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Mary Cheney and Partner Are About to Be Moms
By Amy Argetsinger and Roxanne Roberts
Mary Cheney, the vice president's openly gay daughter, is pregnant. She and her partner of 15 years, Heather Poe, are "ecstatic" about the baby, due in late spring, said a source close to the couple.
It's a baby boom for grandparents Dick and Lynne Cheney: Their older daughter, Elizabeth, went on leave as deputy assistant secretary of state before having her fifth child in July. "The vice president and Mrs. Cheney are looking forward with eager anticipation to the arrival of their sixth grandchild," spokesman Lea Anne McBride said last night.
Cheney, 37, was a key aide to her father during the 2004 reelection campaign and now is vice president for consumer advocacy at AOL. Poe, 45, a former park ranger, is renovating their Great Falls home.
News of the pregnancy will undoubtedly reignite the debate about gay marriage. During the campaign, Mary Cheney was criticized by gay activists for not being more publicly supportive of same-sex marriage. Her father said people "ought to be free to enter into any kind of relationship they want to" but deferred to the president's policy supporting a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriages. Cheney herself called the proposed amendment "a gross affront to gays and lesbians everywhere" in her book, "Now It's My Turn: A Daughter's Chronicle of Political Life," which was published in May.
Cheney has described her relationship with Poe -- whom she took to last year's White House dinner honoring Prince Charles and Camilla-- as a marriage. The two met in 1988 while playing ice hockey and began dating four years later. They moved from Colorado to Virginia a year ago to be closer to Cheney's family. In an interview with the Post six months ago, when asked if she and Poe wanted children, Cheney said that was a "conversation I think I should have with Heather first."
In November, Virginia voters passed a state constitutional amendment banning gay marriage and civil unions; state law is unclear on whether Poe could have full legal rights as a parent of Cheney's child. The circumstances of the pregnancy will remain private, said the source close to the couple. This is the first child for both.
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Most non-erotic thread about lesbians ever.
I could barely rub one out!
>:(
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I smell conservative hypocrisy approaching the level of Ted Haggard!
When is the last time you heard religious conservatives slam Mary Cheney for “choosing” to be a lesbian or slam the Vice President or his family for embracing their dyke daughter and her lover? Now the couple are about to be “moms” via methods that will not be disclosed. ::)
At least Alan Keyes and his wife are consistent in their conservative hatred: they kicked their lesbian daughter out of the house and stopped paying her tuition when she came out of the closet. How phucked up is that? Your “religion” tells you to hate your own child... and you buy it. :'(
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I smell conservative hypocrisy approaching the level of Ted Haggard!
When is the last time you heard religious conservatives slam Mary Cheney for “choosing” to be a lesbian or slam the Vice President or his family for embracing their dyke daughter and her lover? Now the couple are about to be “moms” via methods that will not be disclosed. ::)
At least Alan Keyes and his wife are consistent in their conservative hatred: they kicked their lesbian daughter out of the house and stopped paying her tuition when she came out of the closet. How phucked up is that? Your “religion” tells you to hate your own child... and you buy it. :'(
As you stated, Keyes walked the line. No double standards there.
Can't critisise him for being hypocrite, only for being wrong.
YIP
Zack
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Sorry but I draw the line at gay couples raising children.
BIG NO if you ask me. Look at them, perfect "couple"-o-parents ::)
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Sorry but I draw the line at gay couples raising children.
BIG NO if you ask me. Look at them, perfect "couple"-o-parents ::)
Would you rather be raised by Ted Haggard and his wife? ::)
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I think its cool to let these freaks adopt kids, but the mad scientist stuff has got to end.
I also think its cute Bay and co so desperately want the approval of the moral majority for their degeneracy ;D
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Is artificial insemination “mad science” when it is used by heterosexuals? I suppose you think blood transfusions are mad science too? Many conservatives attacked it as such when it was introduced.
I could care less about the approval of idiots. I just find conservative hypocrisy amusing. From Strom Thurmond to the Cheneys, to former KKK Senator George Allen, to Ted Haggard . . . the comedy never ends. ;D
Like George Bush claiming (during his debate with John Kerry) that he does not know any openly gay or lesbian people. Has he never met Mary Cheney?
The stem cell critics offer more of the same. The research with stem cells IS going to go forward and treatments will be derived from it. And when they become available hypocritical opponents of it will be the first in line to demand access to the treatments that they didn’t want to fund the research for.
ha ha ha ha <mocking laughter continues> . . .
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I could care less about the approval of idiots.
Bullshit, you wouldn't start these "woe is me and my queer club" threads every day if you were not desperate for validation :)
Using art insem on someone whose body has been fuct up for whatever reason is different than using it to make dykes a functioning couple, much like someone who is sick using steroids vs a professional athlete using them for an edge ;)
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BayGBM, do you think it's equally as normal for homos to have and raise kids as heteros doing so?
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Is there an experiment or report done that shows homosexual couples can safely raise kids without turning them into homos?
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Is there an experiment or report done that shows homosexual couples can safely raise kids without turning them into homos?
Is a child better off with homo parents or growing up in a foster home ?
This is why I say its good to let them adopt but why let them pass on their degenerate genese when we already have too many kids. If they want to go that route they should bite the bullet and be hetero.
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BayGBM, do you think it's equally as normal for homos to have and raise kids as heteros doing so?
Normal? Of course not. Gay and lesbian parents are neither normative nor common in our society. But saying it is not "normal" is not the same thing as saying it is wrong or worse. I do not think there is anything wrong with gay and lesbian parenting. In fact, I think the gay and lesbian community have developed some bad habits due to their exclusion from families and the opportunities and responsibilities of parenting. This is slowly starting to change . . .
As I’ve said many times before, diversity is written into the nature of biological systems, and homosexuality is part of the diversity of nature’s portfolio. The idea that people wake up one day and choose to be gay is rather silly when we consider that homosexuality is evident in every culture on earth from antiquity to the present. It has also been documented in dozens of species of animals. Nature has its own reason for producing a gay and lesbian population and no amount of homophobic rhetoric or anti-gay laws is going to stop nature’s course.
When one thinks about the number of orphaned and abandoned kids here and abroad who need homes and parents, the reason for this population of would be childless couples seems more and more obvious.
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Then there are the people who start off heterosexual, then become homosexual, then heterosexual again. Is that "nature" too?
And abnormal behavior in animals lends no credence whatsoever to the normalcy of that same behavior in humans. I don't see any logical comparison.
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Then there are the people who start off heterosexual, then become homosexual, then heterosexual again. Is that "nature" too?
And abnormal behavior in animals lends no credence whatsoever to the normalcy of that same behavior in humans. I don't see any logical comparison.
Sex pref is a matter of conditioning, nothing more nothing less. Der homos will try to sell you some bullshit about chemical imbalances, but they cant prove that those aren't the result of conditioning ;)
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Good for them. As long as they don't let gramps teach the kid to coordinate self attacks against the US, I'm sure the kid will grow up safe and well provided for.
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Hey if kids who otherwise would be aborted, or thrown into orphanages or foster homes, get the change to be raised by two loving, good parents, who happen to be of the same sex, I am all for that!
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As a straight uy, I submit I condition myself to like brunettes more than blondes, red heads, etc. I choose to have that preference and I could choose to like blondes by dating them more. I think gay men make a choice and then, like sandy said, condition themselves to like the cock and that is why some come back from the dick dark side....
You can speak for yourself, but I know that my passion for massive boobies is not the result of conditioning, it's been a part of me since before I hit puberty... So I don't see the problem with some gay dude liking the cock as much as I like the massive, natural jugggs!
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As a straight uy, I submit I condition myself to like brunettes more than blondes, red heads, etc. I choose to have that preference and I could choose to like blondes by dating them more. I think gay men make a choice and then, like sandy said, condition themselves to like the cock and that is why some come back from the dick dark side....
Alot of the time the choice is made for them, they were molested by a dood, they had no father figure, alot of dykes are rape victims, or (like Medford too) ugly for heterosexuality etc. There are correlations between all male environments and increased instnaces of homosexuality as well ;)
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Did your mom have big tits?
FUCKING CLASSIC ;D
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Did your mom have big tits?
Well, your mom did, and she is one sweet titfuck!! ;D
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Eh, they were average... Relax, this is getbig.. everyone tries to score cheap debating points, no offense intended :D
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My mom has big tits and I imagine that's why I like them.
Link?
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I am not sure if it is OK to post link to threads from the sex board in general topics, but check out my thread devoted to the gorgeous Bea Flora (chick in my avatar) on the sex board... you'll see what I like... she just makes me go all soft and say things liike mammaaaaa mammmaaa... ;D ;D ;D
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To a pick, no. Lol. I think young male children learn what they find attractive based on their mother, to an extent.
Definitely.
You can tell the members here who do not have good relationships with their mothers, because their view of women is warped.
Likewise, I've never met a stripper, escort, pornstar etc who had a healthy relationship with her father :)
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Definitely.
You can tell the members here who do not have good relationships with their mothers, because their view of women is warped.
Likewise, I've never met a stripper, escort, pornstar etc who had a healthy relationship with her father :)
I know a girl who's used to work as a porn actress. She and her dad gets along quite well, it seems.
She's currently studying to get her Masters degree, and while she may not be a genius, she's still well above average.
YIP
Zack
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I know a Chinese dude named Yao who is 7 feet tall...
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Link?
lol
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If he saw my mom now he would not want a pic...Love ya ma. ;D
I could masturbate to the home appliance section of a Sears catalogue if need be, make with teh titty pics!
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So was that like a no ?
;D
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Mixed reaction to Cheney's daughter's pregnancy
POSTED: 5:47 p.m. EST, December 6, 2006
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Conservative leaders voiced dismay Wednesday at news that Mary Cheney, the lesbian daughter of Dick Cheney, is pregnant, while a gay-rights group said the vice president faces "a lifetime of sleepless nights" for serving in an administration that has opposed recognition of same-sex couples.
Mary Cheney, 37, and her partner of 15 years, Heather Poe, 45, are expecting a baby in late spring, said Lea Anne McBride, a spokeswoman for the vice president.
"The vice president and Mrs. Cheney are looking forward with eager anticipation" to the arrival of their sixth grandchild, McBride said.
Mary Cheney was an aide to her father during the 2004 campaign, and now is vice president for consumer advocacy at AOL. She and Poe moved from Colorado to Virginia a year ago to be closer to the Cheney family.
Family Pride, which advocates on behalf of gay and lesbian families, noted that Virginia last month became one of 27 states with a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage.
"Unless they move to a handful of less restrictive states, Heather will never be able to have a legal relationship with her child," said Family Pride executive director Jennifer Chrisler.
The couple "will quickly face the reality that no matter how loved their child will be. ... he or she will never have the same protections that other children born to heterosexual couples enjoy," Chrisler said. "Grandfather Cheney will no doubt face a lifetime of sleepless nights as he reflects on the irreparable harm he and his administration have done to the millions of American gay and lesbian parents and their children."
For years, Mary Cheney's openness about her sexual orientation had posed a dilemma for conservative activists who admire Dick Cheney's stance on many issues but consider homosexuality a sin.
Janice Crouse of Concerned Women for America described the pregnancy as "unconscionable."
"It's very disappointing that a celebrity couple like this would deliberately bring into the world a child that will never have a father," said Crouse, a senior fellow at the group's think tank. "They are encouraging people who don't have the advantages they have."
Crouse said there was no doubt that the news would, in conservatives' eyes, be damaging to the Bush administration, which already has been chided by some leaders on the right for what they felt was halfhearted commitment to anti-abortion and anti-gay-rights causes in this year's general election.
Carrie Gordon Earll, a policy analyst for the conservative Christian ministry Focus on the Family, expressed empathy for the Cheney family but depicted the newly announced pregnancy as unwise.
"Just because you can conceive a child outside a one-woman, one-man marriage doesn't mean it's a good idea," said. "Love can't replace a mother and a father."
The vice president's office declined to elaborate on the circumstances of Mary Cheney's pregnancy.
The news was welcomed by the president of the largest national gay-rights group, Joe Solmonese of the Human Rights Campaign.
"Mary and Heather's decision to have a child is an example that families in America come in all different shapes and sizes," he said. "The bottom line is that a family is made up of love and commitment."
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/12/06/cheney.daughters.ap/index.html
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"Grandfather Cheney will no doubt face a lifetime of sleepless nights as he reflects on the irreparable harm he and his administration have done to the millions of American gay and lesbian parents and their children."
::)
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Silly.
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i dont know about you guys, but where i grew up if i had two moms. i would get a beatdown at school on a daily basis
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Bush glad for Cheney's daughter, but still leery of gay parenting
- James Gerstenzang, Los Angeles Times
Saturday, December 16, 2006
(12-16) 04:00 PST Washington -- Although he recently expressed confidence that Mary Cheney will make a loving parent, President Bush believes it is best that a child be raised by a man and woman married to each other, the president's spokesman said Friday.
The pregnancy of Vice President Dick Cheney's younger daughter, a lesbian, has reignited public discussion of gays and lesbians becoming parents. Some social conservatives, who strongly support Bush and the vice president on most issues, greeted the news of Mary Cheney's pregnancy with dismay, arguing that it undermined efforts to emphasize the primacy of the traditional family unit.
Commenting on the controversy, Bush last week told People magazine that Mary Cheney would be "a loving soul to her child. And I'm happy for her."
Pressed on whether his remark contradicted views he previously expressed that being raised by gays and lesbians falls short of an ideal situation for a child, he avoided a direct response.
"Mary Cheney is going to make a fine mom, and she's going to love this child a lot," he said.
In 2005, Bush said in an interview that he thought it best for children to be raised by married men and women. He does not favor marriage of same-sex couples.
"I believe children can receive love from gay couples, but the ideal is -- and studies have shown that the ideal is -- where a child is raised in a married family with a man and a woman," he told the New York Times.
On Friday, White House press secretary Tony Snow was asked whether the president stood by this belief. "Yes, he does," Snow replied.
"But he also believes that every human life is sacred and that every child who comes into this world deserves love," Snow said. "And he believes that Mary Cheney's child will in fact have loving parents."
Snow said Bush had not addressed whether he thought children raised by gays and lesbians were at a disadvantage.
In the People interview, Bush said that he found out about Cheney's pregnancy when the vice president "took me aside and gave me the good news."
Bush added that the vice president and his wife, Lynne, "are very happy for Mary."
The president did not mention Mary Cheney's partner of 15 years, Heather Poe.
Since the Bush administration took office in early 2001, Mary Cheney has played a low-key but growing role in its political operation. In 2004, she held a senior staff position in the Bush re-election campaign and regularly traveled with her father aboard Air Force Two.
She is due to give birth in the late spring. Neither the child's father nor how Cheney was impregnated has been publicly revealed.