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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2365081171838960665&q=good+islamic
Now if you are NOT one of those people that takes glee (you know who u r ;)<aye mate i'm preceptive beyond belief>..and it aint just nord<nudge wink folks :) ) in hating others...i DO happen to be from a muslim family..and i'm trying to build a bridge here..
it MUST start someplace...
watch this vid...
for the few thou extremist girls..there a millions of these..
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Yeah but.....There are not enough people standing up and saying that the extremists are wrong..not enough folks doing anything about them. When Christian extremists go off the reservation like the idiots who protest the funerals of soldiers because of the Gay thing..tons of people call them crazy...u see stuff on TV. I want 1 muslim Imam to get on national TV in the US and become unhinged about how his religion is getting hijacked. Or the same in Britain, tell Brit muslims to assimliate and get about making England a better place. I'd like to retire there and I'd rather not have it look like where I'm at now.
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Yeah but.....There are not enough people standing up and saying that the extremists are wrong..not enough folks doing anything about them. When Christian extremists go off the reservation like the idiots who protest the funerals of soldiers because of the Gay thing..tons of people call them crazy...u see stuff on TV. I want 1 Muslim Imam to get on national TV in the US and become unhinged about how his religion is getting hijacked. Or the same in Britain, tell Brit Muslims to assimilate and get about making England a better place. I'd like to retire there and I'd rather not have it look like where I'm at now.
Amen...............you are preaching to the choir. The reason that you won't find even ONE Imam to speak out against the violent extremists, is because they are afraid of their own religion, and what the re procussions will be, if they do. They would be called "infidels", and would probably have a "jihad" put out against them. So, they continue to pretend that it is no big deal. Welcome to Islam....what a joke of a religion.....
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Just like other religions, islam is been twisted and perverted to suit the political goals of the powers that be. Same thing was with christianity during the 15-16 century when people were burned alive for contradicting the church and other realigions were converted to christianity by means of a sword. Nothing changes I guess.
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Who the hell is "Afriad of Islam"?
Never heard of him, but you should know Toxic.
You are one of these monotheist one-god-only-worshipping-everyone-else-is-doomed-religious-terrorists. ;D ;D ;D
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well all that blabbing i did made someone watch it! ;D
i'd love to argue guys but me sick..
but in short..why aren't muslims standing up and saying its wrong..
well lets take my family..with 2 gas stations 2 run and a hefty real estate business..dad n mum dosen't have time to scratch their asses..
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o btw..wanna see anti terrorism muslim ralys...
you're gonna have to buy a satelite dish and subscribe to mostly non US channels..
non US channels show a lot more gore also..which is kinda fun..
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o btw..wanna see anti terrorism muslim ralys...
you're gonna have to buy a satelite dish and subscribe to mostly non US channels..
non US channels show a lot more gore also..which is kinda fun..
Luckily, i cannot view any US channels. ;D ;D
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You haven't answered the question though.
Who is this guy, "Afriad of Islam".
I cannot find him in any book, he is a total mystery man, nearly like Osama in his cave. ::) ::)
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I'm only afraid of people who kill in the name of Islam, muslims pray to the same God I do, therefore we are brothers, not enemies. Now COMMUNISTS, those things scare me!
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I'm only afraid of people who kill in the name of Islam, muslims pray to the same God I do, therefore we are brothers, not enemies. Now COMMUNISTS, those things scare me!
haha, COMMUNISTS!!
Are there still any?
All communists countries have changed their political system very quietly in the last 15 years and are dictatorships with closed or open markets now. (closed market: North Korea; open market dictatorship: China)
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I'm only afraid of people who kill in the name of Islam, muslims pray to the same God I do, therefore we are brothers, not enemies. Now COMMUNISTS, those things scare me!
What religion do you practice? Christians/Jews can't possibly pray to the same God.
I've discussed the logical fallacy surrounding this myth previously.
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communists...LMAO....
how bad were they, btw? wasnt it the US who dropped nukes on civilians first? Hiroshima/Nagasaki rings any bells? dont recall comunists using nukes on civilian targets...
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What religion do you practice? Christians/Jews can't possibly pray to the same God.
I've discussed the logical fallacy surrounding this myth previously.
hahahah "logical" fallacy. I've previously demolished people who've tried saying such a thing ;)
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hahahah "logical" fallacy. I've previously demolished people who've tried saying such a thing ;)
Is Jesus God, the Son of God?
Christians: Yes
Jews: No
Muslims: No
Is Muhammad a prophet of God?
Christians: No
Jews: No
Muslims: Yes
The whole idea of the same God is for easy conversion.
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The concept of God isn't as important. Logically, stricly logically, if all religions believe only in one God, the supreme God, then they all must be praying to the same God.
Done.
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The concept of God isn't as important. Logically, stricly logically, if all religions believe only in one God, the supreme God, then they all must be praying to the same God.
Done.
False.
Logically, stricly logically, if Christians believe Jesus was God and others don't, then they cannot be the same God.
If I say there is one God and his name is John, and you say there is one God and his name is David, do we both believe in the same God?
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False.
Logically, stricly logically, if Christians believe Jesus was God and others don't, then they cannot be the same God.
If I say there is one God and his name is John, and you say there is one God and his name is David, do we both believe in the same God?
Yes John= David in this case, just as Yahweh= Allah, because BOTH religions pray ONLY to ONE God, the supreme God. If all 3 religions are in concensus that there is ONLY ONE Supreme God, then they must all pray to the same God. The individual differences in the religions may determine, however, the characteristics of that God.
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Yes John= David in this case, just as Yahweh= Allah, because BOTH religions pray ONLY to ONE God, the supreme God. If all 3 religions are in concensus that there is ONLY ONE Supreme God, then they must all pray to the same God. The individual differences in the religions may determine, however, the characteristics of that God.
Characteristics can't be determined mutually exclusively if they all pray to the same God.
Christians believe God has a Son.
Jews etc do not believe this. So, God has a son, yet he doesn't have a son, yet the Gods are the same.
The God of the Christians God didn't make a prophet out of mr. child molestor, yet the muslim god did, yet they are the same God?
It's all about conversions.
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The God of the Christians God didn't make a prophet out of mr. child molestor, yet the muslim god did, yet they are the same God?
hahahahahahahahahahahaHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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Oh right, i'm mistaken muhammad had sex with a 9 year old girl? ???
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Characteristics can't be determined mutually exclusively if they all pray to the same God.
Why not, a muslim prays to one God, a christian prays to ONE God, and the jews pray to ONE God. They just have differing opinions about this ONE God. Funny ;)
Christians believe God has a Son.
Jews etc do not believe this. So, God has a son, yet he doesn't have a son, yet the Gods are the same.
This shows ignorance on the subject on your part(I dont mean that in a negative way, you just odnt know). Don't you know that all abrahamic religions pray to the "God of Abraham"? With respect to the characterisitcs of the ONE God, christians are wayyy out there compared to jews and muslims. The trinity is just wayy out there.
The God of the Christians God didn't make a prophet out of mr. child molestor, yet the muslim god did, yet they are the same God?
It's all about conversions.
The Christians dont believe that God revealed his holy message to Muhammed(pbuh). Doesn't make Allah a different God than Yahweh, Elohim, etc.
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Oh right, i'm mistaken muhammad had sex with a 9 year old girl? ???
i seriously thought she ws 14??
and you used to say 14..and then all of a sudden ya changed it to 9...owell..
and at least she ws a girl..now many catholic high priests have sex with little boys mate?
cultural mores mate...in the province of sindh 15 yr old boys are regularly married to 12 and 13 yr old girls....watcha gonna do.. :-\
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Oh right, i'm mistaken muhammad had sex with a 9 year old girl? ???
I highly doubt that, keeping in mind his character. It doesn't correspond.
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Well I think you're wrong. Mostly so in your last paragraph.
I highly doubt that, keeping in mind his character. It doesn't correspond.
His character of beheading ~600 Jewish men? And any boys with pubes? ???
You're denying he had sex with Aisha when she was even tho the most respected islamic doctrines say this is true? ???
There's much you do not know of muhammad.
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Well I think you're wrong. Mostly so in your last paragraph.
NO, YOU'RE WRONG!
I win.
His character of beheading ~600 Jewish men? And any boys with pubes? ???
You're denying he had sex with Aisha when she was even tho the most respected islamic doctrines say this is true? ???
There's much you do not know of muhammad.
Don't really know much about the execution incident but I thought it was because the jews broke a peace treaty with the muslims and conspired with the pagans.
It jsut doesn't make sense that he would do such a thing without good reason considering he forgave the pagans upon hsi conquest of Makkah. The same man who never cursed those who cursed him, threw garbage at him, nearly beat him to death, and more horrendous things of the sort. It JUST DOESNT CORRESPOND.
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NO, YOU'RE WRONG!
I win.
Don't really know much about the execution incident but I thought it was because the jews broke a peace treaty with the muslims and conspired with the pagans.
It jsut doesn't make sense that he would do such a thing without good reason considering he forgave the pagans upon hsi conquest of Makkah. The same man who never cursed those who cursed him, threw garbage at him, nearly beat him to death, and more horrendous things of the sort. It JUST DOESNT CORRESPOND.
No I'm not wrong.
That's a comically perverted view of muhammad you have. Only been researching pro-muslim sources on muhammad I see.
What justifies beheading 600+ men, molesting a young girl and supressing them?
Now go and research some assclown.
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No I'm not wrong.
That's a comically perverted view of muhammad you have. Only been researching pro-muslim sources on muhammad I see.
Now my opinion of you:
That's a dangerously perverted view of Muhammad you have there Mr. "Atheist". Only been researching anti-muslim sources on Muhammad I see.
What justifies beheading 600+ men, molesting a young girl and supressing them?
Now go and research some assclown.
You didnt provide any countrer points to what I said in my post. Perhaps you are the one who really is unaware of the true character of the Prophet. Your opinion is not only wrong, but it is unethical and immoral in the way you propagate your ignorance. Lies, all lies.
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What justifies beheading 600+ men, molesting a young girl and supressing them?
8 cans of Stella?
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Ok brother, research how muhammad dealt with the Banu Qurayzah tribe.
A treaty was broken. But fortunately and conveniently Gabriel give muhammad a message of going to them.
Muhammad was filled with hate upon arrival, the Qurayzah tried to soften him by saying "you are not a barbarous person". Oh how wrong could they be?
The treaty was to accept muhammad as the final prophet of god, and islam as gods religion. Along with others which they declined, but under rule of the muslims.
Muhammad himself actively participated in the murder of hundreds of men. The women and children taken captive.
Would you also say, a man and a boy can be separated by not having, or having pubic hair?
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Ok brother, research how muhammad dealt with the Banu Qurayzah tribe.
A treaty was broken. But fortunately and conveniently Gabriel give muhammad a message of going to them.
Muhammad was filled with hate upon arrival, the Qurayzah tried to soften him by saying "you are not a barbarous person". Oh how wrong could they be?
Ok I wil research it. In the case that jews were conspiring to fight against the muslims, I don't really see how the punishment was exaggerated. Muslims have a right to survive too, penis puffer.
The treaty was to accept muhammad as the final prophet of god, and islam as gods religion. Along with others which they declined, but under rule of the muslims.
hehe, yes that's exactly how it went down. That's the condition under which the transgressor is pardoned. I say thats not a bad deal considering the transgressors guilt.
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Ok right ::)
A prophet of God is also a murderer?
You also believe a good judgement of a human male to determine if he is a man is if he has pubes or not? Because this is muhammads judgement. Is your judgement above that of muhammad?
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Ok right ::)
A prophet of God is also a murderer?
You also believe a good judgement of a human male to determine if he is a man is if he has pubes or not? Because this is muhammads judgement. Is your judgement above that of muhammad?
A prophet of God is just in his actions. By your definition, US law is murderous in that it allows death sentences. So no, so far I don't see him as a murderer.
I can't really respond to the second part since I don't even know if that is true. But what other ways would allow you to judge age/maturity back in the day?
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A prophet of God is just in his actions. By your definition, US law is murderous in that it allows death sentences. So no, so far I don't see him as a murderer.
I can't really respond to the second part since I don't even know if that is true. But what other ways would allow you to judge age/maturity back in the day?
Hahaha you're a comical in-denial zombie!
Back in the day? What are you talking about brother? allah is all knowing! Infallible! All powerful!
allah gave muhammad messages about fucking household problems with aisha for fucks sake. Why didn't the all knowing allah give muhammad some just guidlines?
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Hahaha you're a comical in-denial zombie!
Back in the day? What are you talking about brother? allah is all knowing! Infallible! All powerful!
allah gave muhammad messages about fucking household problems with aisha for fucks sake. Why didn't the all knowing allah give muhammad some just guidlines?
You're the one in denial about Muhammed's good character (or the good side of his character at least). you choose to portray him completely in a negative light. Hence, your motives, reasoning, and objectivity is suspect.
What woulda been more "just" given the circumstances and methods available? Still I think the story should be researched more. I'll try to look into it more.
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I read through Karen Armstrongs account of the incident, and she seemed pretty convincing in making the point that it was needed in order for muslim survival.
http://www.globalwebpost.com/farooqm/study_res/karen_arm/qurayzah.html (http://www.globalwebpost.com/farooqm/study_res/karen_arm/qurayzah.html)
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Nobody has answered the question yet.
Who the hell is this guy "Afriad of Islam"??
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Nobody has answered the question yet.
Who the hell is this guy "Afriad of Islam"??
its a secret and we r not telling..
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its a secret and we r not telling..
Tell me, i want to know who this guy is.
Maybe someone like Lawrence of Arabia or Manfred von Richthofen.
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Tell me, i want to know who this guy is.
Maybe someone like Lawrence of Arabia or Manfred von Richthofen.
hey man i tried finding his picture..i googled "really really really white guy" and nothing popped up..
sorry mang.. :-\
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I read through Karen Armstrongs account of the incident, and she seemed pretty convincing in making the point that it was needed in order for muslim survival.
http://www.globalwebpost.com/farooqm/study_res/karen_arm/qurayzah.html (http://www.globalwebpost.com/farooqm/study_res/karen_arm/qurayzah.html)
Karen Armstrong?
Are you fucking joking me you idiot? She's the biggest islamic apologist ever.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banu_Qurayza
Why not research the FACTS instead of someones (a islamic apologist) OPINION on the matter?
Seriously Haider, I thought you was intelligent, now I just think your a fucking straight up bad person. A man who can't even question his own beliefs which were forced upon him... you're a coward.
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Karen Armstrong?
Are you fucking joking me you idiot? She's the biggest islamic apologist ever.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banu_Qurayza
Why not research the FACTS instead of someones (a islamic apologist) OPINION on the matter?
Seriously Haider, I thought you was intelligent, now I just think your a fucking straight up bad person. A man who can't even question his own beliefs which were forced upon him... you're a coward.
hehe. did you even read what she said? What qualifies a person as an apologist vs an objective person? What in your vast knowledge of the religion of Islam posesses you to say this? what would her motives be to be an apologist for a religion she doesn't even adhere to?
Your arguments are just plain sucking here. Actually, there isn't much to your replies at all except childish insults and ad hominem attacks. And now you have the audacity to judge my intelligence? and my character?! Are you mad? I'm jsut plain dissappointed in the way you're attacking me here. I wont insult you back, and will try to avoid making comparison between our individual characters, but dude I'm not the one going out of his way to insult a man born 1400 yrs ago, or making judgements about another person I don't even know.
The fact that I'm even responding to your psots after the barrage of bullshit coming my way says enough for my objectivity.
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She's an apologist and using her as "evidence" is unacceptable.
This is a none-issue here. You know full well K. Armstrong writes favourably for islam.
Find some other evidence. Whats the problem here?
What's wrong with the FACTUALLY correct Wikipedia entry?
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Banu+Qurayz
Lotsa research for yah!
Ad hominem ::)
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She's an apologist and using her as "evidence" is unacceptable.
This is a none-issue here. You know full well K. Armstrong writes favourably for islam.
Find some other evidence. Whats the problem here?
What's wrong with the FACTUALLY correct Wikipedia entry?
oh brother ::)
The difference between a person who says something positive about a religion vs someone who says something entirely negative is that in the latter case, it is indeed the case msot of the time that an agenda is being pushed. I don't see what Karen Armstrong gains from writing postiive things about Muhammed. And she isn't the only western scholar who speaks positively abt the Prophet and muslims.
I read the wikipedia entry you provided for us and indeed there was nothing that refutes what Karen says. It is clear that banu qurayzah broke a treaty and got what was coming to them. I don't see you criticising the jewish tribes for breaking the treaty, now do I?
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Banu+Qurayz
Lotsa research for yah!
Ad hominem ::)
yes, ad hominem. what logic is there in saying that Karen Armstrong isnt credible only because she has a positive view of the prophet? Can't I turn the argument back on you?
I'll check out the link you posted above as well.
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She's a known islamic apologist. Research Karen Armstrong herself.
The point is you can never accept negative evidence against your prophet no matter how strong it is. And I guess by doing this you're just doing your duty as a muzzy.
You think breaking a treaty deserves the death of all the men of the tribe (any with pubes, could be as young as 14) and the capture of the women and children?
For an enlightened man, muhammad wasn't very enlightened. He was very sadastic and satanic.
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She's a known islamic apologist. Research Karen Armstrong herself.
The point is you can never accept negative evidence against your prophet no matter how strong it is. And I guess by doing this you're just doing your duty as a muzzy.
You think breaking a treaty deserves the death of all the men of the tribe (any with pubes, could be as young as 14) and the capture of the women and children?
For an enlightened man, muhammad wasn't very enlightened. He was very sadastic and satanic.
And you wont mention along side your bullshit incidents where Muhammed was forgiving and peaceful. Only negative things, it kills you to see anything positive about the Prophet. And you tell me that it is my faith that is not allowing me to see your version of the "truth".
Let me tell you this: If infact it was the case that I was blined by my faith, it isn't half as bad as an outsider, who WASN'T born into Islam, to hold a view so negative so religiously as to blind him. Don't ever try to call me a coward again, when in fact you refuse to even read a few verses out of the Qur'an as to understand it within context.
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You think breaking a treaty deserves the death of all the men of the tribe (any with pubes, could be as young as 14) and the capture of the women and children?
For an enlightened man, muhammad wasn't very enlightened. He was very sadastic and satanic.
I wasn't there so I don't know. But keeping in mind his actions and his treatment of other tribes, I find it highly doubtful that he would deem such an action necessary if it truly wasn't. He wasn't superhuman, and if I am to admit that he could make a mistake, I will also have to say that Qurayzah were EXPECTED to be treated in such a way for their actions. There is no doubting that any other tribe would have given them harsher treatment.
You call the prophet sadistic and satanic when infact you have called for the killing of billions of muslims on this board many times. You have even went as far as personally telling me to hang myself for my beliefs, more than once. So, really, you have no moral high ground and neither do you have the knowlege to properly assess the prophet.
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Who says I haven't got anything good to say about him?
It's not in my best interest to facilitate the growth of islam, it's shown the fruits of its labour around the world. What are the benefits of islam? Show me a free nation under islam.
You do realise that many of the good things muhammad said was at a time when muslims had no power. He had to say these things.
As the islamic influence spread across the arabic peninsula prophecies became more and more extreme and violent.
There is a section in the koran where "allah" states that earlier writings may be supersceded by later ones. This unfortunately for many of your arguments nullifies a lot of the koran. Many "good" things are supersceded by much more extreme.
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Who says I haven't got anything good to say about him?
It's not in my best interest to facilitate the growth of islam, it's shown the fruits of its labour around the world. What are the benefits of islam? Show me a free nation under islam.
Because you NEVER have said anything positive about him or Islam. I'm not knowledgeable in history so I dont exactly know why most muslim countries aren't doing that well (malaysia to my knowledge has a good economy, indonaesia doesn't seem to be doing too bad either). But it is clear that corrupt leadership has mostly to do with that, and to blame a religion that is strictly opposed to that just seems stupid to me. And you also seem to not acknowledge how much better Arabia was doing after the arrival and establishment of Islam- look at anything... knowledge, wealth, women's rights, justice, etc. These things, as opposed to your hogwash abt the state of muslim countries today, WAS a direct consequence of the arrival of Islam. :)
You do realise that many of the good things muhammad said was at a time when muslims had no power. He had to say these things.
As the islamic influence spread across the arabic peninsula prophecies became more and more extreme and violent.
There is a section in the koran where "allah" states that earlier writings may be supersceded by later ones. This unfortunately for many of your arguments nullifies a lot of the koran. Many "good" things are supersceded by much more extreme.
Whatever, you're talking out of your ass now. You can't support any of this, since... well, you really have no real knowledge of the religion. This really shows for your credibility man. What are you tryung to prove here? Why do you have convictions about something you have very little knowledge about? It seems very strange to me, it's almsot as if you're scared of something.....ah, I cant believe it comes as I write this but ISLAMOPHOBIA stirkes again! ;)
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Ok haider ::)
Ask your pops:
"Daddy, does Allah make the statement along the lines of: if I give you a similar prophecy, it supercedes the earlier one"
Also, do your research, muhammad did indeed get more violent with his convenient prophecies as his power increased. Check it out... read the koran in the order it should be.
You just say I'm talking out of my arse but can't refute these points.
Indonesia might have money, the Nazi's had a great war machine economy, there are MANY things wrong with Indonesia that relate directly to the koran.
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bottom line:
its all jew's fault....
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bottom line:
its all jew's fault....
no its not..my dad and mum r muslims and 99% of their business dealings are with jews..
all our lawyers r jews..
however there r a lot of dumbfucks that actually DO believe that...
also remember..there is a big difference between a jew and a zionist..
an american zionist asked to spy against america for the sake of israel WILL DO IT...
food for thought..
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no its not..my dad and mum r muslims and 99% of their business dealings are with jews..
all our lawyers r jews..
however there r a lot of dumbfucks that actually DO believe that...
also remember..there is a big difference between a jew and a zionist..
an american zionist asked to spy against america for the sake of israel WILL DO IT...
food for thought..
So would any extremist group, be it Muslim, Christian or Jew.
For that matter many people feel more obligation to their homeland than the country they presently live in.
There have been many Somali Canadians going back to support the Islamic front and they have been donating most their money to it as well.
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So would any extremist group, be it Muslim, Christian or Jew.
For that matter many people feel more obligation to their homeland than the country they presently live in.
There have been many Somali Canadians going back to support the Islamic front and they have been donating most their money to it as well.
american born mate
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6657600254881054584&q=christian+zionism
watch this vid and please explain this 2 me...
maybe i'm totally wrong here..
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or just go to min 13:30 thru min 16...and please explain that to me..i implore you my friend...please tell me thatthats just plain wrong and the video is false..
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or just go to min 13:30 thru min 16...and please explain that to me..i implore you my friend...please tell me thatthats just plain wrong and the video is false..
I don't make it habit of watching these videos. Post a transcript.
By the way many Americans be it Christian or Muslim don't like the government.
I think that is wrong. If you don't like it get involved and change it.
It is easier then you think, especially since your family has money and live in a predominately Muslim area.
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I think that is wrong. If you don't like it get involved and change it.
It is easier then you think, especially since your family has money and live in a predominately Muslim area.
i live in a predominately christian area.ya really think i'd let my folks move to a spot where all i saw were burkas? phuleeze
just skip to min 14 and watch the damn thinhg for 2 mins..2 damn mins..
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Toxic,
I just finished watching part of your video.
This should be changed to who is afraid of Jews or Zion.
Ever heard of the rapture. There are many Christians seeking it.
By the way the early Jews hated the Christian and did what every they could to eradicate them.
It wasn't until the fall of the temple, the dispersion of the Jews and creation of Palestine that the Jews started to have to answer for their poor ways of dealing with Christians.
After Constantine made the Roman empire a Christian state, things became real hard for the Jews, since they were held responsible for killing Christ.
Amazingly enough it is only within the last 50 years that Christians and Jews are starting to come to some type of mutual understanding about God. But most of this has to do with the recreation of the temple and the Rapture, which many fundamentalist Christians are hoping for.
I think there area many more people that fear Zionism and Judaism then fear Muslims. Zionists viewed as very secretive and so are many fundamentalist Christian organizations. These groups are perceived to have well thought out plans that encompass many groups and are not bound by time. I don't buy into it. It is to complex and people would eventually rise against it.
Terrorism isn't complex, it is quick. There is no fear of a master plan that Muslim extremists follow. It is simple, the extermination of all non-Muslims. The methods include conversion through fear, marriage, killings and Apostasy.
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i live in a predominately christian area.ya really think i'd let my folks move to a spot where all i saw were burkas? phuleeze
just skip to min 14 and watch the damn thinhg for 2 mins..2 damn mins..
I forgot here is a link to the Jewish encyclopedia.
It is online now.
I can't find where those quotes were taken from.
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/ (http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/)
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I forgot here is a link to the Jewish encyclopedia.
It is online now.
I can't find where those quotes were taken from.
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/ (http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/)
well i'll take your word for it mate.....maybe the vid ws just propoganda..
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communists...LMAO....
how bad were they, btw? wasnt it the US who dropped nukes on civilians first? Hiroshima/Nagasaki rings any bells? dont recall comunists using nukes on civilian targets...
You sir are an idiot and ignorant of the past, we dropped the bombs to end the war and *GASP*actually SAVE lives. Japan was not surrendering under any circumstances, we needed to make the taste of war so bitter to them that they could not take it. I am quite sure had we not gotten the bomb first another country would have and the world would be a shitty place. Oh and how bad were communists? I dunno, ask some of the dead millions who were starved under *GASP* communist dictators. Let's see, stallin, pol pot, mao, hitler, kim jonh ill etc. All the worst men in history were communist, and all the greatest tragedies in human history occured under communist regimes.
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unlike you, my friend, I was born and lived in a communist country...so shove your TV-induced inferences up your ass
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unlike you, my friend, I was born and lived in a communist country...so shove your TV-induced inferences up your ass
Just because you were raised with it doesn't mean you have to defend it, communism does not work, just admit it! It's much easier this way.
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I agree, it doesnt work. But not beacuse the theory is flawed, but because those idiots who implemented it were focused not on communist principles, but on absolute power.
Now, here's a newsflash - democracy doesnt work either. What is currently now in the west is a ghost democracy - people have the feeling that they are free and protected by a just legal system, yet they are no freer than people in communist states were, as their wellfare is ultimately determinable by the policy of the prevalent government. Like now, for example, when the average taxpayer is in position where he/she is inevitably financing the war in mid-east, which is an ambition of the current administration in power.
Get it?;)
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no its not..my dad and mum r muslims and 99% of their business dealings are with jews..
all our lawyers r jews..
however there r a lot of dumbfucks that actually DO believe that...
also remember..there is a big difference between a jew and a zionist..
an american zionist asked to spy against america for the sake of israel WILL DO IT...
food for thought..
TA, I know bro ;D It was just a joke ;D
Its just that it seems now that every fault is blamed on the jews, so I couldn't resist at taking a shot at the theme.... ;D ;D ;D
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TA, I know bro ;D It was just a joke ;D
Its just that it seems now that every fault is blamed on the jews, so I couldn't resist at taking a shot at the theme.... ;D ;D ;D
<smile>
there r jews and then there r zionists..
just like
there r muslims and then there r terrorists...
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<smile>
there r jews and then there r zionists..
just like
there r muslims and then there r terrorists...
No, there are people that nominate themselves as muslims, then there are muslims which follow islam as prescribed by the koran. The latter is what you've come to know as "terrorists".
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No, there are people that nominate themselves as muslims, then there are muslims which follow islam as prescribed by the koran. The latter is what you've come to know as "terrorists".
coming from the number one zealot on the board thats fucking hilarious.
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coming from the number one zealot on the board thats fucking hilarious.
Ok muslim ::)
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No, there are people that nominate themselves as muslims, then there are muslims which follow islam as prescribed by the koran. The latter is what you've come to know as "terrorists".
there r people that nomanate themselves as christian and then there r people that follow the old testament :-\
badabing right...eh...
lol
eh.... ;D
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Yeah but.....There are not enough people standing up and saying that the extremists are wrong..not enough folks doing anything about them. When Christian extremists go off the reservation like the idiots who protest the funerals of soldiers because of the Gay thing..tons of people call them crazy...u see stuff on TV. I want 1 muslim Imam to get on national TV in the US and become unhinged about how his religion is getting hijacked. Or the same in Britain, tell Brit muslims to assimliate and get about making England a better place. I'd like to retire there and I'd rather not have it look like where I'm at now.
I second that