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Chicago Bears VS New Orleans Saints
Indianapolis Colts VS New England Patriots
My picks
Saints VS Colts
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Pats/Bears I guess. I need injury reports.
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Colts/Saints!
I wouldn't mind seeing the Saints win the Super Bowl. Would be good for football and that city.
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NFC will come down to the weather. If they have good weather, I like Brees over Grossman. Bad weather gives Chicago a huge advantage.
Colts v. Pats? Give me Brady over Manning in the dome, but if it's a close game, the Colts now have the X factor. I HATE kickers!
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NFC will come down to the weather. If they have good weather, I like Brees over Grossman. Bad weather gives Chicago a huge advantage.
Colts v. Pats? Give me Brady over Manning in the dome, but if it's a close game, the Colts now have the X factor. I HATE kickers!
Glaskowski has been money all year. Won the game tonight. No vs Pats. If not, they will get pounded by the colts.
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pats/bears
pats win easily
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Colts/Saints!
I wouldn't mind seeing the Saints win the Super Bowl. Would be good for football and that city.
i agree with berzerk would be great for football to see siants win it all
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Saints over Colts in super bowl.
please please please knock out the pats asap.
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Saints over Colts in super bowl.
please please please knock out the pats asap.
i agree wit you 240 but the saints d would have to be able to stop brady in the fourth to win it all
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Saints over Colts in super bowl.
please please please knock out the pats asap.
Why do you hate the pats rob? Just curious.
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Why do you hate the pats rob? Just curious.
Probably because they squeak by on luck and don't win games on their own?
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Probably because they squeak by on luck and don't win games on their own?
12 - 1 postseason.... Refer to sticky above for proof you are infact, a moron :D Nice win for the colts last night!!!! Beat the second best team in the afc by a kicker!!!! Aahahaha!
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12 - 1 postseason.... Refer to sticky above for proof you are infact, a moron :D Nice win for the colts last night!!!! Beat the second best team in the afc by a kicker!!!! Aahahaha!
well body my friend i will give you this if the pats get past the colts next week they will win the super bowl :'(
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12 - 1 postseason.... Refer to sticky above for proof you are infact, a moron :D Nice win for the colts last night!!!! Beat the second best team in the afc by a kicker!!!! Aahahaha!
Nice win for the Pats, your star QB has one of the worst games of his career and has to rely on the Chargers beating themselves. I can't believe you're even bragging about being outplayed in every facet of the game.
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Nice win for the Pats, your star QB has one of the worst games of his career and has to rely on the Chargers beating themselves. I can't believe you're even bragging about being outplayed in every facet of the game.
Brady, 3 picks, 4 tds, moves to 12 -1 best all time postseason record in history - BEATS BEST TEAM IN FOOTBAL
Manning, 5 picks, 1 td - KICKER BEATS SECOND BEST TEAM IN FOOTBALL
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pats won 3 outta 4 super bowls. i grow bored of their stale predictable way of chipping off yardage and never really dazzling me. one reggie bush runback is more exciting than a pats super bowl run.
plus when i see obvious marketing of dimples and teeth, i get bored, and tom brady was the commercial darling for so long he got a tad overplayed.
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pats won 3 outta 4 super bowls. i grow bored of their stale predictable way of chipping off yardage and never really dazzling me. one reggie bush runback is more exciting than a pats super bowl run.
plus when i see obvious marketing of dimples and teeth, i get bored, and tom brady was the commercial darling for so long he got a tad overplayed.
It is not Tom Bradys fault he has dimples and teeth. He has never done commercials or asked for the attention. I can see your point , but who is more played out then Payton Manning? Commercial after commercial.
That said I can see why you might want to see a high scoring slugfest.
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with the way the pats played, i'd have to go with colts v. bears
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It is not Tom Bradys fault he has dimples and teeth. He has never done commercials or asked for the attention. I can see your point , but who is more played out then Payton Manning? Commercial after commercial.
That said I can see why you might want to see a high scoring slugfest.
How much Tom Brady dick are you going to suck? I wouldn't be surprised if you were defending a video of him shooting someone in cold blood.
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That not true, enough with the bullshit bezerk. I can post several posts where I praise Manning and do the same for Brady. I talk about both there accomplishments and skills.
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That not true, enough with the bullshit bezerk. I can post several posts where I praise Manning and do the same for Brady. I talk about both there accomplishments and skills.
That's a funny claim, what with the 6th thread you just made about Tom Brady showcasing his numbers. Is this even a Sports Board at this point, or a Patriots Fan Club? ::)
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That's a funny claim, what with the 6th thread you just made about Tom Brady showcasing his numbers. ::)
That thread is a fair comparison of both. Those are all statistical facts ::) The first thread I ever made ( not the 6th), which is not only about Brady. Would you like me to dig up the qoutes of me saying mannning is the greatest pure skill qb ever?
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I'm a little lost as to why it can't go into one of the other 5 threads where you're jerking off Tom Brady. Is it a Sports Board or a Patriots board? ::)
Or are you saying it's ok for me to make a different thread for each statistic the Yankees were better than the Red Sox in last year?
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The threads discussing the Patriots game? Prove I am "jerking hime off".You are doing the jerking my friend. I post stats pulled of NFL.com. If you are going to be in denial then get mad at the stats. I did not make them up lol.
You are a sore loser with no life. Go meet some girls football star.
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The threads discussing the Patriots game? Prove I am "jerking hime off".You are doing the jerking my friend. I post stats pulled of NFL.com. If you are going to be in denial then get mad at the stats. I did not make them up lol.
You are a sore loser with no life. Go meet some girls football star.
No life? I'm posting while packing to leave in about 30 mins. You have 5 threads going about the Patriots and you feel justified in making another one about some stats you copy-pasted from another website. I'm just curious as to why this is called the Sports Board when the only threads being posted in are the 6 Patriot ones you have going. Might as well rename it.
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No life? I'm posting while packing to leave in about 30 mins. You have 5 threads going about the Patriots and you feel justified in making another one about some stats you copy-pasted from another website. I'm just curious as to why this is called the Sports Board when the only threads being posted in are the 6 Patriot ones you have going. Might as well rename it.
Wrong, there are tons of threads on other things. There are two pats threads. The hijacks where perpetrated by you talking shit. Would you like me to merge them?
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Wrong, there are tons of threads on other things. There are two pats threads. The hijacks where perpetrated by you talking shit. Would you like me to merge them?
Might as well, I know I'm tired of scrolling halfway down the board to sift through the Boston bullshit on here. ;)
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I just merged the two pats threads.
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Colts and Saints
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Yeah i think its the colts and saints....
Saints - The bears defense thrives off of mistakes. Breeze dosent make mistakes with the ball. The saints offense is too versitile. There isnt one guy that you can just key on and shut down and hope to win. Sort of like a poor mans 1999 rams. Deuce and Bush in the backfield have proven to give defenses fits.
Also Rex Grossman has shown that he isnt consistant. I have never in my life seen one Person be responsible for 6 turnovers by himself. (MNF Cards v Bears). He is due for one of those games. The Saints Defense though not full of great athletes, they have great game plans and play very sound defense. They play well enough for the Saints offense to do their thing. Thats just my take.
Key factor....REX GROSSMAN. If he plays decent it will be a close game that would go anyway...But if he has one of those gun slinger games the Saints will take advantage... Look for the Saints to take this one
The colts...
Though you can never count Brady out and Bills game plans are the best in the last 20 years, I think this is the year for the Colts. They have won the close games. They have one the ugly games. And those are the games that the Pats usually win. i said last week that the chargers would have to beat the pats by 2 touchdowns because if not the pats would win a close game. Manning is due for a big game. Believe me, Manning is a pro and he will shake off last weeks debacle and will have a big game. But if not Adam V has changed jerseys and seems to have the good luck charm on his foot. Remember if there is no adam v there might not be a Brady...or brady might have mannings curse...
Also the pats and colts have played many times recently and the gap has gotten smaller For the colts. I think dungy finally has a handle on bills offense and will game plan well for it
And last but not least, home field advantage, the RCA dome might be the loudest in the leauge and it will play a major part in this game
Key factors. Adam V, Home field, Asante Samuel (dude is a game changer ask the jets)
Note i didnt add brady in the key factors because he is consistant and you know you will get an A+ effort.
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Saints over Colts in super bowl.
please please please knock out the pats asap.
Karma will lead the Colts and Saints to the Super Bowl. I have said it, therefore it is official.
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It's not the same Patriots team of the old days and anyone who isn't a Patriot fan won't deny that. They have flaws on both sides of the ball and the Colts are just the team to exploit them. And if Harrison doesn't play, hahaha! Good luck stopping that recieving corp. If Dallas Clark has another gigantic game, then I expect the Colts to walk away with the victory. If the Ravens defense had trouble with him, there's no reason to believe the Pats linebackers will be able to handle him.
Bears don't have the offense to hang with the Saints, nor is their defense able to stop anyone running up the middle.
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It's not the same Patriots team of the old days and anyone who isn't a Patriot fan won't deny that. They have flaws on both sides of the ball and the Colts are just the team to exploit them. And if Harrison doesn't play, hahaha! Good luck stopping that receiving corp. If Dallas Clark has another gigantic game, then I expect the Colts to walk away with the victory. If the Ravens defense had trouble with him, there's no reason to believe the Pats linebackers will be able to handle him.
Bears don't have the offense to hang with the Saints, nor is their defense able to stop anyone running up the middle.
Very good points, this is what I would say to counter some of that (obviously there are strengths for the colts that can be applied the same way, this is just the perspective of a NE fan).
When the two met during the regular season the pats only lost by 7 while committing 5 turnovers. I was shocked at how many chances they gave the colts. The secondary was in worse shape then it is now, so I think the key for the pats is to use the weapons they have on the line ( Wilfork, Warren and Seymour) to get Manning out of the pocket and make him throw on the run. Brewski, Vrabel, Banta Kain and Colvin can reek havoc on the passing lanes if Manning is pressured. He has always trouble with this. If he has all day you are right tho, without Harrison and with the injury's back there the colts ob have an advantage. Harrison, Wayne and Clark are the best in the biz. Lets not forget about Asanti Samuel and the impact he can have in a game. Expect the pats to give Manning some throws anyway. The guy will get his yards. The pats d was second to the ravens in total points allowed a (12. 8 ravens - 14.8 pats) average. Statistically the pats D was very good all year. So, that is a strength for them. The colts have been great, but will they revert back to ther old ways if they have to stop not only the run, the pass also? Trent Green and Steve Mcnair are not Tom brady.
The colts have faced one dimensional teams up to this point imo. The colts defense has been playing freaking awesome. I feel they have to come back down to earth at some point. The pats have far more offensive weapon then kc, or the ravens. Lets start with the 3 running backs. Three backs, three totally different looks. I am still waiting for Maroney to blow up like he was (before he got hurt), Faulk has been a monster and old Dillon can still rumble a bit. They have the other best QB in the league and the ability to spread it out. They can go long, they can stay short. During there season there was speculation the new receivers where not have there timing down until playoff time. With the late season emergence of Gafney and Caldwell this seems to hold true. Caldwell has better stats on the year then the man he replaced in Deion. Troy is troy, and you can always count on him. I wish jackson did not get hurt in the preseason. This rookie is 6'4 , and fast. I feel when he gets some actual expierence he will be a great weapon. No idea iof they plan to use him.
This will be close game imo ( close in the sense it will prob come down to a score or so). It will come down to who executes better. It will also depend on that Indy d. If they come out like they have in the last two games it is going to be a tough game. But, if they soften up due to the offensive capabilities the pats have in the air, and let that running game get going I think the game will be won by the patriots. Same goes for ne. Harrison's injury was said to take 3 - 4 weeks to heal. This is week 3, we shall see. They are playing Manning so if he plays well this is going to be a tough, tough battle. Forgot to mention the colts running game. The backs have been playing well, need to contain them.
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Very good points, this is what I would say to counter some of that (obviously there are strengths for the colts that can be applied the same way, this is just the perspective of a NE fan).
When the two met during the regular season the pats only lost by 7 while committing 5 turnovers. The secondary was in worse shape then it is now, so I think the key for the pats is to use the weapons they have on the line ( Wilfork, Warren and Seymour) to get Manning out of the pocket and make him throw on the run. Brewski, Vrabel, Banta Kain and Colvin can reek havoc on the passing lanes if Manning is pressured. He has always trouble with this. If he has all day you are right tho, without Harrison and with the injury's back there the colts ob have an advantage. Harrison, Wayne and Clark are the best in the biz. Lets not forget about Asanti Samuel and the impact he can have in a game. Expect the pats to give manning those some throws anyway. The guy will get his yards. The pats d was second to the ravens in total points allowed a 12. 8 - 14.8 average. Statistically the pats D was very good all year. So, that is a strength for them. The colts have been great, but will they revert back to ther eoold ways if they have to stop not only the run, the pass also. Trent green and Steve mcnair are not Tom brady.
The colts have faces one dimensional teams up to this point. The colts defense has been playing freaking awesome. I feel they have to come back down to earth at some point. The pats have far more offensive weapon then kc, or the ravens. Lets start with the 3 running back. Three backs, three totally different looks. They have the other best QB in the league and the ability to spread it out. They can go long, they can stay short. During there season there was speculation the new receivers where not have there timing down until playoff time. With the emergence of Gafney and Caldwell this seams to hold true. Caldwell has better stats on the year then the man he replaced in Dieon. Troy is troy and you can always count on him.
This will be close game imo. It will come down to who executes better. It will also depend on that Indy d. If they come out like they have in the last two games it is going to be a tough game. But, if they soften up due to the offensive capabilities the pats have in the air, and let that running game get going I think the game will be won by the patriots.
Where the pats seem to beat the colts is in the turnover department and there is no faster way to force those turnovers than pressure. But thats on both sides. Though PEyton gets rattled more than Brady who dosent have a nervous bone in his body, pressure from freeny could cause sacks. Freeny had 5 sacks in the regular season but its playoffs and he already has 2.3 (3 imo) in the last 2 games. And he gets a better jump on turf.
Also if bills Blitz get to manning then its lights out.
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I agree, but if the pats can shut down Merrimen for an entire game I am confident they can buy Brady the time he needs to throw. I was very surprised, Matt Light made Merrimen his bitch most of the entire game. IN the first meeting Manning was sacked three times by the pats. I believe that was the most he was sacked all year.
Brady had time to throw most of the entire game against the chargers. if the line can repeat that performance he should be good to go. The pats offensive line has really stepped it up the last 6 games.
Same goes for Manning, if he has all day, we are in trouble.
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I agree, but if the pats can shut down Merrimen for an entire game I am confident they can buy Brady the time he needs to throw. I was very surprised, Matt Light made Merrimen his bitch most of the entire game. IN the first meeting Manning was sacked three times by the pats. I believe that was the most he was sacked all year.
Brady had time to throw most of the entire game against the chargers. if the line can repeat that performance he should be good to go. The pats offensive line has really stepped it up the last 6 games.
Same goes for Manning, if he has all day, we are in trouble.
Just as i said before...if the colts make it a slug fest they will lose. I know they have won close games but this is the playoff pats we are talkin about here. They live for close games.
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Sorry, must have read what you wrote wrong. I agree, I think is going to be a close dogfight.
I think by the third quarter that colts offensive line is going to lose some steam against the huge pats defensive line. Same for the colts d line. Small and fast is a great tool on the line until the body starts to wear down.
The pats have to keep it close until the speed starts to fade on the colts side of the ball.
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Sorry, must have read what you wrote wrong. I agree, I think is going to be a close dogfight.
I also think it has the possibility of being a close dogfight out of ciurcumstance. The pats better take some alot shots down field and have that strecth play action goin if they wanna loosten up this pats d.
DUDE I FUCKIN CANT WAIT
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I also think it has the possibility of being a close dogfight out of ciurcumstance. The pats better take some alot shots down field and have that strecth play action goin if they wanna loosten up this pats d.
DUDE I FUCKIN CANT WAIT
I mean close in the sense of relativley high scoring dog fight. You know what I mean ;) I am pretty pumped up to.
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I agree, but if the pats can shut down Merrimen for an entire game I am confident they can buy Brady the time he needs to throw. I was very surprised, Matt Light made Merrimen his bitch most of the entire game. IN the first meeting Manning was sacked three times by the pats. I believe that was the most he was sacked all year.
Brady had time to throw most of the entire game against the chargers. if the line can repeat that performance he should be good to go. The pats offensive line has really stepped it up the last 6 games.
Same goes for Manning, if he has all day, we are in trouble.
Outside of the Chargers game, the Pats tackles have been pretty disappointing this year. Freeney and Mathis are both big game guys and play their best with the spotlight on them. I'm expecting a monster day from Freeney.
One cool thing I noticed about the Patriots is that they have like 4 recievers from Florida.
I hope it comes down to Vinatieri kicking a 40 yarder as time expires for the win. ;D
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Outside of the Chargers game, the Pats tackles have been pretty disappointing this year. Freeney and Mathis are both big game guys and play their best with the spotlight on them. I'm expecting a monster day from Freeney.
One cool thing I noticed about the Patriots is that they have like 4 recievers from Florida.
I hope it comes down to Vinatieri kicking a 40 yarder as time expires for the win. ;D
If that happens I will not even be mad. That would be so ludicrous and ironic, I would just shake
my head and laugh.
Gloskowski is a damn good kicker, so I do not even wanna think about that, lol.
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Bears/ NO
NO has way to much scoring ability for the current version of the bears d. The bears have been allowing 25 points per game. The d is not the same since the loses.
It will come down to if Rex can overcome the points that NO can put on the board. I do not think he can.
Not to mention how red hot Duce is right now. Compliment that with the speed and athletic ability Bush can bring, I do not see how the bears can stop em.
imo
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Outside of the Chargers game, the Pats tackles have been pretty disappointing this year. Freeney and Mathis are both big game guys and play their best with the spotlight on them. I'm expecting a monster day from Freeney.
One cool thing I noticed about the Patriots is that they have like 4 recievers from Florida.
I hope it comes down to Vinatieri kicking a 40 yarder as time expires for the win. ;D
Just a quick counterpoint to this statement. Up until the Miami game you are correct the pats tackles where having a uncharictoristic and at times spotty year. At times they looked great and at other well, not so great. But since that Miami game which was six games ago, they have played fantastic. To say they had a disappointing year is a stretch. An off year at times, before the last four games of the regular season, without a doubt. They where fantastic the last four games of the regular season, in the jets wildcard game,and lights out last week against the best in the biz. Dan Koppen being injured during the regular season did not help the cause.
To say Mathis and Freeney will have a huge game based on the last two performances by your own logic is a bit hypocritical, imo. The colts where sporting the 7th worst run d in NFL history up until the last two games. They where sporting a horrible d as a whole. They have been very effective against the outside rusher, but I feel they will have issues with a power runner. Light manhandled Merrimen last week,and Kaczur has been playing well, I think it will be a good matchup.
I think the colts d has stepped it up 10000 percent, just making a point. The colts d deserves all the credit in the world. My only question is how will they do against a team that not only can run,but can kill you in the air. The ravens and chiefs did not have this ability imo.I expect the colts d to play well in this game. They have been fantastic during this playoff. I was refering to the original quote you made.
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Just a quick counterpoint to this statement. Up until the Miami game you are correct the pats tackles where having a uncharictoristic and at times spotty year. At times they looked great and at other well, not so great. But since that Miami game which was six games ago, they have played fantastic. To say they had a disappointing year is a stretch. A off year at times before the last four games of the regular season, without a doubt. They where fantastic the last four games of the regular season, in the jets wildcard game and lights out last week against the best in the biz. Dan Koppen being injured during the regular season did not help the cause.
To say Mathis and Freeney will have a huge game based on the last two performances by your own logic is a bit hypocritical, imo. The colts where sporting the 7th worst run d in NFL history up until the last two games. They where sporting a horrible d as a whole. They have been very effective against the outside rusher, but I feel they will have issues with a power runner. Light manhandled Merrimen last week and Kaczur has been playing well, I think it will be a good matchup.
I think the colts d has stepped it up 10000 percent, just making a point. The colts d deserves all the credit in the world. My only question is how will they do against a team that not only can run but can kill you in the air. The ravens and chiefs did not have this ability imo.I expect the colts d to play well in this game. They have been fantastic during this playoff. I was refering to the original quote you made.
I wasn't saying they would have a big game due to their recent play. It's widely known that both of those guys are big game players, Freeney especially. He usually plays well above his normal level when the spotlight is on him and it's do or die.
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I wasn't saying they would have a big game due to their recent play. It's widely known that both of those guys are big game players, Freeney especially. He usually plays well above his normal level when the spotlight is on him and it's do or die.
I am sure they will. I was speaking more about the first statement you made. Like I said, I believe the colts d of the playoffs will be the version we see when we play them. I only make the point that they have yet to face a team that can soften them up in the air very effectivley.They have struggled against power runners and I think Dillon will be effective this game. I think this is going to be a great game and I think the colts will play great.
It will come down to execution and turnovers. Whoever does it better wins.
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I am sure they will. I was speaking more about the first statement you made. Like I said, I believe the colts d of the playoffs will be the version we see when we play them. I only make the point that they have yet to face a team that can soften them up in the air very effectivley.They have struggled against power runners and I think Dillon will be effective this game. I think this is going to be a great game and I think the colts will play great.
Thats what i think about the colts against the pats d..If the running game is going a little bit in the first quarter, the strecth play with a play action with something deep down field or clark up the seam will soften up the pats d to where they will have no chance but to blitz crazy and sometimes a blitz can be a crap shoot.
But if they do those controlled blitz's or the zone type of blitz it will counter what the colts are trying to do.
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I am sure they will. I was speaking more about the first statement you made. Like I said, I believe the colts d of the playoffs will be the version we see when we play them. I only make the point that they have yet to face a team that can soften them up in the air very effectivley.They have struggled against power runners and I think Dillon will be effective this game. I think this is going to be a great game and I think the colts will play great.
It will come down to execution and turnovers. Whoever does it better wins.
They held Larry Johnson to 38 yards, and Dillon isn't anywhere near a runner of LJ's caliber at this point. Don't really see the Patriots RB's doing much of anything.
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They held Larry Johnson to 38 yards, and Dillon isn't anywhere near a runner of LJ's caliber at this point. Don't really see the Patriots RB's doing much of anything.
Larry Johnson is best as a outside rusher imo. The colts have struggled with power runners. Dillon is still a great back, Faulk has been having a great year and Maroney is the real deal. I know he is not on the level of LJ anymore ( I do not think he is), but LJ is the second best rusher in the league. My point is the pats have about 600 more ways to kill you then kc did. Opening up things kc had slammed shut against them. Maroney did not get much attention since he was sharing touches with Dillon and Faulk every game. Then at the end of the year he was out for three years so no one payed any attention to him. Madden called him the real deal on Monday night, and judging from what I saw before he was hurt I agree. I think they will make a impact. Just my opinion tho.
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Larry Johnson is best as a outside rusher imo. The colts have struggled with power runners. Dillon is still a great back, Faulk has been having a great year and Maroney is the real deal. I know he is not on the level of LJ anymore ( I do not think he is), but LJ is the second best rusher in the league. My point is the pats have about 600 more ways to kill you then kc did. Opening up things kc had slammed shut against them. Maroney did not get much attention since he was sharing touches with Dillon and Faulk every game. Then at the end of the year he was out for three years so no one payed any attention to him. Madden called him the real deal on Monday night, and judging from what I saw before he was hurt I agree. I think they will make a impact. Just my opinion tho.
LJ runs up the tackles fine. He's a 230 pound back. I knew Maroney was the real deal in college watching Minnesota. The Pats are more than lucky to have taken him.
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LJ runs up the tackles fine. He's a 230 pound back.
Well, I tend to think he is most effective when he gets outside. I just wanted to make the point the colts did a great job of stopping lj, but the pats have many more ways to kill them then on the ground. That was about all kc had to go against em.
Dont think I am trying to tell you the colts d is not going to be tough, I know it will.
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I should be giving more credit to the colts running game also. Addi and Rhodes (spelling) have played great.
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Addai is going to be a beast as soon as he puts some more weight on.
After watching the Colts these playoffs, the only way to exploit that defense is going to be through the air. The Ravens did it a few times. But it's going to take one helluva an exploitation to beat them if their offense is playing anywhere near its capabilities.
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Addai is going to be a beast as soon as he puts some more weight on.
After watching the Colts these playoffs, the only way to exploit that defense is going to be through the air. The Ravens did it a few times. But it's going to take one helluva an exploitation to beat them if their offense is playing anywhere near its capabilities.
Check out the production of the pats receivers in the last 2 games. I do not think they will have an issue throwing the ball in this game. They have managed to move the ball in the air against some of the best defenses in the league at one point or another. This is going to be a great game.
Receptions
1 Jabar Gaffney NE 18 207 11.5 1 31
2 Reche Caldwell NE 12 130 10.8 1 49
3 Dallas Clark IND 11 144 13.1 0 27
4 Joseph Addai IND 10 48 4.8 0 16
5 Reggie Wayne IND 10 87 8.7 1 19
6 Reggie Brown PHI 10 149 14.9 0 32
7 Deion Branch SEA 8 96 12.0 0 27
8 Troy Brown NE 7 65 9.3 0 16
9 Bobby Engram SEA 7 120 17.1 0 36
10 Jerramy Stevens SEA 7 95 13.6 2 37
11 Antonio Gates SD 6 61 10.2 0 19
12 Mark Clayton BAL 6 73 12.2 0 21
13 Marvin Harrison IND 6 93 15.5 0 42
Top two in sacks belong to a colt and patriot
sacks
1 Dwight Freeney IND 2 3
2 Tully Banta-Cain NE 2 3
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Should be a good game, but in NE, in the cold, I gotta give the edge to the Brady bunch.
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Should be a good game, but in NE, in the cold, I gotta give the edge to the Brady bunch.
It is at the RCA dome >:( On the Bright side, Brady is statisticall beast on turf.
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In the dome, with Brady behind center, I gotta give the edge to the Pats.
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In the dome, with Brady behind center, I gotta give the edge to the Pats.
hahahaha. Peyton is a God on the turf for the most part. The Colts recievers will be faster than usual.
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hahahaha. Peyton is a God on the turf for the most part. The Colts recievers will be faster than usual.
I agree, but so isn't Brady. 23 -1 all time, on turf. That includes 1 superbowl win.
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I agree, but so isn't Brady. 23 -1 all time, on turf. That includes 1 superbowl win.
Never said he wasn't. But Peyton's played his best football on the turf, and their two playoff losses came AT Foxboro, although I'm not sure if both were played there.
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Never said he wasn't. But Peyton's played his best football on the turf, and their two playoff losses came AT Foxboro, although I'm not sure if both were played there.
One of them was. "The goal line stand game" was at the RCA dome. I agree with you, it will not be an advantage for either. Manning is money on turf, especially.
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One of them was. "The goal line stand game" was at the RCA dome. I agree with you, it will not be an advantage for either. Manning is money on turf, especially.
Ahh, that's right.
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One of them was. "The goal line stand game" was at the RCA dome. I agree with you, it will not be an advantage for either. Manning is money on turf, especially.
yo so enough with the pregame analysis....whats the outcome fellas
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yo so enough with the pregame analysis....whats the outcome fellas
Colts by Vinatieri game winning kick as time expires! Either that or a TD.
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Colts by Vinatieri game winning kick as time expires! Either that or a TD.
That would be so sweet.
I guess ill put it out there...i dont like the pats too much. I just hate the coach. Like everyone else but the coach.
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hahahaha. Peyton is a God on the turf for the most part. The Colts recievers will be faster than usual.
It really showed in the divisional game last year against the Steelers. Even when the refs tried to give the Colts the game, a Bettis fumble is the only thing that made the game close.
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Colts by Vinatieri game winning kick as time expires! Either that or a TD.
If the pats are gonna lose. I would like to see it go down this way myself...The pats new kicker is decent but they had no reason to let Vinatieri go...The guy is a total class act and the best cluch kicker in the game...Again im a pats fan and want them to win it all of course but i hate that they let Vinatieri go esp. to the Colts...
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If the pats are gonna lose. I would like to see it go down this way myself...The pats new kicker is decent but they had no reason to let led go...The guy is a total class act and the best clutch kicker in the game...Again I'm a pats fan and want them to win it all of course but i hate that they let Venturi go esp. to the Colts...
Gostkowski had great numbers all year. Comparable to those of Vinatieri. The one knock against Adam are his kickoffs. Gostkowski has a stronger leg and can kick it through the posts from kickoff. Adam is the best kicker of all time.There will never be anyone as good as him. Everyone will forever have to live up to Adam. I will miss Adam to, he is the greatest clutch kicker off all time. But, the pats are not going to stray from the philosophy they have. They will not weaken other key parts of the team by paying more then they can for one guy. They offer a fair market contract, if they get one upped by another team and feel they can at least replace the player, they do it. No one will ever be Adam. People do not look at the big picture. Take Branch for example. Branch was under contract for the remainder of this season, a contract he signed. His agent decides they are going to tell the pats Branch will not be playing until he gets a new contract. First off, the blackmail technique is not going to work against a team that holds the team philosophy as there mantra. What where the pats supposed to do? Let Branch show any other player who had a good year that they can get what they want by holding out, and blackmail? So the pats offer to restructure Branch's contract after this season when his current contract is up. They offer him a more then fair deal, and will wave the 100,000 in fines he racked up not showing up for camp/preseason. Well, he wanted no part of it, so they let him go for a first round pick. The best part is the national media ignores all this ,and claims the pats just let him go ::) That is not what happened. Hell, the pats had the legal right to sit branch for the year and fine him to hi heaven, they did not do that tho. They let him seek a trade and get his big time cash. Critics on here had no idea branch was under contract, and where squawking, until I typed out the whole scenario. The national media never told the full story. Caldwell had mirror regular season numbers this year to what Branch had. Caldwell actually had better numbers then Branch this year. Branch in all honesty has done nothing for Seattle.I believe he dropped 4 passes in one game this year. Branch has never been in the top 20 in receptions in his career. he was ranked 21 when Brady led the league passing last year with over 4200 yards. Before that, he was never in th the top 30. Yet he was demanding money like a Steve smith or Chad Johnson would make. Made no sense for the pats. I loved Branch, everyone did. But he sealed his own fate. People where knocking this when Caldwell Gaffney and Jackson where struggling. No one seemed to care these guys where all first year guys who missed portions of training camp. Jackson is a rookie who missed the whole preseason with a hammie injury! Of course it is going to take time to get there timing. Since routs are based on timing it was going to take a good chunk of the reg season to get comfortable. They started to mesh after the Miami game very well. That is the salary cap era my friends. Most Seattle fans I know are pissed they let that great tackle go(forget name?), but signed branch for so much green when he has not done much of anything for them. I wish we could have all those guys to. But, thank the salary cap for making that impossible if you want to stay competitive and keep key guys across the board. You pay more then you can for a player then you have no money for the defensive line, no money for guys like Asanti and Maroney etc,etc. After you have won so many superbowls people want to poach your staff. These teams like San D and the Bengals have been building for years. The pats have won so many championships things are much different to remain competitive for them. There staff gets poached by other teams, the players demand huge money and can get it from other teams, teams who have been rebuilding for years with the best picks etc etc. They have always done a great job in the draft. Just look at the difference between the 2001 superbowl team and the 2003 team. Much, much different/better. Same thing in 2004. The pats have been right every time they let a guy go. Look at Willie, look at branch, the list goes on. I miss Adam just as much as the rest of the fan base, but that is football in 2007.
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1 Adam Vinatieri IND 8 8 51 2 2 26
2 Stephen Gostkowski NE 6 6 50 5 5 23
Receiving yards
1 Jabar Gaffney NE 18 207 11.5 1 31
2 Reggie Brown PHI 10 149 14.9 0 32
3 Dallas Clark IND 11 144 13.1 0 27
4 Donte' Stallworth PHI 6 141 23.5 2 75
5 Reche Caldwell NE 12 130 10.8 1 49
6 Bobby Engram SEA 7 120 17.1 0 36
7 Bernard Berrian CHI 5 105 21.0 1 68
8 Jerricho Cotchery NYJ 4 100 25.0 1 77
9 Deion Branch SEA 8 96 12.0 0 27
10 Jerramy Stevens SEA 7 95 13.6 2 37
11 Marvin Harrison IND 6 93 15.5 0 42
Receiving td's
1 Jerramy Stevens SEA 7 95 13.6 2 37
2 Donte' Stallworth PHI 6 141 23.5 2 75
3 Plaxico Burress NYG 5 89 17.8 2 29
4 Reggie Wayne IND 10 87 8.7 1 19
5 Reche Caldwell NE 12 130 10.8 1 49
6 Kevin Faulk NE 3 18 6.0 1 7
7 Jabar Gaffney NE 18 207 11.5 1 31
8 Daniel Graham NE 3 39 13.0 1 19
9 Jerricho Cotchery NYJ 4 100 25.0 1 77
10 Tony Gonzalez KC 4 25 6.3 1 9
11 Bernard Berrian CHI 5 105 21.0 1 68
12 Deuce McAllister NO 4 20 5.0 1 11
13 Nate Burleson SEA 1 16 16.0 1 16
14 Patrick Crayton DAL 3 42 14.0 1 18