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Hedgehog could comment on this.
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haha thats messed up
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Yes, this is true.
In most of the gym memberships contracts you sign an agreement
that they can drug test you whenever. Especially the big scandinavian
chain SATS they try to remove all the "big" guys, they often do test
and makes it hard for these people to train by removing heavy weights.
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Yes, this is true.
In most of the gym memberships contracts you sign an agreement
that they can drug test you whenever. Especially the big scandinavian
chain SATS they try to remove all the "big" guys, they often do test
and makes it hard for these people to train by removing heavy weights.
hahah, swedes are fucking guys, id never submit to that shit, europe is gayer than crepes
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wow as if they would test randoms that would be too expensive!
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I always just assumed Europe was as free as North America.
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lol funniest thing ever ;D
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i bet it's just an excuse to see another man's penis.............
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hahah, swedes are fucking guys, id never submit to that shit, europe is gayer than crepes
There are plenty of Swedes who can bitchslap you all over the place, hähä. ;)
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Hedgehog could comment on this.
Yes Hedgehog, I am curious... Not to say shocked... I know some swedish people and they always say that in Sweden there are tons of bad ass gyms.
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F*cking hypocrytes. Why is the whole world anti-steroids? Thousands of people are getting killed everyday because of alcohol (LEGAL!) and harddrugs while normal and responsible steroid use by adults only improves life. Do they really want to see all proffesional athletes going back to a level of 50 years ago? Not even one single study can verify that steroids can cause live threathening sideeffects, but all those f*cktards act like they do.
Something needs to be done about the anti-steroid lies currently flowing around in all the underdeveloped brains of this world.
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F*cking hypocrytes. Why is the whole world anti-steroids? Thousands of people are getting killed everyday because of alcohol (LEGAL!) and harddrugs while normal and responsible steroid use by adults only improves life. Do they really want to see all proffesional athletes going back to a level of 50 years ago? Not even one single study can verify that steroids can cause live threathening sideeffects, but all those f*cktards act like they do.
Something needs to be done about the anti-steroid lies currently flowing around in all the underdeveloped brains of this world.
oh ok, so fucking with the human endocrine system is perfectly safe? keep telling yourself that buddy
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oh ok, so fucking with the human endocrine system is perfectly safe? keep telling yourself that buddy
It's up to people like you to prove these sort of claims. Where is your evidence?
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My evidence is that sticking a needle in your ass and injecting testosterone is artificially creating hormonal imbalances to the endocrine system how could that possibly be safe? I mean sure go ahead and take steroids but don't take them under the pretence that its "safe"
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I work as a personal trainer in a swedish gym chain.
They doping test people quite often.
At least 6-10 whole days this year.
Even one staff member got caught after testing positive in a test.
When the drugtesters are in the gym, quite many members that are coming in
to the gym simply turn around and run out.
I will not do it, but if I want, I can order a drugtest team to come a certain weekday
and start testing all suspicious looking people.
I do agree about alcohol beeing a far worse drug and mild use of AAS
could be beneficial for many people.
However the guy with no legs, weak as a kitten(20lbs curls) with big upper body
and eyeballing people with a crazy stare, developing gyno....
One of our newer gym in the suburbs have the iranian gang, a bunch of 18-20y olds small 150lbs kids but starting to look bloated
and bad acne broke out on some of them.
They cause some trouble refusing to leave after closing time, threatening other gym members with knives
on the parking lot.
Imho they should get rid of them in one way or another.
I focus more on the members that stalk or harass the female gym members in my gym.
Its mostly 45-60y old men that are the perverts.
I cant revoke their membership but I can scare them and force them to behave :(
Then we have thieves, mentally ill ppl, anorectics... crazy gym board members that say
whey protein and creatine should be illegal and suggest we(all the PT staff) report all members and trainers that drink
proteinshakes.....!!!!!!!????
Very frustrating to have to listen to crap like that.
In most cases, AAS abusers are not a problem at all.
I am pro AAS but I do hate seeing those members that dont know how to train,
using featherweights and shoot AAS in their butts.
At staff events and parties sometimes co workers ask me if I am a user.
I suspect that sooner or later a test team will be there waiting for me as well.
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I work as a personal trainer in a swedish gym chain.
They doping test people quite often.
At least 6-10 whole days this year.
Even one staff member got caught after testing positive in a test.
When the drugtesters are in the gym, quite many members that are coming in
to the gym simply turn around and run out.
I will not do it, but if I want, I can order a drugtest team to come a certain weekday
and start testing all suspicious looking people.
I do agree about alcohol beeing a far worse drug and mild use of AAS
could be beneficial for many people.
However the guy with no legs, weak as a kitten(20lbs curls) with big upper body
and eyeballing people with a crazy stare, developing gyno....
One of our newer gym in the suburbs have the iranian gang, a bunch of 18-20y olds small 150lbs kids but starting to look bloated
and bad acne broke out on some of them.
They cause some trouble refusing to leave after closing time, threatening other gym members with knives
on the parking lot.
Imho they should get rid of them in one way or another.
I focus more on the members that stalk or harass the female gym members in my gym.
Its mostly 45-60y old men that are the perverts.
I cant revoke their membership but I can scare them and force them to behave :(
Then we have thieves, mentally ill ppl, anorectics... crazy gym board members that say
whey protein and creatine should be illegal and suggest we(all the PT staff) report all members and trainers that drink
proteinshakes.....!!!!!!!????
Very frustrating to have to listen to crap like that.
In most cases, AAS abusers are not a problem at all.
I am pro AAS but I do hate seeing those members that dont know how to train,
using featherweights and shoot AAS in their butts.
At staff events and parties sometimes co workers ask me if I am a user.
I suspect that sooner or later a test team will be there waiting for me as well.
The Iranian gang should be beated almost to death and then send them to their country (this has nothing to do with AAS usage, it has to do with gay european laws and government (I am european too)).
About the AAS usage... It is the most stupid thing I ever heard... Drug tests in gyms... Europe and the western world is being dominated by the gay socialists liberalists, that dictate rules of good behaviour for its natties and alows the "foreigners" from middle east to do what they want. People can't smoke, can't drink, can't do nothing... This is pissing me off >:(
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Yes Hedgehog, I am curious... Not to say shocked... I know some swedish people and they always say that in Sweden there are tons of bad ass gyms.
Here's how it goes:
A lot of gyms are public in Sweden, and often run by clubs that are members of the national sports federation, and thus are WADA committed.
If you train at such a facility, you agree to WADA rules. Pretty simple.
Most private gyms are not part of the national sports federation however, so they have to pay their own way to test their members.
If they choose an anti-drug policy in the first place, that is.
Hope this cleared it up.
In short: Public gyms - tests on everyone. Private gyms - no tests.
-Hedge
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The Iranian gang should be beated almost to death and then send them to their country (this has nothing to do with AAS usage, it has to do with gay european laws and government (I am european too)).
About the AAS usage... It is the most stupid thing I ever heard... Drug tests in gyms... Europe and the western world is being dominated by the gay socialists liberalists, that dictate rules of good behaviour for its natties and alows the "foreigners" from middle east to do what they want. People can't smoke, can't drink, can't do nothing... This is pissing me off >:(
compared to american gyms where people can get kicked out of for grunting while lifting ::)
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compared to american gyms where people can get kicked out of for grunting while lifting ::)
lol exactly... americans crying about civil rights... when they should worry about their own country first..:.that bush is turning usa into a gestapo state with the help of people such as "delusional liberal".
and fat women can push a red botton just because a guy is interupting her so called workout
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There are plenty of Swedes who can bitchslap you all over the place, hähä. ;)
right, and im sure you're one of them toughguy
looks like its time for another drug test, maybe this time you'll ask the technician to pull it out of your shorts himself like you've always been hoping he'd do ;)
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Sweden isn't the only country with such a stupid AAS policy, belgium also has random tests at all kinds of gyms. However i do not know the consequenses for testing positive in belgium.
In my own country (Netherlands) AAS is also considered a controlled substance. However the authorities do not seem to actively hunt down the sources. It looks like they think its a total waste of money. A lot of AAS users are normal people with jobs, families and are well educated. Legalisation is not an option, because our country would collapse with other (surrounding) countries. We are allready facing problems with the "let it be" policy of marihuana (coffeeshops are allowed to sell it, but growing the goods is forbidden) which is pretty stupid.
However we just had national elections, and it seems the leftists are getting the ready to rule the country. The communists booked a major victory by spreading lies among all the voters, and a lot of them fell for it. Maybe they will ban individual sports like bodybuilding, like they used to do in the USSR.
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If you test positive, then what?
your punishment consists of having to live in sweden
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getting thrown out of pussy gyms like that probably is the best thing that could happend to people... support the underground gyms!
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steroids only hurt the end user, whereas alcohol hurts both the end user and can also cause collateral damage thru car accidents, etc
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If you test positive, then what?
WADA rules applies.
You're banned from all WADA affiliated gyms, clubs and training facilities globally for 2 years.
I think, but this I am not sure of, that you will receive an automatic 4 year ban the second time caught (may be longer). And an automatic lifetime suspension the third time?
This could be wrong though, I know it applies for competitive athletes, don't know if it is as strict for non-competing recreational lifters.
-Hedge
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your punishment consists of having to live in sweden
Have you seen the Swedish women? They all look like super models, even the ones working dead end jobs at convience stores.
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It was a while since I was at SATS oden plan, but semi hardcore?
Their heaviest dumbell was 80lbs...
But I do agree that odenplan is their best SATS gym.
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Shit. I am currently living in Stockholm, but have not heard of this. Usually training on SATS Odenplan, which by the way is the only even semi-hardcore SATS gym I have found in Stockholm. After having visited quite a few of these places, I now classify SATS gyms as follows: hardcore ones have a (!) leg press, most others don't.
Lowered expectations...
Why don't you train in the gyms all the bb competitors train at? Delta Gym for example?
There is no such thing as a hardcore SATS gym.
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you want crazy laws?...in romania aas falls in the same category offense as coke and other hard drugs...that's crazy...all this while u have local pimps parading 100k benzes all over town laughing at law enforcement....i always told my buddies how i loved the fact that in US policemen are strong big masculine guys not 150 lbs pussies and they never take crap from people...u would not belive the shit that happens here...
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you want crazy laws?...in romania aas falls in the same category offense as coke and other hard drugs...that's crazy...all this while u have local pimps parading 100k benzes all over town laughing at law enforcement....i always told my buddies how i loved the fact that in US policemen are strong big masculine guys not 150 lbs pussies and they never take crap from people...u would not belive the shit that happens here...
Not all U.S. cops are big but I know allot do go to the gym on a regular basis, at my gym there are quite a few cops that workout here and are pretty big dudes, the one guy even takes some kind of grappling martial arts.
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European police officers are a big joke. They have a policy now to recruit more woman and minorities, regardless of skill etc. They are treated like criminals when using violence against armed suspects. People with a bodybuilding like physique are generally not accepted because they think its provocating for the public. Police officers are not stimulated to workout etc. and most of them end up fat.
Civilians dont respect police officers and treat them like shit, without a possible arrest.
Anyway that is what you get with the socialists and leftists in charge.
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Have you seen the Swedish women? They all look like super models, even the ones working dead end jobs at convience stores.
i havent been to the nordic countries but i'm quite hesitant to believe that. they may be blonde and relatively in shape but definitely not supermodels.
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Steriods are a problem just like genetic engineering is problem. I mean genetic engineering is programming everyone to have the genetics of the best athlete. Meaning people would have to give there kids designer genetics just to compete in the fulture world. Steriods are like the the present example of this fulture technology. People want to be competitive in sport they gotta take steriods. So why would any goverment wanna support the popularity of a drug that in the end is gonna cost tax payers money(hospital bills and so on). And saying aas aren't harmful is total bullshit. I mean it's likly to say just the aas we had in the 60's were as bad as smoking meaning not everyone that smokes dies but it'll take atleast ten years off your life.THat's just based on the drugs we had then not to mention the newer stuff.