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what do YOU think happened on 9/11? We all get you don't buy the official story, but if you had to make an educated guess with what you have seen or read so far what do you think happened?
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someone please move this thread to politics board, please
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I don't know what happened. Honestly, I don't think any 911 Skeptics do.
I am very sure that things didn't happen as the 911 Commission tells us.
A few thoughts:
---They changed the WTC1 and WTC2 collapse reason THREE times so far - each time after independent scientists absolutely disproved the official story
---They said they had no Pentagon film, then discovered 5 frames, three days before 'The Big Lie', an expose on the Inside Job, came out.
---WTC7's collapse is completely inexplainable. Even the biggest supporter will say "we're not sure".
--- The complete gagging of many people and evidence, coupled with their unwillingness to investigate or punish anyone for at the very least, incompetence.
---The slipups (rummy talking about the missile hitting the pentagon or the 'plane we shot down in penn'.) Or Bush talking about how terrorists placed explosives in the building in a way to trap people.
What I think doesn't matter. What anyone thinks doesn't matter. What the second 911 commission proves is all that matters.
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I don't know what happened. Honestly, I don't think any 911 Skeptics do.
I am very sure that things didn't happen as the 911 Commission tells us.
A few thoughts:
---They changed the WTC1 and WTC2 collapse reason THREE times so far - each time after independent scientists absolutely disproved the official story
---They said they had no Pentagon film, then discovered 5 frames, three days before 'The Big Lie', an expose on the Inside Job, came out.
---WTC7's collapse is completely inexplainable. Even the biggest supporter will say "we're not sure".
--- The complete gagging of many people and evidence, coupled with their unwillingness to investigate or punish anyone for at the very least, incompetence.
---The slipups (rummy talking about the missile hitting the pentagon or the 'plane we shot down in penn'.) Or Bush talking about how terrorists placed explosives in the building in a way to trap people.
What I think doesn't matter. What anyone thinks doesn't matter. What the second 911 commission proves is all that matters.
In anything as complex as the events of 9/11 there are bound to be many inconsistencies and cover ups. There will be comments taken out of context, comments made on incomplete information or presumptuous early conclusions. Look at the evidence with the Holocaust....Iran has enough ammo to cast doubt with some people on something as true as that.
Pointing out holes in the "official" story in this case is too easy but doesn't prove anything concrete unless you can come up with a provable version of what you think happened.
I'd be willing to bet that what ever you come up with in the realm of a "inside" job can be shot full of holes 10 times more than you can with the official story.
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I'm not trying to win any awards for punching holes in official story.
I want to know if NORAD guys intentionally helped terrorists by not doing their jobs so we couldn't shoot down the planes. If so, they are traitors and need to be put on trial. Agreed?
I want to know why Guiliani had the crime scene removed despite federal law regarding plane crashes.
I want to know why nobody tested the metal.
I want to know who in Paki ISI paid Atta his $100k right before 9/11, and why he was so cuddly with CIA guys that morning.
I want to know why Bush wrote an exec order in which he ORDERED FBI agents to halt all investigations into Atta, right before 9/11.
I want to know why Bush was given detailed info about upcoming attacks and did nothing. That is a serious fucking crime if ANY AMERICAN knew men were about to attack and did nothing. Was our ally the German ambassador LYING when he said he warned Bush? Was Putin and other world leaders also lying when they said the same thing?
I want to know why the physical evidence at the Pentagon doesn't support a plane crash, and why all videotaped proof has been hidden?
I want to live in a safe america. If it was negligence, incompetence, or crime - I don't want those same fucks that let planes fly 90 minutes without intercept on 9/11, still in the exact same jobs they had then.
DO YOU?
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Ozmo, things happened on 9/11 which were logistically IMPOSSIBLE for those 19 men with knives.
WTC7 fell. They didn't do that.
NORAD didn't scramble planes from Andrews AFB, 12 miles from the pentagon. Atta and his friends didn't prevent that. Someone else did.
explosions in the basements of the buildings - Atta didn't do that.
I could go on, but you get the idea. Those 19 terrorists had assistance that day - it is the ONLY explanation for procedure not being followed. I mean, people at FAA *DESTROYED ALL THEIR RECORDINGS BEFORE THE FBI ARRIVED*. Whether it's a coverup of involvement or incompetence, the men who did that still have their jobs today.
And as we all know, terrorism could happen again. Do you still want those same cnuts at the defense if it does?
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Well, if this wasn't and inside job, Bush & Company still used it all the same which is the bigest part of the crime in my book... Indited on letting 9/11 happen... maybe not... Indited on his actions after the fact, hell ya.
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Well, if this wasn't and inside job, Bush & Company still used it all the same which is the bigest part of the crime in my book... Indited on letting 9/11 happen... maybe not... Indited on his actions after the fact, hell ya.
It would be conspiracy to commit murder, if any American knew about the attacks beforehand and just didn't say anything.
For someone in his position - trusted and paid to use intel to protect us - to let it happen would be a horrible, horrible thing.
Several of our allies have said they told Bush. So either they are all lying, or bush is lying. Period.
He ordered a great deal of the evidence sealed until Jan 9, 2009, right as he leaves office. I guess we might find out a bit more then.
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Ozmo, things happened on 9/11 which were logistically IMPOSSIBLE for those 19 men with knives.
WTC7 fell. They didn't do that.
NORAD didn't scramble planes from Andrews AFB, 12 miles from the pentagon. Atta and his friends didn't prevent that. Someone else did.
explosions in the basements of the buildings - Atta didn't do that.
I could go on, but you get the idea. Those 19 terrorists had assistance that day - it is the ONLY explanation for procedure not being followed. I mean, people at FAA *DESTROYED ALL THEIR RECORDINGS BEFORE THE FBI ARRIVED*. Whether it's a coverup of involvement or incompetence, the men who did that still have their jobs today.
And as we all know, terrorism could happen again. Do you still want those same cnuts at the defense if it does?
Again, what is your theory? Other then pointing holes based on incomplete information and lack of knowledge and experteese in the many fields invovled?
See you don't get it 240..... your CT is fueled by 9/11 CT websites and CT books. You have an opportunity to do "real" research and you refuse to do it citing things like you don't have time. (facts are you do)
If you are serious about finding out the whole truth start with your research in these areas from sources not associated with 9/11 CT'ers and or websites:
- NORAD/Air force/FAA air defense protocol
- The entire 9/11 report
- The entire NIST report
If you won't even do these things maybe you are not really SERIOUS about finding out the truth. And everything you say is pretty much the same BULL SHIT you accuse the otherside of being
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I'm not trying to win any awards for punching holes in official story.
I want to know if NORAD guys intentionally helped terrorists by not doing their jobs so we couldn't shoot down the planes. If so, they are traitors and need to be put on trial. Agreed?
I want to know why Guiliani had the crime scene removed despite federal law regarding plane crashes.
I want to know why nobody tested the metal.
I want to know who in Paki ISI paid Atta his $100k right before 9/11, and why he was so cuddly with CIA guys that morning.
I want to know why Bush wrote an exec order in which he ORDERED FBI agents to halt all investigations into Atta, right before 9/11.
I want to know why Bush was given detailed info about upcoming attacks and did nothing. That is a serious fucking crime if ANY AMERICAN knew men were about to attack and did nothing. Was our ally the German ambassador LYING when he said he warned Bush? Was Putin and other world leaders also lying when they said the same thing?
I want to know why the physical evidence at the Pentagon doesn't support a plane crash, and why all videotaped proof has been hidden?
I want to live in a safe america. If it was negligence, incompetence, or crime - I don't want those same fucks that let planes fly 90 minutes without intercept on 9/11, still in the exact same jobs they had then.
DO YOU?
The thing in bold is probably the only thing close to the truth.
Otherwise all you have is arguementative statements based on not so credible sources and a total lack of knowledge in these fields.
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And then to add to all the BS....... you take every opportunity you can to spew your 9/11 CT propaganda by hijacking threads but won't do true research... you're worse than Bush. ;)
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My own theory is that the $2.3 Trillion which was announced missing from the Pentagon was used to fund a small group of people in key roles here, along with a larger team of overseas contractors, to conduct a psyops operation on the American people.
You asked about official sources-
I KNOW that NORAD intercepted every plane which went off course or didn't answer, in the year before 9/11, one hundred times. All in under 22 mintues, the average being 15 minutes. That is their protocol. Why they didn't do it on 911? You ask them.
I know that the 911 commission answered exactly 1% of the questions given to them by the 911 widows.
I know the 911 commission was populated with people who were oil associates of bush 1.
I know the White House falsified the EPA report to meet their agenda (EPA whistleblowers verified it), so I don't put much stock in the NIST report the white house approved and launched.
I don't have to convince anyone. There are a great deal of people in govt, military, and science who know it was an inside job. An investigation will come in 2009.
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And then to add to all the BS....... you take every opportunity you can to spew your 9/11 CT propaganda by hijacking threads but won't do true research... you're worse than Bush. ;)
are you shitting me? I have posted all sorts of detailed info about the melting points of steel and the impossiblity of the molten pools under wtc1,2,7. I have posted detailed graphics I made which show the pentagon penetration, 6 entry and exit holes. I have posted numerous timeline conflicts with the official story. I have posted the 29 foreign intel warnings Bush ignored.
I am tired of typing the same shit, and having the same people say "you don't give us any facts".
The truth is, Bush & Co keep changing the story. They hid all the videos. They knew and didn't act. They have gagged thousands of people. They confiscated all videos. And this attack benefitted them more than anyone in the world - they got a blank check to invade the middle east and cut civil rights here.
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The thing in bold is probably the only thing close to the truth.
Otherwise all you have is arguementative statements based on not so credible sources and a total lack of knowledge in these fields.
"I want to know why Bush wrote an exec order in which he ORDERED FBI agents to halt all investigations into Atta, right before 9/11."
If I produce evidence of this, what would you say?
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I KNOW that NORAD intercepted every plane which went off course or didn't answer, in the year before 9/11, one hundred times. All in under 22 mintues, the average being 15 minutes. That is their protocol. Why they didn't do it on 911? You ask them.
This is something you gleemed from your 9/11 CT websites. You have not researched the defense posture of the USA on 9/11 and the protocol of how they deal with threats and where they were expecting threats to come from.
My own theory is that the $2.3 Trillion which was announced missing from the Pentagon was used to fund a small group of people in key roles here, along with a larger team of overseas contractors, to conduct a psyops operation on the American people.
This means laot of people made some serious money and even a 2nd rate P.I. could trace it or show some of these people who are now EXTREMELY wealthy..... funny how nothing has come from that.
I know the White House falsified the EPA report to meet their agenda (EPA whistleblowers verified it), so I don't put much stock in the NIST report the white house approved and launched.
EPA blows it whistles more than a $10 whore blows for crack. Means little.
I know that the 911 commission answered exactly 1% of the questions given to them by the 911 widows.
I know the 911 commission was populated with people who were oil associates of bush 1.
Have you analyzed every question? Have you determined how many questioins just couldn't be answered based on incomplete information?......................
Again BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT DOING COMPLETE RESEARCH (instead getting all your info and arguments from 9/11 CT site) I ALREADY KNOW YOU HAVEN'T
I don't have to convince anyone. There are a great deal of people in govt, military, and science who know it was an inside job. An investigation will come in 2009.
The passion and frequency of your posts lead me to believe otherwise.
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are you shitting me? I have posted all sorts of detailed info about the melting points of steel and the impossiblity of the molten pools under wtc1,2,7. I have posted detailed graphics I made which show the pentagon penetration, 6 entry and exit holes. I have posted numerous timeline conflicts with the official story. I have posted the 29 foreign intel warnings Bush ignored.
I am tired of typing the same shit, and having the same people say "you don't give us any facts".
The truth is, Bush & Co keep changing the story. They hid all the videos. They knew and didn't act. They have gagged thousands of people. They confiscated all videos. And this attack benefitted them more than anyone in the world - they got a blank check to invade the middle east and cut civil rights here.
Yes, you have posted all sorts of detailed info you got from 9/11 CT sites and the only person with any engineering back ground or access to an expert on this forum disagrees with you.
It's your facts and their credibility that are in question combined with your incomplete unbias research of other sources
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explosions in the basements of the buildings - Atta didn't do that.
I've heard a ton of people talk about these bombs in the basement, but I haven't seen a seismic chart that shows bombs going off. I would like to see some hard evidence.
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EPA blows it whistles more than a $10 whore blows for crack. Means little.
I don't understand what you mean. EPA scientists risked their careers by coming forward and saying the White House had changed their report in order to reopen wall street. They had research showing people would be a great risk for longterm health problems. They also said professional clearning was the only way to prevent asbestosis and other lung ailments.
It was in their report. But when the report came out, their names were still signed to it, only now it said it was perfectly safe to return to work, and that only soap and water was all that was needed.
They freaked, as lives were at stake. They published their actual report, and the White house had egg on its face. With the NIST report, no lives were at immediate risk, so whistleblower motivation was much lower.
Oz, for you to say "EPA blows it whistles more than a $10 whore blows for crack. Means little.". I don't understand that.
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I've heard a ton of people talk about these bombs in the basement, but I haven't seen a seismic chart that shows bombs going off. I would like to see some hard evidence.
Original seismic and Commission times
AA Flight 11
2001 LDEO 8:46:26 Original seismic
2004 Commission 8:46:40 (14 seconds difference)
UA Flight 175
2001 LDEO 9:02:54 Original seismic
2004 Commission 9:03:11 (17 seconds difference)
Witnesses also reported bomb blasts in basement. And, pictures from tv show huge 400-feet plumes of smoke from the basement.
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SEISMIC DATA AND TIMES
LDEO Published Findings 2001
Link: http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/LCSN/Eq/20010911_wtc.html
LDEO confirmed its data as accurate:
Link: http://www.mgs.md.gov/esic/publications/download/911pentagon.pdf
9/11 COMMISSION DATA AND TIMES
Commission Timeline Link: http://www.gpoaccess.gov/911/index.html
These are the sources. All govt agencies. They're all on nuclear time. They had the best intel, imagery, and measurement data on earth. And their findings match exactly the witness statements - that monster blasts happened in basement BEFORE the planes hit.
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Seriously if you were paying attention. I dont know how many times I see these guys having to repeat things that have been discussed 10 times over. Asv far as having a political agenda, if you were paying attention you would know 240 has repeated the fact that he voted for bush and was a devoted republican um like two hundred and foty times. Come on people get up to speed so they can get on to newer and better things. 240 and B, grreat job of being patient no way I could do it.
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I really try not to start threads about this stuff. It's my belief we need a second investigation, and I really hate to be preachy like I used to be.
I voted for Bush twice and still vote repub on everything except nat'l level, where it's a candidate by candidate choice. i'd vote for a mccain, but not a condi.
when people call me a liberal, it's so weird. I carry a permitted pistol, have voted repub in every election of my life since 18, am a strong proponent for justice, and demand the best from my nation. Liberals hate guns, don't vote, don't want criminals prosecuted, and could give a shit about their nation at times, as they'd rather pardon criminals or smoke pot.
It BAFFLES me why staunch republicans wouldn't DEMAND a complete investigation of 9/11. If there is a chance that a rogue FAA supervisor or NORAD operator assisted the 19 arabs by sabotaging the interceptor fighters, these men should be IN PRISON.
REAL republicans would agree, and would want an investigation to find just who fucked up, covered up, or committed treason. They certainly wouldn't condone a half assed investigation like we had (by the 911 commish's own account).
These aren't REAL republicans we have here. They are coward sheep neoconservatives who care more about power and oil than they do about truth, justice, and the American way. They are the fucking traitors.
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i can go along with you on that stuff 240. i think its fine if you want a second investigation. youll get the same answers you got in the first but whatever.
what i and many other people dont like is when you come up with those ludicrous stories about what you think happend. this is why nobody takes conspiracy theorists seriously and why they will never get a second investigation. a million things happend on 911. a few of them arnt totally understood. but that gives nobody the right to make up stories and put blame on people that dont deserve it. you are innocent until proven guilty. until you find proof of guilt you are not entitled to prosecute.
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I'm not making up the stuff about FAA superviser destroying recordings - that was admitted on the stand.
And I didn't point out my thoughts until asked repeatedly. You'll see I said "It doesn't matter what I thinkn - let's see what the evidence says".
I don't want to convict anyone. I want a trained prosecutor to ask the FAA and NORAD employees why they broke protocol, and under whose order. That's how it works. Either they broke the law, their oath, and randomly all chose to break this rule for no reason, or, more likely, they were given that order. Let's find out by who and move up the chain.
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My own theory is that the $2.3 Trillion which was announced missing from the Pentagon was used to fund a small group of people in key roles here, along with a larger team of overseas contractors, to conduct a psyops operation on the American people.
I don't have to convince anyone. There are a great deal of people in govt, military, and science who know it was an inside job. An investigation will come in 2009.
HAHAHAHAAAHHAHAHHAHAH... . These two are great ....HAAHAHH hAHAHAH hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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keep laughing. you're the dumbass dodging bullets for Bush's lies. you're gonna be one pissed off man when you come home, start learning, and come to the realization you're a pawn.
until then, believe whatever it takes to stay alive. The beliefs you hold are shared by only a very small % of Americans at this time. It shrinks every day as more people discover the real reasons we're at war. Do what you do, and I appreciate your service. But you're being pawned, dude.
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I'm not making up the stuff about FAA superviser destroying recordings - that was admitted on the stand.
And I didn't point out my thoughts until asked repeatedly. You'll see I said "It doesn't matter what I thinkn - let's see what the evidence says".
I don't want to convict anyone. I want a trained prosecutor to ask the FAA and NORAD employees why they broke protocol, and under whose order. That's how it works. Either they broke the law, their oath, and randomly all chose to break this rule for no reason, or, more likely, they were given that order. Let's find out by who and move up the chain.
That's great and all but when you can actually dig up hard evidence more substantial than "bomb blasts witnessed in the basement" and questionable seismic data, and get this info from CNN, FNC, A major newspaper (and not a completely leftist paper like NY Times), a major study compiled, as opposed to Infowars or other CT sites.
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keep laughing. you're the dumbass dodging bullets for Bush's lies. you're gonna be one pissed off man when you come home, start learning, and come to the realization you're a pawn.
I didn't dodge anything. I just refuse to accept garbage and speculation as facts.
until then, believe whatever it takes to stay alive. The beliefs you hold are shared by only a very small % of Americans at this time. It shrinks every day as more people discover the real reasons we're at war. Do what you do, and I appreciate your service. But you're being pawned, dude.
Actually, despite what most people think of Bush, a very LARGE percentage of Americans believe the official story of 911 (a majority, in fact). IOW, you're the one spouting crazy talk. Congratulations.
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why is the seismic data questionable?
It was recorded on nuclear time using very good seismic equipment which measured the impact to a hundredth of a second. The plane impacts were witnessed by the world and there can be zero dispute on what time the planes hit (you have everything from the FDR boxes to every camera in the world focused upon it).
There were massive blasts below ground some 14-17 seconds before each building was hit. Call it what you want. it's in the 911 COmmission's own report. And they "didn't have the resources to figure out just why the blasts were recorded early".
Also, you should know from military training that a plane hitting a building shouldn't measure a 2.4 magnitude earthquake on the richter scale. The WTC 1993 bomb blast was on ground level, a huge bomb, and it didn't even register. This was a subterrainin blast, it occurred before the planes hit, and it was reinforced by witness statements.
You don't have to believe it. I know it would make for a shitty day of dodging IEDs and bullets to think all day about just who had the capability to not only set off bombs in the basement, but also convince the 911 commission to avoid that topic. I think you know, homie ;) But you keep on waiting for CNN to tell you what to believe.
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Actually, despite what most people think of Bush, a very LARGE percentage of Americans believe the official story of 911 (a majority, in fact). IOW, you're the one spouting crazy talk. Congratulations.
Well, CNN's Oct 8 poll shows that 84% of Americans now believe the White House is lying about 9/11, whether it be what they knew, involvement, or a cover-up.
Congrats. You're part of the 16% of Americans who believe everything Bush says about 9/11.
(wait, you said you'll believe the seismic data when cnn tells you... but you're gonna ignore this poll, huh? sucks to be you, homie.)
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why is the seismic data questionable?
Because all of this BS came from the same place that says we never landed on the moon. Not to mention that everything you say below hasn't been taken seriously by anyone other than people like you (loonys). In addition to that, with everything I've seen regarding 911 from all the different sources it looks to me more like what happens everytime something bad occurs. There's always gonna be some people whi dig up unexplainable evidence and attach whatever explaination they want to support thier agenda. This is no exception. This happens everytime there is a signifigant history making event.
It was recorded on nuclear time using very good seismic equipment which measured the impact to a hundredth of a second. The plane impacts were witnessed by the world and there can be zero dispute on what time the planes hit (you have everything from the FDR boxes to every camera in the world focused upon it).
There were massive blasts below ground some 14-17 seconds before each building was hit. Call it what you want. it's in the 911 COmmission's own report. And they "didn't have the resources to figure out just why the blasts were recorded early".
Also, you should know from military training that a plane hitting a building shouldn't measure a 2.4 magnitude earthquake on the richter scale. The WTC 1993 bomb blast was on ground level, a huge bomb, and it didn't even register. This was a subterrainin blast, it occurred before the planes hit, and it was reinforced by witness statements.
You don't have to believe it. I know it would make for a shitty day of dodging IEDs and bullets to think all day about just who had the capability to not only set off bombs in the basement, but also convince the 911 commission to avoid that topic. I think you know, homie ;) But you keep on waiting for CNN to tell you what to believe.
Sounds good sooooo... I'll go ahead watch reputable news sources and you can get your info from "other" places.
Awesome... homie.
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Well, CNN's Oct 8 poll shows that 84% of Americans now believe the White House is lying about 9/11, whether it be what they knew, involvement, or a cover-up.
There might be very large security concerns for releasing some facts about 911. That doesn't mean, in a million years, that the white house was behind it, had anything to do with it, or was in any way responsibel for letting it happen.
Congrats. You're part of the 16% of Americans who believe everything Bush says about 9/11.
I don't but that doesn't mean he fucking DID IT.
(wait, you said you'll believe the seismic data when cnn tells you... but you're gonna ignore this poll, huh? sucks to be you, homie.)
Actually it sucks to routinely say rediculus shit. This means you.
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Because all of this BS came from the same place that says we never landed on the moon. Not to mention that everything you say below hasn't been taken seriously by anyone other than people like you (loonys). In addition to that, with everything I've seen regarding 911 from all the different sources it looks to me more like what happens everytime something bad occurs. There's always gonna be some people whi dig up unexplainable evidence and attach whatever explaination they want to support thier agenda. This is no exception. This happens everytime there is a signifigant history making event.
Dude, you were just presented with irrefutable information - from the 911 commission itself - that giant blasts occurred 14 and 17 seconds BEFORE the planes hit.
I can pull up some videotaped witness statements from that day if you want, also.
So in response to the fact that you are seeing - for the first time - clear, scientific evidence that someone other than the 19 arabs had to have been involved - you want to call me a "loony"?
Shouldn't you be thinking "What the hell blew up in the basement, who put it there, and why didn't the 911 Commission address this?"
But that would be loony ;)
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Actually it sucks to routinely say rediculus shit. This means you.
You have a high IQ. You're a smart guy. I know that seismic data is in your head. IMO, the 'ridiculous shit' would be ignoring something as huge as witness statements and govt seismic data.
As you lay down to sleep tonight, think about what could have caused blasts in the basement. Who could have put it there? It was 14 and 17 seconds apart. That's a huge fucking margin. Why didn't the 911 commission look at that?
Think about it dude. Use that IQ. Don't just call me silly or loony or dumb. Look at the facts delivered to you directly from the 911 Commission.
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Dude, you were just presented with irrefutable information - from the 911 commission itself - that giant blasts occurred 14 and 17 seconds BEFORE the planes hit.
No, they were RECORDED. Who says the time was exactly accurate? Who says the recorders weren't calibrated to spec? There could probably be a hundred explanations for how this could happen OTHER than yours. Oh no but you and your made up reality are gonna attach the explaination YOU think sounds good.
I can pull up some videotaped witness statements from that day if you want, also.
Awesome so how easy is it to fake these? C'mon.
So in response to the fact that you are seeing - for the first time - clear, scientific evidence that someone other than the 19 arabs had to have been involved - you want to call me a "loony"?
No this is a response to your conjecture about how this came about. Don't get it fucked up like you do everything else.
Shouldn't you be thinking "What the hell blew up in the basement, who put it there, and why didn't the 911 Commission address this?"
Actually you should be asking yourself why you're not more objective and more REASONABLE.
But that would be loony ;)
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Actually it sucks to routinely say rediculus shit. This means you.
You have a high IQ. You're a smart guy. I know that seismic data is in your head. IMO, the 'ridiculous shit' would be ignoring something as huge as witness statements and govt seismic data.
As you lay down to sleep tonight, think about what could have caused blasts in the basement. Who could have put it there? It was 14 and 17 seconds apart. That's a huge fucking margin. Why didn't the 911 commission look at that?
Think about it dude. Use that IQ. Don't just call me silly or loony or dumb. Look at the facts delivered to you directly from the 911 Commission.
As I lay down tonight I am going to question why I so vehemently defend a country full of idiots, liberals and lunatics.
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No, they were RECORDED. Who says the time was exactly accurate? Who says the recorders weren't calibrated to spec? There could probably be a hundred explanations for how this could happen OTHER than yours. Oh no but you and your made up reality are gonna attach the explaination YOU think sounds good.
Recorded using multimillion dollar equipment, based upon nuclear time, recorded to a hundredth of a second.
And, it is corroborated by witness statements.
You're making up scenarios (maybe they calibrated all their equipment wrong). Getting desperate? Look dude, don't reduce yourself to making stuff up. Use the evidence. And you used the word 'reasonable'. Be reasonable. are all the witnesses, and the entire LDEO seismic measuring facility, all wrong?
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No, they were RECORDED. Who says the time was exactly accurate? Who says the recorders weren't calibrated to spec? There could probably be a hundred explanations for how this could happen OTHER than yours. Oh no but you and your made up reality are gonna attach the explaination YOU think sounds good.
I think it's pretty funny you use govt evidence to back up all your points.
Then, when govt evidence shows huge blasts in the WTC basements before the plane hits, you suddenly attack the evidence.
you can't have it both ways. You can't tell us "the 911 commission answered all the questions", then selectively throw out parts of that report which show something big blew up in teh basements before the planes hit.
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Recorded using multimillion dollar equipment, based upon nuclear time, recorded to a hundredth of a second.
And, it is corroborated by witness statements.
You're making up scenarios (maybe they calibrated all their equipment wrong). Getting desperate? Look dude, don't reduce yourself to making stuff up. Use the evidence. And you used the word 'reasonable'. Be reasonable. are all the witnesses, and the entire LDEO seismic measuring facility, all wrong?
I work with multi million dollar equipment and things go wrong with it all the time. Sounds pretty reasonable based on PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
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I think it's pretty funny you use govt evidence to back up all your points.
Then, when govt evidence shows huge blasts in the WTC basements before the plane hits, you suddenly attack the evidence.
I didn't attack the evidence. I just offered other explainations than what YOU attach to things that heven't yet been explained to are unexplainable.
you can't have it both ways. You can't tell us "the 911 commission answered all the questions", then selectively throw out parts of that report which show something big blew up in teh basements before the planes hit.
I never said they answered all the questions. Stop putting words in my mouth. The commission did decide on the most plausable and likely scenario and until someone other than people like yourself can show me more impactual evidence I'm not going to make wild assumptions or go off on a conspiracy theory tirade.
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HAHAHAHAAAHHAHAHHAHAH.... These two are great ....HAAHAHH hAHAHAH hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I don't understand what you mean. EPA scientists risked their careers by coming forward and saying the White House had changed their report in order to reopen wall street. They had research showing people would be a great risk for longterm health problems. They also said professional clearning was the only way to prevent asbestosis and other lung ailments.
It was in their report. But when the report came out, their names were still signed to it, only now it said it was perfectly safe to return to work, and that only soap and water was all that was needed.
They freaked, as lives were at stake. They published their actual report, and the White house had egg on its face. With the NIST report, no lives were at immediate risk, so whistleblower motivation was much lower.
Oz, for you to say "EPA blows it whistles more than a $10 whore blows for crack. Means little.". I don't understand that.
In relation to 9/11 being an inside job involving 100's of people in on the conspriacy including faking the death of the people on the pentagon flight and flight 93 or what ever, the EPA whistle means little.
If anything they goverment was just trying ot get business going again in spite of the EPA warnings.
This is a HUGE point in my assertion that you take bits of info and make them out to be more than they are.
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keep laughing. you're the dumbass dodging bullets for Bush's lies. you're gonna be one pissed off man when you come home, start learning, and come to the realization you're a pawn.
until then, believe whatever it takes to stay alive. The beliefs you hold are shared by only a very small % of Americans at this time. It shrinks every day as more people discover the real reasons we're at war. Do what you do, and I appreciate your service. But you're being pawned, dude.
like i said your convicting people with 0 evidence. a soldier risks his life for your sorry ass and you say something stupid like this. and as i recall you've always said that bush had nothing to do with 911.
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like i said your convicting people with 0 evidence. a soldier risks his life for your sorry ass and you say something stupid like this. and as i recall you've always said that bush had nothing to do with 911.
Are you kidding? Half my posts here are "bring home our soldiers from this bullshit war".
We are in Iraq for Bush's lies. Has nothing to do with 9/11. Bush wanted to squeeze iran, thought he could do so by sparking democracy in both its neighbors. Didn't work.
That soldier is risking his life for my sorry ass? Um, when is the last time a sunni fired a bullet and a shiite and I was endangered? Those fucks are skilling each other and it's their business. The UN has offered to clean up the mess and we still decline, because we want the oil contracts. It's purely greed keeping us there.
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Are you kidding? Half my posts here are "bring home our soldiers from this bullshit war".
We are in Iraq for Bush's lies. Has nothing to do with 9/11. Bush wanted to squeeze iran, thought he could do so by sparking democracy in both its neighbors. Didn't work.
That soldier is risking his life for my sorry ass? Um, when is the last time a sunni fired a bullet and a shiite and I was endangered? Those fucks are skilling each other and it's their business. The UN has offered to clean up the mess and we still decline, because we want the oil contracts. It's purely greed keeping us there.
When, in the history of the UN, have they contained and suppressed anything larger than a fucking riot without the good ole USA being the sheer muscle behind it?
The UN has got to be the most useless org to ever pollute this earth.
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When, in the history of the UN, have they contained and suppressed anything larger than a fucking riot without the good ole USA being the sheer muscle behind it?
The UN has got to be the most useless org to ever pollute this earth.
Which is exactly why you should be a-okay with letting THEIR men take bullets on baghdad streets, rather than US soldiers.
That's the most baffling thing here - they are offering to take over - put a multinational force there, which would not only save US lives, but would slow violence (much easier for a shiite to shoot an american over someone who looks like him).
This is common fucking sense. Someone offering to take your place in quicksand, and you declining because "you're a way better swimmer". What a shame.
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Which is exactly why you should be a-okay with letting THEIR men take bullets on baghdad streets, rather than US soldiers.
If the UN is left in charge we'll see any progress whatsoever grind to a halt.
That's the most baffling thing here - they are offering to take over - put a multinational force there, which would not only save US lives, but would slow violence (much easier for a shiite to shoot an american over someone who looks like him).
Unilateral? I wonder what the percentages of soldiers from which countries will form this "unilateral" force.
This is common fucking sense. Someone offering to take your place in quicksand, and you declining because "you're a way better swimmer". What a shame.
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Well, if this wasn't and inside job, Bush & Company still used it all the same which is the bigest part of the crime in my book... Indited on letting 9/11 happen... maybe not... Indited on his actions after the fact, hell ya.
it's indicted, not indited big guy
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I'm not trying to win any awards for punching holes in official story.
I want to know if NORAD guys intentionally helped terrorists by not doing their jobs so we couldn't shoot down the planes. If so, they are traitors and need to be put on trial. Agreed?
I want to know why Guiliani had the crime scene removed despite federal law regarding plane crashes.
I want to know why nobody tested the metal.
I want to know who in Paki ISI paid Atta his $100k right before 9/11, and why he was so cuddly with CIA guys that morning.
I want to know why Bush wrote an exec order in which he ORDERED FBI agents to halt all investigations into Atta, right before 9/11.
I want to know why Bush was given detailed info about upcoming attacks and did nothing. That is a serious fucking crime if ANY AMERICAN knew men were about to attack and did nothing. Was our ally the German ambassador LYING when he said he warned Bush? Was Putin and other world leaders also lying when they said the same thing?
I want to know why the physical evidence at the Pentagon doesn't support a plane crash, and why all videotaped proof has been hidden?
I want to live in a safe america. If it was negligence, incompetence, or crime - I don't want those same fucks that let planes fly 90 minutes without intercept on 9/11, still in the exact same jobs they had then.
DO YOU?
this is incorrect. Like I have mentioned before, it was lawyers within the Clinton administrion who ordered thos involved with Able Danger to stop investigating Atta.
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this is incorrect. Like I have mentioned before, it was lawyers within the Clinton administrion who ordered thos involved with Able Danger to stop investigating Atta.
The same paki general who had breakfast with Goss and Graham on the morning of 9/11 wired $100,000 to Atta a few days before 9/11.
This is a fact.
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240, you seem to reference eye witnesses when it confirms your theory but talk about how eye witnesses are not reliable in bizarre circumstances like this.
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The same paki general who had breakfast with Goss and Graham on the morning of 9/11 wired $100,000 to Atta a few days before 9/11.
This is a fact.
I am not disputing that.
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I am not disputing that.
you bolded it, and said: "this is incorrect. Like I have mentioned before, it was lawyers within the Clinton administrion who ordered thos involved with Able Danger to stop investigating Atta. "
Dude, of course clinton was incompetent and maybe criminal in it. But the FBI was closing in on Atta in the summer of 2001 and Bush HIMSELF sent them an executive order to back off the investigation.
I think they should BOTH testify at the second 911 investigation.
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oh oh oh
haha i bolded the wrong sentence.
i meant to bold this sentence of your post
"I want to know why Bush wrote an exec order in which he ORDERED FBI agents to halt all investigations into Atta, right before 9/11."
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"I want to know why Bush wrote an exec order in which he ORDERED FBI agents to halt all investigations into Atta, right before 9/11."
If you were to see this document, would it change your beliefs?
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"I want to know why Bush wrote an exec order in which he ORDERED FBI agents to halt all investigations into Atta, right before 9/11."
If you were to see this document, would it change your beliefs?
How can you be sure the document isn't a fake?
Someone showed me a copy of a treaty signed by the US goverment and Aliens before.............
In fact i'm fairly good with photoshop, would you like to me to make a document showing BUSH order the pentagon missle attack also?
Com on dude........... you are still getting your MIS INFORMATION from 9/11 CT sites
IF YOU ARE REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT 9/11 DO REAL RESEARCH... but i guess you are not.
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How can you be sure the document isn't a fake?
In fact i'm fairly good with photoshop, would you like to me to make a document showing BUSH order the pentagon missle attack also?
IF YOU ARE REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT 9/11 DO REAL RESEARCH... but i guess you are not.
If you were shown the executive order in which Bush himself signed, ordering the FBI agents in FL to halt all investigation into Atta and friends, would it convince you?
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Check out the FBI case #W199I-WF-213589, with the direct order from Bush.
Or, just STFU and let the nation go down the drain.
Either way, I could give a shit. 20% of this nation could see a signed confession from Bush and they would still call me crazy. Fuck em. I know what I believe, and it is based in fact and reason. Being continually mocked because "maybe the FBI document is faked", well, I'm arguing with people who don't have the brains or the balls to face reality, and it's a waste of time. Peace.
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Once again, 240 has the scoop. Amazing man. How do you keep uncovering information that the rest of the world doesn't know about?
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Once again, 240 has the scoop. Amazing man. How do you keep uncovering information that the rest of the world doesn't know about?
The shit is 5 years old. Get with the times.
And quit being a sarcastic prick. You know the score. You admitted you'd trust your daughter's life with Alex Jones before George Bush. you know the fucking score. Trying to be cute isn't becoming.
We both know if you saw proof of 911 inside job you'd swallow hard, STFU, and change the channel, you lemming. :)
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The shit is 5 years old. Get with the times.
And quit being a sarcastic prick. You know the score. You admitted you'd trust your daughter's life with Alex Jones before George Bush. you know the fucking score. Trying to be cute isn't becoming.
We both know if you saw proof of 911 inside job you'd swallow hard, STFU, and change the channel, you lemming. :)
Five years old? I'm a little slow dude. It takes a while for me to digest stuff, like the time you said you are fascinated with homosexual porn. I still have a hard time believing that one.
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Five years old? I'm a little slow dude. It takes a while for me to digest stuff, like the time you said you are fascinated with homosexual porn. I still have a hard time believing that one.
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whatever. i've done what I can here. You look at a story about the FBI revealing they were ordered to stand down on Atta right before 9/11, and your silly ass wants to make gay jokes.
you could give a damn about your country. i'm thru wasting time trying to convince idiots. If anyone wants to discuss anything, PM me. I love the USA and I look fwd to the day when misdeeds will be investigated, and anyone guilty will be punished. I have spent hours upon hours researching and posting and sharing, only to have the same people resort to "maybe WIKI forged all those FEMA docuements" and "whatever, you're gay".
have a nice life. When the dollar and the real estate market take turns bottoming out next year, remember I warned ya. When 9/11 docs implicating prior knowledge are declassified on jan 9, 2009, remember i told you. And when Bush flies to Paraguay for a nice retirement party as the nation battles bankruptcy and we're spending the "amero" because the dollar lost the remaining 2% of its initial federal reserve worth from 1913, remember i warned you.
nah, forget it. act surprised ;)
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I'd like to see it
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whatever. i've done what I can here.
Is this like the 100th promise that you will stop being a 911 post prostitute?
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Or, just STFU and let the nation go down the drain.
That comment is like that meat head who accused me of supporting the terrorist because i was against the war. (your passion is clouding your judgement)
Check out the FBI case #W199I-WF-213589, with the direct order from Bush.
Well put the FBI link up that shows the document. We are all waiting! lol
Either way, I could give a shit.
Yeah you do give a shit. In fact it's very important to you. (Based on your numerous posts and arguements over the last 6 months)
Either way, I could give a shit. 20% of this nation could see a signed confession from Bush and they would still call me crazy. f**k em. I know what I believe, and it is based in fact and reason.
AGAIN you refuse to answer my questionS directly: HOW DO YOU KNOW IT'S A LEGITAMITE DOCUMENT AND NOT A FAKE?
YOU GET 99% OF YOUR INFORMATION FROM 9/11 CT sites.
Next direct question (laced with godly reason): Is all the information presented on these sites 100% True?
Being continually mocked because "maybe the FBI document is faked", well, I'm arguing with people who don't have the brains or the balls to face reality, and it's a waste of time. Peace.
You are starting to act like the run of the mill neo con. ("so screw you guys i'm not going to say any more!")
Go ahead keep dodging my "reasoning"
You've let your ego and emotions control your objectivity.
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You are starting to act like the run of the mill neo con. ("so screw you guys i'm not going to say any more!")
You can call me a neo con and I haven't dodged anything. He's acting like the liberal clown he wants so badly not to admit to.
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You can call me a neo con and I haven't dodged anything. He's acting like the liberal clown he wants so badly not to admit to.
I wasn't calling you a neo-con. And from what i can tell you haven't dodged anything... ;)
Also if you are one, it wouldn't make any differnce to me. I love debating all topics. Neo-cons make great debates becuase of teir extreme views, just like extrem libs ;D
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I wasn't calling you a neo-con. And from what i can tell you haven't dodged anything... ;)
Also if you are one, it wouldn't make any differnce to me. I love debating all topics. Neo-cons make great debates becuase of teir extreme views, just like extrem libs ;D
Fair enough.
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He's acting like the liberal clown he wants so badly not to admit to.
In all fairness, I would execute jihadists just as quickly as you. probably faster, as you would stop to curse them and spit, while I would just coldly plug them. So liberal, I be not. I just don't dig wars based on lies.
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crickets
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In all fairness, I would execute jihadists just as quickly as you. probably faster, as you would stop to curse them and spit, while I would just coldly plug them. So liberal, I be not. I just don't dig wars based on lies.
How bout lies based on imaginations and bush haters... you seem to be fond of those.
I wouldn't curse them and spit. I would just quietly inform them that they're about to be executed by a neo-conservative, american jew...let em choke on that for a few minutes before READY........ AIM........
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How bout lies based on imaginations and bush haters... you seem to be fond of those.
Bush told me and the rest of America that Sadaam had a new and active WMD program. He didn't.
Now Bush can blame faulty intel, but since his team creates the teams which give him the intel, it's like blaming your foot for a car accident you cause. it's your own fucking fault. And when the UN's inspection team, which had been in there for a decade, declares there are no WMD, he had a responsibility to check his facts. he didn't. So he's either a liar, or one seriously incompetent leader. Either way, why are you defending him?
I wouldn't curse them and spit. I would just quietly inform them that they're about to be executed by a neo-conservative, american jew...let em choke on that for a few minutes before READY........ AIM........
I would consider killing them to be a necessary task in which I would take no joy. You sound like you'd be jacking off between headshots. Super.
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In all fairness, I would execute jihadists just as quickly as you. probably faster, as you would stop to curse them and spit, while I would just coldly plug them. So liberal, I be not. I just don't dig wars based on lies.
Denial. You believe the only way to avoid an economic collapse is to raise taxes. Right out of the liberal handbook.
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Denial. You believe the only way to avoid an economic collapse is to raise taxes. Right out of the liberal handbook.
No, I believe much higher taxes on the top 1% would slow the deficit very quickly. There is no denying this.
Also Beach Bum, I would like a world where our kids live better than we do. if you understood things like numbers and big words, you would see the cruise mode we're on will put them in a very precarious spot, if not a collapse before then. But I don't wanna bore you or distract you from how good life is. you just go put all your money in the Dow and plan your retirement. Perhaps you will bag my groceries one day.
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No, I believe much higher taxes on the top 1% would slow the deficit very quickly. There is no denying this.
Also Beach Bum, I would like a world where our kids live better than we do. if you understood things like numbers and big words, you would see the cruise mode we're on will put them in a very precarious spot, if not a collapse before then. But I don't wanna bore you or distract you from how good life is. you just go put all your money in the Dow and plan your retirement. Perhaps you will bag my groceries one day.
Quote from: 240 is Back on December 12, 2006, 02:23:21 PM: "Raising taxes is the only way to prevent an economic collapse." :-\
I'll be in my hammock at Kailua beach this weekend. ;D How's the weather in your neck of the woods?
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Quote from: 240 is Back on December 12, 2006, 02:23:21 PM: "Raising taxes is the only way to prevent an economic collapse." :-\
I'll be in my hammock at Kailua beach this weekend. ;D How's the weather in your neck of the woods?
Beautiful in sunny Florida. 82 tomorrow I think? :)
Beach Bum, I want to you to remember one word which will fuck up your retirement by ten years: Amero.
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Beautiful in sunny Florida. 82 tomorrow I think? :)
Beach Bum, I want to you to remember one word which will f**k up your retirement by ten years: Amero.
I'll be retired in about ten years. ::)
"Raising taxes is the only way to prevent an economic collapse." 240.
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I'll be retired in about ten years. ::)
You retirement package lose most of its value when the dollar takes a shit. I think that will be the only good part of all of this bullshit... people who were so smug will get kicked in the teeth by reality.
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You retirement package lose most of its value when the dollar takes a shit. I think that will be the only good part of all of this bullshit... people who were so smug will get kicked in the teeth by reality.
What is my retirement package?
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What is my retirement package?
fucked.
HTH.
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fucked.
HTH.
lol. What is it man? Stocks? Bonds? Property? Cash? What? lol.
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lol. What is it man? Stocks? Bonds? Property? Cash? What? lol.
If you're being a prick, okay.
if you're serious, I can kick opinions around. (leaving now but will be back later). Of course I might be wrong. but it would be a great idea to hedge on whatever the fed does next. if you own a lot of RE and they drop it, then drop it again, woah, you need to think about what to do with it. If the US *very quiet* economic summit that's happening in china goes south, and we can't talk them into dropping the dollar on all levels as they have announced, then you should seriously consider foreign currencies. stocks - shit, 12,400 is amazing right now - but do you think with us bailing on iraq, mnfg will do well? no no no. Do you think it will see 14k if the dollar nosedives? no no no. Remember that all the key people on the inside will bail at once, as they did on 1/2/01. Could happen on 1/2/07. enjoy that christmas rush then cash out before china announces fiscal day 1 that it's telling us to piss off. watch for it - put options will tell you that, as the greedy bastards will even gamble on the fact the stock they're about to sell will take a shit. use their greed against them and plan your own financial success accordingly. I plan on doing okay in what i believe is the upcoming shitstorm, cause I expect it. I can chat more on it if you want (later tonight). but if you wanna just mock me, ok.
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more - i'm late but i am passionate boaut this- we just sold the rights to the big road to connect mex to oklahoma, all thru texas. it will be the import highway from mex and will destroy us mnfg. if you have that, bail now. we won't need illegals with a forein co owning the big Amero Road. and believe you me, they have eyes on connecting it straight thru to canada and completely owning this hemisphere in terms of globalized mnfg and even some service. if you can truck shit from mex to us/can on an int'l highway with zero tariff... holy crap, we're in deep trouble.
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Bush told me and the rest of America that Sadaam had a new and active WMD program. He didn't.
Yeah.... he did. You know so little beyond your world of conspiracy sites.
Now Bush can blame faulty intel, but since his team creates the teams which give him the intel, it's like blaming your foot for a car accident you cause. it's your own fucking fault. And when the UN's inspection team, which had been in there for a decade, declares there are no WMD, he had a responsibility to check his facts. he didn't. So he's either a liar, or one seriously incompetent leader. Either way, why are you defending him?
That's an awesome comparison... so far off I don't know where to begin. I love hearing someone who knows nothing about the intel business make statements like this.
The UN inspection team? Oh yeah... I know. That's the one that Saddam and his Army denied access to at almost every turn. And you say he wasn't hiding something? Please, son.
I would consider killing them to be a necessary task in which I would take no joy. You sound like you'd be jacking off between headshots. Super.
I know... I'm sure you wouldn't be excited at all to kill evil, and dangerous people who want nothing more than to torture, murder, and wrongfully inprison men, women and children even from his own country, AND, who rest assured, would love to do it to some skummy americans much like yourself, your family, friends, etc.
Your moral high ground that you're imagining crumbled along with your conservatism. Any american who doesn't want to see people like this go down, who doesn't feel a great sense of satisfaction from it, either don't appreciate the oppositions intentions or don't have a shred of nationalism and compassion for his countrymen within thier body.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
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If you're being a prick, okay.
if you're serious, I can kick opinions around. (leaving now but will be back later). Of course I might be wrong. but it would be a great idea to hedge on whatever the fed does next. if you own a lot of RE and they drop it, then drop it again, woah, you need to think about what to do with it. If the US *very quiet* economic summit that's happening in china goes south, and we can't talk them into dropping the dollar on all levels as they have announced, then you should seriously consider foreign currencies. stocks - shit, 12,400 is amazing right now - but do you think with us bailing on iraq, mnfg will do well? no no no. Do you think it will see 14k if the dollar nosedives? no no no. Remember that all the key people on the inside will bail at once, as they did on 1/2/01. Could happen on 1/2/07. enjoy that christmas rush then cash out before china announces fiscal day 1 that it's telling us to piss off. watch for it - put options will tell you that, as the greedy bastards will even gamble on the fact the stock they're about to sell will take a shit. use their greed against them and plan your own financial success accordingly. I plan on doing okay in what i believe is the upcoming shitstorm, cause I expect it. I can chat more on it if you want (later tonight). but if you wanna just mock me, ok.
I was asking you to tell my specifically what is contained in my investment portfolio, since you seem to be so knowledgeable about it. ::)
I cannot believe you are trying to act like an economist. You are hardly qualified to do that. Don't you think you should at least own real estate and have an identifiable net worth before you try and give others financial advice? Just a thought . . . .
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I was asking you to tell my specifically what is contained in my investment portfolio, so you seem to be so knowledgeable about it. ::)
I cannot believe you are trying to act like an economist. You are hardly qualified to do that. Don't you think you should at least own real estate and have an identifiable net worth before you try and give others financial advice? Just a thought . . . .
Beach, why don;t you just come clean?
You invested ALL your money in canned Spam didn't you? ;D
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Beach, why don;t you just come clean?
You invested ALL your money in canned Spam didn't you? ;D
lol. Guilty! ;D
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I was asking you to tell my specifically what is contained in my investment portfolio, since you seem to be so knowledgeable about it. ::)
I cannot believe you are trying to act like an economist. You are hardly qualified to do that. Don't you think you should at least own real estate and have an identifiable net worth before you try and give others financial advice? Just a thought . . . .
im not sure what 240 should be giving advice on. he had a complete meltdown and threatened to hunt down and kill another person on the internet chatroom. he has posted over 100 a day for as long as i have been on this board, and is seemingly on this board 90% of the time i bother to check what is going on around here. now, to go with a getbig addiction he is also on a serious CT binge. Even though supposedly his wife had a kid a coupel months ago, that didnt cut anytime into his computer usage.
seriously 240, go cold turkey for like 2 weeks and reevaluate what you are getting from this board as opposed to what you are giving (or compared to what you are giving up to be on it at all times)
but humor me, can you connect the dots between the 911 conspiracy and the weakending dollar?
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cav, there is no connection. trying to look out for my fellow man. BB doesn't wanna listen, that's cool. I'm an MBA, i have a deep understanding of world politics and macroeconomics. I study the hell outta this because i like it. Take it or don't take it. BB, obviously I don't know what is in your stash. I gave generalities based upon which baskets you put your dough in. no need to be a prick.
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cav, there is no connection. trying to look out for my fellow man. BB doesn't wanna listen, that's cool. I'm an MBA, i have a deep understanding of world politics and macroeconomics. I study the hell outta this because i like it. Take it or don't take it. BB, obviously I don't know what is in your stash. I gave generalities based upon which baskets you put your dough in. no need to be a prick.
Who me? :-* No, Beach Bum will not take financial planning and investment advice from a guy who believes we faked the moon landing.
Hey aren't you the one with naked pictures of yourself on the internet that Shawn Ray kept posting? Were those legit or fake?