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Title: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: MRMD2003 on December 03, 2006, 05:13:56 AM
who was better ? levrone or wheeler ?
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: bigkubby on December 03, 2006, 05:19:37 AM
WHEELER HE HAD MORE WINS LEVRONE WAS GREAT THOUGH.WHEELER WAS FLAWLESS EXCEPT FOR HIS CALVE IMPLANTS.HE HAS SMALL JOINTS LIKE MYSELF WITH ROUND MUSCLE INSERTIONS
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: Bluto on December 03, 2006, 05:49:25 AM
levrone
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 03, 2006, 05:50:58 AM
Flex
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: BuffD on December 03, 2006, 06:59:32 AM
Kevin Levrone had far more wins than Wheeler.  Only Ronnie Coleman and Vince Taylor have more wins than Levrone.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: Parker on December 03, 2006, 07:12:25 AM
Kevin Levrone had far more wins than Wheeler.  Only Ronnie Coleman and Vince Taylor have more wins than Levrone.

Exactly, Flex only had the bigger wins, and he only looked good as a pro  in 93, 97, and 98.

WHEELER WAS FLAWLESS EXCEPT FOR HIS CALVE IMPLANTS.

He never had implants, Shawn admits on here he was just saying that to get Flex off his game, to get into Flex's head.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: crome on December 03, 2006, 07:49:18 AM
i dont know if this has been spoken of earlier but what did flex mean in his video "mass construction", when he said "oh.. and a message to kevin levrone, I dont knock on doors I knock doors over"? :P
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: the shadow on December 03, 2006, 07:51:12 AM
kevin..he made flex look like his bitch
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: jmt1 on December 03, 2006, 09:00:24 AM
levrone
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: pumpster on December 03, 2006, 09:21:39 AM
Wheeler was the 2nd best BB of the last 2 decades, ahead of Haney & Yates. Going only on numbers of contests is fairly irrelevant.

Levrone great but more flawed. Couldn't match overall balance & aesthetics like this:
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: Kwon on December 03, 2006, 09:39:26 AM
Best combination of freakiness and symmetry in the 90's = Kev
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: the shadow on December 03, 2006, 09:40:48 AM
Wheeler was the 2nd best BB of the last 2 decades, ahead of Haney & Yates.

Levrone great but more flawed. Couldn't match overall balance & aesthetics like this:
flex wheeler=the most hypd SOB in the world...
kev made him look like his bitch
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: pumpster on December 03, 2006, 09:43:53 AM
flex wheeler=the most hypd SOB in the world...
kev made him look like his bitch

Shadow = proven poor judgement & lack of credibility.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: the shadow on December 03, 2006, 09:45:25 AM
Shadow = proven poor judgement & lack of credibility.
your comparing kevin levrone to a nobody...kevin makes wheeler look like a child
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on December 03, 2006, 09:47:18 AM
levrone
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: pumpster on December 03, 2006, 09:47:42 AM
your comparing kevin levrone to a nobody...kevin makes wheeler look like a child

Past contest results further discrediting this silly "analysis".  ;)
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: MCWAY on December 03, 2006, 09:57:10 AM
Exactly, Flex only had the bigger wins, and he only looked good as a pro  in 93, 97, and 98.

He never had implants, Shawn admits on here he was just saying that to get Flex off his game, to get into Flex's head.

Flex had 4 ASC wins ('93, '97, '98, '00), to Levrone's 2 wins ('94, '96). But, Levrone has 4 Olympia runner-up placings( '92, '95' '00, '02) to Wheeler's 3 silver-medal finishes ('93, '98, '99).

That's a tough one. They were both great.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: JasonH on December 03, 2006, 09:58:20 AM
Flex's physique.

But Levrone's attitude.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: Earl1972 on December 03, 2006, 10:38:19 AM
kevin

I do feel that flex is top 3 though

E
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: Fury on December 03, 2006, 10:40:13 AM
kevin

I do feel that flex is top 3 though

E

Shocking response from Earl.  ::)
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: Earl1972 on December 03, 2006, 10:43:27 AM
shocking that you responded to another one of my posts ::)

E
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on December 03, 2006, 11:16:25 AM
If Flex would have put more into his bodybuilding career he had the unreal genetics to not be touched by anyone...As stated by several pro's of his era....
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: natural al on December 03, 2006, 11:21:05 AM
Shadow = proven poor judgement & lack of credibility.

honestly why is it that anyone who sees things different from you have no credibility in your eyes?  You're credibility is in question because you're so close minded.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: Hulkster on December 03, 2006, 11:23:47 AM
Here's how I see it:

93 flex vs. 92/94 Kevin:

Front double bi: Flex -Kevin's arms did not look as good from the front directly as they did from the sides.

Side chest
- Kevin - not much needs to be said here.

Front lat spread
- Kevin - Kevin was visibly wider than flex, and had great quads to boot.

Rear lat spread - Kevin easily - this was flex's worst pose.

Side triceps: Kevin - probably his best post.

Rear double bi
- easily Flex - who has probably more detail in 93 than anyone in this pose.

most muscular
- Flex - better detail and muscle shape than kevin.

Ab and thigh
- Flex - few could match flex in this pose, and Kevin's abs were not a strong point.

Verdict: pose for pose its a tie, but Flex had better symmetry, so he would probably take it.

but it would be damn close.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: Scimowser on December 03, 2006, 11:36:40 AM
wheeler by synthol domination
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: bigkid on December 03, 2006, 11:42:01 AM
Levrone
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: natural al on December 03, 2006, 12:36:42 PM
I'll give it to Levrone overall.  Wheeler 93 was incredible but he never really matched that condition in my eyes.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: dawakaman on December 03, 2006, 12:53:35 PM
flex

peace
D
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: bigkubby on December 03, 2006, 02:46:59 PM
shadow can you come up with something new your lame
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: Delusional Liberal on December 03, 2006, 03:19:30 PM
levrone, hands down, no contest.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: Parker on December 03, 2006, 04:11:26 PM
i dont know if this has been spoken of earlier but what did flex mean in his video "mass construction", when he said "oh.. and a message to kevin levrone, I dont knock on doors I knock doors over"? :P

It was in "Hardbody", Kevin had apparantly had said, "I hear ya knocking..." So Flex said on is video, " Oh and a message to Kevin Levrone, I don't knock on doors, I knock doors over, motherf**ker!" 
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: AVBG on December 03, 2006, 04:17:43 PM
flex
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 03, 2006, 04:28:32 PM
Flex before the 1999 Mr Olympia and fuggin HUGE
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 03, 2006, 04:29:45 PM
Levrone looking huge
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: Hulkster on December 03, 2006, 04:31:18 PM
Flex before the 1999 Mr Olympia and fuggin HUGE

yes but at that point it was mostly oil.

he tried to play the size game with ronnie and lost miserably.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 03, 2006, 04:32:00 PM
Kev looking high  :P
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 03, 2006, 04:33:07 PM
yes but at that point it was mostly oil.

he tried to play the size game with ronnie and lost miserably.

He didn't need size to beat Ronnie  ;) eight times and every time he was lighter.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: Hulkster on December 03, 2006, 04:40:44 PM
He didn't need size to beat Ronnie  ;) eight times and every time he was lighter.

yeah, but Ronnie was lighter too..and nowhere near his prime.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 03, 2006, 04:44:05 PM
yeah, but Ronnie was lighter too..and nowhere near his prime.

he was always heavier than Flex , Flex was so far above and beyond Ronnie he didn't need to be bigger !!

Here is a quote from Flex Sep 1996 on Flexs' loss to Ronnie at the Canadian Pro

Having said that , its still a surprise Wheeler lost the show : his SUPERIOR STRUCTURE and posing , especially on the rear double biceps , rear latspread and side chest appeared to have pushed him over the top.the judges however , were quite stringent with the less-than-perfect Wheeler which was namely his hams and glutes
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: pumpster on December 03, 2006, 04:46:03 PM
honestly why is it that anyone who sees things different from you have no credibility in your eyes?  You're credibility is in question because you're so close minded.

Then you haven't seen all of Shadows posts, you judgemental naive twit. Take a break from your demonstrated need to criticize, stay on topic & look around at some of the other posts. Maybe it's the trolls like you who don't recognize it in others like Shadow.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: pumpster on December 03, 2006, 04:46:53 PM
I'll give it to Levrone overall.  Wheeler 93 was incredible but he never really matched that condition in my eyes.

Weak; typical lack of depth with no explanation of anything.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 03, 2006, 04:47:40 PM
Then you haven't seen all of his posts, you judgemental turd.

Wow pot calling the kettle black , pumpster is like Hulkster they base their opinions on their personal preferrences NOT on the criteria .
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 03, 2006, 04:48:52 PM
Weak; typical lack of depth with no explanation of anything.

LMFAO that describes everything you ever typed on this board  ;)
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: pumpster on December 03, 2006, 04:49:25 PM
Wow pot calling the kettle black , pumpster is like Hulkster they base their opinions on their personal preferrences NOT on the criteria .

ND is a demonstrated stalker who likes to keep it personal AKA veiled attraction.

Let's see how many more mindless posts with nothing to do with this thread this loser with no life will come up with. ;)
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 03, 2006, 04:50:06 PM
ND is a demonstrated stalker who likes to keep it personal AKA veiled attraction.

pumpster can bench 410 pounds for 15 reps lol
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: pobrecito on December 03, 2006, 04:50:51 PM
Flex before the 1999 Mr Olympia and fuggin HUGE

It's a pretty big problem when your arms are bigger than your lats :-\
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: pumpster on December 03, 2006, 04:51:00 PM
I want 5 more mindless asides from ND that prove only that he has no life. haahahahahahahaahahah
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 03, 2006, 04:53:03 PM
I want 5 more mindless asides from ND that prove only that he has no life. haahahahahahahaahahah

When someone owns a Bow Flex can they judge who has a life and who doesn't?  ;)
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: pumpster on December 03, 2006, 04:55:37 PM
When someone owns a Bow Flex can they judge who has a life and who doesn't?  ;)

I think what ND's saying is that he works for Bowflex-PM him for details. He's quite obviously as obsessed with them as he is attracted to pump. hahahahahaahahahahh


ND's pumpster obsession continues...
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 03, 2006, 04:56:18 PM
Kevin's awesome side chest
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 03, 2006, 04:58:09 PM
I think what ND's saying is that he works for Bowflex-PM him for details. He's quite obviously as obsessed with them as he is attracted to pump. hahahahahaahahahahh


ND's pumpster obsession continues...


I own you  ;) and why are you ashamed of your Bow Flex? lol
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 03, 2006, 05:02:59 PM
Kevin owning Ronnie in the sidechest
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: pobrecito on December 03, 2006, 05:04:11 PM
Levrone was robbed by the garbage can known as Coleman - 2000 and 2002. What a sham
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 03, 2006, 05:04:18 PM
Flex 1993
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 03, 2006, 05:04:55 PM
Levrone was robbed by the garbage can known as Coleman - 2000 and 2002. What a sham

2002 the crow wouldn't stop Booing when Ronnie was being awarded the first place medal !!
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: pumpster on December 03, 2006, 05:05:35 PM
Levrone was robbed by the garbage can known as Coleman - 2000 and 2002. What a sham

Moreso competing against Yates, both Wheeler & Levrone:
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 03, 2006, 05:07:47 PM
I heard Kev tore his pec doing 410 pounds bench presses on the Bow Flex for 15 full consecutive reps  ;)
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 03, 2006, 05:09:24 PM
Kevin looking massive
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: Hulkster on December 03, 2006, 05:17:38 PM
Kevin owning Ronnie in the sidechest

and Ronnie owning kevin in the entire upper body

 8)

(http://www.ronniecoleman.net/comp9913.jpg)
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 03, 2006, 05:20:16 PM
and Ronnie owning kevin in the entire upper body

 8)

(http://www.ronniecoleman.net/comp9913.jpg)

I'm afraid not about equal on size and kevin has a tighter midsecton  ;)
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: natural al on December 03, 2006, 05:29:48 PM
Then you haven't seen all of Shadows posts, you judgemental naive twit. Take a break from your demonstrated need to criticize, stay on topic & look around at some of the other posts. Maybe it's the trolls like you who don't recognize it in others like Shadow.

all you do in the truce thread is say everyone lacks credibility if thier opinion differs from yours, this thread is no different.  You're the most judgemental twit on this board, bar none.

as to why I would pick levrone:  First off, Levrone always brought it when it mattered, while his rookie year was not as impressive as Flex's it was still awsome.  3rd at the chicago show to Patel and Cotrel were the only blemishes.  He looked fantastic at the olympia at least as good as he was when he won the NOC.  Flex on the other hand slipped a little when it mattered and didn't show up at the O looking as good as he did in the spring shows.  Kevin came back from his pec tear and won the Arnold while Flex came back and from his auto accident and had-by his standards a terrible year finishing in the runner up spot at the arnold and then getting 8th at the 95 O.  kevin beat flex at the 96 Arnold by coming in totally huge and just out muscling him.  Kevin was the last guy to beat Ronnie before he won his first O and competed well up until 02, his pro career was longer and he won more shows, he also has more runner up spots at the O than Flex did and I don't hear many people saying kevin was great but he was just to lazy to maximize his body like they say about Flex.  Flex also depended too much on synthol towards the end of his career.  That's why I pic Kevin.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: Hulkster on December 03, 2006, 05:41:06 PM
I'm afraid not about equal on size and kevin has a tighter midsecton  ;)

equal on size but what about everything else?

if there is one shot where ronnie is owing kevin, its that one!

give Ronnie credit where credit is due!
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: Hulkster on December 03, 2006, 05:42:29 PM


as to why I would pick levrone:  First off, Levrone always brought it when it mattered, while his rookie year was not as impressive as Flex's it was still awsome.  3rd at the chicago show to Patel and Cotrel were the only blemishes.  He looked fantastic at the olympia at least as good as he was when he won the NOC.  Flex on the other hand slipped a little when it mattered and didn't show up at the O looking as good as he did in the spring shows.  Kevin came back from his pec tear and won the Arnold while Flex came back and from his auto accident and had-by his standards a terrible year finishing in the runner up spot at the arnold and then getting 8th at the 95 O.  kevin beat flex at the 96 Arnold by coming in totally huge and just out muscling him.  Kevin was the last guy to beat Ronnie before he won his first O and competed well up until 02, his pro career was longer and he won more shows, he also has more runner up spots at the O than Flex did and I don't hear many people saying kevin was great but he was just to lazy to maximize his body like they say about Flex.  Flex also depended too much on synthol towards the end of his career.  That's why I pic Kevin.

I agree with all this.

Kevin bouned back strong from adversity.

Flex never really did and never seemed to pull it together for the really big shows.

He peaks for every ironman under the sun but couldn't really do it for even a single Olympia... :-\
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 03, 2006, 05:43:41 PM
equal on size but what about everything else?

if there is one shot where ronnie is owing kevin, its that one!

give Ronnie credit where credit is due!

Seriously they are closely matched in that pose and Kevin has the better midsection , seriously.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: Hulkster on December 03, 2006, 05:50:01 PM
ND, they would be closely matched in that pose if you cut off both of their arms ::)
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: figgs on December 03, 2006, 06:15:09 PM
I really think Kevin is superior. He's a mass monster but has as much aesthetics as a mass monster can possibly have. He has a powerful, Herculean physique and perfect athletic genetics.

Flex was good but he was narrow and was as motivated as a lump of shit. He had a better stage presence but had nowhere near as much mass as Levrone. He had a great aesthetic, Apoleonic physique but was a pathetic man.

TWENTY FOUR INCH ARMS!!!!
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: Hulkster on December 03, 2006, 06:41:44 PM
LOL did kevin actually claim 24 inch arms?

Hell, Ronnie in 2003 at 287 pounds did not have arms that big onstage!
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: natural al on December 03, 2006, 07:23:22 PM
I agree with all this.

Kevin bouned back strong from adversity.

Flex never really did and never seemed to pull it together for the really big shows.

He peaks for every ironman under the sun but couldn't really do it for even a single Olympia... :-\

flex won the 95 ironman and the show before it, which I think was the south beach pro beating a vastly superior Aaron Baker who was still paying for his wBF strint...Aaron should have beat flex soundly in both of those shows and to put an out of shape and small flex over Labrada at his last show at the arnold was a trevesty, I do think Flex looked great at the 96 NOC but again he slipped come olympia time.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: Croatch on December 03, 2006, 08:17:36 PM
Their.  E before I.
This one is on me.  Next one I'm going to charge.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: pumpster on December 03, 2006, 08:37:33 PM
all you do in the truce thread is say everyone lacks credibility if thier opinion differs from yours, this thread is no different.  You're the most judgemental twit on this board, bar none.

as to why I would pick levrone:  First off, Levrone always brought it when it mattered, while his rookie year was not as impressive as Flex's it was still awsome.  3rd at the chicago show to Patel and Cotrel were the only blemishes.  He looked fantastic at the olympia at least as good as he was when he won the NOC.  Flex on the other hand slipped a little when it mattered and didn't show up at the O looking as good as he did in the spring shows.  Kevin came back from his pec tear and won the Arnold while Flex came back and from his auto accident and had-by his standards a terrible year finishing in the runner up spot at the arnold and then getting 8th at the 95 O.  kevin beat flex at the 96 Arnold by coming in totally huge and just out muscling him.  Kevin was the last guy to beat Ronnie before he won his first O and competed well up until 02, his pro career was longer and he won more shows, he also has more runner up spots at the O than Flex did and I don't hear many people saying kevin was great but he was just to lazy to maximize his body like they say about Flex.  Flex also depended too much on synthol towards the end of his career.  That's why I pic Kevin.

You've just proved that i was right about you; it took hitting a nerve about your vindictive, empty, no-nothing posts including something useless like defending Shadow, to finally motivate your ass to say something.

Stick to the subject. Don't spend so much time on me, your overt hatred makes you look like a friggin idiot. Your obsession on the comments of someone you don't even know looks pathetic dude. ;D
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: americanbulldog on December 03, 2006, 11:32:24 PM
Wheeler was the 2nd best BB of the last 2 decades, ahead of Haney & Yates. Going only on numbers of contests is fairly irrelevant.

Levrone great but more flawed. Couldn't match overall balance & aesthetics like this:

Better of the two for each person's career.  Levrone.  Best physique at one particular show.  Wheeler.  93 Arnold was SICK!
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: realkarateblackbelt on December 03, 2006, 11:36:51 PM
Wheeler looked better IMO.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2006, 12:29:10 AM
You've just proved that i was right about you; it took hitting a nerve about your vindictive, empty, no-nothing posts including something useless like defending Shadow, to finally motivate your ass to say something.

Stick to the subject. Don't spend so much time on me, your overt hatred makes you look like a friggin idiot. Your obsession on the comments of someone you don't even know looks pathetic dude. ;D

Again you're the pot calling the kettle black , you make wild claims of an absurd nature and when called on them you revert to name calling and posting the same pictures over and over . you have no content in any of your posts just empty filler you're deathly afraid of an honest debate because you can't stand toe-to-toe on an intellectual level

Whats ironic is you have the balls to say " Stick to the subject " and in your very first post you had to throw in the comment that Flex was better than Haney & Yates , which is exactly NOT sticking to the topic which was who was better at their prime Flex or Kevin , heed your own advice  ;)

You claim Kevin couldn't handle Flex's balance and aesthetics , let me clue you in on something Flex doesn't have great balance , although I agree at his best he would beat Kevin it wouldn't be on balance , and Kevin at his best had an aesthetic physique combined with a lot of size , you're afraid to elaborate on your opinion for a reason because you can't , because you have a limited ability of competitive bodybuilding comprehension

Whats funny is this applies in almost every topic you post on , you make a ridiculous claim and when pressed for an explanation of your opinion , you start name calling or claiming the other person has no credibility , this is a diversionary tactic on your part and then you're reduced to what you know best name calling , and everyone who has pressed you on your opinions all come to the same conclusion , you don't know anything.  ;)
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: MikeThaMachine on December 04, 2006, 04:01:53 AM
honestly why is it that anyone who sees things different from you have no credibility in your eyes?  You're credibility is in question because you're so close minded.

Yes he is such a dick when it comes to shit like that, if you don't see things from his point of view you are stupid and blind to the "truth". He loves to talk about everyone elses lack of credibility when he doesn't see eye to eye with them and uses double standards to the max, his debating skills also seem to blow massive amounts of cock for the same reason.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: MikeThaMachine on December 04, 2006, 04:15:06 AM
Flex was good but couldn't peak when it really mattered and eventually turned into a joke because of the synthol and ninjas. Kevin seemed to peak for just about every show he did but later in his career he like flex went downhill but not to quite the same extent. Comparing them both in their prime of the mid to late 90's I would say I prefer Kevin's overall look and presentation but it could go either way based mostly on personal opinion but like I said I think Kev had the more complete package which is the look I prefer.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: pumpster on December 04, 2006, 05:16:25 AM
Yes he is such a dick when it comes to shit like that, if you don't see things from his point of view you are stupid and blind to the "truth". He loves to talk about everyone elses lack of credibility when he doesn't see eye to eye with them and uses double standards to the max, his debating skills also seem to blow massive amounts of cock for the same reason.

The wisdom of 21-year old Mikethamachine, a true BB veteran.hahaahahahaahaha hahaahahahah
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: MikeThaMachine on December 04, 2006, 05:20:15 AM
The wisdom of 21-year old Mikethamachine, a true BB veteran.hahaahahahaahaha hahaahahahah

Just for the record I have never in my life worked out on a Bowflex, I hope that puts my BBing knowledge in perpesctive with your own.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: pumpster on December 04, 2006, 05:25:53 AM
Just for the record I have never in my life worked out on a Bowflex, I hope that puts my BBing knowledge in perpesctive with your own.

Just for the record you're a kid with minimal BB knowledge and even less ability to spell. I smell GED. hahahaahahah
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: natural al on December 04, 2006, 05:27:13 AM
Just for the record you're a kid with minimal BB knowledge and even less ability to spell. I smell GED. hahahaahahah

thanks for proving my point about you.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: MikeThaMachine on December 04, 2006, 05:28:12 AM
Just for the record you're a kid with minimal BB knowledge and even less ability to spell. I smell GED. hahahaahahah

Oh my god I misspelled a word, I must be a total fucking retard, I will never amount to anything now ::)
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: pumpster on December 04, 2006, 05:29:34 AM
Oh my god I misspelled a word, I must be a total fucking retard, I will never amount to anything now ::)

Try something new. STFU and discuss the thread; don't worry about me, kid. ;)
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: Bear on December 04, 2006, 05:36:16 AM
(http://www.ronniecoleman.net/comp9913.jpg)

Ronnie is winning here with superior detail and separation, with the added appearance of fullness, size and hardness.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=110282.0;attach=124168;image)

Not here though, when is this from? 2002? Ronnie is getting schooled.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: natural al on December 04, 2006, 05:47:57 AM
kEVIN is crushing Ronnie in that side chest pose...I still don't think Ronnie hits the majority of his madatories right and this is a good example of that.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: bigkubby on December 04, 2006, 07:30:32 AM
kevin packs more heat in the trunks lol thats what the judges stare at.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: carvedoutofwood on December 04, 2006, 07:42:18 AM
kEVIN is crushing Ronnie in that side chest pose...I still don't think Ronnie hits the majority of his madatories right and this is a good example of that.
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i think ronnies side shots are a weakness.. however from every other angle ronnie is incredible.... the problem with Levrone always was that he's NARROW... you cant chane that... cept from the side, from the side you can hide it... phil health is the same way... thast why flex houses levrone.... width... flex had it, levrone didnt
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: carvedoutofwood on December 04, 2006, 07:50:09 AM
Levrone.

Flex may have had a better structure (balance and proportions), but Kevin had the superior ability to gain muscle mass and he wasn't exactly a slouch as far as shape goes.  Some on here don't seem to give enough credit to muscle mass.  Kevin was far ahead of Flex in this manner.  He didn't need to juice as long and he would end up much bigger than Flex.  Flex on the other hand, had to resort to synthol and implants.  That should count for something when making this comparison - and not in a good way.

however the reality is that Flex never had implants and nobody cares "how long" of gearing up it takes for someone to get big... when u step onstage you are as you are... then there are mandatory poses... kevin wins the two side poses and loses everything else... especially from the back kevin couldnt compete with flex... so the only thing tha "Should count" is what someon looks like when they step onstage... Flex is exactly what this sport wasw built on...
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: pumpster on December 04, 2006, 07:53:38 AM

  Some on here don't seem to give enough credit to muscle mass.  Kevin was far ahead of Flex in this manner.  He didn't need to juice as long and he would end up much bigger than Flex. 
Relatively to structure, Wheeler was just as big, with less flaws and better structure. Levrone's narrowness is exactly why he looks like a million sometimes, which is misleading after seeing other poses. Wheeler's implants weren't a good idea but aside from that what he had already was great.


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i think ronnies side shots are a weakness..
Why? Haven't heard it from anyone else.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: Hulkster on December 04, 2006, 02:35:49 PM
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i think ronnies side shots are a weakness

I don't think so

(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999britishgrandprix/61.jpg)
look at the arms, the quads, the chest...although kevins might be better overall, ronnie's holds up well.

Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2006, 03:05:57 PM
I don't think so

(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999britishgrandprix/61.jpg)
look at the arms, the quads, the chest...although kevins might be better overall, ronnie's holds up well.



His side chest leaves a lot to be desired , the irony is he has a fabulous chest but you can't tell , his side chest pose as a whole leaves a lot to be desired , his front & side delts obscure the chest and make it appear small he doesn't pull his chest back , you can see his gut peeking out and his calves really , really disappear from the side and forget about the oversized quads making them look even smaller.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: pumpster on December 04, 2006, 03:40:07 PM
Coleman's got one of the very best all-time side shots in BB history, as evidenced by this mismatch. Yates looking no more than mediocre:
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: pumpster on December 04, 2006, 03:41:10 PM
Videos..

Levrone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjWfP5QyahI

Wheeler:
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2006, 03:45:56 PM
Coleman's got one of the very best all-time side shots in BB history, as evidenced by this mismatch. Yates looking no more than mediocre:

Another weak and tired comparison from pumpster thats Dorian 1997 NOT his best by any stretch you fear a great picture of Dorian for a reason  ;) and what happened to sticking to the topic ? heed your own advice sport.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: pumpster on December 04, 2006, 03:50:01 PM
ND HAS no choice but to go with B&W shots, because Yates' definition suffers in color. ;D

Here are some direct contest comparisons:


Same conclusion (Yates' arms looking small).. ;D
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2006, 03:51:28 PM
ND HAS no choice but to go with B&W shots, because Yates' definition suffers in color. ;D

Here are some direct contest comparisons, Coleman dominating once again:


Again stick to the topic slick , you want this comparison take it to the truce thread , stick to the topic.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: pumpster on December 04, 2006, 03:52:18 PM

Again stick to the topic slick , you want this comparison take it to the truce thread , stick to the topic.

U first kid.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2006, 03:59:07 PM
U first kid.

I was first and I said Flex and that was it , you added Yates & Haney into the equation and then have the balls to tell someone else to stick to the topic lol kid go away , either get in the game or sit on the sidelines.

Levrone was one of the few modern bodybuilder who could effectively pull off twisting 3/4 shots.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: realkarateblackbelt on December 04, 2006, 08:01:11 PM
Flex before the 1999 Mr Olympia and fuggin HUGE

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=110282.0;attach=124161;image)

Looks like Jay onstage  ;D
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: realkarateblackbelt on December 04, 2006, 08:08:24 PM
http://www.posedown.de/meisterschaften/2003/2003-11_dorian-yates-grand-prix/pics/bodybuilder_Jay-Cutler.jpg
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: realkarateblackbelt on December 04, 2006, 08:17:06 PM
Rhetorical.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: realkarateblackbelt on December 04, 2006, 08:19:25 PM
yawn.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: Eric2 on December 04, 2006, 09:26:05 PM
Levrone, he took 2nd in olympia his first try, no-one since Arnold did that.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 05, 2006, 02:07:53 PM
Levrone, he took 2nd in olympia his first try, no-one since Arnold did that.

Flex placed second in his first Mr Olympia in 1993 , Dorian Yates placed second in his first Mr Olympia 1991.
Title: Re: who was better in thier primes ?
Post by: Eric2 on December 05, 2006, 07:09:47 PM
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. oh yeah, oooooooooops.