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Title: pm q answerd
Post by: gh15 on January 06, 2007, 02:19:14 PM
how do you think a real natural should train to gain maximum mass?

(real natural= never touched steroids or any hormones EVER)

thank you.


3-4 sessions a week,,  1 hour each,, as heavy as possible with good form/ pyramid from lighter to heavier,,change routines and order of exercises every month,,sets should be at the 2-4 per specific excersise,,rep range 6-10 sometimes 4-5 can be good but keep it in general at 6-10,, eating clean in general but enough caloric intake for your lean body mass (that means cheating meal every 5th day or even a cheating day once a week,,where you can eat whatever you want)

keep complex carbs low to moderate 4 days,,then jump it up to high complex carbs for a day ,,,so 4 low-moderate then 1 high carb days then again 4 low moderate then 1 high etc,,

protein should be at 1.25 to 2.5grams per pound of lean muscle mass,,can eat more but never eat less,,

fat should come from olive oil,,nuts,,fish,,penut butter,,,keep it low to moderate at 10-20% of diet,,

--------

natural hormones for the natural athlete:

anavar at 80-100mg/day
lr3igf1 at 60-100mcg/day
m1t
clenbuterol

can use either one or all,,they will bring you up to the natural level you see around now days,,the igf is legal for research,,anavar at 80mg a day will make you look like you were born with good genetics,,and the m1t will act in some like legit testosterone ampole,,

good luck
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: Bluto on January 06, 2007, 02:21:51 PM
or you could train 3 times a week. or 6 times a week. 30 minutes each. or 1,5 hours each. heavy or not heavy. or both. change routines every week, or not. 6-10 reps. or 8-10 reps. or 10-12 reps. maybe 12-15 reps.

hope this helps.
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: ManBearPig... on January 06, 2007, 02:22:13 PM
i took 50mg a day of anavar.  good veininess.
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: gh15 on January 06, 2007, 02:39:01 PM
take the same anavar  at 100-150mg/day by itself! and see what happens,,

lifters here always ask me how to add lean muscle mass,,,try it sometime,,add finaplex and some prop with a mix of var and some dianabol from time to time,,,and you will see this lean muscle mass you all want so much

* i would not do those cycles untill id have a solid foundation and been through the test deca dianaboll for quite sometime. the above cycle is for guys that already hold 200lb at 12% or less on their frame.
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: DK II on January 06, 2007, 03:05:06 PM
it seems i cannot understand you anymore.

"natural" cycles with steroids? "natural" cycles with anavar only for those that did testosterone deca dianabol?  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: TheAnimal on January 06, 2007, 03:07:53 PM
awesome but what do these carbo cycles achieve?
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: gtbro1 on January 06, 2007, 04:31:31 PM
 hahahaha so in other words,the BEST way for a natural to train,is to start  taking hormones.
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: The Squadfather on January 06, 2007, 04:32:20 PM
hahahaha so in other words,the BEST way for a natural to train,is to start  taking hormones.
hahahahaha, you've gotta love GH's approach, take the easy way and be a little bitch.
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: SteelePegasus on January 06, 2007, 05:04:53 PM
ummmm..why wouldn't someone PM GH15 about training naturally?


Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: gtbro1 on January 06, 2007, 05:10:50 PM
ummmm..why wouldn't someone PM GH15 about training naturally?




   So he would tell them it was ok for them to use gear.
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: amoney86 on January 06, 2007, 05:30:08 PM
his advice seems pretty legit for a natural, not sure where he was going with the roid info?
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: Beth Chapman on January 06, 2007, 05:36:19 PM
Is it safe to be posting about illegal products here? 

With a simple check, it is very easy to find where you are posting from. 
Yes, even with AOL, and even with high tech "IP hiders."
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: gtbro1 on January 06, 2007, 05:38:39 PM
Is it safe to be posting about illegal products here? 

With a simple check, it is very easy to find where you are posting from. 
Yes, even with AOL, and even with high tech "IP hiders."


You can't see IP'S here. Unless maybe you are law enforcement then who knows.
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: whitewidow on January 06, 2007, 10:40:42 PM

3-4 sessions a week,,  1 hour each,, as heavy as possible with good form/ pyramid from lighter to heavier,,change routines and order of exercises every month,,sets should be at the 2-4 per specific excersise,,rep range 6-10 sometimes 4-5 can be good but keep it in general at 6-10,, eating clean in general but enough caloric intake for your lean body mass (that means cheating meal every 5th day or even a cheating day once a week,,where you can eat whatever you want)

keep complex carbs low to moderate 4 days,,then jump it up to high complex carbs for a day ,,,so 4 low-moderate then 1 high carb days then again 4 low moderate then 1 high etc,,

protein should be at 1.25 to 2.5grams per pound of lean muscle mass,,can eat more but never eat less,,

fat should come from olive oil,,nuts,,fish,,penut butter,,,keep it low to moderate at 10-20% of diet,,

--------

natural hormones for the natural athlete:

anavar at 80-100mg/day
lr3igf1 at 60-100mcg/day
m1t
clenbuterol

can use either one or all,,they will bring you up to the natural level you see around now days,,the igf is legal for research,,anavar at 80mg a day will make you look like you were born with good genetics,,and the m1t will act in some like legit testosterone ampole,,

good luck


LOL- M1T is not a natural hormone that shit is strong. anavar is a mild steroid but still a steroid nothing natural about that.
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: The True Adonis on January 06, 2007, 10:47:16 PM
i took 50mg a day of anavar.  good veininess.

Why?
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: whitewidow on January 06, 2007, 11:27:27 PM
Why?

maybe he wanted to see what it would do.
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: Army of One on January 06, 2007, 11:31:24 PM
Is it safe to be posting about illegal products here? 

With a simple check, it is very easy to find where you are posting from. 
Yes, even with AOL, and even with high tech "IP hiders."

NOT TRUE, Maybe a 100 mile radius but unless you have access to the isps database on whose name is assigned to what IP then you are talking out your ass.
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 06, 2007, 11:36:54 PM
For Beth Chapman..........it's not illegal if you have a script!











Hope this helps!
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: whitewidow on January 06, 2007, 11:42:52 PM
id do beth chapman.  ;D
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: gtbro1 on January 06, 2007, 11:45:57 PM
For Beth Chapman..........it's not illegal if you have a script!











Hope this helps!


   Who gets a script for anything other than test? Serious question not sarcastic...what is anavar prescribed for?
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 07, 2007, 12:00:41 AM

   Who gets a script for anything other than test? Serious question not sarcastic...what is anavar prescribed for?

Helps with maintaining or gaining strength with out water retention or aromitizing and in older people, especially women helps prevent osteoporosis!
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: kh300 on January 07, 2007, 12:13:23 AM
Is it safe to be posting about illegal products here? 

With a simple check, it is very easy to find where you are posting from. 
Yes, even with AOL, and even with high tech "IP hiders."

you are correct,, its not simple but it can be done,,, plenty of terrorists thought there blockers were working too- thats how we catch most of those guys,, they have to communicate through emails and we track them down
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: DK II on January 07, 2007, 01:39:28 AM
Is it safe to be posting about illegal products here? 

With a simple check, it is very easy to find where you are posting from. 
Yes, even with AOL, and even with high tech "IP hiders."

Even if.
Writing about shit on the internet is not illegal.
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: gtbro1 on January 07, 2007, 01:50:37 AM
Even if.
Writing about shit on the internet is not illegal.

   Very True...besides..it's not like anyone ever lies on the internet.
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: DK II on January 07, 2007, 01:55:37 AM
   Very True...besides..it's not like anyone ever lies on the internet.

Nobody does.  ::)
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: slaveboy1980 on January 07, 2007, 11:19:51 AM

3-4 sessions a week,,  1 hour each,, as heavy as possible with good form/ pyramid from lighter to heavier,,change routines and order of exercises every month,,sets should be at the 2-4 per specific excersise,,rep range 6-10 sometimes 4-5 can be good but keep it in general at 6-10,, eating clean in general but enough caloric intake for your lean body mass (that means cheating meal every 5th day or even a cheating day once a week,,where you can eat whatever you want)

keep complex carbs low to moderate 4 days,,then jump it up to high complex carbs for a day ,,,so 4 low-moderate then 1 high carb days then again 4 low moderate then 1 high etc,,

protein should be at 1.25 to 2.5grams per pound of lean muscle mass,,can eat more but never eat less,,

fat should come from olive oil,,nuts,,fish,,penut butter,,,keep it low to moderate at 10-20% of diet,,

--------

natural hormones for the natural athlete:

anavar at 80-100mg/day
lr3igf1 at 60-100mcg/day
m1t
clenbuterol

can use either one or all,,they will bring you up to the natural level you see around now days,,the igf is legal for research,,anavar at 80mg a day will make you look like you were born with good genetics,,and the m1t will act in some like legit testosterone ampole,,

good luck


lol guys, I know gh15 likes "hormonization" but I just wanted his opinion on natural training...altho i think he misunderstood me haha..as i dont think taking clen, anavar, lr3igf1 etc qualiafies you as a natural. what i meant with natural is never taken anything more than creatin and protein powder+food..and never will take anything more.
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: SteelePegasus on January 07, 2007, 11:26:25 AM
lol guys, I know gh15 likes "hormonization" but I just wanted his opinion on natural training...altho i think he misunderstood me haha..as i dont think taking clen, anavar, lr3igf1 etc qualiafies you as a natural. what i meant with natural is never taken anything more than creatin and protein powder+food..and never will take anything more.

and you asked the biggest steroid advisor on getbig about training naturally?
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: slaveboy1980 on January 07, 2007, 11:27:36 AM
and you asked the biggest steroid advisor on getbig about training naturally?

yup called irony
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: gtbro1 on January 07, 2007, 01:28:09 PM
and you asked the biggest steroid advisor on getbig about training naturally?


   You have to love the attitude of the pro bbers(if he is one) .To them,natural means ONLY using anavar and other mild drugs.
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: DK II on January 07, 2007, 11:57:00 PM

   You have to love the attitude of the pro bbers(if he is one) .To them,natural means ONLY using anavar and other mild drugs.

haha, isn't it great?
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: jonno gb on January 08, 2007, 08:42:47 AM
Yeah,great advice ::) If you want to compete in tested shows do not take these recommended 'products' as they are all banned.
Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: Bast000 on January 09, 2007, 06:42:22 PM
take the same anavar  at 100-150mg/day by itself! and see what happens,,

lifters here always ask me how to add lean muscle mass,,,try it sometime,,add finaplex and some prop with a mix of var and some dianabol from time to time,,,and you will see this lean muscle mass you all want so much

* i would not do those cycles untill id have a solid foundation and been through the test deca dianaboll for quite sometime. the above cycle is for guys that already hold 200lb at 12% or less on their frame.

if you take 1000mg avanar a day will you make 10 times the gains  ???

Title: Re: pm q answerd
Post by: Bast000 on January 09, 2007, 06:43:14 PM
how much gh can i take without dying? i want to be right at the limit so i can grow a lot and be alive.