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Title: Proper Decorum...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 04, 2007, 08:14:07 PM
just a quick question girls..

when i'm out on a date i follow the usual...open doors (car..etc etc)..pull out her chair for her..remain standing till she sits...stand when she leaves the room...blah..sounds too formal but done properly it just adds..done improperly and you'll look like a dork ( so i dont recommend the guy be this formal if he is unsure of himself )

what i get ackward about is when its time to order drinks..i'm usually at a loss as to whether i should follow tradation and order the wine myself or should i let her..or does she even like wine...blah...



advice?




PS its def a strike against the girl if she orders a blue hawaian instead a good red..personality is reflected in innane mannerisms..i firmly believe this..


o and i'm talking about meaningfull dates  .. i usually end up here   www.oldanglersinn.com (http://www.oldanglersinn.com)
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: davidpaul on January 04, 2007, 10:29:30 PM
I'M A 40 YEAR OLD VIRGIN


advice?






fixed. ;D
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 04, 2007, 10:43:12 PM
fixed. ;D

did i mention i grew up in a formal  family  ???  o..i did not...

i didn't wanna bring that up but till the age of 15..i didn't know how to tie my shoelaces(servants did that)...or dress myself(servants again )..nor did i go anywhere without bodyguards following me...hell if it wasn't a kidnapping attempt on my brother and myself(where bro got shot)..i'd still be living like a prince...


did that help your dumbass or now do i come across as showing off?  i mean shit..i really ws a virgin till i ws 21..but then again my mum taught me the romantic value of everything...and sex to this day for me happens to play secnd fiddle to love..


..do you understand..or should i make another indignant retort?
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 04, 2007, 10:45:16 PM
Hit the nail on the head there DP.

bitter much  ?   :-\


http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=116236.0

n thats just 1 example..

now david paul is trying to be funny..he is cool with me..but you..you keep following me around like nord and jimmy  :-\

what gives mate?
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 04, 2007, 10:53:36 PM
That I slipped up in saying that C

man o man yeah that ws last night..and then after that ya wouldn't stop- following me all over the politics board..


slip up..you mean didn't know..lol

btw..this question is for the girls..now unless you know a lot about wine and happen to grow a vagina..scram..seriously .. (you can better yourself at www.winespectator.com ..see i'm helping ya here )


you r destined for 3.2 kids...a 401k and a neat divorce...  :-\  you'll prolly happen to get laid more than me along the way though...so take heart..  :)
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: BuffGoddess on January 04, 2007, 10:55:21 PM
just a quick question girls..

when i'm out on a date i follow the usual...open doors (car..etc etc)..pull out her chair for her..remain standing till she sits...stand when she leaves the room...blah..sounds too formal but done properly it just adds..done improperly and you'll look like a dork ( so i dont recommend the guy be this formal is he is unsure of himself )

what i get ackward about is when its time to order drinks..i'm usually at a loss as to whether i should follow tradation and order the wine myself or should i let her..or does she even like wine...blah...



advice?




PS its def a strike against the girl if she orders a blue hawaian instead a good red..personality is reflected in innane mannerisms..i firmly believe this..


o and i'm talking about meaningfull dates  .. i usually end up here   www.oldanglersinn.com (http://www.oldanglersinn.com)

I think you should ask her what she would like to have before you get there. I'm a Vodka and diet 7-up girl myself. Never really developed a taste for wine. Ignore those guys that are putting you down. They're just jealous. You're nice, considerate, and definitely have class.
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: davidpaul on January 04, 2007, 10:55:37 PM
bitter much  ?   :-\


http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=116236.0

n thats just 1 example..

now david paul is trying to be funny..he is cool with me..but you..you keep following me around like nord and jimmy  :-\

what gives mate?

glad u saw the funny side tox, its all good g. 8)
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 04, 2007, 10:57:44 PM
glad u saw the funny side tox, its all good g. 8)

ahhh you r a funny cu nt!


i've made fun of ya before and you know i'm just funnin...if we cant laugh..then life would be really really fuckin short eh... 8)
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: davidpaul on January 04, 2007, 11:00:10 PM
ahhh you r a funny cu nt!


i've made fun of ya before and you know i'm just funnin...if we cant laugh..then life would be really really fuckin short eh... 8)

exactly mate.

Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 04, 2007, 11:02:36 PM
I think you should ask her what she would like to have before you get there. I'm a Vodka and diet 7-up girl myself. Never really developed a taste for wine. Ignore those guys that are putting you down. They're just jealous. You're nice, considerate, and definitely have class.

ahh david is a good guy...bezerk just has a problem..even with most females on here..owell..

well what do i do when i go to a place that only servs wine?  :-[  
and i feel wierd asking before hand..i think its crass....i cant even bring myself to buy girls that i dont know drinks at bars...

i think its crass to ask " would you like i drink"   <-- wayy to expectant..

what i usually do is go "  hey hon i'm gonna go grab myself a drink...do ya want something(or..watcha drinking)?"  that way..its not direct and its matter of factly...

what i usually do is look at the girl like ..you go first..and hope n pray she's gonna order herself a drink..instead of waiting for me..

however..a confident girl (that knows her wine) will only smile at me in that "go ahead..i trust ya" way...kinda makes my night sometimes  :)


Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: BuffGoddess on January 04, 2007, 11:17:29 PM
If you are at a place that only has wine, then by all means order a bottle. I'm sure you know more than most of us on here about wines, so she should trust your judgement. The only time I usually drink wine is on show day, I have some Merlot in a boda bag backstage. It seems to help wring out the last of the water if I'm not dry enough. Calms the nerves too...
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 04, 2007, 11:36:49 PM
If you are at a place that only has wine, then by all means order a bottle. I'm sure you know more than most of us on here about wines, so she should trust your judgement. The only time I usually drink wine is on show day, I have some Merlot in a boda bag backstage. It seems to help wring out the last of the water if I'm not dry enough. Calms the nerves too...

i hate ordering wine if i'm not sure she likes it..and i dont know more than most about wines on here..ok i'm being modest but still.  ;D

jennifer1 from the fitness board knows a LOT and so does Stella...

wine is more than just a drink..wine is an experience hon...almost religious...kinda like what you feel after you've seen your life pass in front of your eyes on a good squat day...

almost exactly like that actually...
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: Forbidden on January 05, 2007, 12:06:53 AM
I think your manners are charming toxic they cost nothing and everyone can own them, they are universal and certainly makes a girl feel very special.  I mean look at this:

The girl gets all dressed up for a wonderful date you know nails, hair, new underwear (just in case haha) gorgeous new dress, that mind you she has probably paid a fortune for and dieted for weeks to fit into.  Perfect make up looks a million dollars only to have the guy across from her carry on like he is on a camping trip with his mates.  It really has happened to me and I felt soooo embarrassed.  I myself pride myself on knowing what cultery to use, what glass to drink out of and knowing not to pick up the bill when it comes.  I also know that when the bill does come it is polite to excuse yourself to powder your nose.  Or if you both need to leave then to stand behind the man while he does the financial paperwork.  I feel really embarrassed for the guy when the girl is breathing down his neck while he is paying.  For one it is rude to stare into someones wallet and two if he hasnt got enough money or for some reason his credit is not good, without an audience it gives him privacy to work something out with the matrade. Just IMO

Now for the wine thing I think it was just assumed that the man would order and taste, these days I think it is ok for you to ask your lady.  I personally feel quite special when I am looked after and dont really have to think about the wine list.

Hope this helps xo
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on January 05, 2007, 01:37:17 AM
Let her choose her own wine, remember, these fomalities stem from times that were much more conservative, a time were women were not considered equal. Women these days offcourse still like courtesy but they are independent beings with their own set of brains, so fer god's sake let them pick their own wine!
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: diamond on January 05, 2007, 04:01:41 AM
awww Toxic...just awww!

Just ask her if she prefers anything specific...I'd like to have some sort of say in what I have to drink for the night.

I've been on a date where the guy has ordered the wine, and it was horrible...I could not bring myself to drink it, so for the whole date I went without a drink because I didnt want to feel bad ordering another drink lol.

Everyone has been preferences when it comes to wine, you are better off asking in case what you order is the complete opposite to what she likes.
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: GET_BIGGER on January 05, 2007, 07:56:34 AM
I would ask what she prefers........nothing wrong with asking and then ordering it.  But if I also noticed she wasnt drinking it i would ask what else she would like to drink rather than sitting their through the whole date being oblivious to her full glass.   ::)
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 05, 2007, 09:22:00 AM
I think your manners are charming toxic they cost nothing and everyone can own them, they are universal and certainly makes a girl feel very special.  I mean look at this:

The girl gets all dressed up for a wonderful date you know nails, hair, new underwear (just in case haha) gorgeous new dress, that mind you she has probably paid a fortune for and dieted for weeks to fit into.  Perfect make up looks a million dollars only to have the guy across from her carry on like he is on a camping trip with his mates.  It really has happened to me and I felt soooo embarrassed.  I myself pride myself on knowing what cultery to use, what glass to drink out of and knowing not to pick up the bill when it comes.  I also know that when the bill does come it is polite to excuse yourself to powder your nose.  Or if you both need to leave then to stand behind the man while he does the financial paperwork.  I feel really embarrassed for the guy when the girl is breathing down his neck while he is paying.  For one it is rude to stare into someones wallet and two if he hasnt got enough money or for some reason his credit is not good, without an audience it gives him privacy to work something out with the matrade. Just IMO

Now for the wine thing I think it was just assumed that the man would order and taste, these days I think it is ok for you to ask your lady.  I personally feel quite special when I am looked after and dont really have to think about the wine list.

Hope this helps xo

You my dear, are perfect!  :)


So many times i've been distressed when my date wont excuse herself after dinner is done and make herself scarse. I feel wierd paying in front of her and i happen to tip generously and i'm always wayyy to conscious that she might think i'm trying to impress her by throwing $ around..which would be utterly rude...so i NEED my dates to go 'powder their noses' after dinner is done.

Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 05, 2007, 09:24:14 AM
I would ask what she prefers........nothing wrong with asking and then ordering it.  But if I also noticed she wasnt drinking it i would ask what else she would like to drink rather than sitting their through the whole date being oblivious to her full glass.   ::)

bingo my man!
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: 24KT on January 05, 2007, 03:54:55 PM
Toxie, don't let the barberians taunt you for good manners.

My best friend Ed in Cali is like that.

He holds doors, pushes in chairs, stands when a woman leaves the table etc. not because he's looking to score points... that's just the way he was raised. A woman can tell if a guy is just looking to score points, or if he is  sincere, and simply the product of good breeding, and ingrained with courtesy and good manners. It just radiates from within.

Let me tell you he often puts many men in the room to shame because they too sense it's not out of desire to get laid.
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: proschic on January 05, 2007, 07:24:07 PM
Tox....

Use your upbringing, morals, and manners to weed out the girls that aren't good enough for you.  Most of the time it is the other way around....but it seems that you would make a fine catch for a respectable woman.

As long as you can let loose and have some fun outside of the dinner-setting...it sounds like you have your shit straight!  I hope you find someone that is worth your while.
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 06, 2007, 09:47:07 AM
Toxie, don't let the barberians taunt you for good manners.

My best friend Ed in Cali is like that.

He holds doors, pushes in chairs, stands when a woman leaves the table etc. not because he's looking to score points... that's just the way he was raised. A woman can tell if a guy is just looking to score points, or if he is  sincere, and simply the product of good breeding, and ingrained with courtesy and good manners. It just radiates from within.

Let me tell you he often puts many men in the room to shame because they too sense it's not out of desire to get laid.


thankyou! :)
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 06, 2007, 09:48:48 AM
  I hate red wine.  Gives me a headache and I haven't found one I could stand to drink.    :P

sangria!!!   8)
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: Forbidden on January 06, 2007, 05:51:35 PM
You my dear, are perfect!  :)


So many times i've been distressed when my date wont excuse herself after dinner is done and make herself scarse. I feel wierd paying in front of her and i happen to tip generously and i'm always wayyy to conscious that she might think i'm trying to impress her by throwing $ around..which would be utterly rude...so i NEED my dates to go 'powder their noses' after dinner is done.



I am far from perfect but I do try! LOL
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: GoneAway on January 06, 2007, 11:35:42 PM
pride > pussy

Somehow, that quote and this thread don't match.
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: BuffGoddess on January 07, 2007, 01:38:20 AM
Toxie, don't let the barberians taunt you for good manners.

My best friend Ed in Cali is like that.

He holds doors, pushes in chairs, stands when a woman leaves the table etc. not because he's looking to score points... that's just the way he was raised. A woman can tell if a guy is just looking to score points, or if he is  sincere, and simply the product of good breeding, and ingrained with courtesy and good manners. It just radiates from within.

Let me tell you he often puts many men in the room to shame because they too sense it's not out of desire to get laid.
And his phone number is....Just teasing because I'm very happy with my man but I do have a couple of friends that are single...
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 07, 2007, 12:11:26 PM


As long as you can let loose and have some fun outside of the dinner-setting...it sounds like you have your shit straight!  I hope you find someone that is worth your while.

at some point i'll post my skydiving pix!  8)

i jump at Ocean City MD airport
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 07, 2007, 12:12:40 PM
Somehow, that quote and this thread don't match.

correct...

but i still mean it!
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: 24KT on January 07, 2007, 12:16:12 PM
And his phone number is....Just teasing because I'm very happy with my man but I do have a couple of friends that are single...

Are they Christians? ...and I mean devout Christians... the kind that would make STella look like a pagan?
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 07, 2007, 12:19:53 PM
And his phone number is....Just teasing because I'm very happy with my man but I do have a couple of friends that are single...

aww hon thats sweet but i just got back into traning and i wanna stay focused. Plus my school now wants me to travel to do conference type classes for corporate types <bleh  >:( > and i'm in the process of working that out..(travel and training..i'm not 2 happy about that)...i have a test looming and everytime i mention moving to fairfax VA my mum flips out with " you dont love me anymore" ....i dont think i'd be fair to any girl to get attached to THIS mess right now..and knowing that i'm not looking for a relationship i dont think it'd be fair for me to be physical with any girl ..cause i know beforehand it wont go anywhere..


once in a blue moon the gods hand me a no strings attached one niter..and i'm just gonna (for now) have to wait for the next one...

hot girls have hot friends...expect a PM about one of your friends when i have my life straightened out though  :)
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: BuffGoddess on January 07, 2007, 09:16:25 PM
aww hon thats sweet but i just got back into traning and i wanna stay focused. Plus my school now wants me to travel to do conference type classes for corporate types <bleh  >:( > and i'm in the process of working that out..(travel and training..i'm not 2 happy about that)...i have a test looming and everytime i mention moving to fairfax VA my mum flips out with " you dont love me anymore" ....i dont think i'd be fair to any girl to get attached to THIS mess right now..and knowing that i'm not looking for a relationship i dont think it'd be fair for me to be physical with any girl ..cause i know beforehand it wont go anywhere..


once in a blue moon the gods hand me a no strings attached one niter..and i'm just gonna (for now) have to wait for the next one...

hot girls have hot friends...expect a PM about one of your friends when i have my life straightened out though  :)
You do have style and class...Good luck with your venture...
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 07, 2007, 10:03:30 PM
You do have style and class...Good luck with your venture...
thanx!  :)
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: Forbidden on January 08, 2007, 12:56:21 AM
thanx!  :)

You seem to be getting your own little fan club here dont you Toxic??
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 08, 2007, 10:56:21 AM
You seem to be getting your own little fan club here dont you Toxic??

its not polite to talk about it..

shhh...
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: Forbidden on January 08, 2007, 01:19:11 PM
its not polite to talk about it..

shhh...


Oh ok I didnt know from now on I will keep it to myself  ;D But if you do go dancing in the woods Nakky can you let me know ;)
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 08, 2007, 01:34:29 PM

Oh ok I didnt know from now on I will keep it to myself  ;D But if you do go dancing in the woods Nakky can you let me know ;)

eons n eons ago...toxic kinda had his own harem..but shhh....lol..toxic is a very very good boy now in comparision..


dancing in the woods nakey....<grin> isn't that called frolicking? ...but i'd rather watch!  ;)
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: Forbidden on January 08, 2007, 01:38:29 PM
eons n eons ago...toxic kinda had his own harem..but shhh....lol..toxic is a very very good boy now in comparision..


dancing in the woods nakey....<grin> isn't that called frolicking? ...but i'd rather watch!  ;)

Ha Ha!!!  Hey out of interest what time is it there?  It is 8:30am Tuesday in Sunny downunder.  It is windy and a little cool, really silly weather for Australia at this time of year.  I just got dressed (unusual for me I know) and I thought I am gonna freeze my boobies off today if I dont change ha ha!!!
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 08, 2007, 01:46:12 PM
Ha Ha!!!  Hey out of interest what time is it there?  It is 8:30am Tuesday in Sunny downunder.  It is windy and a little cool, really silly weather for Australia at this time of year.  I just got dressed (unusual for me I know) and I thought I am gonna freeze my boobies off today if I dont change ha ha!!!

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=college+park+maryland+weather

its 4:45 pm on monday today...


wait..you r in the future!  :D

and i like it when ya say boobies!  :)
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 08, 2007, 01:48:58 PM
my former college! :)

http://www.physics.umd.edu/academics/grad/images/BigM.gif
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: Forbidden on January 08, 2007, 01:49:49 PM
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=college+park+maryland+weather

its 4:45 pm on monday today...


wait..you r in the future!  :D

and i like it when ya say boobies!  :)

boobies[move]
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that always spins me out how can I be in the future and explain this to me how is it that things happen on the news and I am seeing it today and it is happening today does that mean that if you hear it where you are (on the news) that it happened in Oz does that mean that it happened for you on Monday or does it happen in the future.  Please explain I just dont understand I know there has to be some logically explanation but for the life of me I can see it.
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 08, 2007, 01:55:18 PM
boobies[move]
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that always spins me out how can I be in the future and explain this to me how is it that things happen on the news and I am seeing it today and it is happening today does that mean that if you hear it where you are (on the news) that it happened in Oz does that mean that it happened for you on Monday or does it happen in the future.  Please explain I just dont understand I know there has to be some logically explanation but for the life of me I can see it.

aww its exactly the  same time and day hon..for both of us..but for the sake of sanity and economics (since our night is your day) the distinction is made and time zones r set up...



everyone on the planet watches the cricket world cup "together" but they happen to be in different "man made" timezones


got it?


that ws soo cute..    :)

boobies boobies boobies! ;D
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: Forbidden on January 08, 2007, 02:23:11 PM
aww its exactly the  same time and day hon..for both of us..but for the sake of sanity and economics (since our night is your day) the distinction is made and time zones r set up...



everyone on the planet watches the cricket world cup "together" but they happen to be in different "man made" timezones


got it?


that ws soo cute..    :)

boobies boobies boobies! ;D

Oh ok now that you mention the cricket I kinda get it ??? ???
I bet there are a lot of other people reading that post and thinking --- how dumb is this girl ha ha!!  I am not afraid of asking stupid questions, and now I have learnt something!
boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies[move]
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Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 08, 2007, 02:27:54 PM
Oh ok now that you mention the cricket I kinda get it ??? ???
I bet there are a lot of other people reading that post and thinking --- how dumb is this girl ha ha!!  I am not afraid of asking stupid questions, and now I have learnt something!
boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies[move]
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i myself hound my teaches with questions...

its not dumb at all when ya askquestions..

its stupid when ya dont know something and keep your mouth shut in fear of what others will think...


and if ya dont quit saying boobies..i'm gonna develop a serious crush on you  :)
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: Forbidden on January 08, 2007, 02:32:28 PM
i myself hound my teaches with questions...

its not dumb at all when ya askquestions..

its stupid when ya dont know something and keep your mouth shut in fear of what others will think...


and if ya dont quit saying boobies..i'm gonna develop a serious crush on you  :)
BOOBIES --- BOOBIES -- BOOBIES -- BOOBIES -- BOOBIES -- BOOBIES[move]
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Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 08, 2007, 02:34:23 PM
BOOBIES --- BOOBIES -- BOOBIES -- BOOBIES -- BOOBIES -- BOOBIES[move]
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 :-*

there..you've gone n done it...
 :)


and i dont even know your name...

thats kinda charming me thinks!  :)
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: Forbidden on January 08, 2007, 03:41:27 PM

 :-*

there..you've gone n done it...
 :)


and i dont even know your name...

thats kinda charming me thinks!  :)

Oh no does that mean now that we have a relationship!! 
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 08, 2007, 03:55:18 PM
Oh no does that mean now that we have a relationship!! 

a reeeealy long distance getbig girlfriend!


i have staked my claim boobies!

and that shall be your name " boobies"  :)
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: Forbidden on January 08, 2007, 06:20:12 PM
a reeeealy long distance getbig girlfriend!


i have staked my claim boobies!

and that shall be your name " boobies"  :)

Ok I will be your long distance "Getbig" girlfriend and I shall be named boobies!!  Do you think we should start a new thread about our unity??? lol that would be funny
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 08, 2007, 08:23:48 PM
  Do you think we should start a new thread about our unity???

with another girl i would NEVER in a million yrs admit this..but in one responce when i said i felt corney ya said to be myself..soo..i'll admit..

i'm actually flattered..  :)
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: Forbidden on January 08, 2007, 11:00:59 PM
with another girl i would NEVER in a million yrs admit this..but in one responce when i said i felt corney ya said to be myself..soo..i'll admit..

i'm actually flattered..  :)

Ok then I think it is the gentlemany thing to do that you announce the "Getbig" engagement lol
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on January 09, 2007, 04:10:38 AM
Toxic

decorum is a socio-cultural construct, a form of sensus communis, and very much differentiated by things as social class and upbringing.
You are practicing decorum that is traditionally english, there's nothing wrong with that offcourse, but it is quite formal.
Considering the socio-cultural context of decorum, it's not just to say that a man that doesn't use such elaborate decorum is less courteous,  that is very much in the eyes of the beholder. Genuine courtesy to me has much more to do with respecting a woman and treating her as equal, those are still very lacking in all aspects of modern society. Decorum is no more then a protocol that is linked to social environment, real courtesy goes deeper imho.

This doesn't mean that proper behaviour isn't important, it is very much, it's a social lubricant. But too little or too much can be seen as rude or overly formal/stifled. It's always context based.

(Can you tell I was raised by my mum?;))
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 09, 2007, 09:00:16 AM
Toxic

decorum is a socio-cultural construct, a form of sensus communis, and very much differentiated by things as social class and upbringing.
You are practicing decorum that is traditionally english, there's nothing wrong with that offcourse, but it is quite formal.
Considering the socio-cultural context of decorum, it's not just to say that a man that doesn't use such elaborate decorum is less courteous,  that is very much in the eyes of the beholder. Genuine courtesy to me has much more to do with respecting a woman and treating her as equal, those are still very lacking in all aspects of modern society. Decorum is no more then a protocol that is linked to social environment, real courtesy goes deeper imho.

This doesn't mean that proper behaviour isn't important, it is very much, it's a social lubricant. But too little or too much can be seen as rude or overly formal/stifled. It's always context based.

(Can you tell I was raised by my mum?;))


you're a good man Sir...

..better than the average man...

..but not a great man yet!

a former close friend used to say that to me...

and i agree with ya..
Title: Re: Proper Decorum...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 09, 2007, 09:01:57 AM
Ok then I think it is the gentlemany thing to do that you announce the "Getbig" engagement lol

It is done me lady!