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Shades of Kobe Bryant. The DA is nuts. This case should be dropped.
Old Tests Show Duke Rape Accuser Had Others' DNA in Her Body But None From Players
Wednesday, December 13, 2006
DURHAM, N.C. — The woman accusing three members of the Duke University men's lacrosse team of rape at an off-campus party had DNA from multiple males in her body and underwear, according to a defense motion filed Wednesday.
The private laboratory hired by the prosecution, DNA Security of Burlington, N.C., found that the DNA did not match the three defendants being charged in the case, their lacrosse teammates or anyone else who submitted their DNA to police, including the accuser's boyfriend.
"This is strong evidence of innocence in a case in which the accuser denied engaging in any sexual activity in the days before the alleged assault, told police she last had consensual sexual intercourse a week before the assault, and claimed that her attackers did not use condoms and ejaculated," lawyers for the three players being charged said the motion they filed Wednesday.
"There is not a single mention of this obviously exculpatory evidence in the final DNA Security report."
Raw Data: DNA Motion
The DNA report was included in a slew of documents handed over to the defense by Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong in October.
Durham County District Attorney Nifong Wins First Full Term Durham County District Attorney Nifong's Race Captures National Attention North Carolina District Attorney Race Draws Attention Amid Duke Lacrosse Probe Duke Lacrosse Team Rape Case Draws Attention to District Attorney's Primary Duke Lacrosse Accuser Filed Gang Rape Claim 10 Years Ago Duke Counselors Swamped With Calls in Wake of Alleged Gang Rape Can the Durham Prosecutor Make the Case? FOX Facts: Duke Case Timeline The three now former lacrosse players — Dave Evans, 23, of Bethesda, Md.; Collin Finnerty, 20, of Garden City, N.Y.; and Reade Seligmann, 20, of Essex Fells, N.J. — are facing charges of rape, kidnapping and sexual offense. All three have not only proclaimed their innocence, but the innocence of their teammates as well.
Their trial is not expected to begin until the spring.
The accuser, who is an exotic dancer, was one of two women hired to dance at an off-campus lacrosse party in March. She claims she was gang-raped by three men in a bathroom over a 30-minute period. She told hospital officials that not only was she raped, but that one or more of the men ejaculated, and that her assailants did not wear condoms.
All but one lacrosse player submitted to DNA tests back when the charges first surfaced earlier this year. The sole black player on the team did not get tested because the accuser, who is black, said her attackers were white. Tests failed to conclusively show any lacrosse players' DNA in or on the accuser.
The prosecution has claimed that those tests do not positively prove that no lacrosse players were involved, only that they were careful during the alleged attack.
A few hours after the party on March 14, a doctor and nurse at Duke Hospital examined the accuser and collected standard evidence for a rape kit from her mouth, vagina and other areas. Samples were sent to the State Bureau of Investigation (SBI), which on March 28, found no evidence of semen, blood or saliva.
On April 4 after meeting with Nifon, Durham police called DNA Security for more sensitive Y-chromosome testing that analyzes only male DNA. The next day, Nifong's office asked a judge to approve the transfer of the DNA evidence to DNA Security, since SBI found no traces of semed on any of the swabs from the accuser or her underwear.
The lab would test the swabs and panty stains for DNA and match any results to the 46 players, the accuser and any other DNA samples collected by police.
On April 8, 9 and 10, DNA Security found DNA from multiple males on the panties and from rape-kit swabs. Although DNA Security did not report specifics of those findings, the motions filed Wednesday say other documents provided to defense attorneys in October showed that, "DNA from multiple male sources was discovered on the rectal swabs and panties from the rape kit; it was all compared to the known reference samples from the lacrosse players; and none of it matched any of the players."
By April 10, DNA Security analysts concluded DNA from multiple males was on the accuser's panties in in her rape kit, but none belonged to any of the Duke lacrosse players.
None of those findings, however, were included in DNA Security's final report, according to the defense motion. The motion claims that omission was a direct violation of the company's policy.
Rep. Walter Jones, R-N.C., wrote a letter to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales Tuesday asking for an investigation into Nifong to determine whether he is guilty of prosecutorial misconduct.
"Over the past several months, many of my constituents and a growing number of mainstream media outlets have raised serious questions about the accuser's allegations and Mr. Nifong's prosecution," Jones wrote.
Jones' complaints to Gonzales repeat criticisms that defense attorneys and others have raised about Nifong's handling of the case.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,236362,00.html
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shes a whore
whores lie
those players should get to rape her now for running her mouth
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This bitch needs a lobotamy.
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stupid slut whore
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This would have been funny. But it's quite sad actually.
The damage a lying bitch can do is mind-blowing. That prosecutor is equally dumb as this whore.
She should spend her life paying the players back.
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prosecutor is irresponsible. he wanted to keep his job, and he won re-election because he vowed to bring them to justice.
the funniest part has to be the victim ID'ing one of the kids with a moustache when he didn't have one. I know that anytime I want to commit a crime, I put on my bushy crime moustache. Works every time!
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Accuser is reportedly either 9 months pregnant or has already given birth. :o
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This woman is like all the other lying sluts who want to make a dime off a false story. My gf told me that bitches from 4th grade to 8th grade do this shit the most. Apparently this whore isn't past junior high in terms of mental capacity. The moral of the story is to film every sexual encounter for proof. 8)
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They'll get off without a hitch. The DA's case is almost non-existant.
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The moral of the story is to film every sexual encounter for proof. 8)
sad but true. would keep a lot of dudes from being falsely charged, and nothing would pwn the girl more than letting the trial start then playing the film of her begging to be pegged in teh ass, for the jury, her family, the community, etc etc.
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sad but true. would keep a lot of dudes from being falsely charged, and nothing would pwn the girl more than letting the trial start then playing the film of her begging to be pegged in teh ass, for the jury, her family, the community, etc etc.
the only problem with that little scenario is if she IS a gold-digger, ...that little tape,
...especially if made with neither her knowledge nor consent, would most certainly guarantee her a pay day. :-\
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the only problem with that little scenario is if she IS a gold-digger, ...that little tape,
...especially if made with neither her knowledge nor consent, would most certainly guarantee her a pay day. :-\
WTF do you mean IF? Are you defending her because she's a black woman and you think she's a victim?
Hate to put a damper on your scenario but she HAD A BABY YESTERDAY and the dna DOES NOT match that of any of people she accused!!
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WTF do you mean IF? Are you defending her because she's a black woman and you think she's a victim?
I wasn't defending anyone. I was responding to 240's suggestion that the only way to avoid false rape allegations is to tape a woman having sex. My response was to a general scenario not any specific case. What do you think would happen if you secretly taped a woman having sex, and she sued you? Do you think she'd stand a pretty good chance of collecting?
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This bitch needs a lobotamy.
Maybe she already had one.
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WTF do you mean IF? Are you defending her because she's a black woman and you think she's a victim?
Hate to put a damper on your scenario but she HAD A BABY YESTERDAY and the dna DOES NOT match that of any of people she accused!!
I caught that too. Really makes he a creditable witness now, not that she ever was. People like her shouldn't be able to raise children. The kid should be taken away and adopted by a loving family before it even knows day from night.
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the only problem with that little scenario is if she IS a gold-digger...
She's a stripper.
By definition, she's a gold-digger.
I know many gold-diggers who aren't strippers, but every stripper is a gold-digger.
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This DA ought to have his ass removed. I mean, you expect this sort of behavior from slut strippers, but the DA should have known better.
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Now I aint saying she a gold digga, she needs a gun to her head and should pull the trigga....
I knew this dumb bitch was lying just like every other bottom feeding lying skanks that accuse people of wealth of rape or misconduct
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The best part about all of this, was the new shows and "experts" they had on tv. These people where bashing anyone who doubted this skunt was telling the truth. You where a racist if you thought she was full of shit. Jesse Jackson is a piece of shit, along with all the other bandwagon jumpers.
I hope this bitch gets put in jail for ruining these kids lives. Ruining the whole lax season for Duke. The prosecutor better be thrown out of office. he should have charges brought against him. Blatnetly abusing his power for political gain.
They better be ready when these "rich" parents get some good lawyers and sue the shit out of the state.
Fucking idiots.
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I'd like to hear what Wendy Murphy has to say about this. She is a close second to Gloria Allred as the most irritating woman in America IMO.
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Jesse Jackson has never held a real job, why is he an expert on anything except for scamming people out of money and respect?
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He's a fucking clown who knew his re-election was dependent on this case. The blacks in Durham (it's a predominantly black city) would never have voted for him, if he didn't side with "them." It's a complete joke and these guys, along with the coach, have been irrepairably affected. Stupid whore and stupid public for deciding the verdict before they knew ANY facts.
The kids seem like the type that would slip some other rich white chick GHB or booze and fuck her, not some stripper. Their reputations have been tarnished for sure.
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I'd like to hear what Wendy Murphy has to say about this. She is a close second to Gloria Allred as the most irritating woman in America IMO.
I would to
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Jesse Jackson has never held a real job, why is he an expert on anything except for scamming people out of money and respect?
He is all about equality cap!!!!!!!!!
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He's a fucking clown who knew his re-election was dependent on this case. The blacks in Durham (it's a predominantly black city) would never have voted for him, if he didn't side with "them." It's a complete joke and these guys, along with the coach, have been irrepairably affected. Stupid whore and stupid public for deciding the verdict before they knew ANY facts.
So true. These kids will be remembered as those rapists for the rest of their lives. Not to mention this slut/sumbag prosecutor has ruined there college career for a minimum of 2 years.
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He is all about equality cap!!!!!!!!!
No he's not. He wants the roles reversed.
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I was being sarcastic my friend!!
;)
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This DA ought to have his ass removed. I mean, you expect this sort of behavior from slut strippers, but the DA should have known better.
He had to get re-elected.
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I was being sarcastic my friend!!
;)
He secretly wants white slaves. 8)
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They'll get off without a hitch. The DA's case is almost non-existant.
They lost their entire season and this no doubt hurt the team's recruiting for the upcoming year.
The team paid a tremendous price and it's the bitch who's going to get off having paid no price at all.
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I wasn't defending anyone. I was responding to 240's suggestion that the only way to avoid false rape allegations is to tape a woman having sex. My response was to a general scenario not any specific case. What do you think would happen if you secretly taped a woman having sex, and she sued you? Do you think she'd stand a pretty good chance of collecting?
Incorporate.
Then she can't collect jack.
;D
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They lost their entire season and this no doubt hurt the team's recruiting for the upcoming year.
The team paid a tremendous price and it's the bitch who's going to get off having paid no price at all.
Shit, we'll have to bay for her damn baby. Welfare boys, welfare.
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All team players' DNA was tested, except for the ONE black player.
I don't think we need to look any further for the rapist daddy, ;).
The kids seem like the type that would slip some other rich white chick GHB or booze and f**k her, not some stripper. Their reputations have been tarnished for sure.
Don't know about that. A lot of the guys had a gf, and they are top athletes. They even have a term for the girl fans "lacrosstitutes". Those guys aren't saints, and shouldn't have had a drunken party with strippers. But the effect it has had is pretty absurd. I found it surprising a lot of people labelled them guilty from the first second, just cause they are white and rich.
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She's a stripper.
By definition, she's a gold-digger.
I know many gold-diggers who aren't strippers, but every stripper is a gold-digger.
Tre, I wasn't refering to HER specifically. It was a reference to 240's comment about taping consentual sex.
Now I aint saying she a gold digga, she needs a gun to her head and should pull the trigga....
I knew this dumb bitch was lying just like every other bottom feeding lying skanks that accuse people of wealth of rape or misconduct
Are you implying that people of wealth have never been guilty of rape or misconduct?
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Tre, I wasn't refering to HER specifically. It was a reference to 240's comment about taping consentual sex.
Are you implying that people of wealth have never been guilty of rape or misconduct?
No, I am stating she is a dirty whore who is after their money and public sympathy
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Judge orders paternity test.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2698515
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He had to get re-elected.
Fine, he's been re-elected... time to drop the case. ::)
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No, I am stating she is a dirty whore who is after their money and public sympathy
That wasn't however what you actually said tho.
So true. These kids will be remembered as those rapists for the rest of their lives. Not to mention this slut/sumbag prosecutor has ruined there college career for a minimum of 2 years.
This reminds me very much of the case of those 16 kids in Toronto accused of sexual assault earlier this year.
Instead of abiding by the law and the 'Young Offenders Act', the police came into the school and arrested these kids publicly, defaming them, suspending them from school, forever tarnishing their reputations, and destroying many of their future options. Many of those kids were star athletes who would have gone onto become star college athletes in the states. As a result of the whole debacle many saw scholarships thrown out the window... After all the hoopla, and after all the damage had been done to their futures... the police realized how badly they had screwed up. They tried to plea them out... slaps on the wrists if they would plead guilty and agree to counselling. The boys refused, ...so then prosecutors quiety offered to drop all charges against them in exchange for them agreeing to counselling. Again the boys refused. It's a bit of a nightmare for the cops because they had justified their actions saying it was necessary to do the arrests publicly in the school because this way they could get them all at one time, and they wouldn't have the opportunity to run. They forgot these were 15 - 17 yr old kids who lived with their parents. Where were they going to run to? It's especially heinous because they made this excuse, ...despite having followed the law & proper procedures for 1 of the accused, ...but not for the other 15 the next day. Then after making this half-baked excuse... they successfully orchestrated the simultaneous take-down of 175 suspected gang members at 75 different locations throughout the GTA a few months later. Now if they can co-ordinate simultaneous dawn raids at 75 different locations to capture suspected gang members & gun runners, how can they not co-ordinate visits to the residences of 16 kids ...simultaneous or otherwise?
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That wasn't however what you actually said tho.
Sure people of wealth rape, but the only time it is publicized in is cases like this. If she wasn't black and they weren't from wealth, we would not know about it because she wouldn't be going to these lengths.
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I knew something was fishy with the case...but I couldn't put my finger on it. I wanted to wait till everything was in. The other stripper was shady. The fact that they asked for two black strippers, and not one black, one white, or both white, was fishy. That the black lax player wasn't there. The pics of a drunk stripper (WTF), the accuser getting into the car. There were so many twists and turns, that one couldn't say that they were entirely innocent, and she was lying, beforehand.
Being from Maryland, and a Lax County, and going to a HS where Lax was king, this hits home. Because, if you know about lax players, they are arrogant and well to do---they could, and have gotten away with rape....And the women are "burned" and "skankified", whether they are black or white.
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Sure people of wealth rape, but the only time it is publicized in is cases like this. If she wasn't black and they weren't from wealth, we would not know about it because she wouldn't be going to these lengths.
Don't forget about this disgusto. And this guy videotaped :P
Inside the take-down of Andrew Luster
Fugitive rapist and cosmetics heir Andrew Luster, with new facial hair in this Puerto Vallarta mugshot, was collared Wednesday.
By Matt Bean
Court TV
Duane "Dog" Chapman, the bounty hunter who took down fugitive rapist Andrew Luster in a Mexico showdown Wednesday, beat an FBI attache to the case by mere hours, said an FBI official as details of the frantic struggle emerged late Wednesday.
The scramble for Luster, who skipped out on a crumbling California trial on rape and drugging charges, came down to an early morning confrontation in the street.
After more than five months on the case, Chapman caught up with Luster in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, a resort town of cheap drink specials, discos and American tourists. The bounty hunter brought his sons, Leland and Tim Chapman, and a two-man camera crew.
Leads generated from his Web site had fueled Chapman's five-month search, but this time it was a tip from an American tourist couple who had been in contact with Luster in Puerto Vallarta that set him off.
The couple later tipped off the FBI as well, but Chapman, who boasts 6,000 collars and had followed Luster's trial from Ventura to Santa Monica and beyond, had a head start.
He found the fugitive heir, who had been using the alias David Carrera, in Zoo Bar, near the intersection of avenues Mexico and Honduras. Using mace and handcuffs, Chapman and his crew seized Luster. As the men wrestled Luster outside and piled into two trucks, a Chevrolet Suburban and a Chrysler Voyager, local merchants alerted police to the scuffle.
Chapman's spokesperson, Beth Smith, told Court TV she was on the phone with the burly bounty hunter as he snatched Luster. "[Luster] freaked out a little when he saw Dog," said Smith. "Dog never carries a weapon of any kind, only mace," and it didn't seem like anyone got hurt.
After the take-down, said Smith, the crew headed for the airport. Then the abduction went wrong.
"Duane was taking him to a more secure location and the local cops grabbed him," said Smith.
In Mexico, kidnapping, of a fugitive or not, is an arrestable offense. All six men were detained.
But while Chapman may have been responsible for Luster's eventual return to the U.S., authorities appeared unimpressed with the vigilante's efforts.
Law enforcement officials bristled at the mention of Chapman in a press conference late Wednesday, chastising him for going too far, and signaling that they would not help the bounty hunter dodge potential kidnapping charges.
"I think his actions are just beyond the bounds that I can condone," said Ralph Boelter,
the assistant special agent in charge of the FBI's Ventura office. "He's out there acting on his own ... Certainly it is not something the FBI would condone. We will not be acting on his behalf."
Chapman had his eye on Mexico as early as January. "All these rich guys have their hole in the wall," he said then. "There's always a place where they think there's no cops."
In Mexico, he said, resort employees and local residents often respond to one timeless tactic: handing a potential tipster half of a torn hundred-dollar bill, and promising the other half when their tips pay off.
A Puerto Vallarta newspaper reporter, Angela Corelis, said that fugitive take-downs are commonplace in the resort town. "Once a week they pick someone up down here," said Corelis. "They get drunk and cry about [what they did] in bars."
Ventura County Sheriff Bob Brooks, who said he had six officers working leads on the Luster case at some points in the investigation, told reporters he wasn't embarassed that Chapman scooped his department.
"We were surprised but not embarassed," said Brooks. "He's off the streets."
Just how long it will take before Luster is returned to the U.S. remains to be seen. If Mexican immigration authorities confirm that he was in the country illegally, he could be deported — a quick process. Extradition proceedings would likely take longer.
When Luster does touch down in California, Ventura County authorities will take custody of him.
Officials said Wednesday that it was unclear whether Chapman would qualify for a $10,000 reward for Luster's capture, or for any of the $1 million bond he posted before skipping bail.
"His arrogance was his downfall," said Beth Smith, Chapman's spokesperson and companion. "This is an arrogant person and his his arrogance was his downfall as Dog said it would be."
Luster, the 39-year-old great-grandson of cosmetics king Max Factor, was convicted in absentia of 86 counts, including multiple rape charges connected to assaults in 1996, 1997 and 2000. Police say he videotaped sex with unconscious women after drugging them with the date rape drug GHB.
(from courttv.com)
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Sure people of wealth rape, but the only time it is publicized in is cases like this. If she wasn't black and they weren't from wealth, we would not know about it because she wouldn't be going to these lengths.
The media always highlights stories they believe will pull ratings.
I see scary similarities between this case and Kobe Bryant's case.
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They lost their entire season and this no doubt hurt the team's recruiting for the upcoming year.
The team paid a tremendous price and it's the bitch who's going to get off having paid no price at all.
In the grand scheme of things I would rather get off from kidnapping, rape and other charges than lose a lacrosse season.
This girl has to live with the fact her life is nothing short of shameful. Not that it probably bothers her.
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The best part about all of this, was the new shows and "experts" they had on tv. These people where bashing anyone who doubted this skunt was telling the truth. You where a racist if you thought she was full of shit. Jesse Jackson is a piece of shit, along with all the other bandwagon jumpers.
I hope this bitch gets put in jail for ruining these kids lives. Ruining the whole lax season for Duke. The prosecutor better be thrown out of office. he should have charges brought against him. Blatnetly abusing his power for political gain.
They better be ready when these "rich" parents get some good lawyers and sue the shit out of the state.
Fucking idiots.
Jackson's a freaking racist just like Faarakan, Sharpton, "the NEW Black Panthers" and any other group that backs those idiots........Do any of those people even have a job??
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More double standards and preferential treatment for blacks. ::)
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she sounds like she's about a hoe.point.five
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Don't forget about this disgusto. And this guy videotaped :P
Inside the take-down of Andrew Luster
Fugitive rapist and cosmetics heir Andrew Luster, with new facial hair in this Puerto Vallarta mugshot, was collared Wednesday.
By Matt Bean
Court TV
Duane "Dog" Chapman, the bounty hunter who took down fugitive rapist Andrew Luster in a Mexico showdown Wednesday, beat an FBI attache to the case by mere hours, said an FBI official as details of the frantic struggle emerged late Wednesday.
The scramble for Luster, who skipped out on a crumbling California trial on rape and drugging charges, came down to an early morning confrontation in the street.
After more than five months on the case, Chapman caught up with Luster in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, a resort town of cheap drink specials, discos and American tourists. The bounty hunter brought his sons, Leland and Tim Chapman, and a two-man camera crew.
Leads generated from his Web site had fueled Chapman's five-month search, but this time it was a tip from an American tourist couple who had been in contact with Luster in Puerto Vallarta that set him off.
The couple later tipped off the FBI as well, but Chapman, who boasts 6,000 collars and had followed Luster's trial from Ventura to Santa Monica and beyond, had a head start.
He found the fugitive heir, who had been using the alias David Carrera, in Zoo Bar, near the intersection of avenues Mexico and Honduras. Using mace and handcuffs, Chapman and his crew seized Luster. As the men wrestled Luster outside and piled into two trucks, a Chevrolet Suburban and a Chrysler Voyager, local merchants alerted police to the scuffle.
Chapman's spokesperson, Beth Smith, told Court TV she was on the phone with the burly bounty hunter as he snatched Luster. "[Luster] freaked out a little when he saw Dog," said Smith. "Dog never carries a weapon of any kind, only mace," and it didn't seem like anyone got hurt.
After the take-down, said Smith, the crew headed for the airport. Then the abduction went wrong.
"Duane was taking him to a more secure location and the local cops grabbed him," said Smith.
In Mexico, kidnapping, of a fugitive or not, is an arrestable offense. All six men were detained.
But while Chapman may have been responsible for Luster's eventual return to the U.S., authorities appeared unimpressed with the vigilante's efforts.
Law enforcement officials bristled at the mention of Chapman in a press conference late Wednesday, chastising him for going too far, and signaling that they would not help the bounty hunter dodge potential kidnapping charges.
"I think his actions are just beyond the bounds that I can condone," said Ralph Boelter,
the assistant special agent in charge of the FBI's Ventura office. "He's out there acting on his own ... Certainly it is not something the FBI would condone. We will not be acting on his behalf."
Chapman had his eye on Mexico as early as January. "All these rich guys have their hole in the wall," he said then. "There's always a place where they think there's no cops."
In Mexico, he said, resort employees and local residents often respond to one timeless tactic: handing a potential tipster half of a torn hundred-dollar bill, and promising the other half when their tips pay off.
A Puerto Vallarta newspaper reporter, Angela Corelis, said that fugitive take-downs are commonplace in the resort town. "Once a week they pick someone up down here," said Corelis. "They get drunk and cry about [what they did] in bars."
Ventura County Sheriff Bob Brooks, who said he had six officers working leads on the Luster case at some points in the investigation, told reporters he wasn't embarassed that Chapman scooped his department.
"We were surprised but not embarassed," said Brooks. "He's off the streets."
Just how long it will take before Luster is returned to the U.S. remains to be seen. If Mexican immigration authorities confirm that he was in the country illegally, he could be deported — a quick process. Extradition proceedings would likely take longer.
When Luster does touch down in California, Ventura County authorities will take custody of him.
Officials said Wednesday that it was unclear whether Chapman would qualify for a $10,000 reward for Luster's capture, or for any of the $1 million bond he posted before skipping bail.
"His arrogance was his downfall," said Beth Smith, Chapman's spokesperson and companion. "This is an arrogant person and his his arrogance was his downfall as Dog said it would be."
Luster, the 39-year-old great-grandson of cosmetics king Max Factor, was convicted in absentia of 86 counts, including multiple rape charges connected to assaults in 1996, 1997 and 2000. Police say he videotaped sex with unconscious women after drugging them with the date rape drug GHB.
(from courttv.com)
This is just too bazzare for it to happen. Dog should of known not to get physically involved. He should of detained the guy until the police arrived. He's supposed to be a professional and should know the laws in countries he's working in. Granted what he did was the right thing morally, but Mexico says no bounty hunters and that means no bounty hunters. Dog, no mater how popular and righteous he was, he broke the laws of a country. If the thing were reversed, would we want Mexican bounty hunters here looking for their fugitives? He had the guy, all he had to do was wait till the local federals came along and it would of been over, but he had to be the Dog and turn it into a show. Sorry, now it's his turn.
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This is just too bazzare for it to happen. Dog should of known not to get physically involved. He should of detained the guy until the police arrived. He's supposed to be a professional and should know the laws in countries he's working in. Granted what he did was the right thing morally, but Mexico says no bounty hunters and that means no bounty hunters. Dog, no mater how popular and righteous he was, he broke the laws of a country. If the thing were reversed, would we want Mexican bounty hunters here looking for their fugitives? He had the guy, all he had to do was wait till the local federals came along and it would of been over, but he had to be the Dog and turn it into a show. Sorry, now it's his turn.
I was talking about that Andrew Luster freak. Rich rapist videotapist :P
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just read a good article by Thomas Sowell
The Worst Worsens
December 19, 2006 07:03 AM EST
In his book "The Great Crash 1929," John Kenneth Galbraith said: "The worst continued to worsen." The same can be said of the Duke University "rape" case and District Attorney Michael Nifong.
After all this time, it finally came out in court last week that the DNA samples collected from the underwear and private parts of the alleged victim contained DNA from other men -- but none from the Duke lacrosse players who were accused of raping her.
The head of the DNA testing laboratory testified in court under oath that both he and Nifong knew this and kept it secret.
You think that is incredible? How about a statement made afterwards by District Attorney Nifong that he didn't say anything about this publicly because he was "trying to avoid dragging any names through the mud"?
He certainly did not avoid dragging the names of the Duke lacrosse players through the mud. He not only denounced them, they were paraded in handcuffs in front of the national media. Their pictures were on every television news program across the country.
If these young men get completely exonerated, this episode will still follow them the rest of their lives. Yet they have not been convicted of anything and have not even gone to trial -- which is scheduled for next spring, if it ever takes place.
Indeed, they have not even been interviewed by the police or by the District Attorney who issued denunciations of these white lacrosse players when he was running for office and making a play for the black vote.
Nor has the District Attorney interviewed the woman who claimed to have been raped. In a "he said, she said" situation, anyone interested in the credibility of the two sides would at least have tried to find out what specifically they claimed.
But that is only if you care about the truth, rather than the politics of the situation. Politically, the District Attorney had a black woman who claimed that white men had raped her. That's all he needed to get elected.
Nifong has shown from day one what he was interested in. Showing the "rape" victim only photographs of white Duke lacrosse players were a violation of the basic principles of a lineup.
People who are known to be innocent are included in lineups just to test the credibility of whoever is identifying those picked out as guilty.
If you pick out somebody who was known to be overseas at the time, there goes your credibility. But District Attorney Nifong was not about to risk having the accuser's credibility tested, and certainly not before his election.
All the evidence that has come out has pointed the other way. One of the alleged rapists has a paper trail that shows he wasn't even there when he was supposed to be raping the "exotic dancer."
A black cab driver says he was with him, going to a bank's ATM to get some money -- and bank records show him there at the time when he was supposed to be committing rape.
When confronted with the fact that DNA tests failed to show that any of the Duke lacrosse players' DNA was present on the "exotic dancer," Nifong said that they could have used condoms.
Every part of your body has DNA that is left wherever you have had bodily contact. When you shake someone's hand, you leave your DNA. Each Duke student would have to have had a giant condom covering his whole body to avoid leaving DNA on someone he raped.
Far more is involved in this case than the misdeeds of one District Attorney. There is a segment of the black community -- a small segment, we can hope -- that figures it is payback time for all the black men who have been railroaded to jail on trumped-up charges involving the rape of white women.
The local branch of the NAACP, an organization that fought against such injustices in times past, has thrown its weight behind those who are trying to railroad three white students, who were not even born when these other injustices occurred.
Winston Churchill once said, "If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." Nowhere is that more true than when dealing with the explosive mixture of race and politics.
Nifong deserves to be removed from office and disbarred. If he gets away with all this, it will be a blank check for every prosecutor in the country to abuse the powers of the office.
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just read a good article by Thomas Sowell
The Worst Worsens
December 19, 2006 07:03 AM EST
In his book "The Great Crash 1929," John Kenneth Galbraith said: "The worst continued to worsen." The same can be said of the Duke University "rape" case and District Attorney Michael Nifong.
After all this time, it finally came out in court last week that the DNA samples collected from the underwear and private parts of the alleged victim contained DNA from other men -- but none from the Duke lacrosse players who were accused of raping her.
The head of the DNA testing laboratory testified in court under oath that both he and Nifong knew this and kept it secret.
You think that is incredible? How about a statement made afterwards by District Attorney Nifong that he didn't say anything about this publicly because he was "trying to avoid dragging any names through the mud"?
He certainly did not avoid dragging the names of the Duke lacrosse players through the mud. He not only denounced them, they were paraded in handcuffs in front of the national media. Their pictures were on every television news program across the country.
If these young men get completely exonerated, this episode will still follow them the rest of their lives. Yet they have not been convicted of anything and have not even gone to trial -- which is scheduled for next spring, if it ever takes place.
Indeed, they have not even been interviewed by the police or by the District Attorney who issued denunciations of these white lacrosse players when he was running for office and making a play for the black vote.
Nor has the District Attorney interviewed the woman who claimed to have been raped. In a "he said, she said" situation, anyone interested in the credibility of the two sides would at least have tried to find out what specifically they claimed.
But that is only if you care about the truth, rather than the politics of the situation. Politically, the District Attorney had a black woman who claimed that white men had raped her. That's all he needed to get elected.
Nifong has shown from day one what he was interested in. Showing the "rape" victim only photographs of white Duke lacrosse players were a violation of the basic principles of a lineup.
People who are known to be innocent are included in lineups just to test the credibility of whoever is identifying those picked out as guilty.
If you pick out somebody who was known to be overseas at the time, there goes your credibility. But District Attorney Nifong was not about to risk having the accuser's credibility tested, and certainly not before his election.
All the evidence that has come out has pointed the other way. One of the alleged rapists has a paper trail that shows he wasn't even there when he was supposed to be raping the "exotic dancer."
A black cab driver says he was with him, going to a bank's ATM to get some money -- and bank records show him there at the time when he was supposed to be committing rape.
When confronted with the fact that DNA tests failed to show that any of the Duke lacrosse players' DNA was present on the "exotic dancer," Nifong said that they could have used condoms.
Every part of your body has DNA that is left wherever you have had bodily contact. When you shake someone's hand, you leave your DNA. Each Duke student would have to have had a giant condom covering his whole body to avoid leaving DNA on someone he raped.
Far more is involved in this case than the misdeeds of one District Attorney. There is a segment of the black community -- a small segment, we can hope -- that figures it is payback time for all the black men who have been railroaded to jail on trumped-up charges involving the rape of white women.
The local branch of the NAACP, an organization that fought against such injustices in times past, has thrown its weight behind those who are trying to railroad three white students, who were not even born when these other injustices occurred.
Winston Churchill once said, "If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." Nowhere is that more true than when dealing with the explosive mixture of race and politics.
Nifong deserves to be removed from office and disbarred. If he gets away with all this, it will be a blank check for every prosecutor in the country to abuse the powers of the office.
Welcome back. :) Good article. I cannot believe the Nifong has never interviewed the accuser. :o That's crazy. Talk about a case going up in flames. I'll be really interested to find out who the father of her baby is.
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NIfong had a secret agreement not to release the DNA....
And he never interviewed the accuser?
Geez, this guy is a serious hack.
Whenever anyone in america completely screws something up, it should be referred to as "nifong'ing it"
Like "Wow, I totally "Nifonged" up at work today.
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I really don't like this woman.
But Wendy Murphy, a former prosecutor who now teaches at the New England School of Law, said the decision could actually help Nifong by keeping any discussion about the results of the DNA testing away from the jury.
"It may be that this is a strategic move to insulate the trial itself from a sideshow that certainly would have overwhelmed all the other evidence," Murphy said. "A sideshow about her sex life."
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2706267
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