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Girl killed by pit bull terrier
A five-year-old girl has been killed and her grandmother seriously hurt by a pit bull terrier at the family home on Merseyside.
Ellie Lawrenson was mauled to death and Jackie Simpson, 46, suffered serious injuries in the attack in St Helens.
Ms Simpson, who is recovering in Whiston Hospital, managed to lock the dog in a run outside the home in Knowles House Avenue, Eccleston.
The pit bull terrier was destroyed by police following the attack on Monday.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/6222319.stm
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Personally I hope the dog was tortured within an inch of its life before being killed.
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Pitbulls should be eradicated as a breed and made illegal. They are savage beasts who's only purpose is to kill and mame.
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Pitbulls should be eradicated as a breed and made illegal. They are savage beasts who's only purpose is to kill and mame.
I agree to some extent.
The simple fact of the matter is that this breed attracts no-hoper's, losers, low life's, wannabe gangster types, which in turn bring out exactly what there were originally bred for.
Anyone with modern sensibilities cannot refute this. Bad boys, wannabe gangsters don't keep golden retrievers.
People should accept the sacrifice of banning this breed IMO. They should accept that the value of the lives saved by banning this breed is greater than keeping the breed legal.
Of-course many dog lovers will jump in this thread claiming all responsibility lies on the hand of the owner and the breed is infact very nice. I'm not refuting that Pitts are anymore aggressive than over breeds. That is NOT my point. I would love any lover of this breed to refute the FACT* that there's a correlation between the social demographic of the owners of this breed.
*Anyone who starts refuting facts should be sent to the funny farm.
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I hold the same opinion about assault weapons being used outside of the realm of law enforcement or military. There's no practical point to them. They are purely for killing.
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Kill on sight.
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I have been attacked by a couple of dogs and they were not pits. I could go out and say that all German Shepards should be erradicated but I wont because it is not true to say that a certian breed is more prone to being violent it all depends on how they were raised. I will not dispute the fact that pits draw alot of gangsta wanna be types, all I am saying is that if any dog is raised to be like that then that is what they will be no matter if its a poodle or a pit bull. I do think that people should have to register pits or any other "vicious" dog and they shouold be checked up on a little more.
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We allow people to carry guns and some owners are about as responsible as children. We let rapisits, murderers, pedophiles and other unsavory characters out of jail well before their full sentences are carried out, if they get prison time at all. BUT we decide that banning and destroying any dog breed that even looks like its bred for fighting is a great idea?
Im all for getting rid of an individual dangerous dog that has proven itself to be a threat but when are we going to extend the same philosphy to human scumbags?
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Oh, and kill all the wannabe gangsters on sight, too.
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Oh, and kill all the wannabe gangsters on sight, too.
ok uncle tom ::)
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I don't really understand the appeal of keeping vicious breeds like pitbulls.. I can see that body88 is a nice dude who loves his dog and doesn't keep it to boost his ego, or to look tough. But this can't be said about the majority of pitbull owners who are a bunch of dumbass wannabe gangsters. They have no reason to keep the animal other then to look tough and gangster. ::)
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I don't really understand the appeal of keeping vicious breeds like pitbulls.. I can see that body88 is a nice dude who loves his dog and doesn't keep it to boost his ego, or to look tough. But this can't be said about the majority of pitbull owners who are a bunch of dumbass wannabe gangsters. They have no reason to keep the animal other then to look tough and gangster. ::)
Exactly... pretty depressing.
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I don't really understand the appeal of keeping vicious breeds like pitbulls.. I can see that body88 is a nice dude who loves his dog and doesn't keep it to boost his ego, or to look tough. But this can't be said about the majority of pitbull owners who are a bunch of dumbass wannabe gangsters. They have no reason to keep the animal other then to look tough and gangster. ::)
yea that is pretty sad. You always see that a wannabe gangsta' with a pit bull like that makes them look tough. what an idiot
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I don't really understand the appeal of keeping vicious breeds like pitbulls.. I can see that body88 is a nice dude who loves his dog and doesn't keep it to boost his ego, or to look tough. But this can't be said about the majority of pitbull owners who are a bunch of dumbass wannabe gangsters. They have no reason to keep the animal other then to look tough and gangster. ::)
What an exagerated comment. There are hundreds of thousands of people that own this type of dog in America alone. Compare that to the small amount of horror stories you hear about. The scale tips in favor of the dog and owner.
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What an exagerated comment. There are hundreds of thousands of people that own this type of dog in America alone. Compare that to the small amount of horror stories you hear about. The scale tips in favor of the dog and owner.
How so? Millions of people own golden retrievers and other dogs and you never horror stories about them.
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Yeah, you dumbass.
Suffice it to say, there are *far* more owners of sensible breeds than there are of these 'thug dogs', yet I've never heard a single case where a Golden Retriever or Chocolate Lab mauled a kid to death.
On this issue, you're an idiot, Bindare.
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There are lab and golden retriever attacks on people... they may just be less publicized. That woman who had the face transplant last year... the dog that chewed her face off was a chocolate lab.
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There are lab and golden retriever attacks on people... they may just be less publicized. That woman who had the face transplant last year... the dog that chewed her face off was a chocolate lab.
The circumstances under which the French women had her face mauled are very different from Pitt attacks. Do your research into the background about her case.
And of course you can find exceptions to the rule, BUT... the ratio at which Pitts viciously attack, kill etc must be higher than a lab.
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Well, not that I'm defending anything. Just saying other breeds attack too... especially when provoked by kids, etc. I was attacked by a pit bull, sort of, a few years ago, so totally not defending anything. His teeth went right through a sheepskin jacket and ski sweater and drew blood. It knocked me right over the hood of a car. I think it was because I had a big red gym bag hanging off me... and the retard (literally, it was the owner's mentally challenged cousin) walking the dog had it on an extra long lead. Luckily I had dogs so knew enough to stay calm and managed to get it off me. If I had been a kid or an old person, it probably would have got me. That's how strong the little bugger was. Wasn't put down either...
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I've just looked at some statistics online.
You should google for pit bull statistics and deaths by dogs generally.
You will find pit bulls are WAY over represented. Especially because the statistics I looked at didn't take into account the ratios of the breeds, just the number of attacks.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/6222319.stm
It seems the owner had previously been warned about the dog's behaviour. Pity he couldn't heed that warning.
There needs to be a change in the law for dangerous breed dogs. If you wanna own one then great, go for it. When it attacks someone then you will be charged with attempted murder or murder if your dog kills a person. Maybe that will deter the moron element that's attracted to these dogs!!
(http://i18.tinypic.com/43njbxw.jpg)
The little girl that was killed
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I agree to some extent.
The simple fact of the matter is that this breed attracts no-hoper's, losers, low life's, wannabe gangster types, which in turn bring out exactly what there were originally bred for.
Anyone with modern sensibilities cannot refute this. Bad boys, wannabe gangsters don't keep golden retrievers.
People should accept the sacrifice of banning this breed IMO. They should accept that the value of the lives saved by banning this breed is greater than keeping the breed legal.
Of-course many dog lovers will jump in this thread claiming all responsibility lies on the hand of the owner and the breed is infact very nice. I'm not refuting that Pitts are anymore aggressive than over breeds. That is NOT my point. I would love any lover of this breed to refute the FACT* that there's a correlation between the social demographic of the owners of this breed.
*Anyone who starts refuting facts should be sent to the funny farm.
That's not a solution. These losers will move onto other dogs that 'look' aggressive and complement their 'hardcore' outlook on life. i.e. Rottweilers.
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That's not a solution. These losers will move onto other dogs that 'look' aggressive and complement their 'hardcore' outlook on life. i.e. Rottweilers.
Or this one, a barkless African breed of dog, that is responsible for more fatal attacks (percentage/ratio) in the US today than pit bulls are. Fortunately not many people own them, yet.
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A 15 year old kid in Tennessee was attacked by 12-15 Pits last week. They chased him down a road and were chewing him up. I saw video of it and he gashes all over his arms, legs, body, neck and stitches all over. Kid is lucky to be alive.
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A 15 year old kid in Tennessee was attacked by 12-15 Pits last week. They chased him down a road and were chewing him up. I saw video of it and he gashes all over his arms, legs, body, neck and stitches all over. Kid is lucky to be alive.
I know it's not funny but I got a mental image of this poor lads face running from a load of dogs bricking it.. I'm sorry it made me chuckle.
Seriously though, why the fuck were 15 pitbulls allowed to be roaming the streets? which begs the question why would somebody want to own 15 of these dogs/ you'd imagine that owning one wouyld keep you busy enough
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I don't really understand the appeal of keeping vicious breeds like pitbulls.. I can see that body88 is a nice dude who loves his dog and doesn't keep it to boost his ego, or to look tough. But this can't be said about the majority of pitbull owners who are a bunch of dumbass wannabe gangsters. They have no reason to keep the animal other then to look tough and gangster. ::)
Pit Bulls are not a vicious breed though. They can be abused and turned vicious, but they are not by nature a human aggressive dog, they were bred to not have ANY human aggression. I understand that many dumbasses abuse the abilities of this dog, but they are one of the most popular breeds in america, if not THE most popular breed. This is a situation that could have been avoided, but the OWNER did not respond to a situation as he should have. he was warned about the dogs behavior and did nothing. The owner should have taken action, but didn't.
I know i can come up with statistics about pit bulls being safe till we're both blue in the face and you won't change your mind, you'll just remain ignorant and close minded.
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Pit Bulls are not a vicious breed though. They can be abused and turned vicious, but they are not by nature a human aggressive dog, they were bred to not have ANY human aggression. I understand that many dumbasses abuse the abilities of this dog, but they are one of the most popular breeds in america, if not THE most popular breed. This is a situation that could have been avoided, but the OWNER did not respond to a situation as he should have. he was warned about the dogs behavior and did nothing. The owner should have taken action, but didn't.
I know i can come up with statistics about pit bulls being safe till we're both blue in the face and you won't change your mind, you'll just remain ignorant and close minded.
you're right, but you'll never convince these guys. it would be like trying to convince 240 that..ohhh nevermind.
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This thread is gona make body88's blood preasure sky rocket.
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hahaha yes.
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I know i can come up with statistics about pit bulls being safe till we're both blue in the face and you won't change your mind, you'll just remain ignorant and close minded.
Exactly. Theres no point in going any further with this topic when you ignorant dickheads like Tre stereotyping owners of certain breeds. You'll only hear about the small minority of shits that own these dogs cause it sells, but you'll never hear of the millions of responsible owners out there.
These owners must have been gangsters too. ::)
Choclate lab attack.
http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/OtherBreedBites/2006/December/Labrador2ndattack2006.pdf
Lab mix attack.
http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/OtherBreedBites/2006/December/possiblelabmix1206.pdf
Lab attack.
http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/OtherBreedBites/2006/June/Fatalattackd4dogs0606.pdf
More lab mauling attacks.
http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/OtherBreedBites/2006/May06/2006%20_%20Authorities%20say%204-year-old%20recovering%20...pdf
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I agree to some extent.
The simple fact of the matter is that this breed attracts no-hoper's, losers, low life's, wannabe gangster types, which in turn bring out exactly what there were originally bred for.
Anyone with modern sensibilities cannot refute this. Bad boys, wannabe gangsters don't keep golden retrievers.
People should accept the sacrifice of banning this breed IMO. They should accept that the value of the lives saved by banning this breed is greater than keeping the breed legal.
Of-course many dog lovers will jump in this thread claiming all responsibility lies on the hand of the owner and the breed is infact very nice. I'm not refuting that Pitts are anymore aggressive than over breeds. That is NOT my point. I would love any lover of this breed to refute the FACT* that there's a correlation between the social demographic of the owners of this breed.
*Anyone who starts refuting facts should be sent to the funny farm.
Brilliant post.
-Hedge
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Its a horrible thing that happened totally. But why do parents trust other people with the care and safety of their children? Big dogs and little kids usually doesn't mix. There is so much movement going on from the kid(s) it excites the dog.
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Actually something happened with a dog when I was younger. When I was in the early years of elementary school, my parents had us stay with a babysitter every day for a few hours after school. They had a golden retriever that was one of the nicest dogs I've ever met. Well I was wrestling with the babysitter's kid on her couch one day and I pushed him on top of the sleeping dog at our feet by mistake. The dog jumped up completely startled out of his sleep and bit the kid in the face in a instinctive, reactionary bite to having an 70 pound kid falling on him. Ended up needing like 40-50 stitches and 3 surgeries for his face from the gashes. Could've easily had his eyes or throat ripped out. My parents said they wouldn't have sued if it was me that fell on the dog but who knows. She stopped baby sitting after that because of the accident. Realized it was too dangerous having a dog with children around.
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NS makes a perfect rational argument.
If we gain more from a ban of this breed than we lose, then it should be banned.
The same argument could be made for all dog breeds.
And it seems like the gains in lives and avoided injuries are unquestionable, no?
-Hedge
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NS makes a perfect rational argument.
If we gain more from a ban of this breed than we lose, then it should be banned.
The same argument could be made for all dog breeds.
And it seems like the gains in lives and avoided injuries are unquestionable, no?
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Well, by that rationale, ban: cars, alcohol, cigs, fast food etc etc etc...
I agree that the breed attracts a bad crowd, but that is not their doing. I would make a strong case that if a grand pit bull existed, he/she would say " i would request that all blacks, mexicans and wiggers stop buying and or breeding me, you people have done nothing but harm to my reputation. Before you people got a hold of me, i had already been the official animal mascot of the us marine corp (used in extensive ad campaigns/propoganda for the USMC), the most popular breed in america, helen keller' guide dog, teddy roosevelt's favorite dog, jack johnsons favorite dog, the k9 star of the little rascals, the rca victor dog, the #1 dog used by US customs and an all around beloved dog. I was bred to be loyal, loving, playful and hate only dogs, never people. But then you people started messing with my breed standard, and breeding the aggressive one's, breeding the one's with big heads, breeding for the wrong reasons. Then you put me in a rap video, then you started putting tatoos of me on your arms, and making me into an icon of toughness and violence when thats not what we are at all. We're family dogs, horrible gaurd dogs and tired of dumbasses making us look bad."
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Well, by that rationale, ban: cars, alcohol, cigs, fast food etc etc etc...
I agree that the breed attracts a bad crowd, but that is not their doing. I would make a strong case that if a grand pit bull existed, he/she would say " i would request that all blacks, mexicans and wiggers stop buying and or breeding me, you people have done nothing but harm to my reputation. Before you people got a hold of me, i had already been the official animal mascot of the us marine corp (used in extensive ad campaigns/propoganda for the USMC), the most popular breed in america, helen keller' guide dog, teddy roosevelt's favorite dog, jack johnsons favorite dog, the k9 star of the little rascals, the rca victor dog, the #1 dog used by US customs and an all around beloved dog. I was bred to be loyal, loving, playful and hate only dogs, never people. But then you people started messing with my breed standard, and breeding the aggressive one's, breeding the one's with big heads, breeding for the wrong reasons. Then you put me in a rap video, then you started putting tatoos of me on your arms, and making me into an icon of toughness and violence when thats not what we are at all. We're family dogs, horrible gaurd dogs and tired of dumbasses making us look bad."
No.
Ban cigarettes. Not cars or fast food.
Perhaps alcohol should be banned, it helps people socialise, so it's not a clear cut case. But the positives of having cars and fast food clearly outweighs the negatives.
Not so with cigarettes.
And not so with pitbulls.
Especially since there are alternatives. There are many breeds that have a much more friendly behavior. Get yourself a Golden Retriever or a Collie. Those dogs are breeded to not be aggressive.
-Hedge
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There are lab and golden retriever attacks on people... they may just be less publicized. That woman who had the face transplant last year... the dog that chewed her face off was a chocolate lab.
She shouldn't have smeared food on her face.
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She shouldn't have smeared food on her face.
I think the real story behind it is that she had collpased, and the dog was trying to revive her.
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I have nothing against pitbulls or any dog in particular. I don't have kids to, but if a dog would attack a kid of mine, the owner will get attacked by me. And yes, I will do time for that. No discussion.
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I have nothing against pitbulls or any dog in particular. I don't have kids to, but if a dog would attack a kid of mine, the owner will get attacked by me. And yes, I will do time for that. No discussion.
Basically yes, same here.
I'd also want to attack the fucking dog too!
Then fuck his wife! >:(
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Doberman's have been known to turn on their owners. :-\ But I believe it's how a dog is brought up and treated. Thugs will train their dogs to attack anything that seems like a threat. A little child running around will appear to be a threat to a dog with this instilled in it. The dog ultimately will have to be destroyed, which is truly sad as it didn't deserve such a life, and the owner should be prosecuted as 2nd or 3rd degree murder...no question.
Here is the most tame pit bull I have ever seen. Her name is Dallas and I was completely intimidated by her size and appearance, but then won over by her friendliness and gentleness. So much so that she is my dog Rocky's best friend...
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heard a single case where a Golden Retriever or Chocolate Lab mauled a kid to death.
In Elementary school I was attack by a chocolate lab during PE class. It grabbed my wrist and shook my arm. It scared the hell out of me. I was told don't run, but I did and the dog zeroed in on me. Guess what my elementary's school's mascot was. A Lab Retreiver. In Annapolis everybody has labs, being that it is a port. My parents had a lab when I was a baby, but the dog was aggressive towards me because it was jealous, and they were scared that it might harm me. Good thing they got rid of it, instead of me.
I have been bitten by standard poodles and German Shepards, I have been in the presence of Rotts and Pits, and never been attacked, not to say it won't happen, but I haven't had that experience. It has been said that, and I don't have the proof, but Cocker Spaniels, bite the most, wich I can beleive, because they are schitzo dogs,
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Say what you like about pitbulls, but they are doing an excellent job in keeping the council-estate population in check.
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Doberman's have been known to turn on their owners. :-\ But I believe it's how a dog is brought up and treated. Thugs will train their dogs to attack anything that seems like a threat. A little child running around will appear to be a threat to a dog with this instilled in it. The dog ultimately will have to be destroyed, which is truly sad as it didn't deserve such a life, and the owner should be prosecuted as 2nd or 3rd degree murder...no question.
Here is the most tame pit bull I have ever seen. Her name is Dallas and I was completely intimidated by her size and appearance, but then won over by her friendliness and gentleness. So much so that she is my dog Rocky's best friend...
good looking dog. Looks ferocious.
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good looking dog. Looks ferocious.
She is the best dog. :)
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She is the best dog. :)
I know they CAN be killers if they are made that way..but you would never know it just to look at their face.They look harmless.
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Let's murder all pets. The whole principle of keeping animals is dated. We dont' live in mines so we dont' need birds, we have exterminators so we don't need cats and we really don't need dogs since your wife can lick your balls after marriage.
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In Elementary school I was attack by a chocolate lab during PE class. It grabbed my wrist and shook my arm. It scared the hell out of me. I was told don't run, but I did and the dog zeroed in on me. Guess what my elementary's school's mascot was. A Lab Retreiver. In Annapolis everybody has labs, being that it is a port. My parents had a lab when I was a baby, but the dog was aggressive towards me because it was jealous, and they were scared that it might harm me. Good thing they got rid of it, instead of me.
I have been bitten by standard poodles and German Shepards, I have been in the presence of Rotts and Pits, and never been attacked, not to say it won't happen, but I haven't had that experience. It has been said that, and I don't have the proof, but Cocker Spaniels, bite the most, wich I can beleive, because they are schitzo dogs,
Your affairs in the matter are an exception to the rule; which I pointed out from the start.
I guess the authorities are STUPID for ignoring the exceptions to the rule ::)
Lets not forget the demographic of Getbig itself: wannabe muscle heads, actual muscle heads, gym rats and the unemployed scroungers (Diesel, Hedgehog ;D). Getbig is full of the exact type of people who keep Pitts. I will take your opinions with a grain or two of salt because they are undoubtedly skewed beyond common sensibilities.
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Well, by that rationale, ban: cars, alcohol, cigs, fast food etc etc etc...
Cigarettes and fast food don't randomly attack people.
An agressive breed should not be allowed if its a threat to someone. It's pretty arrogant and selfish to think you have the right to keep something that could potentially hurt someone else. I don't give a rat's ass if someone thinks this breed is cute, the bottom line is that if it's a threat to me or anyone else then it should be banned.
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Your affairs in the matter are an exception to the rule; which I pointed out from the start.
I guess the authorities are STUPID for ignoring the exceptions to the rule ::)
Lets not forget the demographic of Getbig itself: wannabe muscle heads, actual muscle heads, gym rats and the unemployed scroungers (Diesel, Hedgehog ;D). Getbig is full of the exact type of people who keep Pitts. I will take your opinions with a grain or two of salt because they are undoubtedly skewed beyond common sensibilities.
The mere fact that you can't get your brain around the fact that there are MILLIONS of pitbull owners and a HANDFULL of attacks shows me how skewed your closed minded brain really is.
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Cigarettes and fast food don't randomly attack people.
An agressive breed should not be allowed if its a threat to someone. It's pretty arrogant and selfish to think you have the right to keep something that could potentially hurt someone else. I don't give a rat's ass if someone thinks this breed is cute, the bottom line is that if it's a threat to me or anyone else then it should be banned.
You must jump and scream at your own shadow.
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The mere fact that you can't get your brain around the fact that there are MILLIONS of pitbull owners and a HANDFULL of attacks shows me how skewed your closed minded brain really is.
And you can't comprehend the point that Nordic is trying to make here. The fact is that those millions are mostly wanna-be gangster types and complete idiots. I dunno about you, but most of the pit owners I've seen aren't Caesar Milan, but stupidasses wearing du-rags. And why should there be a handful of attacks? How about no attacks?
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How about no attacks?
Are you for real? ::)
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Are you for real? ::)
You act as though dogs are people.. This is one of the few flaws present in the western way of thinking! I'm wating for the time I take my vacation to this specific place and I'm gonna have a lot of fun killings stray dogs..
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The mere fact that you can't get your brain around the fact that there are MILLIONS of pitbull owners and a HANDFULL of attacks shows me how skewed your closed minded brain really is.
Read my actual comments brother. You're thinking with your heart only.
A major problem I see is that the owners very rarely get punished for the crime. For example, authorities will problem let the man responsible for this story get off FREE (except for guilt) due to the highly probable ruling that it was just "another" rogue Pitt attacking incident for which the owner had no power over the situation.
I'm pretty sure the owners of the dog will come out and say "the dog was the nicest dog you could of known. we don't know what made it do this!". We've heard the same story a thousand times before :-\.
The possability of that gets right on my nerves. Basically no-one will be properly punished for this disgusting event, just for the death of a little girl will not be served - everyone loses in cases like this.
For specific breeds of dogs there should be a license and a 100% responsibility clause for the owner. E.g. if the dog attacks and kills you get done for manslaughter. And maybe even this: if the owner has a history of training the dog aggressively (which does happen) then charge them with murder.
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And you can't comprehend the point that Nordic is trying to make here. The fact is that those millions are mostly wanna-be gangster types and complete idiots. I dunno about you, but most of the pit owners I've seen aren't Caesar Milan, but stupidasses wearing du-rags. And why should there be a handful of attacks? How about no attacks?
Ok, so they ban pit-bulls forever, then what? Another dog is then beaten and made to become vicious and then attacks people...let's ban that breed and so on and so on.
Ya know Chihuahua's as small as they are think they are bigger than pits and will sometimes bite just for the sake of showing you who's boss. Should they be banned? Should all dogs regardless of their breed be banned? No, those who turn them into killers should be held liable for their behavior and sentenced as I said earlier as 2nd and 3rd degree murder. Maybe then those who train these dogs to do such things will think differently about how they treat their animals.
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1) Ok, so they ban pit-bulls forever, then what? Another dog is then beaten and made to become vicious and then attacks people...let's ban that breed and so on and so on.
2) Ya know Chihuahua's as small as they are think they are bigger than pits and will sometimes bite just for the sake of showing you who's boss. Should they be banned? Should all dogs regardless of their breed be banned? No, those who turn them into killers should be held liable for their behavior and sentenced as I said earlier as 2nd and 3rd degree murder. Maybe then those who train these dogs to do such things will think differently about how they treat their animals.
1) If it makes sense to do so, then yes, ban the next breed. The common sense in relation to this topic is lost with you dog lovers.
2) If Chihuahua's "sometimes bite just for the sake of showing you who's boss" to kids or anyone else then it is totally unacceptable. If I had a kid and your Chihuahua bit it "just for the sake of showing who's boss" I would drop kick it for 4.
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1) If it makes sense to do so, then yes, ban the next breed. The common sense in relation to this topic is lost with you dog lovers.
2) If Chihuahua's "sometimes bite just for the sake of showing you who's boss" to kids or anyone else then it is totally unacceptable. If I had a kid and your Chihuahua bit it "just for the sake of showing who's boss" I would drop kick it for 4.
When are you going to realize that it is a fucking animal and still has animal instincts to protect itself and let others know that it can??? No, you respect the animal and teach it correctly.
Would I want an animal destroyed if it harmed someone? Absolutely! But I don't and wouldn't hold the "breed" responsible for the "owners" improper treatment and teaching of the dog. >:(
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Read my actual comments brother. You're thinking with your heart only.
A major problem I see is that the owners very rarely get punished for the crime. For example, authorities will problem let the man responsible for this story get off FREE (except for guilt) due to the highly probable ruling that it was just "another" rogue Pitt attacking incident for which the owner had no power over the situation.
I'm pretty sure the owners of the dog will come out and say "the dog was the nicest dog you could of known. we don't know what made it do this!". We've heard the same story a thousand times before :-\.
The possability of that gets right on my nerves. Basically no-one will be properly punished for this disgusting event, just for the death of a little girl will not be served - everyone loses in cases like this.
For specific breeds of dogs there should be a license and a 100% responsibility clause for the owner. E.g. if the dog attacks and kills you get done for manslaughter. And maybe even this: if the owner has a history of training the dog aggressively (which does happen) then charge them with murder.
Geography has alot to do with a persons view of this dog, I guess. Obviously Camel Jockey lives in the ghetto cause all he sees are "stupidasses wearing du-rags" owning pits and all you hear about are owners getting away with murder. I must live on another planet all together cause unresponible owners do get punished where I'm from and the majority of owners are responsible with very sociable dogs.
I wish people in America would be as tough on banning guns as they were in trying to ban this breed. I just don't get why a dog is getting a worse rap then guns.
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I wish people in America would be as tough on banning guns as they were in trying to ban this breed. I just don't get why a dog is getting a worse rap then guns.
Because our hearts go out to the family of the little girl. Kids are usually the victims of such attacks. :(
You know if/when you hear of a child getting caught in the crossfire of a gun battle between gangs...all hell breaks loose about getting the guns and gangs off the street. But again...you only hear it when a child loses a life to such.
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When are you going to realize that it is a fucking animal and still has animal instincts to protect itself and let others know that it can??? No, you respect the animal and teach it correctly.
Would I want an animal destroyed if it harmed someone? Absolutely! But I don't and wouldn't hold the "breed" responsible for the "owners" improper treatment and teaching of the dog. >:(
You just don't GET it. Maybe we should retire the whole idea of having pets then? Why should Joe average be responsible for YOUR dogs "animal instincts"? Western society has reached the point where they are no longer needed for most task forces except the military and police. New forms of media, ie. the internet also reduce the need of dogs as companions.
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You just don't GET it. Maybe we should retire the whole idea of having pets then? Why should Joe average be responsible for YOUR dogs "animal instincts"? Western society has reached the point where they are no longer needed for most task forces except the military and police. New forms of media, ie. the internet also reduce the need of dogs as companions.
Sooooooo, do you think that Joe Blow's kid down the street (who has been beaten all his life and taunted him into thinking it's ok to shoot someone if they piss you off by his dad...Joe Blow) finds a gun and shoots someone cuz they taunted him is the only one responsible for the incident. Joe Blow should not be held liable as well?
Dogs of all breeds keep our elderly happy and lively. The keep "newly out on their own" feeling safe and secure along with keeping them company. They help the blind see. They do a lot for their companions. Don't be so naive about dogs and quick to want to extinguish a species because of incidents of some.
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Sooooooo, do you think that Joe Blow's kid down the street (who has been beaten all his life and taunted him into thinking it's ok to shoot someone if they piss you off by his dad...Joe Blow) finds a gun and shoots someone cuz they taunted him is the only one responsible for the incident. Joe Blow should not be held liable as well?
Well, it's a totally different scenario and you're going off on one like a typical women! :D
The thing is, a dog is an ANIMAL. I understand what you're trying to project, however humans are not animals and animals are not humans. You're thinking with your heart and not your head again. You're comparing humans to animals.
I'd like to believe you don't think animals and humans are equals...
Dogs of all breeds keep our elderly happy and lively. The keep "newly out on their own" feeling safe and secure along with keeping them company. They help the blind see. They do a lot for their companions. Don't be so naive about dogs and quick to want to extinguish a species because of incidents of some.
lol, I never said extinguish a full species, that would be ignorant, arrogant and flat out wrong of anyone to think.
I agree that dogs do add value to life thru companionship and the other areas you've mentioned. I am however not motivated to speak further on this particular topic of companionship and pets because I'm not really one for pets at all and I've never been a dog lover so I'm obliged not to share my opinion on such matters because I have zero experience.
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Well, it's a totally different scenario and you're going off on one like a typical women! :D
The thing is, a dog is an ANIMAL. I understand what you're trying to project, however humans are not animals and animals are not humans. You're thinking with your heart and not your head again. You're comparing humans to animals.
I'd like to believe you don't think animals and humans are equals...
lol, I never said extinguish a full species, that would be ignorant, arrogant and flat out wrong of anyone to think.
I agree that dogs do add value to life thru companionship and the other areas you've mentioned. I am however not motivated to speak further on this particular topic of companionship and pets because I'm not really one for pets at all and I've never been a dog lover so I'm obliged not to share my opinion on such matters because I have zero experience.
Well see, you said a mouth full. I'll start with your first quote...so because animals are animals and humans are humans you would not hold the father "Joe Blow" accountable? Interesting.
Secondly, you said we should retire the having pets idea. So what do we do with all the dogs?
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Well see, you said a mouth full. I'll start with your first quote...so because animals are animals and humans are humans you would not hold the father "Joe Blow" accountable? Interesting.
Hmm, no I never said anything about "Joe Blow"'s accountability.
Secondly, you said we should retire the having pets idea. So what do we do with all the dogs?
No, I said "maybe we should ...". I just posed the question.
Is it me or do I sense a lot of sexual tension in your posts? :D
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I dont like dogs so when i lived in a neighbourhood with lots of dog i use to Carry i knife in me right pocket and if any of them dogs attacked me i would let it bite me in my left arm and then i would stab him in the neck with my other arm
Luckily i never got attacked
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I dont like dogs so when i lived in a neighbourhood with lots of dog i use to Carry i knife in me right pocket and if any of them dogs attacked me i would let it bite me in my left arm and then i would stab him in the neck with my other arm
Luckily i never got attacked
hahaha ROFLMAO!!!!
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Well this thread has been up since yesterday and Body has yet to respond....If anyone knows him in real life they should check on him to make sure he didn't have a heart attack,stroke,or possibly a brain aneurysm when he read the ignorant comments blaming the breed of dog for this tragic event.
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Ya know Chihuahua's as small as they are think they are bigger than pits and will sometimes bite just for the sake of showing you who's boss. Should they be banned?
Just bitch-slap those mouthy little rodents.
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Well this thread has been up since yesterday and Body has yet to respond....If anyone knows him in real life they should check on him to make sure he didn't have a heart attack,stroke,or possibly a brain aneurysm when he read the ignorant comments blaming the breed of dog for this tragic event.
Says who?
No-one has refuted a single thing I've said.
Is it a fact this breed of dog was bred for it's aggressive tendancies and high tolerance of pain? Yes!
Re-read my comments and refute my points. Madam Lane gave up because she was clutching at straws in the end.
And as if Body's opinion isn't biased... He's a dog lover ffs.
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Says who?
No-one has refuted a single thing I've said.
Is it a fact this breed of dog was bred for it's aggressive tendancies and high tolerance of pain? Yes!
Re-read my comments and refute my points. Madam Lane gave up because she was clutching at straws in the end.
And as if Body's opinion isn't biased... He's a dog lover ffs.
The point of my post was that body88 get's extremely upset when the breed is blamed.I know nothing about dogs.I will say that my sister had a pitbull for years and it never attacked anyone.That is the only pit I have ever been around.My parents had a Lahsa Apso (sp) that would bite your face off if you got close enough to him...he only weighed 15 lbs...that was just his personality.I think dogs are like humans in that each dog has it's own personality. Many humans attack other humans unprovoked on a daily basis.Should we stop having children?
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The point of my post was that body88 get's extremely upset when the breed is blamed.I know nothing about dogs.I will say that my sister had a pitbull for years and it never attacked anyone.That is the only pit I have ever been around.My parents had a Lahsa Apso (sp) that would bite your face off if you got close enough to him...he only weighed 15 lbs...that was just his personality.I think dogs are like humans in that each dog has it's own personality. Many humans attack other humans unprovoked on a daily basis.Should we stop having children?
There we go again comparing humans to animals and suggesting legislation should be based on these comparisons :-\
There's just no seperation between animals and humans for you folks is there?
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There we go again comparing humans to animals and suggesting legislation should be based on these comparisons :-\
There's just no seperation between animals and humans for you folks is there?
It depends on whether or not it favors my argument at the time. For example if we are arguing over how humane it is to raise cattle for slaughter,I say "They are just animals..that is what they are for...for us to eat." but in this case I say " Animals are living creatures,just like humans."
I am not for a ban on the breed,but I am in favor of MANDATORY training to anyone who wants to own an aggresive dog. They should be trained the proper way to raise it to be not aggresive and then be held accountable for the actions of the dog.
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Does anyone know what happened exactly? Did the girl grab the dog or what? Surely she did something to set the dog off. :-\
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Get yourself a Golden Retriever or a Collie. Those dogs are breeded to not be aggressive.
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Actually Pit Bulls score higher on the american temperment testing society than goldens (goldens are "mouthy" dogs in the eyes the SPCA workers i know) and collies are so over bred that they have become a "snap" dog along the lines of dalmations. Collie's are responsible for more bites per year than almost all dogs. The only reason we don't hear about it is because lassie was a collie. People don't sue or take it to the press with collie's, they do with pits. My buddy's neighbor had his intestines ripped out and was killed by their collie when he was 6 years old. It wasn't newpaper worthy. Oh well.
And pits that are bred to breed standard are never aggressive dogs. The history of pit breeding states that any dog with human aggression is to be destroyed and never bred, and only the dogs with perfect temperments are to be bred.
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it was the fireworks, the dog went apeshit.
and how is anyone gonna know, both the dog and the child were killed.
I Thought maybe grandmas was a witness...iduno.
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As old as it sounds, it's never been truer. It's the owner, not the dog. We, or most of us are bodybuilders. We are the pit bulls of the human race. We're big chested, like a pit. We have all the characteristics that a pit has compared to other dogs. Should we ban bodybuilding, cause it makes us look so intimidating? You can make a beagle just as bad tempered as any other dog. It's just that beagles are smaller and weaker than a pit and when you train a pit to be aggressive, they have the tools to do damage, like a bodybuilder. It's all the way you were raised, like the pit bull.
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Does anyone know what happened exactly? Did the girl grab the dog or what? Surely she did something to set the dog off. :-\
The girl didn't do shit. She stayed home with Grandma like her parents told her to.
The grandmother then allowed that filthy fucking animal to stay at the house as well. It's possible that she raised the scumbag who owned the dog. The whole loser family is guilty.
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The girl didn't do shit. She stayed home with Grandma like her parents told her to.
The grandmother then allowed that filthy fucking animal to stay at the house as well. It's possible that she raised the scumbag who owned the dog. The whole loser family is guilty.
Yup. I hope this event tortures their minds for eternity >:(
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Yup. I hope this event tortures their minds for eternity >:(
It would definately be hard to live with yourself if you were the uncle. Thanksgiving dinner will never taste the same. Very sad.
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The girl didn't do shit. She stayed home with Grandma like her parents told her to.
The grandmother then allowed that filthy fucking animal to stay at the house as well. It's possible that she raised the scumbag who owned the dog. The whole loser family is guilty.
yep, well said.
Most around here put dogs before people ffs
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Pitbulls should be eradicated as a breed and made illegal. They are savage beasts who's only purpose is to kill and mame.
Wrong...
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Kill on sight.
Hope not.... Your whole race will be dead. How about I make the argument the vast majority of pit owners now are black. Maybe the race ruined a perfectly good breed?
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How so? Millions of people own golden retrievers and other dogs and you never horror stories about them.
Why did this 10 lb Pomeranian kill a six week old infant? I can post more.
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/US/10/09/pomeranian.kills.ap/
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Why did this 10 lb Pomeranian kill a six week old infant? I can post more.
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/US/10/09/pomeranian.kills.ap/
I can dig up thousands of pitbull stories. Why did a group of 15-20 chase a 15 year old kid down who was walking home from school minding his own business? Can't think of the last time I saw a pack of pomeranians do that. ::)
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I agree to some extent.
The simple fact of the matter is that this breed attracts no-hoper's, losers, low life's, wannabe gangster types, which in turn bring out exactly what there were originally bred for.
Anyone with modern sensibilities cannot refute this. Bad boys, wannabe gangsters don't keep golden retrievers.
People should accept the sacrifice of banning this breed IMO. They should accept that the value of the lives saved by banning this breed is greater than keeping the breed legal.
Of-course many dog lovers will jump in this thread claiming all responsibility lies on the hand of the owner and the breed is infact very nice. I'm not refuting that Pitts are anymore aggressive than over breeds. That is NOT my point. I would love any lover of this breed to refute the FACT* that there's a correlation between the social demographic of the owners of this breed.
*Anyone who starts refuting facts should be sent to the funny farm.
Why do most critics think like this? Criminals use guns to kill? Ban the guns. Pitbulls are turned into weapons and trained to gaurd drug houses. Ban he pitbulls. Maybe instead of banning everything there should be tougher laws to punish those who exploit these dogs. You want to take the tools these people use for evil away. Only problem is they keep finding new tools.
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I can dig up thousands of pitbull stories. Why did a group of 15-20 chase a 15 year old kid down who was walking home from school minding his own business? Can't think of the last time I saw a pack of pomeranians do that. ::)
First off, a pack of pitbulls running down the street would mean a bunch of irresponsible owners let there dogs run free or abandoned them. You have never seen a pack of pitbulls running down the street. Neither have I. So it would be about as rare as seeing a pack of 15 Pomeranians running free Second, a pack of any dominant breed of dog would behave that way. It is called a pack mentality. You seem to be the type who spouts off about things you know little about (no offense). You ever see a pack of wolves hunt in a pack? Pack mentality. That is not a pitbull thing. That is a pack of wild dogs thing.
Find me a pitbull attack where the animal in question was raised properly. Socialized, pure bred and not owned by some loser or crack dealer. An attack where the animal was not left alone with the child.
Btw for every pit attack you dig up I can refute it with an attack by another breed :-\ A pitbull attacks a person and it is national news. A golden retriever mauls a little girl to death walking home from school 4 months ago and none of you guys heard about it :( I have hundreds of these stories with the breeds you think are "safe". Bring it.
Oh btw, you hear about this poor woman killed by her lab earlier this year?
http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/OtherBreedBites/2006/December/Labradordec2006.pdf
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I can dig up thousands of pitbull stories. Why did a group of 15-20 chase a 15 year old kid down who was walking home from school minding his own business? Can't think of the last time I saw a pack of pomeranians do that. ::)
I can dig up just as much as you. Here is a few hundred fatal or disfiguring attacks by breeds you would consider harmless. This is a small piece of what I have. I doubt you can some up with more then me. Also most the shit you post will involve drug dealers and neglected/ abused pups. Most these stories involve family animals :(
http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/OtherBreedBites/AllDogsBite.htm
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Nice choice of sources! Not bias at all! :D
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Nice choice of sources! Not bias at all! :D
How are valid news links biased? All those links are 100 percent legit. Are you saying all those various news sources from around the world are biased in favor of pits? Just because they where gathered up by a pro pit website does not make them biased. That is good research, not bias.
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hahahaha, maybe the dogs liked to eat shit? :D
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I've never seen someone get so defensive about a breed of dog.
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Criminals use guns to kill? Ban the guns.
I've mentioned this twice know and you did as well, that's three times and no one in support of banning pits touches the comment. Interesting.
Tre sounds like one pissed off dude, maybe his mom sucked off pitbulls for a living to put some food on the table but then one ripped her neck open cause it didn't like all the teeth she used in the proccess.
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I've never seen someone get so defensive about a breed of dog.
No offense man, but you get pretty defensive when people insult the squad. I get defensive about pits since I have owned a few. Call me weird, but I really liked my two pits. They meant a lot to me. It might annoy you a little when people say things that are 100 percent false about something you like. I do not think all the things you guys say are wrong. Just some of them.
If I come off annoying I apologize. It is usually me against five or six people, so I do not take time edit my posts. They can come off like I am really upset. I am not.
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First off, a pack of pitbulls running down the street would mean a bunch of irresponsible owners let there dogs run free or abandoned them.
Were any of them tried and convicted?
Find me a pitbull attack where the animal in question was raised properly. Socialized, pure bred and not owned by some loser or crack dealer.
Ok, fine - require all the little bastards to wear "I was/wasn't raised properly" signs so that innocent people will know what they're dealing with.
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No offense man, but you get pretty defensive when people insult the squad. I get defensive about pits since I have owned a few. Call me weird, but I really liked my two pits. They meant a lot to me. It might annoy you a little when people say things that are 100 percent false about something you like. I do not think all the things you guys say are wrong. Just some of them.
If I come off annoying I apologize. It is usually me against five or six people, so I do not take time edit my posts. They can come off like I am really upset. I am not.
hahahaha, it doesn't really bother me. I'll be the first to admit I know next-to-nothing about pits except what I hear from the media. I wouldn't mind having one myself and I know that it's the owner that makes the dog, but almost anytime you hear about a dog attack, it usually involves either a pit, or some 100+ lb. beast.
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Were any of them tried and convicted?
Ok, fine - require all the little bastards to wear "I was/wasn't raised properly" signs so that innocent people will know what they're dealing with.
This is your rebuttle?
Next.....
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hahahaha, it doesn't really bother me. I'll be the first to admit I know next-to-nothing about pits except what I hear from the media. I wouldn't mind having one myself and I know that it's the owner that makes the dog, but almost anytime you hear about a dog attack, it usually involves either a pit, or some 100+ lb. beast.
Give one a chance. You might be surpised.
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Pitbulls should be eradicated as a breed and made illegal. They are savage beasts who's only purpose is to kill and mame.
Pits are so eager to please, they will do anything to please their owners. If a Pit is mauling people, it has been trained to do so. Pits are normally animal aggressive, people friendly. We should also outlaw cars, because cars kill more people than Pits do. ???
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Like I said my dads 15 lb Lahsa would bite your face off in a new york minute if you got close enough...I know he was raised properly because I bought him from the kennell, and he was always treated well...he was just a little prick,that's all. :'( God I miss that dog.
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It turns out that the owner of the pit bull was drug-dealer.
What a massive suprise!
http://news.aol.co.uk/killer-dog-owner-was-drug-dealer/article/20070101120409990010 (http://news.aol.co.uk/killer-dog-owner-was-drug-dealer/article/20070101120409990010)
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It turns out that the owner of the pit bull was drug-dealer.
What a massive suprise!
http://news.aol.co.uk/killer-dog-owner-was-drug-dealer/article/20070101120409990010 (http://news.aol.co.uk/killer-dog-owner-was-drug-dealer/article/20070101120409990010)
It turns out you're not answering your PMs you ignorant muslim loving communist! >:(
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It turns out that the owner of the pit bull was drug-dealer.
What a massive suprise!
http://news.aol.co.uk/killer-dog-owner-was-drug-dealer/article/20070101120409990010 (http://news.aol.co.uk/killer-dog-owner-was-drug-dealer/article/20070101120409990010)
Wow what a shocker!!!! I bet he took the time to raise his dog correctly in between drug deals! I also love how the called it a pitbull terrier type. Could be a pit mixed with anything. Anything that resembles a bully breed is a pitbull ::)
I own a 90 year old american bulldog. People ask me if he is a massive pitbull all the time. Ab's are mastiffs ::)
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Wow what a shocker!!!! I bet he took the time to raise his dog correctly in between drug deals!
What a suprise a DRUG DEALER choses to have a PIT BULL... NO NO - ZERO CORRELATION BETWEEN THE BREED OF DOG AND OWNER! ::)
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What a suprise a DRUG DEALER choses to have a PIT BULL... NO NO - ZERO CORRELATION BETWEEN THE BREED OF DOG AND OWNER! ::)
So what? What if he had a Doberman? Far better protection dogs then a pitbull. Btw, the official report is "pitbull type". Half boxer half pit? Half pit half staffy? Half pit quarter lab? Half mastiff half pit? You tell me. Did this man bring this mix up correctly?
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So what? What if he had a Doberman? far beatter protection dogs then a pitbull. Btw, the officakl report is "pitbull type". Half boxer half pit? Half pit half staffy? Half pit quarter lab? You tell me.
Grasping at straws.
You've totally mis-interpreted my stance on the issue. I've never said pits should be banned outright (check out my responces to this issue in this thread, note my suggestions). Although I am against the whole concept of having pets really.
The problem with you is, your heart does the thinking, common sensibilities are thrown out of the window and you are quick to get on your high horse.
Really brother, read my comments in this thread. You've got the wrong idea about my stance. You're just in defence mode and haven't took in ANYTHING i've had to say on the issue.
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Ban Drug Dealing >:(
oh wait...it is. You can't blame a type of dog, or dogs in general for what they are "trained" to do. And you know what a Drug Dealer's dog (regardless of the breed) is trained to do.
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Grasping at straws.
You've totally mis-interpreted my stance on the issue. I've never said pits should be banned outright (check out my responces to this issue in this thread, note my suggestions). Although I am against the whole concept of having pets really.
The problem with you is, your heart does the thinking, common sensibilities are thrown out of the window and you are quick to get on your high horse.
Really brother, read my comments in this thread. You've got the wrong idea about my stance. You're just in defence mode and haven't took in ANYTHING i've had to say on the issue.
I was responding to your most recent comment. Not what you wrote before. I do not need to grasp at straws. I can post facts and scientific studies to back up most the things I say. 99.9 percent of the comments in this thread are being mad by people who have no idea what they are talking about. You are one of the few who make good arguments. I will read your other posts now.
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It turns out you're not answering your PMs you ignorant muslim loving communist! >:(
It turns out I didn't notice your pm until after I had posted my message!
Communist? I hope you get shin-splints! :D
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Well, not that I'm defending anything. Just saying other breeds attack too... especially when provoked by kids, etc. I was attacked by a pit bull, sort of, a few years ago, so totally not defending anything. His teeth went right through a sheepskin jacket and ski sweater and drew blood. It knocked me right over the hood of a car. I think it was because I had a big red gym bag hanging off me... and the retard (literally, it was the owner's mentally challenged cousin) walking the dog had it on an extra long lead. Luckily I had dogs so knew enough to stay calm and managed to get it off me. If I had been a kid or an old person, it probably would have got me. That's how strong the little bugger was. Wasn't put down either...
Stupid incompetent canine! I can't believe it attacked you and failed to rip you apart. :-\ I would actually throw you inside a dog pound full of starving pitt bulls, and then tape you being mauled, then jack-off to it. That would be a pretty damn good retribution for your mutilation of boys, you stupid cun.t. I would only feel sorry for the poor pit bulls, having to eat your putrid flesh. And fuck that little girl. Who gives a shit? Thousands of boys are mutilated and killed every year, and yet everyone cries for some little whore? Fuck her. She'd probably grow up to become a spoilet little princess anyway, pampered by her daddy, and then would leach off some poor sap for the rest of his life. Planet Earth is already exhausted, so there's no need for the little bitch to be breathing my oxygen. I say good riddance! :D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Stupid incompetent canine! I can't believe it attacked you and failed to rip you apart. :-\ I would actually throw you inside a dog pound full of starving pitt bulls, and then tape you being mauled, then jack-off to it. That would be a pretty damn good retribution for your mutilation of boys, you stupid cun.t. I would only feel sorry for the poor pit bulls, having to eat your putrid flesh. And f**k that little girl. Who gives a shit? Thousands of boys are mutilated and killed every year, and yet everyone cries for some little whore? f**k her. She'd probably grow up to become a spoilet little princess anyway, pampered by her daddy, and then would leach off some poor sap for the rest of his life. Planet Earth is already exhausted, so there's no need for the little bitch to be breathing my oxygen. I say good riddance! :D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
wow!! you really don't like poor deedee do you, or women in general so it would seem.
why do you feel this way? are you gay and angry about it?
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wow!! you really don't like poor deedee do you, or women in general so it would seem.
why do you feel this way? are you gay and angry about it?
Don't talk like this to your daddy... ;D ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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hahaha i got a funny story, my dads freind, whom is a copper was going to a house once for a report on an aggressive and attacking dog (this would have been 15 yrs ago) and when he got there to tell him to keep the dog locked up - it was a bitch with pups so it was going nuts, it ran out from the back yard and it jumped to clamp onto him, haha he whipped his .38 out and blew its back leg off HAHA. stupid dog.
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I think I am going to start feeding my kitten gun powder ,so will she be tough enough to whip my mother's Lahsa Apso ? That dog needs an attitude adjustment.
Just look at how viciously she attacks this cloth tape measure....she is a born killer.
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You are looking at a killing machine.
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awwwwwwww, cute kitty gtbro1 :D
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Pits are so eager to please, they will do anything to please their owners. If a Pit is mauling people, it has been trained to do so. Pits are normally animal aggressive, people friendly. We should also outlaw cars, because cars kill more people than Pits do. ???
The comparison of cars and pitbulls only hurts the pitbull argument IMO.
There are more pros than cons of cars. There are not really any alternatives to cars, either. That's why we should have them.
The same could not be said for pitbulls. The cons outweighs the pros, and there are several breeds that could be offered instead, such as a Golden Retriever.
Pitbulls are very seldom used for anything else but companionship, ie they're a luxury item. There are other breeds that are better suited for duties such as supporting blind people, searching for narcs, herding sheeps, et al.
-Hedge
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hahaha i got a funny story, my dads freind, whom is a copper was going to a house once for a report on an aggressive and attacking dog (this would have been 15 yrs ago) and when he got there to tell him to keep the dog locked up - it was a bitch with pups so it was going nuts, it ran out from the back yard and it jumped to clamp onto him, haha he whipped his .38 out and blew its back leg off HAHA. stupid dog.
I've got a funnier one. There was a piece in the paper a few years ago about an undercover narcotics officer who was "discovered" by the dealers he was gathering info on. They took him to a house and tossed him into an empty room, and then released about 4-5 highly motivated Rots into the room with him. They killed him. HAHA. stupid cop.
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According to the logic used in this thread, we should ban all motorcycles because they have a higher accident rate than cars.
And all black people should be banned, because they have a higher crime rate than whites.
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The comparison of cars and pitbulls only hurts the pitbull argument IMO.
There are more pros than cons of cars. There are not really any alternatives to cars, either. That's why we should have them.
The same could not be said for pitbulls. The cons outweighs the pros, and there are several breeds that could be offered instead, such as a Golden Retriever.
Pitbulls are very seldom used for anything else but companionship, ie they're a luxury item. There are other breeds that are better suited for duties such as supporting blind people, searching for narcs, herding sheeps, et al.
-Hedge
How many pitbulls have have you came into contact with?
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The comparison of cars and pitbulls only hurts the pitbull argument IMO.
There are more pros than cons of cars. There are not really any alternatives to cars, either. That's why we should have them.
The same could not be said for pitbulls. The cons outweighs the pros, and there are several breeds that could be offered instead, such as a Golden Retriever.
Pitbulls are very seldom used for anything else but companionship, ie they're a luxury item. There are other breeds that are better suited for duties such as supporting blind people, searching for narcs, herding sheeps, et al.
-Hedge
Pitbulls are some of the best narc and search and rescue dogs in the world. Take a look at the breeds used at the wtc site. Some where pitbulls. They are also used on the border as narc dogs.
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I've got a funnier one. There was a piece in the paper a few years ago about an undercover narcotics officer who was "discovered" by the dealers he was gathering info on. They took him to a house and tossed him into an empty room, and then released about 4-5 highly motivated Rots into the room with him. They killed him. HAHA. stupid cop.
i didnt laugh at your joke, but if you understood the way this guy unsheathed his gun in the time the dog took to jump and take a bullet mid-flight you would.
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i didnt laugh at your joke, but if you understood the way this guy unsheathed his gun in the time the dog took to jump and take a bullet mid-flight you would.
sorry, still don't see the humor in your post. A female dog shot because it was protecting it's pups is not something I find very comical.
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According to the logic used in this thread, we should ban all motorcycles because they have a higher accident rate than cars.
And all black people should be banned, because they have a higher crime rate than whites.
well... :-X
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well... :-X
hahah, yes, my thoughts exactly. hahaha
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hahah, yes, my thoughts exactly. hahaha
wait, aren't you black?
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wait, aren't you black?
That would be a big negatory.
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so then that myspace page is BS then? someone posted some page with a big fat dude from texas
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so then that myspace page is BS then? someone posted some page with a big fat dude from texas
It was brianX, I think he's dating that guy on the myspace page. It's actually funny, because I can't even tan for shit.
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showstoppa are you saying that brianx has always been fond of kegstands because he heard it would allow him to drink straight from the tap?
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Stupid...
Instead of banning the breed, just deal with it on a case by case basis.
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showstoppa are you saying that brianx has always been fond of kegstands because he heard it would allow him to drink straight from the tap?
hahaha, yes Sir William. When he heard the ad campaign for UPS, "What can brown do for you?" he quickly called them on the phone and asked them to send over their finest young buck to service his needs. His plan was foiled when he requested the guy only wear assless chaps, a ballgag and a spattering of ball glitter. hahaha
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sorry, still don't see the humor in your post. A female dog shot because it was protecting it's pups is not something I find very comical.
it was attacking people and kids.
you put agro dogs before humans?
lol! nice.
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it was attacking people and kids.
you put agro dogs before humans?
lol! nice.
I put virtually all dogs above most humans I've ever met. ;D