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who really thinks this is a step in the right direction....except shadow? ;D
Discuss!
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he is a good winner, hard working, stays out of the party scene. Monogomous. Clean cut image.
Gotta be better than before. But it seems to me not many people are happy about it, including the magazines. Any guess as to why?
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he is a good winner, hard working, stays out of the party scene. Monogomous. Clean cut image.
Gotta be better than before. But it seems to me not many people are happy about it, including the magazines. Any guess as to why?
Cause it was a bodybuilding contest not Ms. Teenage U.S.A. ::)
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someone said it yesterday. it was a minivan beating a ferrari cause the ferrari blew a tire.
he was better than coleman, but both Dex and Vic were better bodybuilders.
that wide waist, gh-thick skin is hurting the sport. period.
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someone said it yesterday. it was a minivan beating a ferrari cause the ferrari blew a tire.
he was better than coleman, but both DexMelvin and Vic were better bodybuilders.
that wide waist, gh-thick skin is hurting the sport. period.
Fixed.
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someone said it yesterday. it was a minivan beating a ferrari cause the ferrari blew a tire.
he was better than coleman, but both Dex and Vic were better bodybuilders.
that wide waist, gh-thick skin is hurting the sport. period.
i agree with this, it seems like now it is all about how much drugs you can take, what new drugs you can take to get you to the next level of freakyness, aside from the health effects.... i do agree that Jay is a hard working, clean cut guy, but his physique is still that of a drug hound.
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Cause it was a bodybuilding contest not Ms. Teenage U.S.A. ::)
yea your kidding but there some truth to that, it should be more like a pageant. Their character and how they conduct themselves off the stage should be taken into account as well, thats the MR. part in Mr. Olympia.. How to judge that Im not sure. Maybe an interview type thing. Hell they already have the bathing suit part. And Chick carrys the evening wear part with his discount silk Italian shirts.
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not only that, but you see more veins on baseketball players at the playground.
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yea your kidding but there some truth to that, it should be more like a pageant. Their character and how they conduct themselves off the stage should be taken into account as well, thats the MR. part in Mr. Olympia.. How to judge that Im not sure. Maybe an interview type thing. Hell they already have the bathing suit part. And Chick carrys the evening wear part with his discount silk Italian shirts.
Stupidiest comment of the week maybe even month easy ::)
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not only that, but you see more veins on baseketball players at the playground.
At an elementary school ;D
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not only that, but you see more veins on baseketball players at the playground.
veins are not everything..yates was always in his trademark grainy condition but he also never had any veins in his body..same with nasser.same with flex wheeler..veins don't win competitions..its the whole package jackass
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i agree with this, it seems like now it is all about how much drugs you can take, what new drugs you can take to get you to the next level of freakyness, aside from the health effects.... i do agree that Jay is a hard working, clean cut guy, but his physique is still that of a drug hound.
just tell me wich physiue is not that of a drug hound??virtually every competitor at the mr olympia level or at any level is fuckin a drug hound..don't act like you don't know anything about bodybuilding.jay is no exception
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veins are not everything..yates was always in his trademark grainy condition but he also never had any veins in his body..same with nasser.same with flex wheeler..veins don't win competitions..its the whole package jackass
YOU"RE the jackass. Dorian always had veins. Roadmap calves, vascular quads, arms and delts. Hell, he even had vascular lats in the ab-thigh.
You're a joke. Get lost.
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YOU"RE the jackass. Dorian always had veins. Roadmap calves, vascular quads, arms and delts. Hell, he even had vascular lats in the ab-thigh.
You're a joke. Get lost.
ok did nasser ever had nay veins or flex wheeler or ruhl..your a fuckin retard..you get lost bitch
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ok did nasser ever had nay veins or flex wheeler or ruhl..your a fuckin retard..you get lost bitch
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
shut the fuck up you joke, you are utterly clueless about bodybuilding. yes, nasser had veins. so did flex in some shots. and wow, even nasser!
get lost. ::)
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ok did nasser ever had nay veins or flex wheeler or ruhl..your a fuckin retard..you get lost bitch
Actually they all had more showing then Cutler but another big thing is they also showed striations and looked hard not soft like Jaw "left side" Gutler. Someone needs to photoshop Jaw's right side to his left so he has to right sides and then you will see how ugly his physique really is.
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Stupidiest comment of the week maybe even month easy ::)
nope dont agree. Very good comment, I am sure TA would agree with me and he is the smartest dude here.
As far as vascularity goes, this is all bullshiit. Everyone has the same amount of veins, how else do we get blood to our muscles. Some people have thicker skin and others are young, which translates to less visibility of veins. WHen your skin thins out and you get older and thus saggier, you will see more veins. Jay is just young and has thick skin. Suprising his skin is in such good shape considereing he has a taning machine in his home.
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Stupidiest comment of the week maybe even month easy ::)
the irony
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nope dont agree. Very good comment, I am sure TA would agree with me and he is the smartest dude here.
As far as vascularity goes, this is all bullshiit. Everyone has the same amount of veins, how else do we get blood to our muscles. Some people have thicker skin and others are young, which translates to less visibility of veins. WHen your skin thins out and you get older and thus saggier, you will see more veins. Jay is just young and has thick skin. Suprising his skin is in such good shape considereing he has a taning machine in his home.
correct..some of these guys are just haters
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the irony
I see, HAHAHAHA ;D See if I fuck something up and don't catch it within the first few minutes I just let it go, I am not like pumpster or many others who go back and change a post multiple times. But that being said this isn't the first time I have done something similar to that ;D
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It's nothing new. The best man of the day won based on the standards we've seen for quite some time now.
very well put. The standards that are in place are the problem not Jay, Jay did what Jay had to do to win.
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very well put. The standards that are in place are the problem not Jay, Jay did what Jay had to do to win.
I hear Jay cuts out pictures of appliances from the Sears catalog and hang them up in his gym for inspiration ;D
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I hear Jay cuts out pictures of appliances from the Sears catalog and hang them up in his gym for inspiration ;D
it's what the judges have dictated. I'm sure Jay would much rather walk around at 270ish and look more like he did in 01 but he did what he had to do to win. I can't fault him for it, I can fault the judges since they seem to say one thing and then do another...how is it possible that a guy like Mark Dugdale can't even qualify for the olympia? What "standards" does he not meet? Why are the standards different for the top 6 guys than the rest of the pack? Can you honestly say that Dennis James-and nothing againts him personally-meets more of the judging criteria than Ronnie Rockel?
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it's what the judges have dictated. I'm sure Jay would much rather walk around at 270ish and look more like he did in 01 but he did what he had to do to win. I can't fault him for it, I can fault the judges since they seem to say one thing and then do another...how is it possible that a guy like Mark Dugdale can't even qualify for the olympia? What "standards" does he not meet? Why are the standards different for the top 6 guys than the rest of the pack? Can you honestly say that Dennis James-and nothing againts him personally-meets more of the judging criteria than Ronnie Rockel?
dude mr olympia contest is alla bout mass..one way or the other the mass monster wins..just look at the top 3 of this year..jay,ronnie,vic all of them are mass monsters..so the criteria is all about mass and little symmetry and nothing else...
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it's what the judges have dictated. I'm sure Jay would much rather walk around at 270ish and look more like he did in 01 but he did what he had to do to win. I can't fault him for it, I can fault the judges since they seem to say one thing and then do another...how is it possible that a guy like Mark Dugdale can't even qualify for the olympia? What "standards" does he not meet? Why are the standards different for the top 6 guys than the rest of the pack? Can you honestly say that Dennis James-and nothing againts him personally-meets more of the judging criteria than Ronnie Rockel?
I don't blame Jay for looking the way he does I just don't accept him as Mr. O. He looks like a giant lopsided garbage can. I really think it is not as much the judging but the influences behind the judging, they look for the well known names, popular and sponsor backed competitors and place them highest regardless of their condition on stage.
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Jay went in and took the title. He deserved the victory and worked hard for it, just the way it was that day and for the GPs. Big Ron has won before and beat Jay, but not right now.
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My question is why is Ronnie scored down for the asymetry in his back but Jat never gets scored down for one quad being two inches bigger then the other?Why is Jay never scored down for his thick wide waist?Thin skin is supposed to part[a small part]to be part of the sport.Ronnie seems to be judged with a completely different standard then Jay.Its clear the powers that be wanted a change.The fact that Ronnie got screwed at the Dutch show shows that.
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I don't blame Jay for looking the way he does I just don't accept him as Mr. O. He looks like a giant lopsided garbage can. I really think it is not as much the judging but the influences behind the judging, they look for the well known names, popular and sponsor backed competitors and place them highest regardless of their condition on stage.
lots of things contribute that have nothing to do with who has the best body onstage. Like I said when Rockel, Henry, Alves, Dugdale and guys like that can't even place or qualify it kinda makes me think. Ths sport was it's most popular in the early 90's when guys like Labrada, Ray and Wheeler were top names and they had the same look as the guys I mentioned. Why not push that look and see what happens? It can't get any worse.
Jay went in and took the title. He deserved the victory and worked hard for it, just the way it was that day and for the GPs. Big Ron has won before and beat Jay, but not right now.
very true. Jay did what Jay had to do, I respect him for that jsut like I respected Ron when he won his first few olympia's...I only lost respect for him when he started looking like a pop can with arms and legs.
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It was a good thing ....
for chris dickerson cause now there is a new all time worst Mr. O
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Everyone fails to see that Ronnie's body has taken a beating because of all the drugs he took. Look at his Lats as well as his sunken bitch tits.
Jay will win for the next 3 yrs.
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yea your kidding but there some truth to that, it should be more like a pageant. Their character and how they conduct themselves off the stage should be taken into account as well, thats the MR. part in Mr. Olympia.. How to judge that Im not sure. Maybe an interview type thing. Hell they already have the bathing suit part. And Chick carrys the evening wear part with his discount silk Italian shirts.
hahahaaaa, are you stupid??
This is bodybuilding, not a intelligence contest.
Most bodybuilders would fail a 3rd grade exam.
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Everyone fails to see that Ronnie's body has taken a beating because of all the drugs he took. Look at his Lats as well as his sunken bitch tits.
Jay will win for the next 3 yrs.
actually jay will win for 2 more years and then retire.he said in flex mag that is not interested in winning in 7 or 8 times..he will retire after 2008..
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It was a good thing ....
for chris dickerson cause now there is a new all time worst Mr. O
oh shut up jj you shit....
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hahahaaaa, are you stupid??
This is bodybuilding, not a intelligence contest.
Most bodybuilders would fail a 3rd grade exam.
don't you think that's part of the problem with the way people view BB?
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don't you think that's part of the problem with the way people view BB?
don't you think that there is some reality to this?
bodybuilder's aren't exactly rocket scientists.
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don't you think that there is some reality to this?
bodybuilder's aren't exactly rocket scientists.
yeah but they can still talk with some sort of intelligence don't ya think. Listen to old interviews of Labrada or Shawn Ray...even thought he comes off as an ass on this site he still projected himself well. Levrone could, Vince Taylor could. Why is it so hard for guys to be aware that they are public figures and like it or not they represent BB, if they talk like a bunch of idiots on TV or radio you're gonna have people perceive all of BB as a bunch of idiots. If you talk like you have some intelligence maybe people will stop thinking all BB are morons.
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yeah but they can still talk with some sort of intelligence don't ya think. Listen to old interviews of Labrada or Shawn Ray...even thought he comes off as an ass on this site he still projected himself well. Levrone could, Vince Taylor could. Why is it so hard for guys to be aware that they are public figures and like it or not they represent BB, if they talk like a bunch of idiots on TV or radio you're gonna have people perceive all of BB as a bunch of idiots. If you talk like you have some intelligence maybe people will stop thinking all BB are morons.
Ok, maybe you could name a few who could talk like they WERE intelligent. The ones that actually have brains are even less.
To me, it's a fact. Listen to professional bodybuilders. 95% of them are dumb as fuck. Just watch the DVDs, there's nothing entertaining about most guys.
Jay Cutler has as much personality as a white sheet of paper, Ronnie Coleman looks like an action doll that repeats only 5 sentences. Nealry the same can be said about most of these guys.
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Good question!
IMO, Jay is a good winner. Solid physique.
He have been the nr 2 guy for many years now.
But... Jay as a Mr. O physique is a step in a good direction,
thats another question. Jay is the best mass monster out
there right now. Victor Martinez would cleary been a step
in a good direction.
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Ok, maybe you could name a few who could talk like they WERE intelligent. The ones that actually have brains are even less.
To me, it's a fact. Listen to professional bodybuilders. 95% of them are dumb as f**k. Just watch the DVDs, there's nothing entertaining about most guys.
Jay Cutler has as much personality as a white sheet of paper, Ronnie Coleman looks like an action doll that repeats only 5 sentences. Nealry the same can be said about most of these guys.
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaahahah...'ronnie coleman looks like an action doll that repeats only 5 sentences'...mmmmmmmmmmuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuuuhahahahahaaaaaa aaaaaaaaa..very true..hahahahhhaah
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"The standards that are in place are the problem not Jay, Jay did what Jay had to do to win"
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I agree with this 100%. The standard needs to change for the good of the athletes and the sport. Dexter and Victor look better than Ronnie and Jay. Everyone has been chasing mass the last 10 yrs and physiques are loosing a quality look. Listen to what Serge is saying on his thread. By setting the standard, the BBers will adjust other variables.
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It was a good thing ....
for chris dickerson cause now there is a new all time worst Mr. O
Funny thing is I have been thinking the same exact thing.
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Shadow....how can you hate on Ronnie, and want to butt fuck Jay because they have the exact same type of physique... that just show how ignorant you are...
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I think Jay is a great guy. I met him last summer and he gave me a free signed pic. He was very talkative when I asked him questions. People say he is boring and has no personality. Not true. He answered questions and posed in pics w/gym members. When I was working at the gym when I met him, he came in and asked where we keep the heavy weights and told me to put in some snoop dog.
Physique wise, he is 5'9 and 274lbs onstage. Kinda hard to stand next to that, even for Ronnie. Im guessing he will be 276-280lbs next year. If he is, He will win again. He is improving and Ronnie isnt.
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I think Jay is a great guy. I met him last summer and he gave me a free signed pic. He was very talkative when I asked him questions. People say he is boring and has no personality. Not true. He answered questions and posed in pics w/gym members. When I was working at the gym when I met him, he came in and asked where we keep the heavy weights and told me to put in some snoop dog.
Physique wise, he is 5'9 and 274lbs onstage. Kinda hard to stand next to that, even for Ronnie. Im guessing he will be 276-280lbs next year. If he is, He will win again. He is improving and Ronnie isnt.
So what were you talking about?
international politics?
european 'cuisine'?
rocket science?
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So what were you talking about?
international politics?
european 'cuisine'?
rocket science?
Fat Joe, Ronnie Coleman, Phil Heath
Others talked to him about Raider's Football.
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I think Jay is a great guy. I met him last summer and he gave me a free signed pic. He was very talkative when I asked him questions. People say he is boring and has no personality. Not true. He answered questions and posed in pics w/gym members. When I was working at the gym when I met him, he came in and asked where we keep the heavy weights and told me to put in some snoop dog.
Physique wise, he is 5'9 and 274lbs onstage. Kinda hard to stand next to that, even for Ronnie. Im guessing he will be 276-280lbs next year. If he is, He will win again. He is improving and Ronnie isnt.
nobody is debating on whether Jay is a nice guy or a good guy, but what we are saying is the judges need to induce some sort of change or bodybuilding will turn into mass building....and we don't want that.
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Fat Joe, Ronnie Coleman, Phil Heath
Others talked to him about Raider's Football.
So you were talking about Rap music, bodybuilding and football?
See, that's what i'd say is all Jay can talk about.
Some call it focused, some call it stupid.
You be the judge.
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So you were talking about Rap music, bodybuilding and football?
See, that's what i'd say is all Jay can talk about.
Some call it focused, some call it stupid.
You be the judge.
dude relax, he was training and chatting between sets. he was having a good time.
Arnold did the same thing.
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dude relax, he was training and chatting between sets. he was having a good time.
Arnold did the same thing.
haha, i am relaxed, i'm just playing.
Arnold is governor of california.
Do you think Jay could do that?
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haha, i am relaxed, i'm just playing.
Arnold is governor of california.
Do you think Jay could do that?
who knows?
If Jay applied himself he may be able to get into political office.
back in the 70's Im sure people werent laying down bets that Arnold or Jesse 'the Body' Ventura would be Governor, or G.W. Bush would be president.
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who knows?
If Jay applied himself he may be able to get into political office.
back in the 70's Im sure people werent laying down bets that Arnold or Jesse 'the Body' Ventura would be Governor, or G.W. Bush would be president.
haha, you cannot truly compare Arnold and Jay!
Have you ever seen Pumping Iron??
Arnold is a genius, the guy has brains ans outsmarts a lot of people. People thinking he was dumb gave him a blast too, because they got careless. Now look at Jay, the guy's head is as empty as a container of ON's whey after 4 weeks!
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haha, you cannot truly compare Arnold and Jay!
Have you ever seen Pumping Iron??
Arnold is a genius, the guy has brains ans outsmarts a lot of people. People thinking he was dumb gave him a blast too, because they got careless. Now look at Jay, the guy's head is as empty as a container of ON's whey after 4 weeks!
You are on the verge of a meltdown. let go of the hate/jealousy.
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You are on the verge of a meltdown. let go of the hate/jealousy.
haha, you're kidding. 8)
i guess you have gotten a little mad because i was talking bad about your idol, about whom you have so many nice memories. ::)
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yeah, he is unmeltdownable!
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yeah, he is unmeltdownable!
Thanks for stating the obvious. ;D ;D
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haha, you're kidding. 8)
i guess you have gotten a little mad because i was talking bad about your idol, about whom you have so many nice memories. ::)
nope. I dont feel the need to diss people. Im a secure person.
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just tell me wich physiue is not that of a drug hound??virtually every competitor at the mr olympia level or at any level is fuckin a drug hound..don't act like you don't know anything about bodybuilding.jay is no exception
goodness
let me fix your paragraf some,,,
just tell me wich physiue is not that of a drug hound??virtually every gym rat at any level worth lookin at a second time is fuckin a drug hound..don't act like you don't know anything about bodybuilding.jay is no exception nor is armz ,,nor is any fitness girl on this board and off this board,, wether they compete or not is self confidence dependent. not every drug user got the courage to diet and walk on stage.
i took armz as example of major hormone user for no particular reason,,i could have taken any one else but thats a name i could remember from the board
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veins are not everything..yates was always in his trademark grainy condition but he also never had any veins in his body..same with nasser.same with flex wheeler..veins don't win competitions..its the whole package jackass
Never had veins? I must be blind then.
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YOU"RE the jackass. Dorian always had veins. Roadmap calves, vascular quads, arms and delts. Hell, he even had vascular lats in the ab-thigh.
You're a joke. Get lost.
"You're a joke. Get lost." That's what they've been trying to tell him for the past 4200 posts, but he still won't listen.
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"You're a joke. Get lost." That's what they've been trying to tell him for the past 4200 posts, but he still won't listen.
I sometimes wonder how shadow got this far in life with such low powers of reasoning. Imagine, when he crosses a road, he doesn't look to see if there's a bus coming. If a bus is about to hit him, he just stands there yelling at the driver, 'FUCK U SEND UR MOM 2 MY HOUSE ILL M,AKE HER MY BITCH I MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE A LIL BITCH'etc etc.
Unbelievable the rage this guy has ???
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Jay is the most massive guy, while still maintaining a relatively balanced and proportioned physique. He's deserving of the title under that criteria.
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Jay is the most massive guy, while still maintaining a relatively balanced and proportioned physique. He's deserving of the title under that criteria.
Ronnie was significantly bigger than him. However, like you say, Jay was more balanced and symmetrical, given Ronnie's weird tris, lats and left quad.
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Ronnie was significantly bigger than him. However, like you say, Jay was more balanced and symmetrical, given Ronnie's weird tris, lats and left quad.
Yepper.
And when you consider Jay is like 2 inches shorter, yet he still holds his own, he becomes all the more impressive. His lats were arguably just as wide this year.
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Yepper.
And when you consider Jay is like 2 inches shorter, yet he still holds his own, he becomes all the more impressive. His lats were arguably just as wide this year.
Yeah, I'd probably even say wider. Something happened to both of Ronnie's lats- his lat spread was like, nowhere to be seen ???
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Ronnie got old. ;D
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Ronnie got old. ;D
Well in that one guest posing pic his right lat looked massive, bigger than ever.
Although, yes, they were incredibly shitty small pics where you couldn't really see anything ;D
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Jay is the most massive guy, while still maintaining a relatively balanced and proportioned physique. He's deserving of the title under that criteria.
You sure you are talking about the same Jay Cutler ??? We aren't talking about the new Broncos quarterback, we are talking about the very unbalanced Jay Cutler with the overpowering left side. Do you really follow BBing or are you just here to make up shit and cause a ruckus.
Is this what you called balanced and proportioned ???
(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/jay_cutler/Cutler_215.jpg)(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/jay_cutler/Cutler_192.jpg)
How did this beat Cormier in 04 ???
(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Arnold_Classic/2004/Arnold_Classic_2004_217.jpg)
(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Arnold_Classic/2004/Arnold_Classic_2004_138.jpg)
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He looks very proportioned there, and bigger than Cormier. That's why he's champ. ???