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Title: Let's do some math
Post by: ManBearPig... on December 07, 2006, 06:17:18 PM
when i was a delusional tiny tit and wanted to play basketball as a kid, i read somewhere that 1 in 2000 high school basketball players make it to the NBA.  Somehow I thought I could beat those odds.

After getting cut at freshman tryouts.....

anyways....how many "amature" bodybuilders are there and how many pros are there?  how many new pro cards are given out every year in relation to how many are vying for that "coveted" card?
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: gordiano on December 07, 2006, 06:18:54 PM
"coveted"


HAHAHAHAHA!

About as coveted as getting cancer.........
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: MisterMagoo on December 07, 2006, 06:31:17 PM
if you really want to make it interesting, find out how many pros actually make a living from it. think about all of the guys that go pro and then disappear or never place high enough to win prize money.
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 07, 2006, 06:42:27 PM
when i was a delusional tiny tit and wanted to play basketball as a kid, i read somewhere that 1 in 2000 high school basketball players make it to the NBA.  Somehow I thought I could beat those odds.

After getting cut at freshman tryouts.....

anyways....how many "amature" bodybuilders are there and how many pros are there?  how many new pro cards are given out every year in relation to how many are vying for that "coveted" card?

Didn't Jordan get cut from his high school team? and the coach said he'd never make it?
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: theworm on December 07, 2006, 07:31:58 PM
when i was a delusional tiny tit and wanted to play basketball as a kid, i read somewhere that 1 in 2000 high school basketball players make it to the NBA.  Somehow I thought I could beat those odds.

After getting cut at freshman tryouts.....

anyways....how many "amature" bodybuilders are there and how many pros are there?  how many new pro cards are given out every year in relation to how many are vying for that "coveted" card?
yup, there are 17,000 public high schools in the US. If each one has a 12 member B-ball team, thats 204,000 players.  total NBA spots, around 300, leaving 0.1% chance of getting drafted.  I was good in HS, but I did not like them odds.  so i dorked it up, went to college, then became a MD, and I will be getting a NBA sallary for 20+ years with great job security.  all them fools I played with (who thought they were going pro) are now workin at burger king. 
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: Alex Velickovic on December 07, 2006, 07:34:21 PM
when i was a delusional tiny tit and wanted to play basketball as a kid, i read somewhere that 1 in 2000 high school basketball players make it to the NBA.  Somehow I thought I could beat those odds.

After getting cut at freshman tryouts.....

anyways....how many "amature" bodybuilders are there and how many pros are there?  how many new pro cards are given out every year in relation to how many are vying for that "coveted" card?

That's an interesting question.
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: 1991rs on December 07, 2006, 07:40:36 PM
McGwire didn't get on varsity until his senior year and didn't really play.

until he found a bottle of ??? in his locker
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: Jujoshu on December 07, 2006, 07:54:51 PM
Quote
i read somewhere that 1 in 2000 high school basketball players make it to the NBA.

The odds of a high school player making it to the NBA are more like 3 in 10,000 according to the NCAA.
The odds of making it as a pro bodybuilder might be comparable when you adjust for how many people participate in bodybuilding etc.

Btw, Mark McGwire hit 49 homeruns as a rookie even when he was skinny.
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: ManBearPig... on December 07, 2006, 09:01:34 PM
The odds of a high school player making it to the NBA are more like 3 in 10,000 according to the NCAA.
The odds of making it as a pro bodybuilder might be comparable when you adjust for how many people participate in bodybuilding etc.

Btw, Mark McGwire hit 49 homeruns as a rookie even when he was skinny.

well, i'm guessing there's much less than 10,000 bodybuilders trying to turn pro every year, and they give out more than 3 cards a year right?
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: Rich Gainihger on December 07, 2006, 09:03:59 PM
bodybuilding is a stepping stone into male prostitution, that's why i'm such a big fan.
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: Adam Empire on December 07, 2006, 10:13:56 PM
bodybuilding is a stepping stone into male prostitution, that's why i'm such a big fan.

Who is this Galager?
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: gordiano on December 07, 2006, 10:37:11 PM
bodybuilding is a stepping stone into male prostitution, that's why i'm such a big fan.

That's one way to look at it......... :-\
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: Alex23 on December 07, 2006, 10:48:01 PM
Roughly 20 NPC shows NQ yearly, 4 classes, and average of 8 guys per classes, 4 pro card shows, 2 allocated if you win your class.

so for a heavyweight that faces 8 other guys local, times 30 other guys at the national in his class, times all the other 5 classes:

8x30x5 = 1200 ->  1 out of 1200... not too bad.

This is without the dellusion factor of course
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: Alex23 on December 07, 2006, 10:49:06 PM
bodybuilding is a stepping stone into male prostitution, that's why i'm such a big fan.

So Jimmy, you're saying that your main interest for posting on a bb board is to interact and/or get into the male prostitution world?
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: Dorian01 on December 07, 2006, 10:49:49 PM
There are some people turning IFBB pro in Europe and other parts of the world too, right?
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: Alex23 on December 07, 2006, 10:53:35 PM
There are some people turning IFBB pro in Europe and other parts of the world too, right?

True Dorian01. BB being an international sport, it's a case by case probability.... It's much easier to get your pro card in canada or australia.. doesn't make you a better pro thought :)
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: Figo on December 08, 2006, 12:26:20 AM
True Dorian01. BB being an international sport, it's a case by case probability.... It's much easier to get your pro card in canada or australia.. doesn't make you a better pro thought :)

It is?
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: Alex23 on December 08, 2006, 12:47:29 AM
It is?

Check the JD Roy thread... shouldn't be a problem for him Figo 8)
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: Figo on December 08, 2006, 02:13:42 AM
Check the JD Roy thread... shouldn't be a problem for him Figo 8)

You're referring to higher level of competition(more good competitors), which I understand, but countries like Australia, South Africa(thewhole of Africa), a lot of European countries(not sure about England), winning your national champs doesnt get you a pro card, you "merely" get a chance to represent your nation at the World Champs where you can earn your pro card via winning your division I dont think the European Champs earns a pro card neither...?

Priest won mr Australia several times(overall)before his federation applied for pro status to the IFBB, which they approved.
Theres guys that have won the Mr South Africa several times, and they're always gonna be amateurs, because they stand a snowball's-chances-on-the-back-of-a-pig-flying-through-hell to win the World Champs.

In the States, you can do it via winning your div in Nats, overall at USA's, North Americans, getting selected for the World Champs team(cant remb what its called), or you could pull a Vic Richards, check out your ancestry,  go back to your "homeland" Nigeria, easily beat everyone in the national show, which you outweigh by at least 100lbs, and apply for a pro card, which was ready and signed, approved, stamped....
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: RJB on December 08, 2006, 08:14:06 AM
Didn't Jordan get cut from his high school team? and the coach said he'd never make it?

Do your homework. People say that all the time and it's BS. He played JV as a freshman instead of being able to play varsity - he was hardly cut.
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: Monster_Everything on December 08, 2006, 08:17:35 AM
Try being a good soccer player in America with hopes of going pro....


#1 everyone in the world plays soccer
#2 the domestic competetion is never as deep as it could be because of a lack of interest/conflict with other 'american' sports.

growing up i did actually play against a future Pro Soccer player ala the goalie for Man U (last name Howard) from NJ.
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: Jujoshu on December 08, 2006, 08:34:26 AM
well, i'm guessing there's much less than 10,000 bodybuilders trying to turn pro every year, and they give out more than 3 cards a year right?

Yes, but if we are talking about the chances of turning pro I still believe the percentage to be comparable. I think Dorian Yates said maybe 1 out of every 10,000 people have the genetics to turn pro and maybe 1 out of every 100,000 have the genetics and work ethic. Just his opinion of course. You have to look at a sampling of the whole amateur bodybuilding population-not just the ones competing for pro cards at any given time. What are the chances of any one of them being able to turn pro? Not good.
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: Figo on December 08, 2006, 09:52:20 AM
Try being a good soccer player in America with hopes of going pro....


#1 everyone in the world plays soccer
#2 the domestic competetion is never as deep as it could be because of a lack of interest/conflict with other 'american' sports.

growing up i did actually play against a future Pro Soccer player ala the goalie for Man U (last name Howard) from NJ.

Did you nutmeg him?
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: doison on December 08, 2006, 09:54:49 AM
I think the NPC claims that 20,000 people compete in the NPC each year.  Now, how many of them are figure depends....but, there are many guys out there wasting their time. 
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: lilwoday09smb on December 08, 2006, 10:06:07 AM
the new trend is everyone wants to be an ultimate fighter. its amazing how many people joined my and other gyms in the past 2 years. these guys much older than me quit there jobs and ried to fight well. all of the ones i know personally have failed terrible. they train for 6 months get in the ring and get destroyed. not to mention unless ur a top ranked fighter its a dumb carrer path. i train for fun and to stay in shape. ill fight eventually but not planning on making it my carrer just want to get into the ring a few times
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: Lundgren on December 08, 2006, 10:43:53 AM
only one in a thousand are willing  to make the sacrifice of the high level of drugs combined with years of training and use. not to mention the genetics
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: lilwoday09smb on December 08, 2006, 10:51:55 AM
o yes, latly ive just been training with a college wrestling team and a boxing gym, instead of an all around mma gym.
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: Jujoshu on December 08, 2006, 11:31:04 AM
The infatuation with being an ultimate fighter is bizarre to me. I suppose it's another way men are attempting to express masculinity. I'll get in the ring and show everyone I'm tough. Unfortunately, many don't realize it takes a lot more than 6 months of training to be a real fighter.
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: Jujoshu on December 08, 2006, 11:41:47 AM
It's great to know how to defend yourself but it's an insult to real fighters when these bodybuilding crossover wannabes go into "ultimate fighting". If I couldn't hack it singing I wouldn't suddenly convert to acting and after 6 months claim I was an actor...at least not in the same sense as a Jack Nicholson or Denzel Washington. Besides, like Bruce Lee said...it doesn't matter how great of a fighter you are when someone pulls out a gun.
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: Jujoshu on December 08, 2006, 11:54:57 AM
If some of these newly converted fighters fought some real fighters..I'd hate to see the
outcome. Can you imagine someone like Chris Cook fighting Chuck Liddell? Ouch.
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: disco_stu on December 08, 2006, 12:46:30 PM
How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

easy..

how much wood could a woodchuck chuck? he'd chuck much wood that woodchuck would if a woodchuck could chuck wood
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: lilwoday09smb on December 08, 2006, 12:56:12 PM
wow u must go to my gym. and ya bjj is good to know if ur gonna be in a bjj tourney or possibly mma but its hard to choke some one or throw in an arm bar when you getting punched, im starting to really like the serious boxing instead of the mma boxing my skills have gotten much better and as a wrestler for almost 10 years it was hard to get into
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: lilwoday09smb on December 08, 2006, 01:08:39 PM
what exactly is that im unfamiliar
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: lilwoday09smb on December 08, 2006, 01:11:21 PM
thanxs ill check that out
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: buffbodz on December 08, 2006, 01:21:46 PM
wow u must go to my gym. and ya bjj is good to know if ur gonna be in a bjj tourney or possibly mma but its hard to choke some one or throw in an arm bar when you getting punched, im starting to really like the serious boxing instead of the mma boxing my skills have gotten much better and as a wrestler for almost 10 years it was hard to get into

Boxing is the sweet science.  Best way to train, even if you never get in a fight.  I would dare anyone who thinks their in shape to spar, just light sparing, with an experienced boxer.  I gave it my best shot, no pun intended, but my coach told my after 27 armature fights that training with the club was OK, but to go any further I would risk getting badly hurt.  It relay takes a special talent to box.  MMA is a joke to a real Boxer.  Just watch a top boxer go through the motions.  It's a whole different animal.  The grace, fluidity,skill and power are surpassed by no one.  Give it your best and good luck, but just to be in "boxing condition" is half the battle.
Title: Re: Let's do some math
Post by: lilwoday09smb on December 08, 2006, 01:25:41 PM
couldnt have said it better, wrestling has helped me stay in pretty good shape. i wrestle with a div 1 team but keeping y hands up for 15 minutes with the glove son kills my shoulders. i love hitting the bag and im only sparring 1 time a week right now