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Title: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: bigally on December 26, 2006, 03:13:29 PM
I have done my homework.  Seen all of the videos I could.  Listened to all of the talk.  Read most things I could draw up on the web.  Gathered opinions from my MMA friends/fans.............so here I go.................I am suddenly leaning towards tito in this fight.  Never thought I would.  There it is......ps....watch the the Rampage/Lidell fight.
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: Royalty on December 26, 2006, 03:18:43 PM
Yup. Tito will find a way to get this fight on the mat....And the elbows will drop!
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: Fury on December 26, 2006, 03:20:10 PM
Tito by decision although I wouldn't doubt a 4th or 5th round KO from him.
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: Your MAAAAaaaa on December 26, 2006, 03:45:26 PM
good grief!!!!!!


Chuck by KO in the third


ta ta
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: Earl1972 on December 26, 2006, 03:58:34 PM
chuck by ko round 2

he won't try to stand toe to toe with chuck like last time

he'll just try to get him to the ground, he'll fail and eventually get caught

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Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: Bluto on December 26, 2006, 04:15:20 PM
chuck ko round one.

fingernailjab in the eye followed by 3-4 punches BOOM

YEAH BABY
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: americanbulldog on December 26, 2006, 05:04:24 PM
Chack will:

1.  Grab the fence.

2.  Thumb the eye.

3.  Throw an overhand right/left hook/right uppercut combo that will KO Tito. 

I want Ortiz to win, but unless Mario will tape Chacks thumbs back, this is ineveitable. 
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: Bluto on December 26, 2006, 06:15:34 PM
tito has looked pretty ok though last fights, but then he mostly fought chumps so that aint saying much
still, there's some kinda nerve to that fight so it will be worth watching because of the hype, smacktalk etc you dont get that shit in any of the other mma organizations
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: RancherRanger on December 27, 2006, 04:56:43 AM
I want Tito to win but I don't see it happening.  Chuck will thumb em followed by a short flury that stops the fight!
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: Logan32 on December 27, 2006, 05:36:11 AM
I have done my homework.  Seen all of the videos I could.  Listened to all of the talk.  Read most things I could draw up on the web.  Gathered opinions from my MMA friends/fans.............so here I go.................I am suddenly leaning towards tito in this fight.  Never thought I would.  There it is......ps....watch the the Rampage/Lidell fight.

What does the the Rampage fight have to do with the Ortiz/Liddell fight?

Either way I think it will be a great fight. Now that UFC has the contract on Page I am definitely looking forward to the rematch.
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: sandycoosworth on December 27, 2006, 07:13:50 AM
tito is afraid of chucks hands, that will prevent him from taking the fight to the ground ... liddell via decision or vicious KO
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: dirtysanchez on December 27, 2006, 09:13:21 AM
It pisses me off, but Chuck via KO again  :(
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: bigally on December 27, 2006, 10:37:06 AM
What does the the Rampage fight have to do with the Ortiz/Liddell fight?

If you watch any fight......you observe behavior/trends/indicators.  How does a fighter react under specific circumstances?  Go right at Chuck & he behaves differently.  Then again who really knows?.....On any given Sunday.................. .........

Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: Eric15210 on December 27, 2006, 10:48:41 AM
Tito will tap Chuck out  :-\ - I think
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: dootle on December 27, 2006, 01:49:43 PM
i like both fighters(well,i liked tito,then hated,liked,hated,like again..sort of)..i do think tito will get ko'd if he goes after chuck like babalu did(he was beggin for it)..as soon as chuck catches tito ,he will instantly follow up with 10 more(and the fight ends the same way the last one did)..if tito gets him to the mat, the fight will end by stoppage(he'll cut chuck with elbow strikes)..i like chuck and hope he wins,but will still be happy for tito if he wins..if so,we got another awesome rubber match
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: torquemada on December 27, 2006, 02:51:42 PM
Chack will:

1.  Grab the fence.

2.  Thumb the eye.

3.  Throw an overhand right/left hook/right uppercut combo that will KO Tito. 

I want Ortiz to win, but unless Mario will tape Chacks thumbs back, this is ineveitable. 

That's pretty much the way I'm calling it. My wife and I were supposed to go away fro a NYE getaway; she stops, looks at me, and says "We can't go.  UFC is Sat. night."













God, I love her... ;D
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: Fury on December 27, 2006, 03:02:17 PM
That's pretty much the way I'm calling it. My wife and I were supposed to go away fro a NYE getaway; she stops, looks at me, and says "We can't go.  UFC is Sat. night."


God, I love her... ;D

She's definetely a keeper.
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 27, 2006, 03:26:57 PM
In boxing they check the gloves and the hand wrap to make sure there isn't any monkey buisness.   In MMA they never check those pads on those fingerless gloves.  How do you know if a guy doesn't have them filled with sand?  One hit with sand filled gloves and it's lights out or a fracture. 
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: torquemada on December 27, 2006, 03:48:24 PM
In boxing they check the gloves and the hand wrap to make sure there isn't any monkey buisness.   In MMA they never check those pads on those fingerless gloves.  How do you know if a guy doesn't have them filled with sand?  One hit with sand filled gloves and it's lights out or a fracture. 

They check the gloves; notice on the tape where NSAC is written in NV fights.  Nevada Atate Athletic Comission...
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on December 27, 2006, 05:01:11 PM
Ive said it before and I'll say it again, Tito learned his lesson the last time, this time  I see Tito resorting back to his old "Lay and Pray" tactics en route to a decision victory, maybe even a TKO stoppage in the later rounds.  The only way I see Chuck winning involves a finger to the eye followed by a flurry of sloppy punches.  If Tito wins this fight Randy Couture said he will come out of retirement to fight him.  Then maybe we can see Chuck/Wandy in Feb. (I doubt it though).
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: Mr.Totality on December 27, 2006, 05:45:09 PM
I see CHuck taking it by TKO rd 3.  This will lead to a June showdown with the newly signed Rampage.  GIving Chuck the chance to avenge his loss.  Then finally with nothing left to prove, he will move up and get crushed by Cro Cop.  Got I love the UFC now
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: ReEvolution on December 27, 2006, 11:26:17 PM
In boxing they check the gloves and the hand wrap to make sure there isn't any monkey buisness.   In MMA they never check those pads on those fingerless gloves.  How do you know if a guy doesn't have them filled with sand?  One hit with sand filled gloves and it's lights out or a fracture. 
yeah,  they just say fuck it and put sacrete in the gloves

chuck wins by KO again, and always will against these ground guys
hopefully rampage has his damn head on straight and gets back to form
that will be a much better fight IMO
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: Benny B on December 29, 2006, 06:25:34 AM
Chuck is gonna knock that whore-lovin' asshole out...again!  >:(
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: dovidov on December 29, 2006, 08:14:39 PM
Tito will break his face
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: Wombat on December 29, 2006, 08:18:04 PM
The problem is that Tito will not get him to the ground...Not many can...And if he can't get him to the ground, he can not win...Chuck by KO in the 3rd round...Tito will run from him and then get sloppy and get caught..Although i would like to see the opposite happen...
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: Scimowser on December 30, 2006, 12:16:18 AM
Chucks my favourite fghter, but you cant look passed Tito for this one. He's got the best GNP in UFC IMO, and his striking has really improved. His wrestling skills are evidently still there, if he is allowed to use them then i think he's got this one. If he does manage to get the mount on Chuck its game over

If he decides to trade with him, hes sleeping again. I think he's too smart for that now, i honestly think he's got this one  :-\
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: americanbulldog on December 30, 2006, 01:01:36 AM
I predict three fence grabs, and one thumb.  Then third round TKO. 
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: Scimowser on December 30, 2006, 01:17:13 AM
well Big John needs to take Chuck aside and warn him or nothing will ever change. If he continuously gets away with it and the referee sees no problem then whats all the bitching about? Until the refs take a stand nothing can be done
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: Eric15210 on December 30, 2006, 08:54:15 AM
Tito looks huge next to Chuck
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: thewickedtruth on December 30, 2006, 10:35:35 AM
Tito could only beat Griffon by a decision and you're wanting to sit here and convince me/us that he'll take Chuck?  With so many of you on his nutz there will never be room for that belt around his waist anyway.
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: Fury on December 30, 2006, 10:44:38 AM
Tito could only beat Griffon by a decision and you're wanting to sit here and convince me/us that he'll take Chuck?  With so many of you on his nutz there will never be room for that belt around his waist anyway.


Either way, should be an interesting fight.
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: MindSpin on December 30, 2006, 10:45:20 AM
Tito could only beat Griffon by a decision and you're wanting to sit here and convince me/us that he'll take Chuck?  With so many of you on his nutz there will never be room for that belt around his waist anyway.


Tito fought griffin with an injury.  I think he has a chance in this fight, especially after seeing the liddell all access spot.  seems like chuck is getting distracted with the trappings of success.  that said, the way he stared tito down in the weigh in made look like he was on…
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: Scimowser on December 30, 2006, 10:47:44 AM
Titos looking really good all round whereas Chuck is a knockout specialist. Any other time i wouldnt blink before saying Chuck would knock him out, but i have a horrible feeling Tito could take him.

Anyway 1 performance in a fight against a nut case like Griffin doesnt make for a fight against someone like Chuck. Babalu took Fedor the distrance but you think Fedor would destroy Liddell in minutes. In other words, until they fight theres no telling what will happen. I am genuinely looking forward to this fight though
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: MindSpin on December 30, 2006, 10:48:54 AM
Tito looks huge next to Chuck

Here is the unmorphed pic...

(http://media.ufc.tv/i.cfc?method=get&w=550&cs=1&s=D18BB217-1422-0E8C-9A4760E016C5F750.jpg)
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: MindSpin on December 30, 2006, 10:52:52 AM
Is it me, or does Arlovski look puny here ???

(http://media.ufc.tv/i.cfc?method=get&w=550&cs=1&s=D185A076-1422-0E8C-9A26110996714A8D.jpg)

(http://media.ufc.tv/i.cfc?method=get&w=550&cs=1&s=D1861519-1422-0E8C-9AEEB40D26E212EC.jpg)
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: Scimowser on December 30, 2006, 10:55:08 AM
he looks like hes lost 20lbs, i think we have seen the best of the pitbull. The way he showed himself in the Sylvia rubber match proves he doesnt have the heart to go toe to toe with a guy who he knows can beat him
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: MindSpin on December 30, 2006, 10:58:03 AM
he looks like hes lost 20lbs, i think we have seen the best of the pitbull. The way he showed himself in the Sylvia rubber match proves he doesnt have the heart to go toe to toe with a guy who he knows can beat him

I was surprised that he didn't go for a takedown in the last fight with Silvia, then I read that he had some sort of injury that prevented him from going for the take down.  Any truth to this?  He was able to take a few solid hits to the chin proving he can take a punch.  Maybe he can get it together...
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: Earl1972 on December 30, 2006, 10:58:39 AM
arlovski weighted about the same he always does and tito was wearing shoes, chuck wasn't

E
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: Fury on December 30, 2006, 11:02:44 AM
arlovski weighted about the same he always does and tito was wearing shoes, chuck wasn't

E

I thought that Tito pic was photoshopped, his head looks bigger than usual there.
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: Earl1972 on December 30, 2006, 11:12:04 AM
I thought that Tito pic was photoshopped, his head looks bigger than usual there.

yes his head is photoshopped but I watched the live weigh ins chuck was barefoot

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Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: Scimowser on December 30, 2006, 12:31:07 PM
I was surprised that he didn't go for a takedown in the last fight with Silvia, then I read that he had some sort of injury that prevented him from going for the take down.  Any truth to this?  He was able to take a few solid hits to the chin proving he can take a punch.  Maybe he can get it together...

not sure about the injury, could be an excuse but then he could have pulled something in training. He has shown his chin is weak, Ricco, Tim and Pedro have all knocked him cold. No matter how muscular you get, you cant strengthen your ability to take a punch to the chin
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: americanbulldog on December 30, 2006, 01:54:04 PM
Arlovski by TKO, or if it goes to the matt, PDP by sub, or ref stoppage. 
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: Eric15210 on December 30, 2006, 02:49:53 PM
Arlovski should stop the bodybuilding routine and train for fighting

Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: dirtysanchez on December 30, 2006, 04:41:08 PM
I don't really see Cruz having much of a chance...I think the Pitbull is gonna win via KO
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: Kwon on December 30, 2006, 07:40:49 PM
Arlovski did well! :)
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: slacker on December 30, 2006, 07:41:20 PM
whats your opinions on tonights matches  teh first two sucked
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: FlexGuns on December 30, 2006, 08:15:39 PM
this should be a good fight..I think Tito will take it. Chuck is 37 years old. They also showed this new guy, Rampage I think, he looked mean. I bet he would destroy Tito.
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: torquemada on December 30, 2006, 08:40:26 PM
Rampage isn't new to MMA; he holds a big win over Liddell.  WTF w/ Forrest?
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: FlexGuns on December 30, 2006, 08:42:56 PM
Where does Rampage fight? When and where did he beat Liddell? Thanks,,,Yeah Forest ,,guy got knocked the f**k out.
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: K-1 on December 30, 2006, 09:23:11 PM
Where does Rampage fight? When and where did he beat Liddell?

It was either 2003 or 2004 they fought in Japan when Rampage fought with Pride FC. Wore his a$$ out. lol. Bad day for chuck. Right now he is fighting for WFA under a new contract, but I heard rumors of him coming to the UFC.
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: torquemada on December 30, 2006, 09:47:58 PM
UFC bought out WFA; they also got Heath Herring, a good heavyweight debuting at the next UFN.
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: DNewbie on December 30, 2006, 09:49:50 PM
whats your opinions on tonights matches  teh first two sucked

What the hell do you expect?? I frickin hate it when people say that. I thought tonights UFC card was damn good!!!!
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: SinCitysmallGUY on December 30, 2006, 11:34:20 PM
First off i am a huge Anrde fan i beloieve he is a way better fighter then the Rednck Tim... But i cant wait for CroCop but that aside... Does anyone else get pissed at the UFC refs.... Theres no way that the punch Andre landed that gave him the oppourtunity to win the fight wouldve landed. The ref fucked up that fight and what the fuck was up with the ref calling the fight... Complete bullshit...I couldve cared less who won that fight..... but i think that they called it premature.... Fucking UFC damnit... and i was ready to say this was the best UFC PPV in a while.... Tito was humble in his loss though...... Differant Tito then what im used to... good fight by both fighters... for all fighters on that note...
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: SinCitysmallGUY on December 30, 2006, 11:40:36 PM
What the hell do you expect?? I frickin hate it when people say that. I thought tonights UFC card was damn good!!!!

The card was one of the best in a while.. i was glad to see gardine knock out Forrset lay the TUF newbies to bed your boy lost... Dont get me wrong i loke Forrest but i saw gardine demolishing him.... yeah yeah say im talking shit..whatever... But the UFC refs piss me off the tio chuck fight got called way to quick...... and the Andre arloski(sp.) that was pure bullshit... that punch wouldnt have landed without the ref stoppage.. i  am a Andre fan that guy is great, but fuck that bullshit... the ref fucked up that fight.....
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: danielson on December 31, 2006, 12:01:40 AM
What the hell do you expect?? I frickin hate it when people say that. I thought tonights UFC card was damn good!!!!

Good card. No big shocks. Jardine beating that pussy Forrest was cool, made me 50 bucks, but I lost it back on the Main event. Next card looks like shit. Serra-GSP and Lutter-Silva? Give me a fucking break. I don't even recall if they announced who Rampage and Crocrop were fighting. maybe they did and I missed it? I hope not some dudes from TUF just to give it some more hype. I guess we'll see.
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 31, 2006, 12:22:43 AM
The GSP/Serra fight is the NHB equivalent of Apollo Creed vs. Rocky Balboa, but this ain't the movies.
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: americanbulldog on December 31, 2006, 12:55:44 AM
Great card (for the UFC). 
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: Fury on December 31, 2006, 01:27:16 AM
Definetely a very good win for Chuck. Definetely proved me wrong tonight. Was a good card and some good fights.
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: DNewbie on December 31, 2006, 06:29:57 AM
Good card. No big shocks. Jardine beating that pussy Forrest was cool, made me 50 bucks, but I lost it back on the Main event. Next card looks like shit. Serra-GSP and Lutter-Silva? Give me a fucking break. I don't even recall if they announced who Rampage and Crocrop were fighting. maybe they did and I missed it? I hope not some dudes from TUF just to give it some more hype. I guess we'll see.

Dude, you must have been drunk as hell. They only talked about Rampage and Cro Cop fighting on the next card like 12 times.

Rampage vs Eastman

Cro Cop vs Eddie Sanchez

Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: gtbro1 on December 31, 2006, 07:50:21 AM
  So Tito lost? I didn't see it.
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: Logan32 on December 31, 2006, 09:07:26 AM
Mirko in the UFC mean in 2007 we will see a new UFC Heavy weight champ.... Can't wait till Rampage and Chuck fight. It is going to be real good. Rampage is the only loss he hasn't avenged. I like Chuck but Rampage might have his number. Great fight ands will not be surprised if eiter fighter wins
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: torquemada on December 31, 2006, 09:23:11 AM
Can't wait till Rampage and Chuck fight. It is going to be real good. Rampage is the only loss he hasn't avenged.

Chuck's improved a lot since that loss, and some people say Rampage has lost some of his edge after mult beatings from Silva.
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: Scimowser on December 31, 2006, 09:34:55 AM
Rampage isnt anything like the fighter he was when he beat Chuck down, and Chuck has improved IN THE OCTAGON considerably eveyr time he has fought. Get Rampage in the octagon and i think Chuck would beat him without question if he brought the right strategy. Lets not forget the Linland fight, where IMO Linland should have drew the fight atleast.
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: MindSpin on December 31, 2006, 09:42:35 AM
I agree, the ref fucked up the Arlovski fight, but I'm glad to see him get back on track.  Of course, with cropcop now in the division it's a mute point.  I can't wait to see him completely dismantle the giant redneck.

Tito was very disappointing.  I don't think he really ever thought he could win this thing.  At least we now get to see the liddell/rampage rematch.

WTF happened to Girffin!?  He got seriously fooked up.  Didn't see that one coming.

Leben getting chocked out was great.

Overall decent PPV, but not good enough to take up space on my DVR...
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: danielson on December 31, 2006, 10:01:58 AM
Dude, you must have been drunk as hell. They only talked about Rampage and Cro Cop fighting on the next card like 12 times.

Rampage vs Eastman

Cro Cop vs Eddie Sanchez



No, not that drunk just a lot of people there and we were playing cards. I saw the screen where it said they were fighting, but must have missed where it said WHO they were fighting. The screens I saw made it look like they were fighting each other, but I knew that couldn't be true.
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: Eric15210 on December 31, 2006, 10:39:15 AM
I think Chuck was enjoying punishing Tito for 3 rounds  ;D

I'm glad Leben lost again last night

Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: torquemada on December 31, 2006, 11:05:50 AM


Overall decent PPV, but not good enough to take up space on my DVR...

Erased it 10 min before reading this... ;D
Title: Re: UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz (Spoiler)
Post by: gtbro1 on December 31, 2006, 12:14:51 PM
 I would like to see Adonis in that cage...talk about a money making pay per view.EVERYONE on getbig would buy it just to see him bleed. :D