks and Brands for Intel
John Gray, Ph.D., #1 bestselling author, Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus
Stan Goff, 25-year Army Special Ops veteran, author, Full Spectrum Disorder
Melvin Goodman, senior fellow, Center for International Policy, author, former Senior Analyst, CIA, professor, National War College
Morton Goulder, Deputy Secretary for Intelligence and Warning under Nixon, Ford, and Carter
David Ray Griffin, Ph.D., theologian, author, New Pearl Harbor
Doris "Granny D" Haddock, campaign finance crusader, NH Democratic candidate for Senate
Thom Hartmann, radio host; author, Unequal Protection
Richie Havens, singer, songwriter, performer, artist
Paul Hawken, bestselling author, environmentalist, entrepreneur, founder of Smith & Hawken
Randy Hayes, founder, Rainforest Action Network, US National Director, Direction Conservation
Richard Heinberg, author, The Party's Over, core faculty, New College of California
Van Jones, executive director, Ella Baker Center for Human Rights
Rob Kall, editor, OpEdNews.com, president, Futurehealth, Inc.
Georgia Kelly, executive director, Praxis Peace Institute
Sean Kelly, Ph.D., author, professor of philosophy and religion, CA Institute of Integral Studies
John Joseph Kennedy, Democratic Write-in Presidential Candidate for 2004
Mimi Kennedy, actress, Dharma and Greg, progressive activist
Faiz Khan, M.D., Triage Emergency Physician on 9/11, Assistant Imam
David Korten, author, When Corporations Rule the World
France Moore Lappé, author, Diet for a Small Planet; founder, Small Planet Institute
Scott M. Legere, 25 year radio broadcaster as Scott Ledger, Tampa FL
Rabbi Michael Lerner, editor, TIKKUN Magazine, author, Healing Israel/Palestine
Michael Levine, bestselling author of Deep Cover, journalist, 25-year veteran of the DEA
Joanna Macy, Ph.D., eco-philosopher, author
Enver Masud, founder, The Wisdom Fund, author, The Truth About Islam
John McCarthy, former Special Forces Captain, president, Veterans Equal Rights Protection Advocacy
Ray McGovern, former CIA analyst, co-founder, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity
Cynthia McKinney, five-term Congresswoman from Georgia
Ralph Metzner, Ph.D., author, professor, co-founder, Green Earth Foundation
Mark Crispin Miller, media critic, author, professor, New York University
Joseph W. Montaperto, New York City Fire Department
Leuren Moret, geoscientist, radiation specialist, environmental commissioner
Ralph Nader, Independent candidate for President
Craig Neal, author, co-founder, The Heartland Institute, former publisher, Utne Reader
Jeff Norman, executive director, Tour of Duty
Jenna Orkin, Esquire, World Trade Center Environmental Organization
Kelly Patricia O'Meara, investigative journalist, public relations
Michael Parenti, Ph.D., author, Superpatriotism and The Terrorism Trap
Edward L. Peck, former US Ambassador and Chief of Mission to Iraq, former Deputy Director to the White House Task Force on Terrorism
Peter Phillips, Ph.D., professor, Sonoma State University, director, Project Censored
Henri Poole, Internet pioneer, board member, Free Software Foundation
Robert Rabbin, author, speaker, creator of TruthForPresident.org
Paul H. Ray, Ph.D., sociologist, author, The Cultural Creatives
John Renesch, business futurist, author, Getting to the Better Future
John Rensenbrink, professor emeritus, Bowdoin College, co-founder, US Green Party
John Robbins, author, founder, EarthSave International
William Rodriguez, 9/11 rescue effort hero, founder, Hispanic Victims Group
Neal Rogin, Emmy-award winning writer, performer, social observer
Allen Roland, Ph.D., psychotherapist, published author and peace activist
Rosemary Radford Ruether, professor of feminist theology, Graduate Theological Union
Michael Ruppert, publisher/editor, From The Wilderness, author, Crossing the Rubicon
Chris Sanders, founder, Sanders Research Associates
Karl W. B. Schwarz, President, CEO, Patmos Nanotechnologies, LLC
Peter Dale Scott, Ph.D., Professor Emeritus, author, Drugs, Oil, and War
Firefighter Kevin Shea, FDNY Hazmat Operations
Michelle Shocked, singer/songwriter, activist
Indira Singh, risk management and computer systems consultant
J. Michael Springmann, attorney, former Foreign Service Officer, US Department of State
Douglas Sturm, Ph.D., university professor emeritus, Bucknell University
Marjorie Hewit Suchocki, Ph.D., theologian, author
Chuck Turner, Boston City Council
James W. Walter Jr., venture investor, philanthropist, founder of Walden Three
Dan Whaley, E-commerce pioneer, founder of GetThere.com, acquired for $750M
Burns H. Weston, J.S.D., Professor of Law Emeritus, Director, Center for Human Rights, U-Iowa
Howard Zinn, professor, historian, author, A People’s History of the United States
Monster Credibility? ;)
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hahahahahahahahahahah good source lib!!!!!!!!!1
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Anything that gets people asking Qs and seeking truth is a good thing.
More info on wire taps with actual examples of a couple of US Customs phone taps that you can listen to: www.musclemissions.org/public/130.cfm
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Here you will find many repubs and dems, CIA and military, young and old, many with a great deal of knowledge on the workings of governments:
Virginia Deane Abernethy, Ph.D., anthropologist, author, Population Politics
Ed Asner, actor, activist
Marshall Auerback, international portfolio strategist for David W. Tice & Associates, Inc.
Catherine Austin Fitts, Asst. Secretary of Housing in the first Bush administration
Keidi Obi Awadu, aka The Conscious Rasta, talk show host, LIBRadio
Michael Badnarik, Libertarian candidate for President
Byron Belitsos, publisher, Origin Press, author Planetary Democracy
Philip J. Berg, Esquire, former deputy attorney general, Pennsylvania
Medea Benjamin, activist, author, co-founder, Global Exchange and Code Pink
Dennis Bernstein, investigative reporter, radio host of KPFA's Flashpoints
Steve Bhaerman aka Swami Beyondananda, author, political comedian
Brad Blanton, Ph.D., psychotherapist, author, Radical Honesty
Saniel Bonder, spiritual teacher and author, Great Relief
Dr. Robert Bowman, USAF Lt. Col. (Rtd.), founder, Institute for Space and Security Studies
John Buchanan, author, candidate for the Republican Party Presidential nomination, 2004
Gray Brechin, Ph.D., author, environmental historian, professor, UC Berkeley
Fred Burks, presidential interpreter for Bush, Clinton, Cheney, and Gore
Norma Carr-Rufino, Ph.D., author, professor of management, San Francisco State University
Angana Chatterji, Ph.D., scholar-activist and professor of anthropology
Paul Cienfuegos, co-founder, Democracy Unlimited of Humboldt County
David Cobb, attorney, national presidential candidate, US Green Party
John Cobb, Ph.D., theologian, co-author, For the Common Good
Ernest Callenbach, founder/editor, Film Quarterly, author, Ecotopia
Kevin Danaher, Ph.D., author, speaker, co-founder, Global Exchange
Stephen Dinan, author, Radical Spirit
Bill Doyle, advocate for 9/11 families, father of Joseph Doyle, Cantor Fitzgerald employee
Ronnie Dugger, journalist/author, co-founder, Alliance for Democracy
Rachel Ehrenfeld, Ph.D., Director, American Center for Democracy, author, Funding Evil
Daniel Ellsberg, author, Secrets: A Memoir of Vietnam and the Pentagon Papers
Jodie Evans, president, Code Pink
Richard Falk, Professor Emeritus of International Law, Princeton University
Michael Franti, musician, filmmaker, human rights worker
Jim Garrison, Ph.D., president, State of the World Forum, author, America as Empire
Bruce Gagnon, Chair, Global Network Against Weapons & Nuclear Power in Space
Ric Giardina, author, consultant, speaker, former Director of Trademarks and Brands for Intel
John Gray, Ph.D., #1 bestselling author, Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus
Stan Goff, 25-year Army Special Ops veteran, author, Full Spectrum Disorder
Melvin Goodman, senior fellow, Center for International Policy, author, former Senior Analyst, CIA, professor, National War College
Morton Goulder, Deputy Secretary for Intelligence and Warning under Nixon, Ford, and Carter
David Ray Griffin, Ph.D., theologian, author, New Pearl Harbor
Doris "Granny D" Haddock, campaign finance crusader, NH Democratic candidate for Senate
Thom Hartmann, radio host; author, Unequal Protection
Richie Havens, singer, songwriter, performer, artist
Paul Hawken, bestselling author, environmentalist, entrepreneur, founder of Smith & Hawken
Randy Hayes, founder, Rainforest Action Network, US National Director, Direction Conservation
Richard Heinberg, author, The Party's Over, core faculty, New College of California
Van Jones, executive director, Ella Baker Center for Human Rights
Rob Kall, editor, OpEdNews.com, president, Futurehealth, Inc.
Georgia Kelly, executive director, Praxis Peace Institute
Sean Kelly, Ph.D., author, professor of philosophy and religion, CA Institute of Integral Studies
John Joseph Kennedy, Democratic Write-in Presidential Candidate for 2004
Mimi Kennedy, actress, Dharma and Greg, progressive activist
Faiz Khan, M.D., Triage Emergency Physician on 9/11, Assistant Imam
David Korten, author, When Corporations Rule the World
France Moore Lappé, author, Diet for a Small Planet; founder, Small Planet Institute
Scott M. Legere, 25 year radio broadcaster as Scott Ledger, Tampa FL
Rabbi Michael Lerner, editor, TIKKUN Magazine, author, Healing Israel/Palestine
Michael Levine, bestselling author of Deep Cover, journalist, 25-year veteran of the DEA
Joanna Macy, Ph.D., eco-philosopher, author
Enver Masud, founder, The Wisdom Fund, author, The Truth About Islam
John McCarthy, former Special Forces Captain, president, Veterans Equal Rights Protection Advocacy
Ray McGovern, former CIA analyst, co-founder, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity
Cynthia McKinney, five-term Congresswoman from Georgia
Ralph Metzner, Ph.D., author, professor, co-founder, Green Earth Foundation
Mark Crispin Miller, media critic, author, professor, New York University
Joseph W. Montaperto, New York City Fire Department
Leuren Moret, geoscientist, radiation specialist, environmental commissioner
Ralph Nader, Independent candidate for President
Craig Neal, author, co-founder, The Heartland Institute, former publisher, Utne Reader
Jeff Norman, executive director, Tour of Duty
Jenna Orkin, Esquire, World Trade Center Environmental Organization
Kelly Patricia O'Meara, investigative journalist, public relations
Michael Parenti, Ph.D., author, Superpatriotism and The Terrorism Trap
Edward L. Peck, former US Ambassador and Chief of Mission to Iraq, former Deputy Director to the White House Task Force on Terrorism
Peter Phillips, Ph.D., professor, Sonoma State University, director, Project Censored
Henri Poole, Internet pioneer, board member, Free Software Foundation
Robert Rabbin, author, speaker, creator of TruthForPresident.org
Paul H. Ray, Ph.D., sociologist, author, The Cultural Creatives
John Renesch, business futurist, author, Getting to the Better Future
John Rensenbrink, professor emeritus, Bowdoin College, co-founder, US Green Party
John Robbins, author, founder, EarthSave International
William Rodriguez, 9/11 rescue effort hero, founder, Hispanic Victims Group
Neal Rogin, Emmy-award winning writer, performer, social observer
Allen Roland, Ph.D., psychotherapist, published author and peace activist
Rosemary Radford Ruether, professor of feminist theology, Graduate Theological Union
Michael Ruppert, publisher/editor, From The Wilderness, author, Crossing the Rubicon
Chris Sanders, founder, Sanders Research Associates
Karl W. B. Schwarz, President, CEO, Patmos Nanotechnologies, LLC
Peter Dale Scott, Ph.D., Professor Emeritus, author, Drugs, Oil, and War
Firefighter Kevin Shea, FDNY Hazmat Operations
Michelle Shocked, singer/songwriter, activist
Indira Singh, risk management and computer systems consultant
J. Michael Springmann, attorney, former Foreign Service Officer, US Department of State
Douglas Sturm, Ph.D., university professor emeritus, Bucknell University
Marjorie Hewit Suchocki, Ph.D., theologian, author
Chuck Turner, Boston City Council
James W. Walter Jr., venture investor, philanthropist, founder of Walden Three
Dan Whaley, E-commerce pioneer, founder of GetThere.com, acquired for $750M
Burns H. Weston, J.S.D., Professor of Law Emeritus, Director, Center for Human Rights, U-Iowa
Howard Zinn, professor, historian, author, A People’s History of the United States
Monster Credibility? ;)
so what. doesnt change anything. it happened and its over. i dont care whose fault it is.
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This gives even less credability to your 911 nonsense.
Eminem ::) ROFL...
Only in america kids!
ROFLMAO ;D
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That list is a joke.
If I really tried I could get a list like that, saying they want the government to investigate what blocked my toilette last week :-X
You think that list of people justifies the government spending millions on an investigation paid for by the tax payer?
"Enver Masud, founder, The Wisdom Fund, author, The Truth About Islam" ::)
http://www.twf.org/
You think this guy has any real motive other than he doesn't think islamist ideals are responsible for 911? You think he's unbiased? ::) Give me a break pot head.
Haha, major no credibility. Your whole life is a gimmick at this point 240.
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the most patriotic thing an american can do is question there governments actions
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the most patriotic thing an american can do is question there governments actions
Yawn
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jadakiss, the game, mos def are also 9/11 truthers. I read tonight that eminem has been doing more work for them. talking about getting him on the Loose Change Final Cut soundstrack/movie intro.
wouldn't that be some major shit? Could MTV really pass up such a monumental video/project from their white dimpled cash register of a rapper? Could MTV audiences wake up to 9/11 Truth as a result? If it turns out to be an inside job and his involvement is a catalyst for change, will he end up being one of the most influential artists of all time (many have causes - but Loose Change final cut coming out in theaters is going to open up a lot of eyes to a cause perhaps bigger than all of the rest.)
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jadakiss, the game, mos def are also 9/11 truthers. I read tonight that eminem has been doing more work for them. talking about getting him on the Loose Change Final Cut soundstrack/movie intro.
ROFLMAO!
You're kidding? Really mate, you're kidding now right? :-\
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You're kidding? Really mate, you're kidding now right? :-\
No. Loose Change Final Cut will be released in US theaters this spring, in addition to being available for free download online and on google video.
I know you think this little crazy conspiracy is just that. But statistically, there are tens of millions of Americans who really believe the US Govt was complicit in the attacks. And an even larger number believe Bush knew and did nothing. Nordic, there has to be *something* that keeps winning over all these republicans too- Most 911 skeptics are repubs. We don't just change parties andstart disliking bush out of boredom.
And if you don't think, mate, that Eminem looking at the camera and saying "America - your own country did 9/11" won't have a HUGE effect on tens of millions of unexposed kids and young adults, you're just being naive. If Eminem does this, it's going to be major.
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And if you don't think, mate, that Eminem looking at the camera and saying "America - your own country did 9/11" won't have a HUGE effect on tens of millions of unexposed kids and young adults, you're just being naive. If Eminem does this, it's going to be major.
The only people he can convince are idiots. If you need idiots on your team to win then so be it.
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The only people he can convince are idiots. If you need idiots on your team to win then so be it.
When 95% of Americans believe it's an inside job, will there only be 15 million non-idiots left? Will all 285 million people be idiots?
Didn't people used to be called idiots when they said the Earth wasn't the center of the universe? Didn't people used to be called idiots for a lot of things since proven untrue by science and investigation? I bet you would have been cheering the loudest for that idiot Copernicus to be hanged for suggesting the Universe didn't rotate around the sun, huh?
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When 95% of Americans believe it's an inside job, will there only be 15 million non-idiots left? Will all 285 million people be idiots?
Didn't people used to be called idiots when they said the Earth wasn't the center of the universe? Didn't people used to be called idiots for a lot of things since proven untrue by science and investigation? I bet you would have been cheering the loudest for that idiot Copernicus to be hanged for suggesting the Universe didn't rotate around the sun, huh?
You don't get my point IDIOT :P
My point was, anyone who gets convinced by the political opinions of Eminem is an idiot.
People aren't idiots for believing 911 was an inside job.
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i agree. but eminem will get millions of kids to look at the issue for 5 minutes, where a Webster Tarpley will not.
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jadakiss, the game, mos def are also 9/11 truthers. I read tonight that eminem has been doing more work for them. talking about getting him on the Loose Change Final Cut soundstrack/movie intro.
wouldn't that be some major shit? Could MTV really pass up such a monumental video/project from their white dimpled cash register of a rapper? Could MTV audiences wake up to 9/11 Truth as a result? If it turns out to be an inside job and his involvement is a catalyst for change, will he end up being one of the most influential artists of all time (many have causes - but Loose Change final cut coming out in theaters is going to open up a lot of eyes to a cause perhaps bigger than all of the rest.)
If he did, he just might be,
that Eminem looking at the camera and saying "America - your own country did 9/11" won't have a HUGE effect on tens of millions of unexposed kids and young adults, you're just being naive. If Eminem does this, it's going to be major.
If he did this, it might backfire, or he might get his deathwish that he always wanted.
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This M&N boy should stick to talking about the teeny boppers he dislikes or his rival rappers or his passion for hating homosexuals or his love for gangster-prankster rappers. This trasher should remind the public how much he hates his poor mother.
It is much easier to ignore his conspiracy driven beliefs about the world trade center attacks than it was to ignore his mtv driven music during the summer 2000 when he enjoyed the spotlight being the great white dope of rap. This trailer park kid didn't care about politics when he was sitting on top of the music world until he woke up one morning and saw what happened in Zoo York City. This shady street punk should make another music video to pretend like he's in a Osama tape to amuse himself and act like a person who needs pyschotropic drugs instead of his ecstacy pills.
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If he did this, it might backfire, or he might get his deathwish that he always wanted.
Why would they kill him? If he's wrong, he's just anohter idiot with crazy theories. If he's correct, and shot for it, he would - seriously - become the poor man's Martin Luther King for this generation. I know, he's nowhere near the dignatary... but you dno't see cats getting knocked off for political messages anymore. It would legitimize the cause and let everyone in the world know that he was right. With the neocons all cashing in their chips and returning to the private sector, they want as little attention as possible.
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Why would they kill him? If he's wrong, he's just anohter idiot with crazy theories. If he's correct, and shot for it, he would - seriously - become the poor man's Martin Luther King for this generation. I know, he's nowhere near the dignatary... but you dno't see cats getting knocked off for political messages anymore. It would legitimize the cause and let everyone in the world know that he was right. With the neocons all cashing in their chips and returning to the private sector, they want as little attention as possible.
What the FUCK are you talking about?
You lower Martin Luther King to the level of Eminem? Come on 240 go see a fucking specialist you crazy cunt!
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You're lower Martin Luther King to the level of Eminem? Come on 240 go see a fucking specialist you crazy cunt!
STFU you illiterate racist :)
I said he was nowhere near the dignitary. MLK was a voice for a generation during the Civil Rights movement, one of the biggest social movements in US history. Is there any doubt in your mind that 1) 911 coming out as an inside job wouldn't be one of the biggest historical events of our lifetimes, and 2) a mature, educated Eminem would get as much TV airtime as he wanted on the topic?
A lot of idiots grow up into incredible political power. What was Arnold doing in 1975? What's he doing now? Smart people have fun when they're young then get a cause/goal and have the finances and drive to become powerful in that as well. Re-read what I wrote. Slim Shaky has been a mess, sure. But put a focused, aggressive Eminem on a mic armed with details of 9/11 and the cameras will love him.
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Back pedalling.
Prove I'm a racist. I don't find it funny you labelling me as one.
Eminem is not educated or intelligent in the area of politics. Your argument holds no ground. He is no comparison to MLK in ANY way.
Refute this.
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Al Gore said yesterday that Bush knew about it ahead of time.
Do you feel Al Gore has any credibility?
Hmm.
Al Gore yesterday, Eminem today.
Seems this issue is starting to get a lot of hits from people on all ends of the spectrum.
No, actually their on the same side of the spectrum, you have a wannabe thug and a bullshit artist who, like most people on the left will say anything that will hurt the administration, no, Gore lost his credibility along time ago with his screaming rants (a la Howard Dean) about saying derogatory things about our government when speaking in other countries, thats being a traitor. Taking bribes from Buddist monks doesn't help either......he has as much credibility as Eminem, Striesand, Alec Baldwin and the rest of the Hollywood entertainment left wing wack jobs!!
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Back pedalling.
Prove I'm a racist. I don't find it funny you labelling me as one.
Okay, my apologies, you're not a racist. What do you call someone who calls for the execution of a billion people because of their religion? that's what you are :)
Eminem is not educated or intelligent in the area of politics. Your argument holds no ground. He is no comparison to MLK in ANY way.
yes, I contend that he is. Have you seen the work he's done in the last two years? His new record is supposed to delve deep into the current political situation of the world, US policy of aggression, the secrets of 9/11 and motivations for war, etc. Yes, Eminem has changed a lot from the mom-killing pill popping thug of 1998.
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he has as much credibility as Eminem, Striesand, Alec Baldwin and the rest of the Hollywood entertainment left wing wack jobs!!
Fair enough. How would you characterize the growing list of prominent republicans who have called 911 an inside job?
Many of them have been vital parts of the Reagan, bush 1, and even Bush 2 white houses - people who are lifelong republicans, military men, intelligence agency men, etc. I can understand blowing off liberals who claim it was an inside job. But when someone respected as a republican calls it an inside job, how would you address that?
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Fair enough. How would you characterize the growing list of prominent republicans who have called 911 an inside job?
Many of them have been vital parts of the Reagan, bush 1, and even Bush 2 white houses - people who are lifelong republicans, military men, intelligence agency men, etc. I can understand blowing off liberals who claim it was an inside job. But when someone respected as a republican calls it an inside job, how would you address that?
Like who?
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Like who?
I could wiki each of them and sort out the Repubs from the Dems, but you'll immediately recognize some of them (bolded). All of these people have joined the 911 Scholars and have called for a second investigation. (There are others who have publicly questioned the story - these are the ones who put the pen to paper)
Here you will find many repubs and dems, CIA and military, young and old, many with a great deal of knowledge on the workings of governments:
Virginia Deane Abernethy, Ph.D., anthropologist, author, Population Politics
Ed Asner, actor, activist
Marshall Auerback, international portfolio strategist for David W. Tice & Associates, Inc.
Catherine Austin Fitts, Asst. Secretary of Housing in the first Bush administration
Keidi Obi Awadu, aka The Conscious Rasta, talk show host, LIBRadio
Michael Badnarik, Libertarian candidate for President
Byron Belitsos, publisher, Origin Press, author Planetary Democracy
Philip J. Berg, Esquire, former deputy attorney general, Pennsylvania
Medea Benjamin, activist, author, co-founder, Global Exchange and Code Pink
Dennis Bernstein, investigative reporter, radio host of KPFA's Flashpoints
Steve Bhaerman aka Swami Beyondananda, author, political comedian
Brad Blanton, Ph.D., psychotherapist, author, Radical Honesty
Saniel Bonder, spiritual teacher and author, Great Relief
Dr. Robert Bowman, USAF Lt. Col. (Rtd.), founder, Institute for Space and Security Studies
John Buchanan, author, candidate for the Republican Party Presidential nomination, 2004
Gray Brechin, Ph.D., author, environmental historian, professor, UC Berkeley
Fred Burks, presidential interpreter for Bush, Clinton, Cheney, and Gore
Norma Carr-Rufino, Ph.D., author, professor of management, San Francisco State University
Angana Chatterji, Ph.D., scholar-activist and professor of anthropology
Paul Cienfuegos, co-founder, Democracy Unlimited of Humboldt County
David Cobb, attorney, national presidential candidate, US Green Party
John Cobb, Ph.D., theologian, co-author, For the Common Good
Ernest Callenbach, founder/editor, Film Quarterly, author, Ecotopia
Kevin Danaher, Ph.D., author, speaker, co-founder, Global Exchange
Stephen Dinan, author, Radical Spirit
Bill Doyle, advocate for 9/11 families, father of Joseph Doyle, Cantor Fitzgerald employee
Ronnie Dugger, journalist/author, co-founder, Alliance for Democracy
Rachel Ehrenfeld, Ph.D., Director, American Center for Democracy, author, Funding Evil
Daniel Ellsberg, author, Secrets: A Memoir of Vietnam and the Pentagon Papers
Jodie Evans, president, Code Pink
Richard Falk, Professor Emeritus of International Law, Princeton University
Michael Franti, musician, filmmaker, human rights worker
Jim Garrison, Ph.D., president, State of the World Forum, author, America as Empire
Bruce Gagnon, Chair, Global Network Against Weapons & Nuclear Power in Space
Ric Giardina, author, consultant, speaker, former Director of Trademarks and Brands for Intel
John Gray, Ph.D., #1 bestselling author, Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus
Stan Goff, 25-year Army Special Ops veteran, author, Full Spectrum Disorder
Melvin Goodman, senior fellow, Center for International Policy, author, former Senior Analyst, CIA, professor, National War College
Morton Goulder, Deputy Secretary for Intelligence and Warning under Nixon, Ford, and Carter
David Ray Griffin, Ph.D., theologian, author, New Pearl Harbor
Doris "Granny D" Haddock, campaign finance crusader, NH Democratic candidate for Senate
Thom Hartmann, radio host; author, Unequal Protection
Richie Havens, singer, songwriter, performer, artist
Paul Hawken, bestselling author, environmentalist, entrepreneur, founder of Smith & Hawken
Randy Hayes, founder, Rainforest Action Network, US National Director, Direction Conservation
Richard Heinberg, author, The Party's Over, core faculty, New College of California
Van Jones, executive director, Ella Baker Center for Human Rights
Rob Kall, editor, OpEdNews.com, president, Futurehealth, Inc.
Georgia Kelly, executive director, Praxis Peace Institute
Sean Kelly, Ph.D., author, professor of philosophy and religion, CA Institute of Integral Studies
John Joseph Kennedy, Democratic Write-in Presidential Candidate for 2004
Mimi Kennedy, actress, Dharma and Greg, progressive activist
Faiz Khan, M.D., Triage Emergency Physician on 9/11, Assistant Imam
David Korten, author, When Corporations Rule the World
France Moore Lappé, author, Diet for a Small Planet; founder, Small Planet Institute
Scott M. Legere, 25 year radio broadcaster as Scott Ledger, Tampa FL
Rabbi Michael Lerner, editor, TIKKUN Magazine, author, Healing Israel/Palestine
Michael Levine, bestselling author of Deep Cover, journalist, 25-year veteran of the DEA
Joanna Macy, Ph.D., eco-philosopher, author
Enver Masud, founder, The Wisdom Fund, author, The Truth About Islam
John McCarthy, former Special Forces Captain, president, Veterans Equal Rights Protection Advocacy
Ray McGovern, former CIA analyst, co-founder, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity
Cynthia McKinney, five-term Congresswoman from Georgia
Ralph Metzner, Ph.D., author, professor, co-founder, Green Earth Foundation
Mark Crispin Miller, media critic, author, professor, New York University
Joseph W. Montaperto, New York City Fire Department
Leuren Moret, geoscientist, radiation specialist, environmental commissioner
Ralph Nader, Independent candidate for President
Craig Neal, author, co-founder, The Heartland Institute, former publisher, Utne Reader
Jeff Norman, executive director, Tour of Duty
Jenna Orkin, Esquire, World Trade Center Environmental Organization
Kelly Patricia O'Meara, investigative journalist, public relations
Michael Parenti, Ph.D., author, Superpatriotism and The Terrorism Trap
Edward L. Peck, former US Ambassador and Chief of Mission to Iraq, former Deputy Director to the White House Task Force on Terrorism
Peter Phillips, Ph.D., professor, Sonoma State University, director, Project Censored
Henri Poole, Internet pioneer, board member, Free Software Foundation
Robert Rabbin, author, speaker, creator of TruthForPresident.org
Paul H. Ray, Ph.D., sociologist, author, The Cultural Creatives
John Renesch, business futurist, author, Getting to the Better Future
John Rensenbrink, professor emeritus, Bowdoin College, co-founder, US Green Party
John Robbins, author, founder, EarthSave International
William Rodriguez, 9/11 rescue effort hero, founder, Hispanic Victims Group
Neal Rogin, Emmy-award winning writer, performer, social observer
Allen Roland, Ph.D., psychotherapist, published author and peace activist
Rosemary Radford Ruether, professor of feminist theology, Graduate Theological Union
Michael Ruppert, publisher/editor, From The Wilderness, author, Crossing the Rubicon
Chris Sanders, founder, Sanders Research Associates
Karl W. B. Schwarz, President, CEO, Patmos Nanotechnologies, LLC
Peter Dale Scott, Ph.D., Professor Emeritus, author, Drugs, Oil, and War
Firefighter Kevin Shea, FDNY Hazmat Operations
Michelle Shocked, singer/songwriter, activist
Indira Singh, risk management and computer systems consultant
J. Michael Springmann, attorney, former Foreign Service Officer, US Department of State
Douglas Sturm, Ph.D., university professor emeritus, Bucknell University
Marjorie Hewit Suchocki, Ph.D., theologian, author
Chuck Turner, Boston City Council
James W. Walter Jr., venture investor, philanthropist, founder of Walden Three
Dan Whaley, E-commerce pioneer, founder of GetThere.com, acquired for $750M
Burns H. Weston, J.S.D., Professor of Law Emeritus, Director, Center for Human Rights, U-Iowa
Howard Zinn, professor, historian, author, A People’s History of the United States
Monster Credibility? ;)
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yes, I contend that he is. Have you seen the work he's done in the last two years? His new record is supposed to delve deep into the current political situation of the world, US policy of aggression, the secrets of 9/11 and motivations for war, etc. Yes, Eminem has changed a lot from the mom-killing pill popping thug of 1998.
He's not educated you idiot. He has no political intelligence either you ass clown.
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Check this from your list:
Enver Masud, founder, The Wisdom Fund, author, The Truth About Islam
http://www.twf.org/
Note this on the website:
http://www.twf.org/Library/WaronIslam.html
There's a few muslims on that list, I wonder if their "faith" has anything to do with their stance on the issue? ::)
Seriously 240 get real.
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Nordic, did you ignore Robert Bowman, lifetime republican who was the father of the Star Wars missile defense program? He served under reagan, flew combat missions, worked as a congressional adviser for Bush 1, had a phd in nuclear something, and has been a lifetime hardcore conservative, all about killing the ruskies.
Well, they asked him to leave the party when he said that scientifically and militarily, the 9/11 attacks don't make sense. This is a man with a great deal of intel, exp, education, and training on many of the 9/11 days' events, and they pushed him out the door.
Please don't pick off the idiots on that list. Please stay on task and look at those repubs and those with a great deal of respect in all circles.
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Nordic, did you ignore Robert Bowman, lifetime republican who was the father of the Star Wars missile defense program? He served under reagan, flew combat missions, worked as a congressional adviser for Bush 1, had a phd in nuclear something, and has been a lifetime hardcore conservative, all about killing the ruskies.
Well, they asked him to leave the party when he said that scientifically and militarily, the 9/11 attacks don't make sense. This is a man with a great deal of intel, exp, education, and training on many of the 9/11 days' events, and they pushed him out the door.
Please don't pick off the idiots on that list. Please stay on task and look at those repubs and those with a great deal of respect in all circles.
I've said this before. It's easy to compile a list like that for almost any cause. You just deny this to be the reality.
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I've said this before. It's easy to compile a list like that for almost any cause. You just deny this to be the reality.
I don't follow. These people have signed the 911 Scholars' petition to have the 911 Investigation re-opened.
"Easy to compile this list"
Is it easy to get that many people to effectively throw away their careers and be labeled as loony? Is it easy to get them to destroy their political futures, be severed from their party, and other risks? Please tell me how "easy" it is to get a guy like Bowman to suddenly stop being a hardcore repub military planner and suddenly start being stupid?
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Bush Snr and Jnr gang banged his wife. He has a vendetta.
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Why would they kill him? If he's wrong, he's just anohter idiot with crazy theories. If he's correct, and shot for it, he would - seriously - become the poor man's Martin Luther King for this generation. I know, he's nowhere near the dignatary... but you dno't see cats getting knocked off for political messages anymore. It would legitimize the cause and let everyone in the world know that he was right. With the neocons all cashing in their chips and returning to the private sector, they want as little attention as possible.
Not so much as being shot, but more so of shooting himself in the foot, thereby alienating himself and becoming a pariah. Record sales go down, his drug usage up, loss of custody of his daughter, Slim Shady's future growing slimmer as time goes by, next thing you know. Suicide. He could "Push it to the Limit", like Rick Ross says, or he might just have grabbed a very big tiger by the tail. MLK and Malcolm were intelligent men who knew that the powers above were gunning for them, it was only a matter of time. They had a singular purpose.
Em on the other hand, is he doing this for record sales? Or does he sincerely care?
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Maybe he'll be "suicided" like HST
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2005/020305thompsonwarned.htm
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I could wiki each of them and sort out the Repubs from the Dems, but you'll immediately recognize some of them (bolded). All of these people have joined the 911 Scholars and have called for a second investigation. (There are others who have publicly questioned the story - these are the ones who put the pen to paper)
I'm not so sure that John Gray's opinion is that relevent.
How about MIT educated engineer and physicist (I think) Jeff King (would be cooler if it was Jeff King the BB)
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When you take on any political issue, you upset some people and inevitably lose business. Would I sell more websites if I never mentioned politics? Sure lol. But when you check out some day, you want to know that you did what you can to make a difference. And most people know that your religious/political views will never match everyon you work with. And since none of us is absolutely right on anything, you just shrug it off and work with the person who will bring the most value to your firm. If hiring a web guy for $1200 over me for $300 because I believe we need a second 911 investigation, hey, that's your perrogative.
Eminem is going to alienate some fans. Definitely. Some repubs will call him an idiot and never buy his stuff again. But if it causes ten million people to start asking questions, it's worth it to him for the $ he'll lose on sales. (He's set for life many times over anyway, so I don't know that making more $ from a party track would matter to him).
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Lee Hamilton - 911 Commission Co-Chair Explains Need for New Investigation
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Lee Hamilton - 911 Commission Co-Chair Explains Need for New Investigation
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Straw man, I am glad to have you here, my friend.
When you see things like this - when the men who HEADED the investigation tries to convince the American public that we need a new investigation, doesn't it just make sense?
I mean - how can anyone - from any party - put their faith in this investigation when the very men who ran it call it incomplete?
We need a second 911 investigation. There has been too much to come out, too many questions, and too many Americans who know they have been lied to. On Dec 23, 2008, Bush will probably be assignign a sealed blanket pardon to about 3000 people for 'national security actions over the last eight years.' On Jan 9, 2009, the White House will be releasing all 911 evidence (Part of 911 commish's agreement to hide it all, was that it can be released once bush leaves office.) From jan 9 to jan 20, Bush will lay very low, I'm guessing. On Jan 21, following inauguration, GWB and his family will take a much needed vacation to paraguay, to their 100,000 acre compound they just purchased.
I'm betting on jan 22, people are going to start coming forward, and by march 2009 the wheels will be turning for a second investigation.
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well I'm not sure about the rest of your predictions but I certainly agree that a 2nd investigation is warranted. Regarding Paraguay - I imagine that there is a lot of brush that needs to be cleared
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jadakiss, the game, mos def are also 9/11 truthers. I read tonight that eminem has been doing more work for them. talking about getting him on the Loose Change Final Cut soundstrack/movie intro.
wouldn't that be some major shit? Could MTV really pass up such a monumental video/project from their white dimpled cash register of a rapper? Could MTV audiences wake up to 9/11 Truth as a result? If it turns out to be an inside job and his involvement is a catalyst for change, will he end up being one of the most influential artists of all time (many have causes - but Loose Change final cut coming out in theaters is going to open up a lot of eyes to a cause perhaps bigger than all of the rest.)
lol I don't know about anyone else on here, but every time I hear about some breaking news the first thing that pops into my head is "fuck...I wonder what Eminem and The Game think about this?"
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lol I don't know about anyone else on here, but every time I hear about some breaking news the first thing that pops into my head is "f**k...I wonder what Eminem and The Game think about this?"
ahahahahahahahahahah hahahahha BWAAAA HAHAHAh
sadly, there are kids who cannot remember 5 words ever said by Bush, Clinton, Alex Jones, or Brian Williams. But they know every Game lyric and can list every Eminem tattoo, including the very cute "Rot in Pieces".
For kids like this - who completely disregard anything from a person in a tie - Eminem will speak the gospel. And their vote counts just as much as yours or mine!
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http://www.911podcasts.com/files/audio/Eminem_-_The_Re-Up_-_17_Public_Enemy_1.mp3
I gotta admit, this is ont of the better rap songs I've heard in a few years. Eminem has some seriously strong political wit and saavy. I don't think anyone here could deliver something this lyrically sharp on a political topic. If you're a rap fan, check it out.