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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: Cleanest Natural on January 09, 2007, 03:02:38 AM
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does anyone have any ideea what a bulking cycle looks like?...no speculations please...just for the infos sake not to emulate...god forbid
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Mega Mass 4000, Creatine, GLutamine....lots of food.
P.S. You don't honestly expect him to give anyone an answer any different than that,do you?
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Mega Mass 4000, Creatine, GLutamine....lots of food.
P.S. You don't honestly expect him to give anyone an answer any different than that,do you?
LOL, ya dont you know that he's natural?
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does anyone have any ideea what a bulking cycle looks like?...no speculations please...just for the infos sake not to emulate...god forbid
A lot of test, a lot of gh and slin, dbol like tic-tacs and lot of everything else...daily.
The only way to know the specifics would be to hear it straight from the horses mouth, and unless you are Chad Nichols or Brian Dobson, forget about it.
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A lot of test, a lot of gh and slin, dbol like tic-tacs and lot of everything else...daily.
The only way to know the specifics would be to hear it straight from the horses mouth, and unless you are Chad Nichols or Brian Dobson, forget about it.
exactly there are alot of speculations but only way to know the truth is too here it from the man himself.
Brian Dobson is also a great chemist and might even make him some shit who knows. From what i hear he uses alot of parabolon and prefers nandrolone phenylprop. I did not here this directly from the man so its speculation but it came from good source. even if you had his exact cycle probably would not work for everybody.
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U guys especially here on the steroid bord miss the point completely. I wanna know. just that. NOONE is trying to emulate anything...it's just like saying that after seeing ronnie bench ...i'll put 500 on the bar and let it drop on my chest.
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He subcribes to the Hogan growth cycle. Prayers and vitamins.
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Dunno about Ronnie's, but I have one of Dorian's cycles saved here and it's SCARY.
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Dunno about Ronnie's, but I have one of Dorian's cycles saved here and it's SCARY.
i think i got that one...when he pyramids down from 4000 test every week
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Dunno about Ronnie's, but I have one of Dorian's cycles saved here and it's SCARY.
post it, i'd love to see that.
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yates cycle
week 1----2000mg test cyp---150mg dbol/a day
week 2 ----3000mg test cyp---200mg dbol/a day
week 3-----4000mg test cyp---300mg dbol/day
week 4 -----5000mg test cyp---no dbol
week 5------3000mg test susp---200mg anadrol
week 6------4000mg test susp---300mg anadrol
week 7-------4000mg test susp---400mg anadrol
week 9-------10,000 iu hcg--800mg clomid
week10-------20,000iu hcg--1000mg clomid
week 11------4000mg test prop---100mg halotestin
week 12------4000mg test prop----200mg hal0
weel 13-------5000mg test prop----300mg halo
week 14-------3000mg test sus-----300mg halo----1000mg masterone
week 15-------4000mg test sus-----400mg halo----1000mg masterone
weekl 16-------10,000iu hcg---1000mg clomid
week 17--------20,000iu hcg---2000mg clomid
week 18--------30 ,000iu hcg---3000mg clomid
week 20---------2500mg test susp---1000mg of fina---
weel 21----------3500mg test susp--1500mg of fina
week 22----------4500mg test susp--20oomg of fina
week 23 ----------5000mg test susp---2500mg of fina
week 24 ----------1500mg test prop-----500mg anadrol
week 25-----------2500mg test prop-----500mg anadrol
week 26 -----------3500 mg test prop----300mg anadrol---1000mg masterone/day
week 27------------1500mg test susp-----200mg anadrol---200mg winng/day
week 29------------1500 mg test susp-----200mg anadrol---200 mg winny/day
week 30 ------------1500mg test susp------100mg anadrol---300mg winny/day
hgh throughout ranging from 10ius a day all the way up till 24iu a day
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:o whoa.
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how can you shoot that much in a week :o. I mean can you shot that many cc's a week ???.
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What a mild cycle... How does he expect to get results from that.. He needs to up the dosage!
It's amazing the fucker is still alive!
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What a mild cycle... How does he expect to get results from that.. He needs to up the dosage!
It's amazing the fucker is still alive!
up the dosage hahaha!
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up the dosage hahaha!
Let me just quote a very wise buddy of mine who (ironically) posts on here under the name Upthedosage: "It's always good to take the LEAST amount possible to make positive gains to your physique."
To think that this was the least amount Yates needed is scary.
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Let me just quote a very wise buddy of mine who (ironically) posts on here under the name Upthedosage: "It's always good to take the LEAST amount possible to make positive gains to your physique."
To think that this was the least amount Yates needed is scary.
You are correct BUT he must play on a level field. ALL pros cycles are this much volume...trust me.
you have to keep up with the other players and to do that you must "push the envelope"...so to speak.
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"Push the envelope?" Don't you mean "crap out your internal organs for, at best, a trophy and some cash?"
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"Push the envelope?" Don't you mean "crap out your internal organs for, at best, a trophy and some cash?"
That is exactly what i meant!
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yates cycle
week 1----2000mg test cyp---150mg dbol/a day
week 2 ----3000mg test cyp---200mg dbol/a day
week 3-----4000mg test cyp---300mg dbol/day
week 4 -----5000mg test cyp---no dbol
week 5------3000mg test susp---200mg anadrol
week 6------4000mg test susp---300mg anadrol
week 7-------4000mg test susp---400mg anadrol
week 9-------10,000 iu hcg--800mg clomid
week10-------20,000iu hcg--1000mg clomid
week 11------4000mg test prop---100mg halotestin
week 12------4000mg test prop----200mg hal0
weel 13-------5000mg test prop----300mg halo
week 14-------3000mg test sus-----300mg halo----1000mg masterone
week 15-------4000mg test sus-----400mg halo----1000mg masterone
weekl 16-------10,000iu hcg---1000mg clomid
week 17--------20,000iu hcg---2000mg clomid
week 18--------30 ,000iu hcg---3000mg clomid
week 20---------2500mg test susp---1000mg of fina---
weel 21----------3500mg test susp--1500mg of fina
week 22----------4500mg test susp--20oomg of fina
week 23 ----------5000mg test susp---2500mg of fina
week 24 ----------1500mg test prop-----500mg anadrol
week 25-----------2500mg test prop-----500mg anadrol
week 26 -----------3500 mg test prop----300mg anadrol---1000mg masterone/day
week 27------------1500mg test susp-----200mg anadrol---200mg winng/day
week 29------------1500 mg test susp-----200mg anadrol---200 mg winny/day
week 30 ------------1500mg test susp------100mg anadrol---300mg winny/day
hgh throughout ranging from 10ius a day all the way up till 24iu a day
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Yea, that's exactly the same one I got.. crazy dosages man.. esp. some of the compounds like suspension, anadrol and winny.. damn!
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he wont live a long healthy life thats for sure
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Yea, that's exactly the same one I got.. crazy dosages man.. esp. some of the compounds like suspension, anadrol and winny.. damn!
400mg HALO!!!
Damn, i felt insane on 40mg!!!
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Yea, that's exactly the same one I got.. crazy dosages man.. esp. some of the compounds like suspension, anadrol and winny.. damn!
Yeah that cycle is tiny!!! Theres room for LOTS more! :D
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Yeah that cycle is tiny!!! Theres room for LOTS more! :D
Trev, isn't your cycle made up of pretty much the same dosages?!
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Trev, isn't your cycle made up of pretty much the same dosages?!
Im slinging pretty much double the dosage and running time! i wouldn't waste my time half assing it, gotta get'er done right off the bat right? haha.
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i have a hard time believeing someone would take 10 Anadrol a day, that's just crazy and what 30 d bol's a day? hahahahahahaha, what a nutcase.
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plus nobody uses that much of a water based product like Test Suspension, i have my doubts about this cycle, where did you guys get this from?
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plus nobody uses that much of a water based product like Test Suspension, i have my doubts about this cycle, where did you guys get this from?
I don't know where the cycle is from but it has been posted from time to time.
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yates cycle
week 1----2000mg test cyp---150mg dbol/a day
week 2 ----3000mg test cyp---200mg dbol/a day
week 3-----4000mg test cyp---300mg dbol/day
week 4 -----5000mg test cyp---no dbol
week 5------3000mg test susp---200mg anadrol
week 6------4000mg test susp---300mg anadrol
week 7-------4000mg test susp---400mg anadrol
week 9-------10,000 iu hcg--800mg clomid
week10-------20,000iu hcg--1000mg clomid
week 11------4000mg test prop---100mg halotestin
week 12------4000mg test prop----200mg hal0
weel 13-------5000mg test prop----300mg halo
week 14-------3000mg test sus-----300mg halo----1000mg masterone
week 15-------4000mg test sus-----400mg halo----1000mg masterone
weekl 16-------10,000iu hcg---1000mg clomid
week 17--------20,000iu hcg---2000mg clomid
week 18--------30 ,000iu hcg---3000mg clomid
week 20---------2500mg test susp---1000mg of fina---
weel 21----------3500mg test susp--1500mg of fina
week 22----------4500mg test susp--20oomg of fina
week 23 ----------5000mg test susp---2500mg of fina
week 24 ----------1500mg test prop-----500mg anadrol
week 25-----------2500mg test prop-----500mg anadrol
week 26 -----------3500 mg test prop----300mg anadrol---1000mg masterone/day
week 27------------1500mg test susp-----200mg anadrol---200mg winng/day
week 29------------1500 mg test susp-----200mg anadrol---200 mg winny/day
week 30 ------------1500mg test susp------100mg anadrol---300mg winny/day
hgh throughout ranging from 10ius a day all the way up till 24iu a day
I'm getting a nosebleed just looking at the amounts of all those orals, is that fucking serious??? how could you take those amounts without killing over, i feel like sucha pussy taking 400 mg test and 400 mg eq now lolololol. Too bad never be able to afford more than a week or two's worth of that cycle
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I'm getting a nosebleed just looking at the amounts of all those orals, is that fucking serious??? how could you take those amounts without killing over, i feel like sucha pussy taking 400 mg test and 400 mg eq now lolololol. Too bad never be able to afford more than a week or two's worth of that cycle
you gotta step up son! nah im playing, thats crazy! but whats sad is i belive it.
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I think at that point (this cycle) Doz's body had stopped responding to sane/mortal levels of androgens, I do think if you're crazy enough it is possible to build up to those levels.
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Does anyone know what antiestrogen he was taking and in what amounts???
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that cycle is probably all bullshit. Test suspension is never dosed at more than 100mg per ml. so you would have to be plugging huge shots daily. and with those orals combined you would be throwing up.
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i'm starting to understand why is a bad ideea to post yates, colemans cycles...first off there are doubters...he can't take this , that...etc...then there are those who don't get the fact that yates was cycling for a few good years until he got to something like this...also let's not forget he was one of the first to really push the envelope .
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I think its a hype that pros take excessive amounts. Some might do, yeah. But remember, these guys originally had geat genes and stamina. Plus, most of them looked like proper bbers at like 15 already. Just search for Lee's teenage pic. So, their patue is a different story to your average gym rat's platue. Thats why it might be same basic cycles but on their bodies it produces better results. Dunno, just guessing. Arnie was pretty impressive and massive for his time and from what we hear he didnt take that much. Slin and hgh weren't used then, and d-bols abd winny were the main shit.
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i'm starting to understand why is a bad ideea to post yates, colemans cycles...first off there are doubters...he can't take this , that...etc...then there are those who don't get the fact that yates was cycling for a few good years until he got to something like this...also let's not forget he was one of the first to really push the envelope .
well the problem I have with it is that test suspension is dose at 100mg per ml. and its kind of shitty to shoot. I have a hard time believeing he was doing 40 shots of it per week. I mean you could draw up more than 100mg you could shoot 2ml and that would be 200mg per shot then that would only be 20 shots per week. its possible but I personally wouldnt buy it unless I heard it directly from the man. if he really was doing that much hes retarded he probably could have used alot less and looked just as good.
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Bullshit,untill Dorian comes out and says thats exactly what he took it will remain bullshit in my eyes.
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Bullshit,untill Dorian comes out and says thats exactly what he took it will remain bullshit in my eyes.
not only your statement is retarded but do you honestly think anyone gives a shit about proving anything to you?...take it as it is or leave it.
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I see a lot of discussion here about if this is what Dorian took during his Mr.O years. I have to say that I know Dorian personally and not from just one meeting. Cut the listed dosages approximately tree times and you will be near something more reasonable for his approach towards steroids and other drugs.
Some of you like to think that pros use huge amound of drugs , some think opposite. The truth is that every person is individual and only he knows what exactly he is doing. The one thing that I can say about the so called "Dorian cycle" is that is much overdosed.
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Does anyone know what antiestrogen he was taking and in what amounts???
I don't know what kind...but I bet the dosage read "shitload"
I agree with sarcasm about the suspension...that shit is in and out very quickly..why not just stay on the cyp? And that is what?..like a 7 month cycle!! That's nuts....not that I find that hard to believe because I bet many are on year round.
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not only your statement is retarded but do you honestly think anyone gives a shit about proving anything to you?...take it as it is or leave it.
this coming from a dude who has what appears to be 13 inch arms who looks like he's never touched a weight in his life.
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From what I remember, that particular cycle (Yates') was posted by his old training partner Leroy a few years ago in some underground mag (in print) and it found it's way onto the boards, being friends with Matt Duval, Mike Aswedu and a few other local bodybuilders (aside from Duvall) I can say with certainty that those dosages are pretty acurate. All the pro's told me that most pro cycles start at around 2000mg of test (alone) a week and go up from there..
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From what I remember, that particular cycle (Yates') was posted by his old training partner Leroy a few years ago in some underground mag (in print) and it found it's way onto the boards, being friends with Matt Duval, Mike Aswedu and a few other local bodybuilders (aside from Duvall) I can say with certainty that those dosages are pretty acurate. All the pro's told me that most pro cycles start at around 2000mg of test (alone) a week and go up from there..
You are correct!
i've seen it posted 1000 times! i just did a search on here and found it.
i have personally seen a pro's "black book" and it was very similar to that cycle but with less orals.
Take it for what it's worth but it is pretty accurate. i have a friend who takes 3000mg test a week with LOADS of other compounds YEAR ROUND, he's taken 200mg Drol a day for 8 months staight before. he's a big bastard.
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i've heard a pro tell my friend he spent 28k on a "contest" prep cycle for the olympia a few years ago.
There are gym rats who run 4000mg a week...some guys on SSB forum run cycles 75% as large as this one.
Pro bodybuilders take insane amounts...PERIOD! some of them inject 4-5 times every day!
Believe what you want...i only posted it because it was request.
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That's the thing most people don't want to believe but it's true, esp. if you've been going non stop for a year or two, your body builds tolerance. You can't be taking 750mg of test a week for 2 years and expect the same results as when you started. Law of diminishing returns
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I rest my case
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Someone should try posting that on Mayhem. They would get torn apart. Within minutes, ten people would have posted to say: "No, pros don't take that much, you will be surprised how little juice pros use" or stuff along those lines...
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not only your statement is retarded but do you honestly think anyone gives a shit about proving anything to you?...take it as it is or leave it.
Its bullshit,and you are deluded,idiot ::)
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I rest my case
Sorry bro, but you obviously have no idea.
PROFESSIONAL Bodybuilding is all drugs...i hate to quote TA but he is correct. genetics determine muscle shape not muscle size AT THE PRO LEVEL.
Have you seen arnold after he came off for a year? he looked like a normal natural who had been training 10 years. no cuts, no huge chest and small arms. arnold took really large amounts of gear bro, so did franco but they didn't use test until the very end of their careers. after arnold recovered from a broken leg he gained over 35 pounds and got leaner in 8 months! genetic? hell no.
i've SEEN proof that pro's take INSANE amounts of gear with my own eyes.
ALL pro's take high amounts, genetics can only do so much. it's like those twats on mayhem that say ronnie was natural when he turned bro...complete ignorance.
i'm friends with top level amatuer bodybuilders who used to purchase gear from a well known pro. when they asked for his advice about cycling gear they almost fainted at the answer. he said the "starting point" for test is 2500mg a week, then you ramp up over the years, never even mentioned PCT and this was 5 years ago. shit, gregg valvalino was using over 3000mg a week and he looked decent, before the oil bags.
I CHALLENGE EVERYONE TO PROVE ME WRONG WITH EVIDENCE.
IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE ME SIMPLY DON'T RESPOND, I WILL NOT ARGUE WHAT IS A KNOWN FACT.
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Bullshit,untill Dorian comes out and says thats exactly what he took it will remain bullshit in my eyes.
He did...
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He did...
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Link please ?
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Gregg Valentino has said in the past that hes "last cycle" lasted 4 years! He said that awhile back in MD, i also recall that Brian Dobson has said that Ronnie was "natural" when he turned PRO. If you ask me i would believe that Valentino stayed ON for years, but thereīs no way Ronnie was NATURAL when he turned PRO. Cīmon that insults our intelligence, BIG TIME!
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the cyp dosages are reasonable- but no way im buying he was plugging 4,000mg of suspension a week. if he was hes a fckn beast!
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I CHALLENGE EVERYONE TO PROVE ME WRONG WITH EVIDENCE.
IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE ME SIMPLY DON'T RESPOND, I WILL NOT ARGUE WHAT IS A KNOWN FACT.
no bro, I'm convinced...really, thats why I said I rest my case
I had no idea
I honestly thought pros use similar cycles that we do here, but due to better genes, stamina, and time spent training they get what they get. I just thought maybe used longer term or higher mix of compounds.
But I see the point. We see pros in the nineties being so much more freakier and monstrous than those in 70's and 80's. Genetics doesnt evolve in such short time frame, so the answer is straight forward.
Thanks for clarification, overload. I'm not enlightened! :)
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no bro, I'm convinced...really, thats why I said I rest my case
I had no idea
I honestly thought pros use similar cycles that we do here, but due to better genes, stamina, and time spent training they get what they get. I just thought maybe used longer term or higher mix of compounds.
But I see the point. We see pros in the nineties being so much more freakier and monstrous than those in 70's and 80's. Genetics doesnt evolve in such short time frame, so the answer is straight forward.
Thanks for clarification, overload. I'm not enlightened! :)
i misunderstood your posts...you are correct about how the men are getting much bigger and more ripped due to better drugs.
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Gentlemen, i speak the truth. this cycle may not be EXACTLY what he ran but i know ALOT of pro's cycle similar to that. genetics play a big roll but at the pro level it's mainly drugs to get that BIG and RIPPED. shape and symmetry is genetic and years of proper training.
It's fine if you guys don't believe it...
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"not" should read "now"
typo
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yates cycle
week 1----2000mg test cyp---150mg dbol/a day
week 2 ----3000mg test cyp---200mg dbol/a day
week 3-----4000mg test cyp---300mg dbol/day
week 4 -----5000mg test cyp---no dbol
week 5------3000mg test susp---200mg anadrol
week 6------4000mg test susp---300mg anadrol
week 7-------4000mg test susp---400mg anadrol
week 9-------10,000 iu hcg--800mg clomid
week10-------20,000iu hcg--1000mg clomid
week 11------4000mg test prop---100mg halotestin
week 12------4000mg test prop----200mg hal0
weel 13-------5000mg test prop----300mg halo
week 14-------3000mg test sus-----300mg halo----1000mg masterone
week 15-------4000mg test sus-----400mg halo----1000mg masterone
weekl 16-------10,000iu hcg---1000mg clomid
week 17--------20,000iu hcg---2000mg clomid
week 18--------30 ,000iu hcg---3000mg clomid
week 20---------2500mg test susp---1000mg of fina---
weel 21----------3500mg test susp--1500mg of fina
week 22----------4500mg test susp--20oomg of fina
week 23 ----------5000mg test susp---2500mg of fina
week 24 ----------1500mg test prop-----500mg anadrol
week 25-----------2500mg test prop-----500mg anadrol
week 26 -----------3500 mg test prop----300mg anadrol---1000mg masterone/day
week 27------------1500mg test susp-----200mg anadrol---200mg winng/day
week 29------------1500 mg test susp-----200mg anadrol---200 mg winny/day
week 30 ------------1500mg test susp------100mg anadrol---300mg winny/day
hgh throughout ranging from 10ius a day all the way up till 24iu a day
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Indeed the doses are crazy. But I think its what I'll use when I'm 50!! Wont give a shit then, we'll have all muscle maturity and experience by then, have one kid already, so why fuk not! ;D
Think I'll get freaky results at 50??
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Indeed the doses are crazy. But I think its what I'll use when I'm 50!! Wont give a shit then, we'll have all muscle maturity and experience by then, have one kid already, so why f**k not! ;D
Think I'll get freaky results at 50??
Try it,Jack Youngblood did.
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Funny how no pros will chime in on this thread. They are such cowards when it comes down to it. They would love to see discusssions like this just go away.
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I , in the past only went up to 1000 mgs of test a week. This cycle I am on 3000 mgs a week of sustanon, and the difference is tremendous in the way I am growing and the way I feel all around.
I am also doing a measly 300 mgs of tren4 weeks on 5 weeks off , I thought that was alot.
The wierd thing is , I am not getting the great sex drive I normally get!
I wonder why ?
I am also taking 50mg a day of proviron hoping to combat water, and keep me feeling normal.
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the proviron alone should make u awalking erection...if i think of 3 g of test on top of that...and u say not the same sex drive..i'd check into that...my 2 cents