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Title: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 06, 2007, 11:21:12 AM
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That is flip to caucus with the Republicans and flipping the senate to the republicans--(note for idiots like Beach Bum.)
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on January 06, 2007, 11:30:29 AM
That guy is one ugly son of a bitch.  ;D
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 06, 2007, 11:47:24 AM
That guy is one ugly son of a bitch.  ;D
that too ;D
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on January 06, 2007, 11:49:53 AM
lol
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 06, 2007, 12:05:46 PM
>:(




You'd flip too if the party you were loyal too for 30+ years backstabbed the shit out of you......he's one of the few sane one's of the bunch!!
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: 240 is Back on January 06, 2007, 12:20:36 PM
You'd flip too if the party you were loyal too for 30+ years backstabbed the shit out of you......he's one of the few sane one's of the bunch!!

Mr I, I've been waiting for days, for your analysis of this list of Dem initiatives in the fisrt 100 hours

-no new spending if it adds to the deficit.
-implement the recommendations of the 9/11 commission
-lobbying reform ("break the link" between lobbyists and legislation)
-raise the minimum wage, and allow no pay hike for Congress unless the minimum wage increase is approved.
-ban on privatizing Social Security
-negotiate lower drug prices
-cut student loan interest rates by 50%
-roll back multibillion-dollar subsidies for oil companies
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 06, 2007, 12:25:49 PM
You'd flip too if the party you were loyal too for 30+ years backstabbed the shit out of you......he's one of the few sane one's of the bunch!!
You're missing the big picture, he got elected part in part due to an oath he made, a promise that he would not flip.  many dems may not have voted for him had he not made that campaign promise.  So that is a reconciliation with the voters during the election.  Enough dems voted for him, he kept his office... So now re-evaluate your comments.  There is also all the dems that stayed loyal... He pisses all over them if he flips... He is going to flip and break his word in my opinion...
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Straw Man on January 06, 2007, 06:34:33 PM
I doubt Liberman will become a Republican.   I don't see how that would be any benefit to him.  He's better off as in independent.  I do think that sometime in the next 2 years Cheney will resign and Bush will appoint a new VP (my guess would be McCain)
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: bmacsys on January 06, 2007, 06:55:03 PM
I doubt Liberman will become a Republican.   I don't see how that would be any benefit to him.  He's better off as in independent.  I do think that sometime in the next 2 years Cheney will resign and Bush will appoint a new VP (my guess would be McCain)

Won't Bush be out of office in two years?
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Dos Equis on January 06, 2007, 07:00:50 PM
Yes Bush will be gone. 

How is Lieberman going to "flip" when he was elected as an independent? 
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Straw Man on January 06, 2007, 07:26:18 PM
Won't Bush be out of office in two years?

sometime in the next two years would include from right this very moment until the end of his term
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 06, 2007, 08:04:42 PM
I doubt Liberman will become a Republican.   I don't see how that would be any benefit to him.  He's better off as in independent.  I do think that sometime in the next 2 years Cheney will resign and Bush will appoint a new VP (my guess would be McCain)
He doesn't have to become a republican, all he has to do is caucus with them and that's it... The Senate is gone.
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 06, 2007, 08:05:05 PM
Mr I, I've been waiting for days, for your analysis of this list of Dem initiatives in the fisrt 100 hours

-no new spending if it adds to the deficit.
-implement the recommendations of the 9/11 commission
-lobbying reform ("break the link" between lobbyists and legislation)
-raise the minimum wage, and allow no pay hike for Congress unless the minimum wage increase is approved.
-ban on privatizing Social Security
-negotiate lower drug prices
-cut student loan interest rates by 50%
-roll back multibillion-dollar subsidies for oil companies


Truthfully, i haven't studied the issues enough to give an answer.....but on the privatizing of SS IMO, is a great idea as far as retirement goes, that being said, I would much rather have my money go into an investment account rather than just having a token amount come (right now, it's around $5-600.00 per month for a full SS retirement benefit) each month. SS is only meant to be a supplimental income, I would much rather have a larger return on my money, but I have no plans on ever retiring!
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 06, 2007, 08:05:27 PM
Yes Bush will be gone. 

How is Lieberman going to "flip" when he was elected as an independent? 
Again, all he has to do is caucus with them and the Senate goes to the Republicans.
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 06, 2007, 08:06:56 PM
Mr I, I've been waiting for days, for your analysis of this list of Dem initiatives in the fisrt 100 hours


BTW, so much for their promise of bi-partisanship huh!!
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 06, 2007, 08:11:39 PM
He doesn't have to become a republican, all he has to do is caucus with them and that's it... The Senate is gone.

Sadly he will never become a republican, but with him staying a democrat he MIGHT be able to bring some balance!
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 06, 2007, 08:16:26 PM
BTW, so much for their promise of bi-partisanship huh!!
Right... That would be perfect for you guys.  Then you could fuck all the campaign promises the and mock the dems for not doing what they ran on...  That would be perfect... Why don't you sit back and not get to flipped out over the first hunderd hour goals that the dems ran on... The people voted them in, let them nock out that stuff.  It's not like it's a bunck of extreme liberal issues or something ::)
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 06, 2007, 08:20:50 PM
Right... That would be perfect for you guys.  Then you could f**k all the campaign promises the and mock the dems for not doing what they ran on...  That would be perfect... Why don't you sit back and not get to flipped out over the first hunderd hour goals that the dems ran on... The people voted them in, let them nock out that stuff.  It's not like it's a bunck of extreme liberal issues or something ::)

I said after I calmed down after the elections that I was just going to sit back and watch them self-destruct, don't ask me how, but they will!!
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 06, 2007, 08:30:09 PM
I said after I calmed down after the elections that I was just going to sit back and watch them self-destruct, don't ask me how, but they will!!
Yea, and of course you turds won't do everything possible to coax them near the cliff and push them off when you realize they stepped to close...  ::)
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: gtbro1 on January 06, 2007, 08:35:22 PM
You'd flip too if the party you were loyal too for 30+ years backstabbed the shit out of you......he's one of the few sane one's of the bunch!!

Shut the Fuck up bible pounder.
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: gtbro1 on January 06, 2007, 08:40:37 PM
Sadly he will never become a republican, but with him staying a democrat he MIGHT be able to bring some balance!


Republicans suck.They favor the big corporation's and couldn't give a rat's ass about the blue collar people who actually WORK for a living...Democrats suck.. they want to give all our tax money to lazy bitches with 4 kids by 5 different men who sit at home all day smoking Marlboros and  eating welfare cheese(the best cheese there is). There needs to be some sort of compromise in between the two.
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 06, 2007, 08:40:59 PM
Yea, and of course you turds won't do everything possible to coax them near the cliff and push them off when you realize they stepped to close...  ::)

Are freaking serious???????? Thats what we SHOULD have done but didn't, we SHOULD have played they're own game!!
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on January 06, 2007, 08:41:54 PM

Republicans suck.They favor the big corporation's and couldn't give a rat's ass about the blue collar people who actually WORK for a living...Democrats suck.. they want to give all our tax money to lazy bitches with 4 kids by 5 different men who sit at home all day smoking Marlboros and  eating welfare cheese(the best cheese there is). There needs to be some sort of compromise in between the two.

I'd vote for you.  ;D
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 06, 2007, 08:42:58 PM

Republicans suck.They favor the big corporation's and couldn't give a rat's ass about the blue collar people who actually WORK for a living...Democrats suck.. they want to give all our tax money to lazy bitches with 4 kids by 5 different men who sit at home all day smoking Marlboros and  eating welfare cheese(the best cheese there is). There needs to be some sort of compromise in between the two.

Your right, they both suck....but which party will protect the country better??
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 06, 2007, 08:44:03 PM
I'd vote for you.  ;D

How sweet :-\!!
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 06, 2007, 08:44:03 PM
Are freaking serious???????? Thats what we SHOULD have done but didn't, we SHOULD have played they're own game!!
ahahahhahaha..... have you paid attention to anything!!!!! GET THE HELL OUT OF TOWN.... I HAVE PAID ATTENTION AND YOU ALL REFUSED TO WORK WITH THE DEMS AT ALL FOR ANYTHING...  IF YOU GET NOTHING BUT THE SAME, TOO FUCKING BAD...
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: gtbro1 on January 06, 2007, 08:48:10 PM
Your right, they both suck....but which party will protect the country better??

AT LEAST the democrats keep our Nose where it belongs.....We have no business in Iraq.The troops there are IN NO WAY protecting THIS country.. If you HONESTLY believe in your heart that George Bush's ONLY agenda in IRAQ is to protect America then you are the biggest Fool on the planet.
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: gtbro1 on January 06, 2007, 08:50:59 PM
  I want someone to please explain to me what is BAD about any of these things? I am talking about to the average,middle class American...not some rich business man.

 
-no new spending if it adds to the deficit. 
-implement the recommendations of the 9/11 commission
-lobbying reform ("break the link" between lobbyists and legislation)
-raise the minimum wage, and allow no pay hike for Congress unless the minimum wage increase is approved.
-ban on privatizing Social Security
-negotiate lower drug prices
-cut student loan interest rates by 50%
-roll back multibillion-dollar subsidies for oil companies

 
                   
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 06, 2007, 08:51:16 PM
AT LEAST the democrats keep our Nose where it belongs.....We have no business in Iraq.The troops there are IN NO WAY protecting THIS country.. If you HONESTLY believe in your heart that George Bush's ONLY agenda in IRAQ is to protect America then you are the biggest Fool on the planet.

*SIGH*
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: gtbro1 on January 06, 2007, 08:52:59 PM
*SIGH*


  Good Answer  ::)
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Dos Equis on January 06, 2007, 09:05:57 PM
Again, all he has to do is caucus with them and the Senate goes to the Republicans.

He ran and was elected as an independent.  He can caucus and vote with whichever party he wants.  That wouldn't be a flip.  The Dems already dumped him before the election.     
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: gtbro1 on January 07, 2007, 01:25:23 AM
  Still nobody has explained to me what was bad about any of the things 240 posted that the dems wanted to do. ???
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 07, 2007, 01:39:16 AM
He ran and was elected as an independent.  He can caucus and vote with whichever party he wants.  That wouldn't be a flip.  The Dems already dumped him before the election.     
clown, that's what I was talking about, that's all I was talking about ::)  A flip to caucus with the Republican from the Dems ::)  Yes I can call that a flip.  I wasn't talking about a party flip, if you were paying any attention at all, this is the only flip that has been issue in the media ::)  Just ask if you're lost next time ::)
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: 240 is Back on January 07, 2007, 01:41:49 AM
  Still nobody has explained to me what was bad about any of the things 240 posted that the dems wanted to do. ???


That's because many people hate pelosi cause she's an annoyting twunt. 

But, many of her policies make sense to them.  They don't want to agree with a damn liberal on 6 of her 8 items which their party won't pass, so they stop talking.   Anyone who spends a year dissing pelosi, then agrees with 75% of her initiatives their own party won't pass, is conflicted and self-owned anyway :)
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: bmacsys on January 07, 2007, 07:37:27 AM
sometime in the next two years would include from right this very moment until the end of his term
Thats what I meant. Somebody said within the next two years Cheney will quit. My response was in the next two years the term is up!
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Straw Man on January 07, 2007, 07:57:54 AM
Thats what I meant. Somebody said within the next two years Cheney will quit. My response was in the next two years the term is up!

what's your point?  Obviously this administration only has two years left.  The point of my original post (the one I think you were responding too) was that sometime in the next two years Cheney will step down and Bush will appoint an untainted person as VP who can then pardon Bush/Cheney (should that be necessary).   
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Straw Man on January 07, 2007, 08:10:17 AM
Your right, they both suck....but which party will protect the country better??

based on the current version of the Republican party - the one that allowed 911 to happen,  planned (or didn't) and executed the  "less than successful" campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan (remember Tora Bora), ignored all the generals and war planners and stretched our military to the breaking point.... I'm willing to give the Dems a run at it for a while.   They could suck just as much as the Republicans but then again that's a pretty low bar.
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: 240 is Back on January 07, 2007, 08:26:00 AM
based on the current version of the Republican party - the one that allowed 911 to happen,  planned (or didn't) and executed the  "less than successful" campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan (remember Tora Bora), ignored all the generals and war planners and stretched our military to the breaking point.... I'm willing to give the Dems a run at it for a while.   They could suck just as much as the Republicans but then again that's a pretty low bar.

You make a valid point.

The only thing republicans can brag about is "all the Americans killed since 2001 have been OUTSIDE of America".

Do you want a fooking cookie? 

They look like fools every time they say "it would be worse if the dems were in office".  They're like the boxer with a black eye and an 0-12 record talking shit to the guy who hasn't fought yet. 

Name one success of the Bush war plan.  If your answer is "no domestic attacks", well, that's because we saved the jihadists the trip and just delivered underarmed, underarmored troops to stand on their street corners so they didn't have to buy the plane ticket here.  Thanks, Dubya!
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Straw Man on January 07, 2007, 08:42:26 AM
You make a valid point.

The only thing republicans can brag about is "all the Americans killed since 2001 have been OUTSIDE of America".

Do you want a fooking cookie? 

They look like fools every time they say "it would be worse if the dems were in office".  They're like the boxer with a black eye and an 0-12 record talking shit to the guy who hasn't fought yet. 

Name one success of the Bush war plan.  If your answer is "no domestic attacks", well, that's because we saved the jihadists the trip and just delivered underarmed, underarmored troops to stand on their street corners so they didn't have to buy the plane ticket here.  Thanks, Dubya!


The "we haven't been hit again" defense is specious argument and I wish everytime Cheney says it on TV that the stupid fucking talking head would point this out.   You can see a perfect example of this on the Simpsons when a bear invades Springfield and the town decides to have a bear patrol.  Homer assumes that the bear patrol is keeping the bears away and Lisa points out that she has a magic rock that keeps tigers away (i.e you can't prove it doesn't work right?).  Of course Homer doesn't get  it and he wants to buy Lisa's magic rock. 

Back to the real world.  If one assumes that some group (possibly within our government) was responsible for 9-11 then it get's really creepy when Cheney keeps mentioning we haven't been hit again and/or keeps talking about "mass death" in the US.  I see that as more of a threat than a warning.
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: 240 is Back on January 07, 2007, 08:49:51 AM
Back to the real world.  If one assumes that some group (possibly within our government) was responsible for 9-11 then it get's really creepy when Cheney keeps mentioning we haven't been hit again and/or keeps talking about "mass death" in the US.  I see that as more of a threat than a warning.

Correct.  If you believe the US knew about 9/11 and didn't act, then that means Cheney is saying they could choose not to act again?

if you believe elements of the US Govt orchestrated the attacks, that means Cheney is threatening you.

If you believe 911 was a complete surprise, you really have to ask why Cheney would make that statement, then do nothing to close borders or implement 911 commission recommendations.  If he's concerned enough about a second attack to alert/scare Americans, surely he will pass every single piece of legislation possible to prevent this.  Yet they don't.  Odd...
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Straw Man on January 07, 2007, 09:01:48 AM
well, didn't mean to take this off the original topic... but how about implementing the recomendations of the 9-11 commission. 
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Dos Equis on January 07, 2007, 10:16:18 AM
clown, that's what I was talking about, that's all I was talking about ::)  A flip to caucus with the Republican from the Dems ::)  Yes I can call that a flip.  I wasn't talking about a party flip, if you were paying any attention at all, this is the only flip that has been issue in the media ::)  Just ask if you're lost next time ::)

Per my kid, my response is:   :-X

But I'll add that saying Leiberman will "flip" when he was already dumped by the Dems makes no sense.   :)  (He says, looking over his shoulder.) 
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 07, 2007, 10:43:12 AM
Per my kid, my response is:   :-X

But I'll add that saying Leiberman will "flip" when he was already dumped by the Dems makes no sense.   :)  (He says, looking over his shoulder.) 
Oh well since your genius kid says so ::)
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: a_joker10 on January 07, 2007, 12:00:27 PM
Talk gets you elected.
Actions are what matter.

If the Dems don't follow through on what they say, they will get voted out.
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Dos Equis on January 07, 2007, 01:44:35 PM
Oh well since your genius kid says so ::)

My genius kid says you're stupid and I should engage you.  She is right and I'm trying to listen to her.   ;D
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 07, 2007, 03:30:32 PM
My genius kid says you're stupid and I should engage you.  She is right and I'm trying to listen to her.   ;D
You want to engage me ::)  Why don't you keep your kids out of this shit... It's just disturbing that you blow through these conversations with your little "kid genius" shield ::)  I really couldn't care less about what a juvenile thinks so please just stop... If you're ok with them posting, let them have an account and get cut to pieces, I care not but stop, just stop with the "my kid this my kid that..."  ::) yea yea, I already know your answer, your kid is smarter than me ::) whatever, just stop...
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Dos Equis on January 07, 2007, 03:31:30 PM
You want to engage me ::)  Why don't you keep your kids out of this shit... It's just disturbing that you blow through these conversations with your little "kid genius" shield ::)  I really couldn't care less about what a juvenile thinks so please just stop... If you're ok with them posting, let them have an account and get cut to pieces, I care not but stop, just stop with the "my kid this my kid that..."  ::) yea yea, I already know your answer, your kid is smarter than me ::) whatever, just stop...

 :-X   ::)
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 07, 2007, 03:36:39 PM
:-X   ::)
ahahahaha... reality hurts huh... Serious, stop with the my kid this my kid that garbage, nobody cares you think your kids are superior; welcome to most partents--that you bring it on a board in political fights is sick...
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Dos Equis on January 07, 2007, 03:59:27 PM
ahahahaha... reality hurts huh... Serious, stop with the my kid this my kid that garbage, nobody cares you think your kids are superior; welcome to most partents--that you bring it on a board in political fights is sick...

 :-X ::)
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 07, 2007, 05:20:02 PM
:-X ::)
Why the space between your smilies on your first post vs. no space on this postJackass



Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Dos Equis on January 07, 2007, 05:45:26 PM
Why the space between your smilies on your first post vs. no space on this postJackass


 ::) ::)
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 07, 2007, 05:47:03 PM
based on the current version of the Republican party - the one that allowed 911 to happen.


How can you breath when your head constantly up your ass............you should check with your boy Clinton before you make assnine comments!
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 07, 2007, 05:51:10 PM
Beach, you're not going to goat me with that crap, I just figure you're to stupid to muster a real response.  Clearly you have no words for bringing your kids into online fights... Bad parenting... So by all means, keep crying with your eye roll posts ::)
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Dos Equis on January 07, 2007, 05:52:50 PM
Beach, you're not going to goat me with that crap, I just figure you're to stupid to muster a real response.  Clearly you have no words for bringing your kids into online fights... Bad parenting... So by all means, keep crying with your eye roll posts ::)
::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 07, 2007, 05:57:46 PM
::) ::) ::)

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Title: Re: Prediction: Lieberman will flip before the month is out.
Post by: Straw Man on January 07, 2007, 06:00:18 PM
How can you breath when your head constantly up your ass............you should check with your boy Clinton before you make assnine comments!

do you ever have anything meaningful to contribute?

How about actually refuting something I said instead of acting like a whiny little school girl

I'm sure I'll regret asking this but how exactly is Clinton "my boy"?