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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: jaejonna on January 02, 2007, 08:09:34 AM
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If they do not have the same contest that was won by Chick last year, will that be proof that it was all a fix and set up merely to let Chick win it ?
And if it is held again, will the champion defend his title like a real man, or just hide behind the commentators table with the other 'has beens' and 'never weres'.
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As far as I know...no one is putting the show on this year.
If it was on, I would have gladly defended the title, and invited all to come and play...as I did last year.
I find it funny how you think it was "fixed" for me to win...no one had any control over who showed up...Strydom, Vince Taylor, Flex, Shawn, anyone could have decided to compete...it wasn't in my hands.
Also funny how you and many others here kept saying I had no chance, I was out of shape, blah, blah...then when I win, and prove you know nothing about competitive BB...you switch gears to save face and cry "fix"...
Keep up the good work.
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As far as I know...no one is putting the show on this year.
If it was on, I would have gladly defended the title, and invited all to come and play...as I did last year.
I find it funny how you think it was "fixed" for me to win...no one had any control over who showed up...Strydom, Vince Taylor, Flex, Shawn, anyone could have decided to compete...it wasn't in my hands.
Also funny how you and many others here kept saying I had no chance, I was out of shape, blah, blah...then when I win, and prove you know nothing about competitive BB...you switch gears to save face and cry "fix"...
Keep up the good work.
Im just saying, it seems like the contest was just taylor fitted to your BB.com road to the masters DVD...and now that its all said and done, no contest this year ?
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Hell I wish Shawn would decide to compete again and easily win a Master's Olympia or World's Title
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Damn, they should have that show every year. So many great BBers that want to continue competing after 40.
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Im just saying, it seems like the contest was just taylor fitted to your BB.com road to the masters DVD...and now that its all said and done, no contest this year ?
No...we fitted the W4W DVD to getting ready for the show.
Now that it's said and done...Steve decided not to hold it again this year, as it didn't make any additional money for him...just cost him money.
Even before I became eleigable for the masters...I said it wasn't a profitable venture, hence the Masters Olympis getting the ax a few years back.
It was a nice idea originally, but the former champs they were hoping to come back...didn't. Quite frankly...for the purse, it doesn't really pay (financially) to compete in it.
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No...we fitted the W4W DVD to getting ready for the show.
Now that it's said and done...Steve decided not to hold it again this year, as it didn't make any additional money for him...just cost him money.
Even before I became eleigable for the masters...I said it wasn't a profitable venture, hence the Masters Olympis getting the ax a few years back.
It was a nice idea originally, but the former champs they were hoping to come back...didn't. Quite frankly...for the purse, it doesn't really pay (financially) to compete in it.
So when are you going to let guys like Freeman into that secrete???
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Huh?
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why couldn't it just be added to another show? since you're already renting out the auditorium, there would be little additional cost
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why couldn't it just be added to another show? since you're already renting out the auditorium, there would be little additional cost
...Other than the $20,000 purse.
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wish there ws a masters this yr....yonnie hamburger ws saying something about it this past summer..
i'd like to see how he does..
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...Other than the $20,000 purse.
a separate ticket should more than cover that, even if it was only $40
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a separate ticket should more than cover that, even if it was only $40
And you think there is enough interest for 1,000 ADDITIONAL people to purchase a $40 ticket??
LOL...
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As far as I know...no one is putting the show on this year.
If it was on, I would have gladly defended the title, and invited all to come and play...as I did last year.
I find it funny how you think it was "fixed" for me to win...no one had any control over who showed up...Strydom, Vince Taylor, Flex, Shawn, anyone could have decided to compete...it wasn't in my hands.
Also funny how you and many others here kept saying I had no chance, I was out of shape, blah, blah...then when I win, and prove you know nothing about competitive BB...you switch gears to save face and cry "fix"...
Keep up the good work.
Take it with a grain of salt bob look whos making the comment,some young punk whos done nothing in the world of bb.Are there cases were one shouldnt have won over another HELL YES but you cannot control everything a judge is going to do just like in sports the refs dont always make good calls..
You won that show hands down.And adding a masters show to another venue wouldnt be a bad idea ..
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And you think there is enough interest for 1,000 ADDITIONAL people to purchase a $40 ticket??
LOL...
first it's only 500, and they wouldn't all be additional people. contests often have separate tickets for the men prejudging and the women prejudging, especially figure. have a separate relatively cheap ticket for prejudging the Masters. you'll get some people coming specifically for the Masters, and while they're there, some may buy tickets for the other events as well.
but as I've written before, the problem with the pro shows is they try to create these mega events, expecting people to fly in from all around the country, yet they spend very little trying to get the locals to come.
The Ironman in Pasadena is 6 weeks away. they should already have ads in the LA Weekly. In a few weeks they should have ads in Frontiers. The week before they should be standing outside the major serious gyms handing out 4x6 cards.
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first it's only 500, and they wouldn't all be additional people. contests often have separate tickets for the men prejudging and the women prejudging, especially figure. have a separate relatively cheap ticket for prejudging the Masters. you'll get some people coming specifically for the Masters, and while they're there, some may buy tickets for the other events as well.
but as I've written before, the problem with the pro shows is they try to create these mega events, expecting people to fly in from all around the country, yet they spend very little trying to get the locals to come.
The Ironman in Pasadena is 6 weeks away. they should already have ads in the LA Weekly. In a few weeks they should have ads in Frontiers. The week before they should be standing outside the major serious gyms handing out 4x6 cards.
Yeah...500 if the promoter is looking to break even. Promoters are looking to MAKE money...not break even, and not LOSE money, or they wont be promoting very long.
I'm not even factoring in additional expenses like renting the auditorium for more hours, union costs, awards, flying pro athletes in and putting them up, etc...
Believe me...if there was money to be made...they'd be putting it on.
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I don't see the point for a Masters show, personally. From what I've seen in history, some of the best bodybuilders ever won the top titles when they were in their forties.
Case in point:
Bill Pearl - won the 1971 NABBA Mr. Universe at age 41, at his all-time best 241 lbs.
Chris Dickerson won the Mr. Olympia in 1982 at age 43.
At least one of Franco Columbu's Olympia occurred, when Columbu was in his 40s.
Ronnie Coleman has procured two Olympias in his 40s.
Lou Ferrigno came in his best shape (size and condition) in 1993, at 315 lbs and age 41.
And, there's Vince Taylor, who placed top 5 at the Olympia and Arnold Classic, in his 40s. He would have placed top-5 more often, had DeMilla let him compete in both the Masters and regular Olympia.
Plus, considering how close Mr. Chicerillo came to winning a pro show in 2002, I think he can still hold his own with the IFBB's best.
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Yeah...500 if the promoter is looking to break even. Promoters are looking to MAKE money...not break even, and not LOSE money, or they wont be promoting very long.
I'm not even factoring in additional expenses like renting the auditorium for more hours, union costs, awards, flying pro athletes in and putting them up, etc...
Believe me...if there was money to be made...they'd be putting it on.
Two questions, Chick!!
1) You didn't get the Darrem Charles' treatment, with regards to your first-place check, did you?
2) Do you still have the hat that Ken Jones tossed you, from the 2004 Orlando Xtreme Pro show?
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Two questions, Chick!!
1) You didn't the Darrem Charles' treatment, with regards to your first-place check, did you?
2) Do you still have the hat that Ken Jones tossed you, from the 2004 Orlando Xtreme Pro show?
1.) My check was given to me on the spot from Steve W. there was no problem or delay in cashing it.
2.) No, I tossed it back....
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So like toney freeman and ronnie can compete in that show too. If i were them i would do it to get a quick pay day..
Would anyone look down on them?
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Take it with a grain of salt bob look whos making the comment,some young punk whos done nothing in the world of bb.Are there cases were one shouldnt have won over another HELL YES but you cannot control everything a judge is going to do just like in sports the refs dont always make good calls..
You won that show hands down.And adding a masters show to another venue wouldnt be a bad idea ..
hey listen you big headed noob, pro ass licker...chick won his show...not so hands down from what I have seen....the issues was the fact if they did or did not mean to set up a show to have bob win for whatever purpose that fills commercially. what have you done in the world of bb ? other than be some 40 something loser arguing with kids , go back to your office management job, i think the printer needs more ink.
ps fuck the world of BB...
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hey listen you big headed noob, pro ass licker...chick won his show...not so hands down from what I have seen....the issues was the fact if they did or did not mean to set up a show to have bob win for whatever purpose that fills commercially. what have you done in the world of bb ? other than be some 40 something loser arguing with kids , go back to your office management job, i think the printer needs more ink.
ps f**k the world of BB...
Were you there?
Don't you find it a bit ironic that no one who was actually there in attendance disputed the win, or even thought it was close?
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hey listen you big headed noob, pro ass licker...chick won his show...not so hands down from what I have seen....the issues was the fact if they did or did not mean to set up a show to have bob win for whatever purpose that fills commercially. what have you done in the world of bb ? other than be some 40 something loser arguing with kids , go back to your office management job, i think the printer needs more ink.
ps f**k the world of BB...
meltdown by the way your to easy as far as kissing his ass ok jj give the man his due you know you were fishing for an argument and nothing like self owning yourself calling yourself a kid.. there are alot of members on here 35 and older some in the squad so what are you saying we should post here.....
maybe when you put the bottle down and move outa mommies house you may learn something. untill then STFU ...
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hey listen you big headed noob, pro ass licker...chick won his show...not so hands down from what I have seen....the issues was the fact if they did or did not mean to set up a show to have bob win for whatever purpose that fills commercially. what have you done in the world of bb ? other than be some 40 something loser arguing with kids , go back to your office management job, i think the printer needs more ink.
ps f**k the world of BB...
hahahahaha, Dan18 shouldn't be typing on the computer when he's supposed to be fetching coffee for the workers in the mail room.
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hahahahaha, Dan18 shouldn't be typing on the computer when he's supposed to be fetching coffee for the workers in the mail room.
you shouldnt poke your nose were it dont belong
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BOB, are you going to compete this year ?
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Bob, I want my Belt and My CHECK you old Fart! >:(
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Were you there?
Don't you find it a bit ironic that no one who was actually there in attendance disputed the win, or even thought it was close?
Bob i was there, so you know.....i thought you won, barely........i also thought Sergio won in 1972, (i wasnt there btw) im not questioning your victory, just the fact that the NEW contest is now just a ONE AND DONE event.....something smells fishy , and im not talking about the free egg white international tee shirts either.
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meltdown by the way your to easy as far as kissing his ass ok jj give the man his due you know you were fishing for an argument and nothing like self owning yourself calling yourself a kid.. there are alot of members on here 35 and older some in the squad so what are you saying we should post here.....
maybe when you put the bottle down and move outa mommies house you may learn something. untill then STFU ...
yeah i drink all the time and live at my moms, you got me pegged.
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If they do not have the same contest that was won by Chick last year, will that be proof that it was all a fix and set up merely to let Chick win it ?
And if it is held again, will the champion defend his title like a real man, or just hide behind the commentators table with the other 'has beens' and 'never weres'.
read your post dont back peddle jj ..................be a man dont back up because you were called on your shit....
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...Other than the $20,000 purse.
Bob, how much of your $20,000 cheque was needed to cover your contest prep drugs bill (and food too)?
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read your post dont back peddle jj ..................be a man dont back up because you were called on your shit....
ok dan...what 'shit ' are you referring to ?
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you shouldnt poke your nose were it dont belong
hahahaha, are you threatening me now, forehead?
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hahahaha, are you threatening me now, forehead?
dan feels that on the G&O boards that he is the moral authority cause he is bigger and better
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dan feels that on the G&O boards that he is the moral authority cause he is bigger and better
hahahaha, I'll admit I'm a little scared. If he were to headbutt me, it just might smash my head in half.
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hahahaha, are you threatening me now, forehead?
i see no threat why take it so personal bf just a message board right ;)
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i see no threat why take it so personal bf just a message board right ;)
ive never heard you say that before ::)
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dan feels that on the G&O boards that he is the moral authority cause he is bigger and better
Glad you see it my way little boy........
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hahahaha, I'll admit I'm a little scared. If he were to headbutt me, it just might smash my head in half.
I could do that without without my head 8)
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calm down bros....
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Glad you see it my way little boy........
you couldnt hold my gym card headman.........
.im way outta your league fore18..
...man up and do the Spring Mr. Getbig if your a man
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you couldnt hold my gym card headman.........
.im way outta your league fore18..
...man up and do the Spring Mr. Getbig if your a man
yea ok jj i saw your pics you have an ok base but you have a long way to go,
and as far as a show goes step on a real stage then you can try and call me out getbig show=joke....
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yea ok jj i saw your pics you have an ok base but you have a long way to go,
and as far as a show goes step on a real stage then you can try and call me out getbig show=joke....
You would step on a stage with JJ? He would kill you. Your conditioning is awful.
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yea ok jj i saw your pics you have an ok base but you have a long way to go,
and as far as a show goes step on a real stage then you can try and call me out getbig show=joke....
how is the getbig a joke ?
did they not prepare?
did they not diet and train ?
so they didnt get all tanned up in the back together and pose next to one another in front of stangers ...is that what makes things worth its while ? fuck your stage
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You would step on a stage with JJ? He would kill you. Your conditioning is awful.
ok danielson please tell us all what it takes i mean ive only done a few show so im sure i have no idea ::)..you see my pic well i wasnt getting ready for a show and i im still pretty tight and lean not contest ready but i know what it takes you have no clue............whats a matter still mad i melted you down the other day bitch boy..
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ok danielson please tell us all what it takes i mean ive only done a few show so im sure i have no idea ::)..you see my pic well i wasnt getting ready for a show and i im still pretty tight and lean not contest ready but i know what it takes you have no clue............whats a matter still mad i melted you down the other day bitch boy..
You melted me down? Dude you are like 60, it's kind of stupid for you to say shit like that. First you need to grow up. Then you need to realize that JJ would destroy you in any contest you competed in.
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how is the getbig a joke ?
did they not prepare?
did they not diet and train ?
so they didnt get all tanned up in the back together and pose next to one another in front of stangers ...is that what makes things worth its while ? f**k your stage
the only one who really did his work was TA even though he over dieted and came in way to light he was the only one who could have stepped on a real stage as a light weight ....
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And you think there is enough interest for 1,000 ADDITIONAL people to purchase a $40 ticket??
LOL...
Are you saying there's not enough interest from schmoes, in seeing an aging male entertainer?
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the only one who really did his work was TA even though he over dieted and came in way to light he was the only one who could have stepped on a real stage as a light weight ....
Backday is a tribute to the human spirit
Daddywaddy was one blunt session away from natural perfection
alexxx is a rose budding before us
Bast had to tell his doctor that he suspect that he has herpes so he can use the office lighting
BabyHerc made us believe that the color of ones skin can actually be darker!
To say that none of these PIONEERS prepared ....you sir must be mistaken!!
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Are you saying there's not enough interest from schmoes, in seeing an aging male entertainer?
You tell me...you seem to have the pulse of the schmo's as you bring them and homo's up in almost every post you make.
Still have those unresolved issues?
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You tell me...you seem to have the pulse of the schmo's as you bring them and homo's up in almost every post you make.
Still have those unresolved issues?
LOL
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Those of us who were there saw very clearly that Bob was way out in front as the winner from the moment he hit the stage. The guy came in at 110% and was beyond anyone else for that show on that day. Period, no question. As we sat in the front row we all knew it on the spot, we all talked about duirng the break. And by the way, there is no money in "fixing" competitons, no one cares, no point to it, and no one would bother.
And let me also say that if Bob had not come in at 110% I would have been the first to tell him to his face and why.
Try to upgrade the quality of your remarks people, it is getting tiresome and you are going to all lose the real value of these boards.
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Those of us who were there saw very clearly that Bob was way out in front as the winner from the moment he hit the stage. The guy came in at 110% and was beyond anyone else for that show on that day. Period, no question. As we sat in the front row we all knew it on the spot, we all talked about duirng the break. And by the way, there is no money in "fixing" competitons, no one cares, no point to it, and no one would bother.
And let me also say that if Bob had not come in at 110% I would have been the first to tell him to his face and why.
Try to upgrade the quality of your remarks people, it is getting tiresome and you are going to all lose the real value of these boards.
I love how people try to talk intelligent but dont even read what the topic was. Ian, Bob was the best....that day... yes (against 7 scrubs)...but WAS the show was all set up to have him win? . Thats why its inaugural year was also its last year. Do you follow ?
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How could the show been "set up" for me to win it when ANYONE could have entered????
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How could the show been "set up" for me to win it when ANYONE could have entered????
Bob the people who ENTERED were on stage....this was just a fake contest with fake competetion. Thats like playing a football game against your buddies and telling others that your beat the San Diego Chargers, because they COULD of played too.
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Are you high?
Anyone eligable could have entered if they wished...I called out Strydom, Taylor, Flex, and anyone else in the world that wanted to mix it up.
If Ronnie himself wanted to enter, no one could have told him no...
It wasn't an invitational, it was a Masters IFBB Pro show open to anyone with a valid IFBB Pro cad and over 40 years old....GET IT?
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How could the show been "set up" for me to win it when ANYONE could have entered????
I think what is being said is the show was so bootleg that it couldn't possibly attract a decent pro. It's a legit questioning with a low purse to not entice quality pro's, one year only, winner finally receive a "pro win", hype for site, etc....
You even admit it's not cost effective for most to enter due to preparation costs, so why did you enter?
this thread has merit - delts
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Bob remember no icy in paradisey! look at what happen to Craig.
he had me and beth on a wild goose chase. lucky for him the cops got him first or i would of maced his face!
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I think what is being said is the show was so bootleg that it couldn't possibly attract a decent pro. It's a legit questioning with a low purse to not entice quality pro's, one year only, winner finally receive a "pro win", hype for site, etc....
You even admit it's not cost effective for most to enter due to preparation costs, so why did you enter?
this thread has merit - delts
I entered for a few reasons...
1.) It was cost effective for me, as I believed I had a chance to win it.
2.) It gave me a great reason to make a DVD chronicling my prep for it..
3.) Gave me a chance at a title
4.) By using the PBBW show as a media outlet, I was trying to get more of the 40+ Pro's out on the stage and try and make it a great show entertaining for the fans.
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Bob,
With all due respect, not taking anything away from you but you are a 'product'. I know you like to think of yourself as your own person but the people who pay you $$$ do so because (weather we like it or not) you are pretty much the 'face of professional BB'. And if i was your boss and had the chance to 'persuade' a couple of pros not to enter a contest so that our 'spokesperson' can be validated as a champion. Then thats where thier advertising dollars went for that month. Heck, knowing how you talk so frankly, I wouldnt let you in on the secret either. Your just a spoke in the wheel Bob, we are all spokes of some else's wheel 'champ'.
;D
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lolololol...you need to get with 240 on the other conspiracies!
You think BB.com REALLY gives a shit what shws I enter? It wasn't their call...it was mine, just as it is THIS year if I chose to compete or not.
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Chick,
Would you be upset if there was an asterisk* next to your IFBB win?
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Bob's episodes on The Fit Show were the best things they've put out to date. Bob had the vast majority of you hate'n on his conditioning 4 weeks out and showed you he's not quite over the hill yet.
You know it's a slow month in the bodybuilding world when this horse is still getting a beating. Thankfully, only a couple months until the conspiracies on the IRONMAN, Sacramento and Arnold winners begin.
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lolololol...you need to get with 240 on the other conspiracies!
You think BB.com REALLY gives a shit what shws I enter? It wasn't their call...it was mine, just as it is THIS year if I chose to compete or not.
So are they gonna make a new show for you to compete and win in again this year ?
-Rochester Classic
-Masters Moon and Planetary Championship
-Golds Venice Beach Gym Invitational
-Bob versus Tom Prince versus Jerome Championship
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what does it matter if it was a set up? Bob won, either way...it's all said and done, honestly why do you guys care so much? I don't even remember who came in 2nd, 3rd or 4th..it never even passes my mind...are you that hung up about a masters competition? I just don't get it. Even if it was a set up, who gives a shit?
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what does it matter if it was a set up? Bob won, either way...it's all said and done, honestly why do you guys care so much? I don't even remember who came in 2nd, 3rd or 4th..it never even passes my mind...are you that hung up about a masters competition? I just don't get it. Even if it was a set up, who gives a shit?
one word.....
RUSTY (bob hears that in his sleep)
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one word.....
RUSTY (bob hears that in his sleep)
who? oh, yeah....the guy that "won" the show...funny how nobody ever heard of him before the show and you haven't heard of him since, not to take anything away from him but I'd like to see some pics where he "beat" bob and the other guys who placed ahead of him.
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Those of us who were there saw very clearly that Bob was way out in front as the winner from the moment he hit the stage. The guy came in at 110% and was beyond anyone else for that show on that day. Period, no question. As we sat in the front row we all knew it on the spot, we all talked about duirng the break. And by the way, there is no money in "fixing" competitons, no one cares, no point to it, and no one would bother.
And let me also say that if Bob had not come in at 110% I would have been the first to tell him to his face and why.
Try to upgrade the quality of your remarks people, it is getting tiresome and you are going to all lose the real value of these boards.
Thanks Bob's relative ;D
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what I was saying is there are tons of guys who are in great shape and don't win shows...it's just the way it goes. Did Ronnie Rockel get screwed at the last olympia? Sure he did but I don't see threads about that or about Labrada losing the 90 olympia, sometimes these things happen, you can't blame Bob cause he won a show, let's get a judge on here to explain why he won and until that happens it's kinda uselesss to even talk about, isn't it?
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who? oh, yeah....the guy that "won" the show...funny how nobody ever heard of him before the show and you haven't heard of him since, not to take anything away from him but I'd like to see some pics where he "beat" bob and the other guys who placed ahead of him.
Speak for yourself. Lots of people have heard of Rusty before. In fact, I’m sure more people have heard of him than Bob C. ;)
Rusty’s contest history is here
http://musclememory.com/show.php?s=rusty+jeffers&g=M
There are no pix of Rusty and Bob side by side at the 2006 contest and that was not an accident. Remember the placings at the contest were as follows. I believe Rusty came in 8th. :o
1. Bob Cicherillo
2. Johnny Stewart
3. Pavol Jablonicky
4. Claude Groulx
5. Stan McCrary
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Ray Charles could see Rusty wasn't as conditioned as Bob.
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Speak for yourself. Lots of people have heard of Rusty before. In fact, I’m sure more people have heard of him than Bob C. ;)
Rusty’s contest history is here
http://musclememory.com/show.php?s=rusty+jeffers&g=M
There are no pix of Rusty and Bob side by side at the 2006 contest and that was not an accident. Remember the placings at the contest were as follows. I believe Rusty came in 8th. :o
1. Bob Cicherillo
2. Johnny Stewart
3. Pavol Jablonicky
4. Claude Groulx
5. Stan McCrary
honestly...why would he be 8th if he was in such good shape? I'm not saying he was or he wasn't cause I don't remember.....
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honestly...why would he be 8th if he was in such good shape? I'm not saying he was or he wasn't cause I don't remember.....
because he's been Colt's top model for the last 10-15 years. Colt is a gay soft core porn magazine specializing in very muscular guys. Many of the top bodybuilders of the 1970s were in Colt in the 1980s, including Chris Dickerson, Jim Morris, Bob Birdsong and dozens of others.
Rusty Jeffers (google Carl Hardwick) has done nudes and solo j/o, but never anything with another. Rusty is straight, married, and has a teen age daughter.
Rusty got 8th because the judges were afraid of voting for such a gay icon. yet they have no problem with bodybuilders who receive FedEx packages containing $300k of GH and steroids.
Bob may have been the best bodybuilder on stage, but Rusty was his only real competition.
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honestly...why would he be 8th if he was in such good shape? I'm not saying he was or he wasn't cause I don't remember.....
You're out of the loop.
because he's been Colt's top model for the last 10-15 years. Colt is a gay soft core porn magazine specializing in very muscular guys. Many of the top bodybuilders of the 1970s were in Colt in the 1980s, including Chris Dickerson, Jim Morris, Bob Birdsong and dozens of others.
Rusty Jeffers (google Carl Hardwick) has done nudes and solo j/o, but never anything with another. Rusty is straight, married, and has a teen age daughter.
Rusty got 8th because the judges were afraid of voting for such a gay icon. yet they have no problem with bodybuilders who receive FedEx packages containing $300k of GH and steroids.
You know too much. :)
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Maybe Bob could explain where he thinks Rusty should have placed?
I don't have any particularly homophobic feelings, got nothing against Jeffers. I also really enjoyed Bob's "War for the Worlds" watching it every week in the lead up to the show... I like Bob (great guy with a charasmatic personality), but as an impartial observer I noticed Rusty had Bob beat in each and every one of the mandatories.
Doesn't that warrant a comparison?
The Luke
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