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Title: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 12, 2007, 12:05:10 PM
Ha.  first he calls out 240 in his MD article and now he is melting down after a 2 eyar hiatus on getbig.  This site is getting to him and you guys are all to blame.
Title: Re: Getbig getting to Kamali
Post by: DK II on January 12, 2007, 12:06:50 PM
Ha.  first he calls out 240 in his MD article and now he is melting down after a 2 eyar hiatus on getbig.  This site is getting to him and you guys are all to blame.

GetBig hits Kamali right on the head, just like Mario does!!
Title: Re: Getbig getting to Kamali
Post by: Robert the Bruce on January 12, 2007, 12:12:30 PM
so all you can do is post stupid pics of king, cos you wish you were him...oh yeah what a man you are, your mom would be very proud of you
Title: Re: Getbig getting to Kamali
Post by: Cap on January 12, 2007, 12:13:38 PM
so all you can do is post stupid pics of king, cos you wish you were him...oh yeah what a man you are, your mom would be very proud of you
Kamali, thy gimmick is Robert the Bruce and thy insecurity shows, tool.
Title: Re: Getbig getting to Kamali
Post by: Robert the Bruce on January 12, 2007, 12:15:34 PM
i'm not kamali and ron can check the IPs to check if you want proof
Title: Re: Getbig getting to Kamali
Post by: Dingleberry on January 12, 2007, 12:16:22 PM
i'm not kamali and ron can check the IPs to check if you want proof

Hi King's life-partner.
Title: Re: Getbig getting to Kamali
Post by: DK II on January 12, 2007, 12:17:05 PM
so all you can do is post stupid pics of king, cos you wish you were him...oh yeah what a man you are, your mom would be very proud of you

haahaa, wish to be Kamali?? Wish to be a losing professional bodybuilder ruining my health and looks, calling myself "King" because i'm ashamed because my real name is a girl's name?? Wish to be as dumb as Kamali, working at McDonald's?
haha, you have serious issues, Kamali.

Now delete your account.

Title: Re: Getbig getting to Kamali
Post by: Cap on January 12, 2007, 12:17:18 PM
i'm not kamali and ron can check the IPs to check if you want proof
That means nothing. Proxys work very well idiot.
Title: Re: Getbig getting to Kamali
Post by: Board_SHERIF on January 12, 2007, 12:17:41 PM
i'm not kamali and ron can check the IPs to check if you want proof

King's personal "fluffer"  :-*
Title: Re: Getbig getting to Kamali
Post by: sandycoosworth on January 12, 2007, 12:18:04 PM
why is he melting down??

is the board knowning that his bride is fucking around on him really such a bad thing


.


.



i mean its not like we told everyone about his colorful gay for pay begennings in bodybuilding ;D
Title: Re: Getbig getting to Kamali
Post by: DK II on January 12, 2007, 12:27:36 PM
why is he melting down??

is the board knowning that his bride is fucking around on him really such a bad thing

i mean its not like we told everyone about his colorful gay for pay begennings in bodybuilding ;D

hhaaa. yes.

Title: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Lift Studios on January 12, 2007, 02:24:11 PM
Just to clear the air for everyone, since this seems to be the topic of the day. King stated, "Isaac took down my site due to a difference of opinion and within an hour we settled the matter for good. By stating "lack of payment" Isaac crossed the line and he knows it. But that's neither here nor there."

It wasn't a difference of opinion, it was in fact due to lack of payment. I'm not here to get into a pissing match with King, we've gone into that already. I won't go into the details but King was alerted of what would show up on his web site if I was not paid, considering I was more then understanding as the site was completed 8 months ago. I haven't said anything untrue or inappropriate. Bottom line, I received my payment and his site was restored.

Isaac
LIFT STUDIOS
http://www.liftstudios.com (http://www.liftstudios.com)
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: The Squadfather on January 12, 2007, 02:25:37 PM
how much money did his parents give you?
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: HalloweenMan on January 12, 2007, 02:26:47 PM
HAHA, you used the word straight in the same sentence as Kamali.  monster oxymoron!
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Mr. Michael Moore on January 12, 2007, 02:27:04 PM
how much money did his parents give you?

LOL!!!
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on January 12, 2007, 02:28:17 PM
I've been off the boards for nearly 2 years now and I see that nothing has changed. My site goes down and suddenly there are 7 threads about me... You guys just keep the King Kamali machine going and going... Thank you all for that. Isaac took down my site due to a difference of opinion and within an hour we settled the matter for good. By stating "lack of payment" Isaac crossed the line and he knows it. But that's neither here nor there.

I don't think Sherry completely agrees with you but considering how factual his statement of being away from here for 2 years is I wouldn't put too much faith in what he says being the truth.
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: HalloweenMan on January 12, 2007, 02:31:03 PM
if he has really "been off the board..." for so long, then how did he know there were posts about him when his site went down???????????   typical bodybuilding honesty  ::)
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: davidpaul on January 12, 2007, 02:34:22 PM
Lift thanks for keeping it real brother.

Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: sandycoosworth on January 12, 2007, 02:42:00 PM
this doesnt really matter






king can find some fag schmoe to pay him 300$ to jerkoff in his posing trunks













and then he can get 240 to make him a new site
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Playboy on January 12, 2007, 02:47:06 PM
if he has really "been off the board..." for so long, then how did he know there were posts about him when his site went down???????????   typical bodybuilding honesty  ::)
A very good point.

PB
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Bluto on January 12, 2007, 02:49:55 PM
If he would've picked 240 none of this would've happen. That guy is cheap!
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: sandycoosworth on January 12, 2007, 02:51:03 PM
chrisghmoliveira@uol.com.br

im gonna find your family and fuck with them bro :)
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: davidpaul on January 12, 2007, 02:52:46 PM
chrisghmoliveira@uol.com.br

im gonna find your family and f**k with them bro :)

lol.
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Mr. Michael Moore on January 12, 2007, 02:54:09 PM
chrisghmoliveira@uol.com.br

im gonna find your family and f**k with them bro :)

Welcome to brazil, if you have the balls to get down here! I dare you!! ;) I'll personally pick you at the airport :-X
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: davidpaul on January 12, 2007, 02:56:16 PM
Welcome to brazil, if you have the balls to get down here! I dare you!! ;) I'll personally pick you at the airport :-X

hahaha, hows it going brother long time no hear.
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Mr. Michael Moore on January 12, 2007, 02:57:35 PM
chrisghmoliveira@uol.com.br

im gonna find your family and f**k with them bro :)

Still sucking on your momma's pussy living at your momma's basement, tuff guy?
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: ether on January 12, 2007, 03:34:46 PM
how much money did his parents give you?


Awesome post!!!!


Monster truth
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: SteelePegasus on January 12, 2007, 03:41:14 PM
Just to clear the air for everyone, since this seems to be the topic of the day. King stated, "Isaac took down my site due to a difference of opinion and within an hour we settled the matter for good. By stating "lack of payment" Isaac crossed the line and he knows it. But that's neither here nor there."

It wasn't a difference of opinion, it was in fact due to lack of payment. I'm not here to get into a pissing match with King, we've gone into that already. I won't go into the details but King was alerted of what would show up on his web site if I was not paid, considering I was more then understanding as the site was completed 8 months ago. I haven't said anything untrue or inappropriate. Bottom line, I received my payment and his site was restored.

Isaac
LIFT STUDIOS
http://www.liftstudios.com (http://www.liftstudios.com)

isaac, I am not trying to tell you how to run your business  but...

hosting a fucking dirt cheap these days

http://www.hostica.com/Web_Hosting/Basic_Hosting/The_1-1-1_Plan/

$1/month

since you don't seem too bright, everything is probably running off a shared web server on a linux box..fucking dirt cheap

the negative press this has created for you was not worth it.

I doubt that king was using any significant bandwidth and I am guessing that his site was mostly static pages...


you truly are a prick
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: nycbull on January 12, 2007, 03:48:01 PM
isaac, I am not trying to tell you how to run your business  but...

hosting a fucking dirt cheap these days

http://www.hostica.com/Web_Hosting/Basic_Hosting/The_1-1-1_Plan/

$1/month

since you don't seem too bright, everything is probably running off a shared web server on a linux box..fucking dirt cheap

the negative press this has created for you was not worth it.

I doubt that king was using any significant bandwidth and I am guessing that his site was mostly static pages...


you truly are a prick

thats a good point, what exactly did King have to pay for? was it updates or just bandwidth?

 Your right bandwidth on a site like that would cost nothing. Maybe 20 bucks a month.

Maybe King was being overcharged.

Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: SteelePegasus on January 12, 2007, 03:56:19 PM
thats a good point, what exactly did King have to pay for? was it updates or just bandwidth?

 Your right bandwidth on a site like that would cost nothing. Maybe 20 bucks a month.

Maybe King was being overcharged.


I mean what the fuck...you never embarras a client

Isaac couldn't have given him ample notice to transfer his site to a different hosting company. But hosting is so fucking cheap that I don't see the point.

or worse case scenario the old  "404--page not found" error

What a great company this fucker is running, basically making fun of his clients. Why whould anyone every trust him again?

Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Lift Studios on January 12, 2007, 04:04:19 PM
I mean what the f**k...you never embarras a client

Isaac couldn't have given him ample notice to transfer his site to a different hosting company. But hosting is so fucking cheap that I don't see the point.

or worse case scenario the old  "404--page not found" error

What a great company this fucker is running, basically making fun of his clients. Why whould anyone every trust him again?
Thanks for your two cents but it wasn't a hosting issue. King runs his site on his own server, not mine. 8 months is ample time to pay a bill and ample notice.

When you receive numerous requests for payment and don't pay, then you force people to take action. That's what I did and in doing so I received my payment.

End of story.
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: SteelePegasus on January 12, 2007, 04:08:58 PM
i would love to fly down to your second world shithole of a country to beat the shit outta your short fat ass


but from the looks of these pictures someone has already worked you over with an ugly stick ;D

the only thing impressive in these pics is his high bodyfat percentage...can somebody please send him some Clen..please
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: sandycoosworth on January 12, 2007, 04:09:35 PM
Thanks for your two cents but it wasn't a hosting issue. King runs his site on his own server, not mine. 8 months is ample time to pay a bill and ample notice.

When you receive numerous requests for payment and don't pay, then you force people to take action. That's what I did and in doing so I received my payment.

End of story.

its pretty clear youre in the right here (despite the fact yorue a douchebag fag)

but that doesnt matter, cause by doing this you have shown the rest of your clients you are petty and vengeful ... not a smart idea in the long run
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: SteelePegasus on January 12, 2007, 04:11:19 PM
its pretty clear youre in the right here (despite the fact yorue a douchebag fag)

but that doesnt matter, cause by doing this you have shown the rest of your clients you are petty and vengeful ... not a smart idea in the long run

I hope that it was worth the $45.99 that he got from King
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: sandycoosworth on January 12, 2007, 04:17:13 PM
what lift did was tatamount to defamation of character; you cannot publically embarrass your clients like that ... i wouldnt be surprised if king had grounds for liable
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: The Squadfather on January 12, 2007, 04:19:19 PM
what lift did was tatamount to defamation of character; you cannot publically embarrass your clients like that ... i wouldnt be surprised if king had grounds for liable
"liable"? it's libel, dummy.
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Fury on January 12, 2007, 04:22:56 PM
"liable"? it's libel, dummy.

Monster self-ownage by Jimmy trying to look like he wasn't autistic.  ::)
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: youandme on January 12, 2007, 04:24:47 PM
"liable"? it's libel, dummy.
hahaha, monster lawsuit
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Lift Studios on January 12, 2007, 04:28:07 PM
In any other industry this isn't even a topic of discussion.

At some point a person has to stand their ground and that's what I did.

Thanks and good night.
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: alexxx on January 12, 2007, 04:31:11 PM
Just to clear the air for everyone, since this seems to be the topic of the day. King stated, "Isaac took down my site due to a difference of opinion and within an hour we settled the matter for good. By stating "lack of payment" Isaac crossed the line and he knows it. But that's neither here nor there."

It wasn't a difference of opinion, it was in fact due to lack of payment. I'm not here to get into a pissing match with King, we've gone into that already. I won't go into the details but King was alerted of what would show up on his web site if I was not paid, considering I was more then understanding as the site was completed 8 months ago. I haven't said anything untrue or inappropriate. Bottom line, I received my payment and his site was restored.

Isaac
LIFT STUDIOS
http://www.liftstudios.com (http://www.liftstudios.com)

You did a kick ass job on his website man! More pros should do them that way!
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: dookie on January 12, 2007, 04:47:32 PM
what lift did was tatamount to defamation of character; you cannot publically embarrass your clients like that ... i wouldnt be surprised if king had grounds for liable

lift waited 8 months for payment, and gave "king" fair warning.  After 8 months, lift did the right thing.  in fact, the only question is, why not sooner? 
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: sandycoosworth on January 12, 2007, 04:54:32 PM
In any other industry this isn't even a topic of discussion.

At some point a person has to stand their ground and that's what I did.

Thanks and good night.

if king got several notices and flatly ignored you hes getting what he deserves ... that doesnt mean what you did was right from a legal standpoint; you slandered him in front of 1000's of people ... not only that, but these are the very  people who judge him, the people who buy the supplements from his sponsors, and the people who pay him to get naked and wiggle it, and possibly even the people who bang his wife ... er anyways since you were in business together im sure he can sue the f**k out of your company and given the kinda country you live in he will win.

aside from that you have just shown any perspective clients what a vindictive individual you are. i doubt even an oldschool 240 with all his antics would have been foolish enough to do that


Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: sandycoosworth on January 12, 2007, 04:55:46 PM
lift waited 8 months for payment, and gave "king" fair warning.  After 8 months, lift did the right thing.  in fact, the only question is, why not sooner? 

i agree from a logical perspective, but i think king could actually win a lawsuit against him   
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on January 12, 2007, 04:57:51 PM
kings lucky issac doesnt have a litte more G in him. Then he would have sent his boys to go give king a lickin. I guess sometimes it pays off to be civil. ;D
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: nycbull on January 12, 2007, 05:03:39 PM
In any other industry this isn't even a topic of discussion.

At some point a person has to stand their ground and that's what I did.

Thanks and good night.

wait, you dialed into his server and changed the html without his permission?
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Denny Crane on January 12, 2007, 05:11:25 PM
Lift, I have an erection. That's a good sign. I'm ready to go to trial. Lock and load.

Denny Crane.
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Special Ed on January 12, 2007, 05:21:35 PM
if king got several notices and flatly ignored you hes getting what he deserves ... that doesnt mean what you did was right from a legal standpoint; you slandered him in front of 1000's of people ...
Moron,

Slander is a false, and malicious statement about another person.

Lift told the truth, which is an absolute defense to slander and libel. And he didn't embarrass King. King embarrassed himself. If you don't pay your rent and the sheriff padlocks your door, you would have only yourself to blame and the embarrassment would be because of your own inaction, not the necessary business decision that caused everyone to realize you can't pay your bills.

The real question is: WHY DIDN'T KING PAY LIFT SEVEN MONTHS AGO? Lift built King the best bodybuilder website out there and King was very satisfied with the job. So why did he fail to pay for so long? There's only two reasons people don't pay their bills: (1) They don't have the money; or (2) They just don't feel like paying.

Bottom Line: Lift was 100% in the right. When you don't pay Verizon, Comcast, DiSH, or ConEd, they don't accept, "I'll try to pay you something next month" as an answer. THEY TURN OFF YOUR SERVICE because THAT'S HOW THEY GET YOU TO PAY UP. It's just business, not personal.

The only message to Lift's clients and potential clients is that he doesn't want deadbeats for clients and won't tolerate non-payment for services previously rendered. That's a good message.

If anything, I think people will have more respect for Lift, and anyone thinking of loaning King any money (Milos, I'm talking to you) or doing anything for him on spec or on a promise to pay should think twice.

Special "Lift Support" Ed
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: BRUCE on January 12, 2007, 05:24:46 PM
its pretty clear youre in the right here (despite the fact yorue a douchebag fag)

but that doesnt matter, cause by doing this you have shown the rest of your clients you are petty and vengeful ... not a smart idea in the long run

You're right, he has - the 'clients' that don't pay for 8 months.
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: BRUCE on January 12, 2007, 05:25:42 PM
Moron,

Slander is a false, and malicious statement about another person.

Lift told the truth, which is an absolute defense to slander and libel. And he didn't embarrass King. King embarrassed himself. If you don't pay your rent and the sheriff padlocks your door, you would have only yourself to blame and the embarrassment would be because of your own inaction, not the necessary business decision that caused everyone to realize you can't pay your bills.

The real question is: WHY DIDN'T KING PAY LIFT SEVEN MONTHS AGO? Lift built King the best bodybuilder website out there and King was very satisfied with the job. So why did he fail to pay for so long? There's only two reasons people don't pay their bills: (1) They don't have the money; or (2) They just don't feel like paying.

Bottom Line: Lift was 100% in the right. When you don't pay Verizon, Comcast, DiSH, or ConEd, they don't accept, "I'll try to pay you something next month" as an answer. THEY TURN OFF YOUR SERVICE because THAT'S HOW THEY GET YOU TO PAY UP. It's just business, not personal.

The only message to Lift's clients and potential clients is that he doesn't want deadbeats for clients and won't tolerate non-payment for services previously rendered. That's a good message.

If anything, I think people will have more respect for Lift, and anyone thinking of loaning King any money (Milos, I'm talking to you) or doing anything for him on spec or on a promise to pay should think twice.

Special "Lift Support" Ed

Another excellent post, Ed.
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: sandycoosworth on January 12, 2007, 05:32:21 PM
Moron,

Slander is a false, and malicious statement about another person.

Lift told the truth, which is an absolute defense to slander and libel. And he didn't embarrass King. King embarrassed himself. If you don't pay your rent and the sheriff padlocks your door, you would have only yourself to blame and the embarrassment would be because of your own inaction, not the necessary business decision that caused everyone to realize you can't pay your bills.

The real question is: WHY DIDN'T KING PAY LIFT SEVEN MONTHS AGO? Lift built King the best bodybuilder website out there and King was very satisfied with the job. So why did he fail to pay for so long? There's only two reasons people don't pay their bills: (1) They don't have the money; or (2) They just don't feel like paying.

Bottom Line: Lift was 100% in the right. When you don't pay Verizon, Comcast, DiSH, or ConEd, they don't accept, "I'll try to pay you something next month" as an answer. THEY TURN OFF YOUR SERVICE because THAT'S HOW THEY GET YOU TO PAY UP. It's just business, not personal.

The only message to Lift's clients and potential clients is that he doesn't want deadbeats for clients and won't tolerate non-payment for services previously rendered. That's a good message.

If anything, I think people will have more respect for Lift, and anyone thinking of loaning King any money (Milos, I'm talking to you) or doing anything for him on spec or on a promise to pay should think twice.

Special "Lift Support" Ed

easy there mike the virgin strange ... all kings lawyers have to do is create doubt about the circimstances surrounding the late payments and issac is fucked ... ie its not the definition of slander you need to finger your butt hole to, its the interpretation of what dingbat wrote on the website
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Special Ed on January 12, 2007, 05:36:43 PM
easy there mike the virgin strange ... all kings lawyers have to do is create doubt about the circimstances surrounding the late payments and issac is fucked ... ie its not the definition of slander you need to finger your butt hole to, its the interpretation of what dingbat wrote on the website
Sandy,

I don't really understand your reply, but I like the name "Mike the Virgin Strange". May I use that?
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: sandycoosworth on January 12, 2007, 05:39:43 PM
I don't really understand your reply,

then perhaps you should have kept your mouth shut in the first place, no?

ease off me nutz mike, you peaked with nasser flinging shit
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Disgusted on January 12, 2007, 05:42:31 PM
There are always two different sides to a story and it's funny how you left out the details of what really happened. King asked you several times to bill him on a monthly basis. You ignored him requests and then bill him $1200 after 8 months. What took you so long to bill him?? Why did you ignore his requests??
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: sandycoosworth on January 12, 2007, 05:43:19 PM
Funny how there are always two different sides to a story and how you leave out the details of what really happened. King asked you several times to bill him on a monthly basis. You ignored him requests and then bill him $1200 after 8 months. What took you so long to bill him?? Why did you ignore his requests??

and here is your case for slander...
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: SteelePegasus on January 12, 2007, 05:45:43 PM
There are always two different sides to a story and it's funny how you left out the details of what really happened. King asked you several times to bill him on a monthly basis. You ignored him requests and then bill him $1200 after 8 months. What took you so long to bill him?? Why did you ignore his requests??

do you think it is easy spending 19hour/day actively posting on getbig? that shit take times and effort
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Disgusted on January 12, 2007, 05:47:15 PM
I remember months ago King telling me that Issac was not billing him and that he was not getting back to him about it. Now all of the sudden he shows up with a $1200 bill to be paid on full immediately or he will shut the site down with a big message about not being paid. Sounds pretty immature to me. Looks like 240 is going to get even more business.  ;D
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Lift Studios on January 12, 2007, 05:51:49 PM
There are always two different sides to a story and it's funny how you left out the details of what really happened. King asked you several times to bill him on a monthly basis. You ignored him requests and then bill him $1200 after 8 months. What took you so long to bill him?? Why did you ignore his requests??
Disgusted, I like you man you're a good guy. Let King fight his own battles. He asked me to bill him on a WEEKLY basis only after I told him I was taking the site down and I said that was unnacceptable as I had sent numerous requests since June for payment. I was being nice, too nice and he took advantage of that. I have email proof from King if need be that shows our discussions via email. It wasn't from lack of billing, I have those emails and paypal has the invoice notices when sent.

I proved my point and I'm letting it go at that is unless you and King want to push the issue. Trust me it's not one he wants to go down and he knows it.

Peace
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Disgusted on January 12, 2007, 05:57:01 PM
OK, I'm pushing the issue for King. GO ahead and show the emails and all proof.
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Lift Studios on January 12, 2007, 06:01:48 PM
OK, I'm pushing the issue for King. GO ahead and show the emails and all proof.
Would you prefer the meltdown emails, the invoices or the voicemail meltdown?

Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: youandme on January 12, 2007, 06:03:19 PM
Would you prefer the meltdown emails, the invoices or the voicemail meltdown?



all of the above
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Disgusted on January 12, 2007, 06:06:59 PM
You know what Issac, you knew exactly what you were doing. By posting that is site was down due to lack of payment, you were hoping it would end up on here. In fact, you knew it would! That is pretty low. Also, as far as King fighting his own battles, making this post public made it open season for everyone, just the way you intended all long.
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: SS on January 12, 2007, 06:11:29 PM
1200 bucks! that's a lot of blow jobs.... enjoy my friend.
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Lift Studios on January 12, 2007, 06:15:01 PM
You know what Issac, you knew exactly what you were doing. By posting that is site was down due to lack of payment, you were hoping it would end up on here. In fact, you knew it would! That is pretty low. Also, as far as King fighting his own battles, making this post public made it open season for everyone, just the way you intended all long.
I only posted AFTER King did. Note that I did not post anything on this board until King did and I posted this to set the record straight.

Again, let it go man.

Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: sandycoosworth on January 12, 2007, 06:19:16 PM
1200 bucks! that's a lot of blow jobs.... enjoy my friend.


badabing ;D




lift is getting owned!
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: sandycoosworth on January 12, 2007, 06:25:28 PM
and apparently youre the queer whose keeping my diary
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: The Master on January 12, 2007, 06:35:07 PM
and apparently youre the queer whose keeping my diary

 ;D
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: The True Adonis on January 12, 2007, 06:52:23 PM
how much money did his parents give you?

by "parents" you mean, Al-Quaeda,Hezzbollah or Hamas?
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Rearden Metal on January 12, 2007, 07:44:10 PM
All this over $1200? That's like 2-3 honest days work. Big fucking deal.
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Rearden Metal on January 12, 2007, 07:47:19 PM
Selling some fucking faucets and doorknobs, you?
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Pollux on January 12, 2007, 07:58:06 PM
I applaud Lift Studios. Mofo needs to get paid like everyone else.
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Rearden Metal on January 12, 2007, 08:06:21 PM
I applaud Lift Studios. Mofo needs to get paid like everyone else.

There's plenty of ways to get paid without bringing it public. All Isaac has done is show he is cheap and low class dealing with accounts recievables in this way, and I'm fairly certain nobody has a different opinion of King than they did prior to this news. Anyone who thought he was a shitbag still does, and anyone else could care less about this website crap.

Again, $1200? $12K, I could understand being upset. Maybe even $5K, but regardless of the cost it should never be publicly stated that there is a problem.

I've got people that owe me much, much more. One of them is a celebrity athlete. Sure, I could attempt to publicly humiliate him but that does me more harm than him. I'll get my money, I'm sure of it...because I provide a service my customers need over and over and I do it better than my competition. That's how it's done.
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Pollux on January 12, 2007, 08:17:03 PM
There's plenty of ways to get paid without bringing it public. All Isaac has done is show he is cheap and low class dealing with accounts recievables in this way, and I'm fairly certain nobody has a different opinion of King than they did prior to this news. Anyone who thought he was a shitbag still does, and anyone else could care less about this website crap.

Again, $1200? $12K, I could understand being upset. Maybe even $5K, but regardless of the cost it should never be publicly stated that there is a problem.

I've got people that owe me much, much more. One of them is a celebrity athlete. Sure, I could attempt to publicly humiliate him but that does me more harm than him. I'll get my money, I'm sure of it...because I provide a service my customers need over and over and I do it better than my competition. That's how it's done.

That's YOUR bitch way and Lift Studios has his "pay the piper" way. Good for you, Lift Studios.
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Rampage on January 12, 2007, 09:32:55 PM
Lift Studios, i can respect you and your opinions.....but Man that was inappropriate of you dude.I actually remember and am familiar with you BECAUSE of Kamali giving you guys a plug on his PBW appearence.The adds are worthlesss ,  we all fastforward through them or dont really give a shit

Disgusted is right , you know they way things work and you knew that you posting sucha thing on kings site would make a splash.Yes you got paid , but to your detriment.Do you think now that kamali would want to continue a busniess relationship with you after you embarassed him by putting up some degreding statement like that ?

I doubt that he would.You think kamali has a problem with money???? Also , it doesnt bode well for your future customers if they see you acting this immaturely.It was the WRONG thing to do

I understand that you tried to sort things out , but there was a CLASSIER course of action right next to you that you shouldve taken
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: realkarateblackbelt on January 12, 2007, 09:40:35 PM
Embarrassing a public figure over 1200?

The implication of such a statement is clear: Kamali is broke.

LS knew somebody would see this and jump all over it.

Not handled well at all.
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: 240 is Back on January 12, 2007, 09:44:02 PM
If he would've picked 240 none of this would've happen. That guy is cheap!

*blush*

I'm def not commenting on this situation.

Personally, when money issues do come up, I try to find creative solutions.  For instance, if a client needs updates and is short on cash, I might offer to do them free to put my banner on his/her website for a while.  Or maybe a "Send me a friend who buys a site and I'll do this or that for free".  While money isn't always there, clients have a wealth of relationships and networks that I do not have.  It's a win-win when we can turn a tough period into an opportunity. :)

Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Ron on January 12, 2007, 10:00:45 PM
Like I said before, a little 'glitch' that was taken care of. End of story.

King is not broke - dont even bring it that up. He just renewed his Muscletech contract. Isaac has his points, many of them, it should of been taken care of earlier. But that is between King and Lift. All I wish is that it was resolved earlier, in the final days of December. 

Am I being diplomatic? Yes - because I have known both for a while, and thus I am staying out of it. But in business, there are many who have done this, and sometimes are unethical. Should you expose them? Sometimes..  
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Debussey on January 12, 2007, 10:01:32 PM
*blush*

I'm def not commenting on this situation.

Personally, when money issues do come up, I try to find creative solutions.  For instance, if a client needs updates and is short on cash, I might offer to do them free to put my banner on his/her website for a while.  Or maybe a "Send me a friend who buys a site and I'll do this or that for free".  While money isn't always there, clients have a wealth of relationships and networks that I do not have.  It's a win-win when we can turn a tough period into an opportunity. :)



You are a pretty smart guy Rob.

You should stop this small business nonsense and go into big time corporate gameplay.
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: 240 is Back on January 12, 2007, 10:04:59 PM
You are a pretty smart guy Rob.

You should stop this small business nonsense and go into big time corporate gameplay.

Thanks.  I will re-enter the corporate world once the baby (or babies) are off to school.  I'm making okay $ now, and I am on the floor playing with my son all day long, going on walks, swimming, etc, really loving every day.  So I have another 4 or 5 years til I gotta wear a tie and say "yes sir" again.
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Wombat on January 12, 2007, 10:16:16 PM
All this over $1200? That's like 2-3 honest days work. Big fucking deal.

everything is relative...$1200 for you may not be anything but to someone else it could mean a house payment..
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: The Heckler on January 12, 2007, 11:03:10 PM
by "parents" you mean, Al-Quaeda,Hezzbollah or Hamas?

hahaha
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Laura Lee on January 13, 2007, 02:33:04 AM
Sites are shut down for lack of payment all the time, but I can't say I have ever seen one say "shut down for lack of payment". 

I like you Isaac, I think you hand done a lot for the industry and have helped many, but I think a "internal error" message would have still got the problem solved. 

I would have been mortified if it was me.   :-\
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Mydavid on January 13, 2007, 02:36:32 AM
Sites are shut down for lack of payment all the time, but I can't say I have ever seen one say "shut down for lack of payment". 

I like you Isaac, I think you hand done a lot for the industry and have helped many, but I think a "internal error" message would have still got the problem solved. 

I would have been mortified if it was me.   :-\

The thing is, Laura, if we were as popular as him we could have done what he did.

Lisa
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: SteelePegasus on January 13, 2007, 04:33:23 AM
Sites are shut down for lack of payment all the time, but I can't say I have ever seen one say "shut down for lack of payment". 

I like you Isaac, I think you hand done a lot for the industry and have helped many, but I think a "internal error" message would have still got the problem solved. 

I would have been mortified if it was me.   :-\


bascically Isaac's response was/is unprofessional
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on January 13, 2007, 04:43:38 AM
Thanks.  I will re-enter the corporate world once the baby (or babies) are off to school.  I'm making okay $ now, and I am on the floor playing with my son all day long, going on walks, swimming, etc, really loving every day.  So I have another 4 or 5 years til I gotta wear a tie and say "yes sir" again.

What companies have you worked for in the past Rob?

The Beef
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: UK Gold on January 13, 2007, 06:25:40 AM
'Lift Studios' was totally out of order. He new by putting that message up it would be on all the boards immediately, embarrassing and humiliating King. What kind of a snake does that? Certainly not one with any business acumen - hundreds of potential clients now know 'Isaac' to be a nasty little fag with a childish vindictive streak. Hes finished.

People are saying King is broke, yet conveniently ignore his new contracts. It seems to me 'Isaac' is broke, scrambling around in the dirt for a few dollars. Hes finished.
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: 240 is Back on January 13, 2007, 06:44:18 AM
What companies have you worked for in the past Rob?

I worked for a law firm in their IT dept, then did a proj mgmt programming gig in a 500+ employee, highly bureaucratic Fortune 500 company.  Having only worked for the school district then the University before that, it was a huge adjustment.  When the department head asked for an idea and you had something really good for him, you couldn't just shoot him an email with an idea that fit perfectly.  you had to give it to your boss, who made changes, who gave it to his boss, who made changes, who then gave it to the guy who asked for it, a week later with his name on it.  Your original vision was completely distorted by then, and the 2nd to top guy trying to take credit for it didn't have the technical ability to clearly explain the concept to the boss, but he didn't want to relinquish credit.

I can see the advantages - system keeps working when any cogs fall out, more stable for the stockholder.  But so very hard to grow things, adapt quickly, or have any fun in that kinda system.
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: ether on January 13, 2007, 06:56:13 AM
He asked me to bill him on a WEEKLY basis

Why would anyone want to receive bills on a weekly basis.

If King was as rich as he claims to be ::), he should thank Lift for not having his shit together and billing him one lump sum after 8 months...so that he could collect the interest on the money.

Monster investment savy.
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 13, 2007, 08:25:57 AM
Embarrassing a public figure over 1200?


Hhahahahahahahahahahahah aha..."Public figure"?
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Debussey on January 13, 2007, 08:47:34 AM
Thanks.  I will re-enter the corporate world once the baby (or babies) are off to school.  I'm making okay $ now, and I am on the floor playing with my son all day long, going on walks, swimming, etc, really loving every day.  So I have another 4 or 5 years til I gotta wear a tie and say "yes sir" again.

Good.

You should not be saying "yes sir". You should be the fucking owner. Other people should say "yes sir" to you.
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: nycbull on January 13, 2007, 10:35:17 AM
Wow, 240 a stay at home Dad, Blockhead quoting Italians, and The Squadfather thrilled to announce a lost boy was found. Has something gotten into their protein shakes? ;D

You see there is love on getbig.
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Rearden Metal on January 13, 2007, 10:55:28 AM
*blush*

I'm def not commenting on this situation.

Personally, when money issues do come up, I try to find creative solutions.  For instance, if a client needs updates and is short on cash, I might offer to do them free to put my banner on his/her website for a while.  Or maybe a "Send me a friend who buys a site and I'll do this or that for free".  While money isn't always there, clients have a wealth of relationships and networks that I do not have.  It's a win-win when we can turn a tough period into an opportunity. :)




Agreed, great outlook.

Pollux, listen up, you might learn something. It's "Rich", not "Bitch".
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: IronMagazine.com on January 13, 2007, 11:16:46 AM
Thanks for your two cents but it wasn't a hosting issue. King runs his site on his own server, not mine. 8 months is ample time to pay a bill and ample notice.

When you receive numerous requests for payment and don't pay, then you force people to take action. That's what I did and in doing so I received my payment.

End of story.

how are you able to "take his site down" if it is on his own server, that is interesting.
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Blockhead on January 13, 2007, 11:24:11 AM

 He just CAN!

 Lots of things are not being said and left out but dont even attempt to stick up for him.

 Lift is in the RIGHT and KK is waaaay in the wrong.

 Too bad Lift is too much of a gentleman and decent man to NOT post the other "proof".
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: sandycoosworth on January 13, 2007, 11:28:24 AM
Hey ISSAC...

 If you thimk about it...YOU came out ahead, here.

 You have this entire BOARD backing you up.

you should spend more time reading the thread and less time typing mini novels nobody actually reads ... many people said lift fuct up
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Blockhead on January 13, 2007, 11:33:57 AM
you should spend more time reading the thread and less time typing mini novels nobody actually reads ... many people said lift fuct up
Wrong. YOU read my work here all day long.

 YOU don't know what happened. The ONLY information you have is what you see here. But hey...it was a 'glitch'. Just a 'misunderstanding'.

 If Ron Himself says so...then is must be true.
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: dookie on January 13, 2007, 11:39:57 AM
i knew lift had the details.  and disgusted, your a cool person on the boards, and your loyalty is understood, but i bet disgusted is getting his payments on time, if hes actually charging for his services. 

i do hear the "lift that was wrong" chant, but this is 8 months.   i hear what you were saying earlier sandycoosworth, and since i personally dont know the law regarding this, ill just not comment.  but in priciple, i think most agree lift had to do something, and sending a paypal invoice was not cutting it.  small claims court must be filed in the state that your sueing, so thats off the table.   so whats left.  take down the site.  of course lift did add his little touch to it with the "lack of payment" but with 8 months of requesting payment, i think lift's response was fair.   in all, i think most would agree the site had to go down.  i just happen to personally like lift's style of taking it down. 
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: davidpaul on January 13, 2007, 11:42:41 AM
you should spend more time reading the thread and less time typing mini novels nobody actually reads ... many people said lift fuct up

Yeah I counted one, his name was Jimmy and had many "internet girlfriends". ::)
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: sandycoosworth on January 13, 2007, 12:02:00 PM
Wrong. YOU read my work here all day long.

 YOU don't know what happened. The ONLY information you have is what you see here. But hey...it was a 'glitch'. Just a 'misunderstanding'.

 If Ron Himself says so...then is must be true.

you clearly said "You have this entire BOARD backing you up" and that is clearly wrong

you should think before typing
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: gordiano on January 13, 2007, 12:11:55 PM
First off, let me say that I'm not a fan of either Lift or Kamali.


That said, I don't know WHY Isaac is catching so much shit. He was owed money for his services, and Kamali was not a couple of week behind here......we're talking months.


It could be worse, and Lift could have sent the balance to collection......... :-\




Perhaps Kamali should stop leasing a Hummer, and get himself a Honda Civic......... ;)



Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: sandycoosworth on January 13, 2007, 01:43:10 PM
i invented teh font color = black trick asshole

(just like i found the origianl avatar loophole which allowed one to resize a pic and the singature tiny url trick when ron moved sigs from 10-25 characters)

its much quicker to type fuct, as in you are a fuct up homo
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: sandycoosworth on January 13, 2007, 01:47:22 PM
good one slick
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: YoungBlood on January 13, 2007, 02:04:59 PM
i invented teh font color = black trick asshole

I believe the first one to discover that was Sir Duchaine, or whatever alias he was going by at the time... ;)
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: sandycoosworth on January 13, 2007, 02:09:49 PM
no it wasnt
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Special Ed on January 13, 2007, 02:17:11 PM
What no one has suggested is how Lift was supposed to get his money after 8 months of emailing, calling, billing, and politely asking for the money.  Did you expect him to call King's parents or hire a lawyer at his own expense or fly across the country and knock on King's door and beg him for the money?? Gimme a break. The only leverage a web designer has to get paid is to remove their work. No one with any business sense would have done anything else.

I understand the fanboys supporting King, but for industry people like Ron and 240 to fail to back up Lift is disappointing.

On one hand you have a Pro Bodybuilder who claims to be loaded, but when it comes to paying a bill, claims to be broke.

On the other, you have a guy who spent hours and hours of his time building a great website only to have his client refuse to pay.

I would expect those who run their own business and do their own billing to completely understand.

For those who mentioned that now Lift has ruined his relationship with King, ask yourself how having a deadbeat client who doesn't refer any business your way and refuses to pay his bill and doesn't appreciate the hard work you do is worth having any sort of relationship with.

Bottom Line: If King was able to come up with the money WITHIN TWO HOURS of the site going down, HE HAD THE MONEY ALL ALONG!!!
He was an IDIOT for NOT PAYING IT WHEN LIFT GAVE HIM a couple days of NOTICE.

Lift is a designer. He does great work. No one should hesitate to do business with him.

Special "Elevator Action" Ed
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: YoungBlood on January 13, 2007, 02:19:02 PM
no it wasnt

Too bad it all happened on the old board and the post(s) were lost.
But it was Sir Duchaine! ;)
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: sandycoosworth on January 13, 2007, 02:20:10 PM
no it wasnt :)
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Blockhead on January 13, 2007, 02:22:58 PM
 Good post, Special'Sometimes you get the shaft'Ed!

 I was disappointed to see Ron Himself try to "smooth things over" and win the appreciation from a guy with FROSTED TIPS who tries hard to be "street" and a "bad boy" over an honest, hardworking industry guy who JUST LIke Ron Himself loves the industry and has a genuine passion for it.

 I understand why he did it but that's no excuse.

 In no way shape or form would The King EVER stick up for Ron Himself or ever piss on Ron Himself if Ron Himself was on fire.

 I have a feeling that Issac is a straight up guy and an even straighter shooter who would be a good loyal friend and colleague.

 The cat is out of the bag and what's done is DONE. Issac came out LIGHT-YEARS ahead and The King's "stock" went down 3 more notches.

 The whole industry reads this board.
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: YoungBlood on January 13, 2007, 03:01:44 PM
no it wasnt :)

Goddammit it was!!! >:( :P
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: IronMagazine.com on January 13, 2007, 07:05:19 PM
so why is his site up?

http://www.kingkamali.com
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: AVBG on January 13, 2007, 07:32:05 PM
IMO, I don't think Isaac really gives a shit about his business relationship with KK. Lift studios thanks to Phil Heath doesn't need the high maintenence "debt collection" crap that comes with working for King Kamali
Title: Re: Getbig getting to Kamali
Post by: Army of One on January 13, 2007, 08:06:20 PM
i think we should all work together and be nice for a while to get tamali to come back here. then once weve gained his trust we verbally rape him so he kills himself and we dont have to see that Monstrousity on stage anymore.....
Title: Re: Getbig getting to Kamali
Post by: The Heckler on January 13, 2007, 08:07:48 PM
robert the bruce is king's, um, "sponsor"
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Special Ed on January 13, 2007, 08:10:23 PM
so why is his site up?
http://www.kingkamali.com
Because he paid his bill. Get wit the program, pilgrim.

Special "John Wayne" Ed
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: The Squadfather on January 13, 2007, 08:13:16 PM
“One best poser award, two top 5 placing, and an Olympia qualification… Not a bad 2006. I finally have a winning formula that works each and every time and a team of amazing supporters to keep my fire burning. This has been an amazing year of learning, understanding, and maturing. My body is coming into its own and believe me folks you ain’t seen nothing yet! My new trainer, Jim Magnone and I worked together for only 3 weeks to turn everything around…. 3 WEEKS!!!! I can’t wait to get started with my off-season program. It’s amazing how insane I am sometimes…. Here I just finished a 32 week hell program and 3 weeks of almost total carb. depletion and all I could think about at dinner after the AC Pro was my program for 2007. I must be losing it! We both have the same image of King Kamali for 2007 that will take me from the 4th and 5th place finishes to 1st and 2nd. I want to send a big King Size thanks you to my team at MuscleTech. Your support, amazing supplements and outstanding athlete relations are second to none and make all the hard work worthwhile. Once again MuscleTech has proved to me why we are the best… Olympia here we come!”

hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Dorian01 on January 13, 2007, 08:40:40 PM
He got a pro bodybuilder to pay a debt without putting a gun to his head. That's fine work.
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: thisiskeith12 on January 13, 2007, 09:34:21 PM
You know what Issac, you knew exactly what you were doing. By posting that is site was down due to lack of payment, you were hoping it would end up on here. In fact, you knew it would! That is pretty low. Also, as far as King fighting his own battles, making this post public made it open season for everyone, just the way you intended all long.

No need to press the issue if you think Isaac is doing this for publicity purposes. Sounds to me like what happened was Isaac asked King to pay, King ignored him, Isaac became more persistent, King became more avoiding, Isaac said "Pay up or else", King brushed him off, so Isaac   took matters into his own hands. In the end they both are wrong, but waiting 8 months for compensation of $1200 would piss anyone off.
Title: Re: Setting the Kamali Record Straight
Post by: Special Ed on January 13, 2007, 11:44:24 PM
My paperboy gets pissed when I don't pay him TWO DOLLARS each week. He chases me on his bicycle repeating "I WANT MY TWO DOLLARS" over and over. Once, he even spray-painted my house "PAPER NOT DELIVERED FOR NON-PAYMENT"!!! All that over two bucks!

Lane "Better Off Dead" Meyer