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Hi everyone!
It's Mike Pulcinella, brother of Dave. I'm deep into the editing of Raising the Bar 2 and thought that some of you might be interested to see a short clip from one of the completed sections of the documentary. It's coming along nicely but I still have a long way to go! In the meantime, thanks for all your kind words about RTB1 and I hope you enjoy the clip.
Mike
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i would hate to have to workout in that gym
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Looks awesome Mike
ill take a copy/let me know when it's released
there is no Victor (the dwarf) el-campo in it is there?
also id like to see some naked women in this one
thanks.................. .........Mike
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i would hate to have to workout in that gym
Why do you say that? It's one of the better gyms in our area...of course it's no longer a Gold's gym anymore.
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Looks awesome Mike
ill take a copy/let me know when it's released
there is no Victor (the dwarf) el-campo in it is there?
also id like to see some naked women in this one
thanks.................. .........Mike
Thanks Mike, your opinion means a lot to me. You will be one of the first to know when it's done.
Actually Victor appears very briefly in that clip as one of Dave's workout partners, (he's doing the incline dumbbell bench press) but other than a brief "Where are they now?" kind of thing, we are going to concentrate on Dave and Jenn almost exclusively.
Sorry about the lack of naked women. I've been trying to come up with a project that will allow me to stop videotaping my brother's big ass and videotape some hot chicks instead. I'd head down to Florida for spring break...but that's already been done!
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form of those lat pulldowns in the beginning leaves a lot to be desired
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He needs to learn how to train better
needs to lean what inertia is ...he should be going slower and focus on the eccentric movements and control of the weights..
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form of those lat pulldowns in the beginning leaves a lot to be desired
I know but have you seen his lats? Whatever he's doing...it seems to work!
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Looks good. When will it be ready for release? 8)
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He needs to learn how to train better
needs to lean what inertia is ...he should be going slower and focus on the eccentric movements and control of the weights..
how can you argue with the results tho?
Dave is one big freaky guy............obviously whatever he is doing works
i like Daves dedication and love for the sport (it motivates me)
and Laura loves the segments on Jenn
we look forward to it's release
Mike
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Looks good. When will it be ready for release? 8)
I get asked that question often...mostly by Dave! I have a day job so I can only work on it at night and on the weekends in my "spare time", but I am doing as much as I can and hope to be done by spring. In the meantime we might post a couple more clips on Youtube. I'll let you know here if I do.
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Many would have a few things to say about his "form" (or lack there of).
how can you argue with the results tho?
Dave is one big freaky f**cker............obviously whatever he is doing works
This is a typical meathead response (no offense Mike), not to mention avoiding injuries, how do you know if he trained with proper form he would not look better? (all other things....ie drugs...kept the same)
What is up with drinking out of a bowl?
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gayest looking "video" i've ever seen, horrible form with tiny weights being lifted, receding hairlines, purple skin, earrings, gay spandex, 195lb. guys wearing NPC string tank tops and baggy sweatshirts, just horrible all around, nice try though.
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Many would have a few things to say about his "form" (or lack there of).
This is a typical meathead response (no offense Mike), not to mention avoiding injuries, how do you know if he trained with proper form he would not look better? (all other things....ie drugs...kept the same)
What is up with drinking out of a bowl?
LOL! Good point. I'll have to defer all these questions to my brother. I'm sure he has answers for all of them, he is very well thought-out. He'll prolly check in and post a little later.
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gayest looking "video" i've ever seen, horrible form with tiny weights being lifted, receding hairlines, purple skin, earrings, gay spandex, 195lb. guys wearing NPC string tank tops and baggy sweatshirts, just horrible all around, nice try though.
hahaha they should put that quote on the front cover of the dvd.
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how can you argue with the results tho?
Dave is one big freaky f**cker............obviously whatever he is doing works
i like Daves dedication and love for the sport (it motivates me)
and Laura loves the segments on Jenn
we look forward to it's release
Mike
Mike, he is ego training on the pull downs..
what results? he looks like a typical gym rat on gear..nothing special
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gayest looking "video" i've ever seen, horrible form with tiny weights being lifted, receding hairlines, purple skin, earrings, gay spandex, 195lb. guys wearing NPC string tank tops and baggy sweatshirts, just horrible all around, nice try though.
Oh wow. Well, I guess you're not in our target audience then!! Ha ha! Thanks for the "constructive criticism" anyway. But how do you like the editing?? That's all I care about! ;-)
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Did you guys see the first one "Raising The Bar" ??
it quickly became a "cult favorite" it was/is an inside look at this sport we love so much from a true bodybuilders perspective,humorous,intense and detailed
unlike so many "training tapes" this one was a in-depth look into our lives as seen thru Mikes lens
Raising The bAR # 2 I eagerly look forward too
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hahaha they should put that quote on the front cover of the dvd.
that clip had every bad stereotype about bodybuilders you can imagine, can you imagine how horrible this guys genetics are that he appears to be honestly 205 pounds yet is on so much drugs that his head turns purple from doing behind the head extensions with a pusssy 70lb. dumbbell?
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Hellz yeah. Been waitin' for this shit, yo.
What quarter are you lookin' at for its release?
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that clip had every bad stereotype about bodybuilders you can imagine, can you imagine how horrible this guys genetics are that he appears to be honestly 205 pounds yet is on so much drugs that his head turns purple from doing behind the head extensions with a pusssy 70lb. dumbbell?
those legs extention were a joke..yes, it was the full rack but if you look carefully his lower back is doing most of the work
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The CLOSEUP of the leg extension scene was for 'schomes only'. I guess to make some money they have to appeal to the homos so...
I never seen such awful form on standing dumbbell lateral raises or even seated leg curls.
I also thought the NPC 'wear' and the spandez 'OTOMIX' get-up went out 6 years ago?
Then the 'interview' on the ever so comfy looking couch and camera close up of their face showing them resting in between sets holding a look of deep concentration and pain.
Thumbs down.
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that clip had every bad stereotype about bodybuilders you can imagine, can you imagine how horrible this guys genetics are that he appears to be honestly 205 pounds yet is on so much drugs that his head turns purple from doing behind the head extensions with a pusssy 70lb. dumbbell?
in all fairness that could have been his 3rd superset...based on his build he should be pushing more than that
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those legs extention were a joke..yes, it was the full rack but if you look carefully his lower back is doing most of the work
i'm going to give Dave some advice because he seems like a nice guy on here, lose the earrings, the string tank, the baggy sweatshirt, the Otomix, the drinking out of a bowl, the penciled in "beard", drop the drug use to half of current amounts and put on some size, wear a normal t shirt and pants and drop the pre workout stimulants, he'll be golden if he does all that.
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The CLOSEUP of the leg extension scene was for 'schomes only'. I guess to make some money they have to appeal to the homos so...
I never seen such awful form on standing dumbbell lateral raises or even seated leg curls.
I also thought the NPC 'wear' and the spandez 'OTOMIX' get-up went out 6 years ago?
Then the 'interview' on the ever so comfy looking couch and camera close up of their face showing them resting in between sets holding a look of deep concentration and pain.
Thumbs down.
im gunna watch that clip again.............did i miss all this???
brb
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Did you guys see the first one "Raising The Bar" ??
it quickly became a "cult favorite" it was/is an inside look at this sport we love so much from a true bodybuilders perspective,humorous,intense and detailed
unlike so many "training tapes" this one was a in-depth look into our lives as seen thru Mikes lens
Raising The bAR # 2 I eagerly look forward too
Thanks for sticking up for us Mike. Maybe a workout sequence wasn't the best clip to release first. Makes RTB2 look like just another bb workout vid. There is a lot more on this DVD of the behind-the-scenes, day-in-the-life kind of stuff that you don't see in your average bb vid, including unprecedented backstage access to the Masters Nationals in Pittburgh last year. (Big thanks to Gary Udit.)
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i'm going to give Dave some advice because he seems like a nice guy on here, lose the earrings, the string tank, the baggy sweatshirt, the Otomix, the drinking out of a bowl, the penciled in "beard", drop the drug use to half of current amounts and put on some size, wear a normal t shirt and pants and drop the pre workout stimulants, he'll be golden if he does all that.
lol, the only thing missing were the construction boots and cut of jeans on legs day.
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OK Dave is no fashion icon that's for sure
so he is stuck in the 80's ......who cares what he wears
i didn't notice any gay shit in that clip (except maybe that skinny kid with "Diesel" Tattooed on his arm)
so Daves form sucks..............this isnt a training tape
give it a chance!
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I have a hard time believing that all of you criticizing Dave's apparel and form all workout with perfect textbook form in only the most tastefully coordinated workout outfits! Gimme a break!
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OK Dave is no fashion icon that's for sure
so he is stuck in the 80's ......who cares what he wears
i didn't notice any gay shit in that clip (except maybe that skinny kid with "Diesel" Tattooed on his arm)
so Daves form sucks..............this isnt a training tape
give it a chance!
Mike, the only thing that you can learn from this video is "what not to do in the gym" and "what not to wear to the gym"
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i'm going to give Dave some advice because he seems like a nice guy on here, lose the earrings, the string tank, the baggy sweatshirt, the Otomix, the drinking out of a bowl, the penciled in "beard", drop the drug use to half of current amounts and put on some size, wear a normal t shirt and pants and drop the pre workout stimulants, he'll be golden if he does all that.
Yup.
It might fool some 18yr old kid with a jug of CellTech and a GNC GoldCard but not us.
The drinking out of the bowl thing was trying way to hard to be 'Animal' all caveman-like and dedicated to his 'craft'. Eating tuna at 10:30 in the morning it was all so pre-digested. On the same level as MuscleTechs 'secrets of the pros' video that came out a few yrs back.
I agree with Sf. Lose the 'Hollywood Hogan' 5:00 shadow and the gay earring and burn the string top NPC wear and spandex Otomix gear.
Next I was waiting for the construction boots and the Daisy Duke cut off jean shorts with the suspenders and camoflauge doo-rag.
Looked like late 90's FLEX Magazine laten homosexual Nasser photoshoot. You were missing the huge thick scrunched down purple SOCKS.
I think they also looked like they seen one to many training videos and tried to emulate their 'heros'. Facial expressions, on the couch interview, the closeups...the look of pain on their faces. Artificial.
Oh, the 'diesel tattoo on the skinny homo trying too hard was as gay as an 'OVERCOME' tattoo on the inner forearm.
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I have a hard time believing that all of you criticizing Dave's apparel and form all workout with perfect textbook form in only the most tastefully coordinated workout outfits! Gimme a break!
I usually wear this same outfit but in red
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OK Dave is no fashion icon that's for sure
so he is stuck in the 80's ......who cares what he wears
i didn't notice any gay shit in that clip (except maybe that skinny kid with "Diesel" Tattooed on his arm)
so Daves form sucks..............this isnt a training tape
give it a chance!
That's a good point Mike. This isn't an instructional video in any way. It's a documentary. This DVD is merely about what happened when a lifelong bb atempts to push himself to the next level at 41 years of age. No one is holding Dave up as a paragon of fashion or form.
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Yup.
Oh, the 'diesel tattoo on the skinny homo trying too hard was as gay as an 'OVERCOME' tattoo on the inner forearm.
The closeup of the tattoo was meant to be ironic. Didn't think I'd have to explain that.
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No, I got that...that did make me chuckle as I thought the camera guy had a great eye and sense of humor.
I seen guys in the gym smaller than that with the ol 'bent barbell' on their arms or upper back.
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lmao!!! daaaaaaaamn!!!! thank god im not overly sensative!! you guys are brutal!! loL!!
however, i am guilty as charged on all accusation. i admit i am still stuck in 80's gym fashion. im working on that. my form on everything has been personlized and modified over the years and is, admittedly far from textbook on alot of movements. but, as was mentioned, alot of those clips are out of context and are triple sets and drop sets etc, so the weights arent monstrous and the form...well it works for me.
drinking out of a bowl is not done for effect. ive been doing that for years only because its easier to get all the powder into a bowl rather than a mixing cup. lol!
in fact, nothing in that clip is done for effect. im not putting on faces on purpose or "trying to look like" anything. its just me being me. sorry if it came across otherwise...
arvilla, thanks for the love,,bro...lol!!
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No, I got that...that did make me chuckle as I thought the camera guy had a great eye and sense of humor.
I seen guys in the gym smaller than that with the ol 'bent barbell' on their arms or upper back.
Yeah, that stuff always cracks me up too.
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lmao!!! daaaaaaaamn!!!! thank god im not overly sensative!! you guys are brutal!! loL!!
however, i am guilty as charged on all accusation. i admit i am still stuck in 80's gym fashion. im working on that. my form on everything has been personlized and modified over the years and is, admittedly far from textbook on alot of movements. but, as was mentioned, alot of those clips are out of context and are triple sets and drop sets etc, so the weights arent monstrous and the form...well it works for me.
drinking out of a bowl is not done for effect. ive been doing that for years only because its easier to get all the powder into a bowl rather than a mixing cup. lol!
in fact, nothing in that clip is done for effect. im not putting on faces on purpose or "trying to look like" anything. its just me being me. sorry if it came across otherwise...
arvilla, thanks for the love,,bro...lol!!
I think going semi-loose and fast is fine on certain movements, some of the time but not always... going lighter and slower has it's place absolutely... esp on things like leg extensions
The bowl thing is a good idea IMO...
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I think going semi-loose and fast is fine on certain movements, some of the time but not always... going lighter and slower has it's place absolutely... esp on things like leg extensions
The bowl thing is a good idea IMO...
thanks, i have found over the years that the loose rhythmic type style really does work on many movements ( not all. i would never do that on, say, dumbell flys)
also, it may surprise many on this board that i have been trining like this since the early 80's and have never had a major injury or torn muscle.
the bowl thing?/ it just works! lol! its easy....
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He needs to learn how to train better
needs to lean what inertia is ...he should be going slower and focus on the eccentric movements and control of the weights..
Damn right, SP. 5 seconds in and I'm thinking WTF, this is farking horrible. Maybe all the spandex saves his joints from breakdown, or something.
/course, i suppose, i'm not trying to 'get to the next level' or whatever, so what do i know
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This guy does the best editing, camera work and narration that I have seen in bodybuilding.
He's very, very talented.
Good work and 2 big thumbs up!
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Scott
www.bodybuildersreality. com
www.fitnessandfigurereal ity.com
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The CLOSEUP of the leg extension scene was for 'schomes only'. I guess to make some money they have to appeal to the homos so...
I never seen such awful form on standing dumbbell lateral raises or even seated leg curls.
I also thought the NPC 'wear' and the spandez 'OTOMIX' get-up went out 6 years ago?
Then the 'interview' on the ever so comfy looking couch and camera close up of their face showing them resting in between sets holding a look of deep concentration and pain.
Thumbs down.
HAHAHAHAHA!
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This guy does the best editing, camera work and narration that I have seen in bodybuilding.
He's very, very talented.
Good work and 2 big thumbs up!
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Scott
www.bodybuildersreality. com
www.fitnessandfigurereal ity.com
Wow! Thanks Scott! That means alot coming from you. I can't wait for you to see some of the other footage I got backstage at the Masters Nationals.
It's taking me two years to make RTB2. You and your crew produce funny, entertaining and inspiring mini-docs like this MONTHLY! Don't know how you do it!
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also, it may surprise many on this board that i have been trining like this since the early 80's and have never had a major injury or torn muscle.
I noticed that the shape of the right bicep was a bit "strange" in the dumbell extension. I thought it was a tear? A lot of oil in the biceps? The shape seems distorted.
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I noticed that the shape of the right bicep was a bit "strange" in the dumbell extension. I thought it was a tear? A lot of oil in the biceps? The shape seems distorted.
nope. no tear. i have a tendon or some sort of band of connective tissue that runs across my bicep and, in certain positions, kind of cuts it in 2 halves, upper and lower. i hate it but cant do anything about it.
www.davepulcinella.com
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You should lay off the anadrol for a while - no ones face should be that red. The vid looks good though, at least you have a 'dream' and are working towards it. Good luck.
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i would hate to have to workout in that gym
Totally agreeded.
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the drinking of liquid diarrhea in a bowl was just the cherry on top of the cake
now thats hardcore
lmao
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Mike, very good job. makes me wanna go tear up the legs at the gym tonight.
This clip is so 1995, and i mean that in a good way, the clothes, the gym, everything. Very cool and motivating, i guess i say that cause those we my best years in the gym ;D
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Mike, very good job. makes me wanna go tear up the legs at the gym tonight.
This clip is so 1995, and i mean that in a good way, the clothes, the gym, everything. Very cool and motivating, i guess i say that cause those we my best years in the gym ;D
Thanks Freak. I guess we all can tend to get a little stuck on the fashions of our best years. They shouldn't fault Dave for that. He is an eloquent guy who is passionate about his sport. And I'm not just saying that because he's my bro. I have done other documentaries on other topics and believe me, it's hard to find a good subject who is comfortable on camera and can express his or herself as well as Dave...whether or not they are sitting on a "comfy couch"!
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Mike, he is ego training on the pull downs..
what results? he looks like a typical gym rat on gear..nothing special
ladies and gentlemen of the jury, i give you exhibit A: "TYPICAL GYM RAT"..DAVE PULCINELLA....
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epic trying to emulate Dorian Yates, brutal synthol in the delts, monster 16 inch arms, savage purple skin, he is one ugly dude.
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epic trying to emulate Dorian Yates, brutal synthol in the delts, monster 16 inch arms, savage purple skin, he is one ugly dude.
so, does that mean you like my look?!?!?!?!?!? lol!!
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epic trying to emulate Dorian Yates, brutal synthol in the delts, monster 16 inch arms, savage purple skin, he is one ugly dude.
Man, you are so jealous I can smell it from here. Let's see your pix. I dare you to post some. Let's see how far your attention to perfect form and the latest gym fashion have gotten you.
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Let's see your pix. I dare you to post some.
The muthafuckas up in this crip don't dare.
Although your physique is not the most "pleasing" to look at, I commend you, Dave.
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The muthafuckas up in this crip don't dare.
Although your physique is not the most "pleasing" to look at, I commend you, Dave.
thank you....how hard is it for these people to just say a little something positive like that?
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thank you....how hard is it for these people to just say a little something positive like that?
Welcome to GETBIG!
How did you get so dry? Don't pull our dicks here, Dave this isn't MAYHEM. How did you get so dry? Outline a little of your last week of the prep and include water amounts, carb and diuretics/drugs.
It's okay it's no secret here...I know Taraxatone and Hydroxycut Hardcore had nothing to do with anything.
Straight up.
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Welcome to GETBIG!
How did you get so dry? Don't pull our dicks here, Dave this isn't MAYHEM. How did you get so dry? Outline a little of your last week of the prep and include water amounts, carb and diuretics/drugs.
It's okay it's no secret here...I know Taraxatone and Hydroxycut Hardcore had nothing to do with anything.
Straight up.
Speak on this, Dave... with NO MuscleTech bullshit.
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Dave/Mike..new DVD looks good...Looking forward to it, I still watch RTB #1 good motivation...any more sushi scenes?
Did Al's shoulder heal 100%--heard he is doing the Arnold Amateur...(wish him the best, he will do very good)
Dave see you at Master Nationals & the North America..and don't think about dropping down to the
light-heavy class...that's my game LOL!
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The muthafuckas up in this crip don't dare.
Then they have no credibility whatsoever. It's easy (and childish) to snipe at someone. If they can't prove that their methods produce result superior to those pix of Dave then...end of thread.
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Dave/Mike..new DVD looks good...Looking forward to it, I still watch RTB #1 good motivation...any more sushi scenes?
Did Al's shoulder heal 100%--heard he is doing the Arnold Amateur...(wish him the best, he will do very good)
Dave see you at Master Nationals & the North America..and don't think about dropping down to the
light-heavy class...that's my game LOL!
Ha! Thanks BigAnt. No more sushi scenes but plenty of other tasty stuff. You'll see. Don't know how Al's shoulder is doing. Dave'll have to answer that one.
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This thread isn't finished yet.
Dave,
How do you get so dry? We're all big kids here. We threw away our FLEX magazines and GNC Gold Card years ago. Wassup? How did you get so dry?
How much cardio did you do and I don't feel good going over 100mcg of clen daily...how much did you go up to and do you cycle it 2 weeks on 2 weeks off or do you do 2 days ON one day OFF for 4 weeks?
I heard if you add 'zediten' to your clen cycle you can stay on longer.
Did you use cytomel? T3? i never used that but I have access to it how do you reccomend using it?
Be straight...GETBIg respects honesty and being REAL. Go to Mayhem if you want 'great job!' 'You look fantastic!' 'Way to go!'
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Mike, you hear back from Adam Gamido yet?
LOL
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This thread isn't finished yet.
Dave,
How do you get so dry? We're all big kids here. We threw away our FLEX magazines and GNC Gold Card years ago. Wassup? How did you get so dry?
How much cardio did you do and I don't feel good going over 100mcg of clen daily...how much did you go up to and do you cycle it 2 weeks on 2 weeks off or do you do 2 days ON one day OFF for 4 weeks?
I heard if you add 'zediten' to your clen cycle you can stay on longer.
Did you use cytomel? T3? i never used that but I have access to it how do you reccomend using it?
Be straight...GETBIg respects honesty and being REAL. Go to Mayhem if you want 'great job!' 'You look fantastic!' 'Way to go!'
lol!! bro, i know how it is here on getbig. ive been reading it for years!! its part of why i prefer it over other boards. actually, i think you guys are funny as shit and ive spent the last day and a half reading your responses and laughing harder than i have in a long time! i dont take any of it personally. you dont have to stroke my ego. i know where my faults lie. I CANT TAKE THE HEAT!!! LOL!!
anyway, to answer your questions. bro, i have no problem telling you like it is. i dont give a shit. i will outline anything i do. first off, i want to list the things i do NOT use:
1) any fatburners you can buy over the counter.
2) t-3,4,5, or whatever! did it once, burnt all my muscles away
3) clen. dont like the way it makes me feel. havent touched it since 1991.
4) anything with stimulants in it. cant deal with how i feel on it.
ok, heres what i really believe is the key to my dryness and y'all are gonna probably make fun of me for it, cause its not drug related. dont get me wrong. i do everything everyone else does "supp" wise. its just that i dont believe thats what gives me my dry , crisp look. plenty of guys do all the drugs, then show up fat and watery. weve all seen it.
i start no less than 20 weeks out. i truly eat nothing but 6 foods from day 1, till the show. i drink nothing but water. and i start cardio off slowly, but i end up doing 45 minutes in the am and 30 in the pm, 7 days a week from 8 weeks out till the day of the show. i have found that , if you remove EVERY LAST BIT OF FAT FROM YOUR BODY, YOUR DRY OUT WILL HAPPEN ALMOST EFFORTLESSLY. the more fat you have come dry out time, the harder it will be to get dry. just that simple. i truly do not stop until the skin on my "trouble spots" is as thin as the skin on the back of my hand. then i know im ready!
now, i will sit back and wait to get blasted for not revealing my secret drug weapon!! lol!!!
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I watched it real quick yesturday, one run through...didn't take notes or anything. seemed ok to me, I didn't like the form on some things but I don't believe in ultra strict form all the time...a little body english never hurt anyone, maybe some of the stuff in the vid was a little much for me but, hey...it works for this guy, he looked pretty good.
honestly, it's a BB video, the general public is never gonna see it, I don't think it's supposed to appeal to the general public so I didn't even look at it that way.
I thought it was good for what it is, pretty intense training...I didn't get the drinking out of the bowl either but hey, what do I know...
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Mike, you hear back from Adam Gamido yet?
LOL
LOL! Dude, NO ONE has! We think he moved away or something. Since the day he snuck out of the Delaware there have been no Adam sightings...in or out of the gym.
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lol!! bro, i know how it is here on getbig. ive been reading it for years!! its part of why i prefer it over other boards. actually, i think you guys are funny as shit and ive spent the last day and a half reading your responses and laughing harder than i have in a long time! i dont take any of it personally. you dont have to stroke my ego. i know where my faults lie. I CANT TAKE THE HEAT!!! LOL!!
anyway, to answer your questions. bro, i have no problem telling you like it is. i dont give a shit. i will outline anything i do. first off, i want to list the things i do NOT use:
1) any fatburners you can buy over the counter.
2) t-3,4,5, or whatever! did it once, burnt all my muscles away
3) clen. dont like the way it makes me feel. havent touched it since 1991.
4) anything with stimulants in it. cant deal with how i feel on it.
ok, heres what i really believe is the key to my dryness and y'all are gonna probably make fun of me for it, cause its not drug related. dont get me wrong. i do everything everyone else does "supp" wise. its just that i dont believe thats what gives me my dry , crisp look. plenty of guys do all the drugs, then show up fat and watery. weve all seen it.
i start no less than 20 weeks out. i truly eat nothing but 6 foods from day 1, till the show. i drink nothing but water. and i start cardio off slowly, but i end up doing 45 minutes in the am and 30 in the pm, 7 days a week from 8 weeks out till the day of the show. i have found that , if you remove EVERY LAST BIT OF FAT FROM YOUR BODY, YOUR DRY OUT WILL HAPPEN ALMOST EFFORTLESSLY. the more fat you have come dry out time, the harder it will be to get dry. just that simple. i truly do not stop until the skin on my "trouble spots" is as thin as the skin on the back of my hand. then i know im ready!
now, i will sit back and wait to get blasted for not revealing my secret drug weapon!! lol!!!
Nope! I respect that.
I also respect how you appreciate GETBIG and the humor here. You have THIN skin for the stage but THICK skin here which is good.
20 weeks out. Interesting. I like how you said you literalyhave to eliminate ALL the bodyfat to look dry. NOBODY can be 8-10% and be DRY. You have to get down to under 5-6% to have that elusive but much appreciated look.
Thanks for the cardio outline. I do the opposite though as I start out with 40-50 minutes 5-6 days a week and 20 after training to taper down until 2 weeks out I am just doing 30 minutes in the morning 4-5 days a week. Gives me the option of tweaking and making adjustments based on my BF.
Are you a believer of the STEPMILL and do you do cardio on leg day and/or the day after?
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it's a BB video, the general public is never gonna see it,
I really appreciate the comments natural al, but I would like to clarify one thing (not just to you al, but to some of the negative posters)...this is not intended to be a BB video. It's a documentary that just happens to be about BB and I hope that is does eventually get to be seen by a wider audience. I think that's a key difference. It's not an instructional video. This is the way Dave trains and the way he eats whether or not I and my camera are there. Nothing is done for effect. This is just the way he is and always will be and I was doing my best to capture that as accurately as I could.
We are not presenting this as "This is the way YOU should train." His style of contest prep (and fashion!) is very idiosyncratic and personal and developed over many MANY years of doing this. If he drinks out of a bowl it is only because that's the best way to get that much protein slop into his body at one time, not to impress me or you. His focus is only on what has proven to work for him.
As I said previously, this was probably not the best clip to release first because it is a workout segment and in some ways very similar to many other bb videos. If I ever get done this thing I think you will see that I am trying to present a bit more than the usual bb vid. Whether or not I succeed y'all can decide when you see it.
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I have a suggestion: How about the marketing angle of WIIFT? (What's in it for them)
BBs are so self absorbed. What not "teach" other and using language that supports that?
Who really cares about him? The buyers wants to know how THEY are going to benefit from the DVD.
Just my two cents.
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Dave/Mike..new DVD looks good...Looking forward to it, I still watch RTB #1 good motivation...any more sushi scenes?
Did Al's shoulder heal 100%--heard he is doing the Arnold Amateur...(wish him the best, he will do very good)
Dave see you at Master Nationals & the North America..and don't think about dropping down to the
light-heavy class...that's my game LOL!
yo!! big ant!! wassup!!!??
al's shoulder is 100% healed and hes doing great! hes about 240 and looking fairly hard. we will see if he can put it all together for the arnold.
as for you and me and the north amercans...i believe we should stay in our respective classes and "divide and conquer" lol!
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Nope! I respect that.
I also respect how you appreciate GETBIG and the humor here. You have THIN skin for the stage but THICK skin here which is good.
20 weeks out. Interesting. I like how you said you literalyhave to eliminate ALL the bodyfat to look dry. NOBODY can be 8-10% and be DRY. You have to get down to under 5-6% to have that elusive but much appreciated look.
Thanks for the cardio outline. I do the opposite though as I start out with 40-50 minutes 5-6 days a week and 20 after training to taper down until 2 weeks out I am just doing 30 minutes in the morning 4-5 days a week. Gives me the option of tweaking and making adjustments based on my BF.
Are you a believer of the STEPMILL and do you do cardio on leg day and/or the day after?
yeah, man. ive been at this too long to give a shit about a few people throwing insulting jokes around. its all good. plus, like i said, you guys are funny as hell!
what i neglected to mention is that i always make sure im show-ready 5 weeks out. then, i slowly back the cardio down and increase my calories from that point on. i agree that it allows you to make adjustments without being in a panic that youre "not gonna make it"
in regards to your method of cardio, i feel that if i start high like that, going from nothing to alot all at once, i lose lean mass as its too much of an immediate trauma. the LEAST AMOUNT NECESSARY FOR RESULT.. is what i always do. when that stops working, i increase slightly. i just keep repeating this cycle till i reach my max cardio output.
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I really appreciate the comments natural al, but I would like to clarify one thing (not just to you al, but to some of the negative posters)...this is not intended to be a BB video. It's a documentary that just happens to be about BB and I hope that is does eventually get to be seen by a wider audience. I think that's a key difference. It's not an instructional video. This is the way Dave trains and the way he eats whether or not I and my camera are there. Nothing is done for effect. This is just the way he is and always will be and I was doing my best to capture that as accurately as I could.
We are not presenting this as "This is the way YOU should train." His style of contest prep (and fashion!) is very idiosyncratic and personal and developed over many MANY years of doing this. If he drinks out of a bowl it is only because that's the best way to get that much protein slop into his body at one time, not to impress me or you. His focus is only on what has proven to work for him.
As I said previously, this was probably not the best clip to release first because it is a workout segment and in some ways very similar to many other bb videos. If I ever get done this thing I think you will see that I am trying to present a bit more than the usual bb vid. Whether or not I succeed y'all can decide when you see it.
I getcha...like I said I just kinda glanced at it, if it's a documentary then more power to you guys. Dude trains HARD regardless of the form he uses...I thought it was good.
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I have a suggestion: How about the marketing angle of WIIFT? (What's in it for them)
BBs are so self absorbed. What not "teach" other and using language that supports that?
Who really cares about him? The buyers wants to know how THEY are going to benefit from the DVD.
Just my two cents.
Good point. However, I would say that WIIFT is the same thing that's in it for them when they watch any kind of documentary...a look into a world you might not be aware of (March of the Penguins) or the real story of an event you thought you knew about (When the Levees Broke) or an exploration of the personality, drives and motivations of real people (Hoop Dreams). That's what's in it.
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I getcha...like I said I just kinda glanced at it, if it's a documentary then more power to you guys. Dude trains HARD regardless of the form he uses...I thought it was good.
Thanks buddy. That clip was about showing intensity and it makes me feel good that you got that from it.
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Thanks buddy. That clip was about showing intensity and it makes me feel good that you got that from it.
you don't have to be 100% strict in the gym at all times, like I said his form is a little loose for my tastes but if it works for him then great. People need to realize that you can do things 150% different than someone else and still get results, it's about finding what works for you, there isn't one good way to build muscle...there's a ton of different roads to choose. I didn't see enought footage to give advice or put the guy down, I'm sure he'd still be busting his balls if he was going super strict. Anyone who can train that hard, even if it's only for short periods of time is ok in my book.
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This was the first and hopelfully the last time I saw someone actually cheating on leg extensions LOL
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you don't have to be 100% strict in the gym at all times, like I said his form is a little loose for my tastes but if it works for him then great. People need to realize that you can do things 150% different than someone else and still get results, it's about finding what works for you, there isn't one good way to build muscle...there's a ton of different roads to choose. I didn't see enought footage to give advice or put the guy down, I'm sure he'd still be busting his balls if he was going super strict. Anyone who can train that hard, even if it's only for short periods of time is ok in my book.
That's nice of you to say but what is surprising to me about all of this controversy is that no one commented on the actual topic of the clip...the difficulty of finding good workout partners. All they concentrated on was his form and his clothes. Surface stuff. That bothers me from a moviemaker's point of view. That means I didn't get my point across.
Isn't finding someone who is dedicated and will show up on time something that you guys struggle with constantly? Or do most of you work out solo?
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The video in itself looks well produced man, thats all fine :)
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It's really hard to find a "good" training partner...i've been through so many it's retarded.
i was training with some upper level power lifters for a while and i was making insane gains. work schedules messed that all up.
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This was the first and hopelfully the last time I saw someone actually cheating on leg extensions LOL
bro, do me a favor. get under a 300 lb stack on a leg extension machine, imitate my form and get 50 reps like i do. i swear to you, there is nothing like the pain you will experience in your quads. ONLY YOUR QUADS. NOT YOUR LOWER BACK ETC, IF YOURE DOING IT RIGHT!
ive NEVER gotten that feeling from doing them "textbook"..seriously!
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lol!! bro, i know how it is here on getbig. ive been reading it for years!! its part of why i prefer it over other boards. actually, i think you guys are funny as shit and ive spent the last day and a half reading your responses and laughing harder than i have in a long time! i dont take any of it personally. you dont have to stroke my ego. i know where my faults lie. I CANT TAKE THE HEAT!!! LOL!!
anyway, to answer your questions. bro, i have no problem telling you like it is. i dont give a shit. i will outline anything i do. first off, i want to list the things i do NOT use:
1) any fatburners you can buy over the counter.
2) t-3,4,5, or whatever! did it once, burnt all my muscles away
3) clen. dont like the way it makes me feel. havent touched it since 1991.
4) anything with stimulants in it. cant deal with how i feel on it.
ok, heres what i really believe is the key to my dryness and y'all are gonna probably make fun of me for it, cause its not drug related. dont get me wrong. i do everything everyone else does "supp" wise. its just that i dont believe thats what gives me my dry , crisp look. plenty of guys do all the drugs, then show up fat and watery. weve all seen it.
i start no less than 20 weeks out. i truly eat nothing but 6 foods from day 1, till the show. i drink nothing but water. and i start cardio off slowly, but i end up doing 45 minutes in the am and 30 in the pm, 7 days a week from 8 weeks out till the day of the show. i have found that , if you remove EVERY LAST BIT OF FAT FROM YOUR BODY, YOUR DRY OUT WILL HAPPEN ALMOST EFFORTLESSLY. the more fat you have come dry out time, the harder it will be to get dry. just that simple. i truly do not stop until the skin on my "trouble spots" is as thin as the skin on the back of my hand. then i know im ready!
now, i will sit back and wait to get blasted for not revealing my secret drug weapon!! lol!!!
And that's why I respect ya, Dave. You one cool muthafucka! 8)
You keep it real, without givin' a fuck.
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And that's why I respect ya, Dave. You one cool muthafucka! 8)
You keep it real, without givin' a f**k.
THANKS, BRO!!!!...I TRY!
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By the way, Dave... your brother BEST use Getbig as an outlet to notify us its official release.
I'm waitin' on this shit, holmes.
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By the way, Dave... your brother BEST use Getbig as an outlet to notify us its official release.
I'm waitin' on this shit, holmes.
Will do P! I'm working on it right now!!
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That's nice of you to say but what is surprising to me about all of this controversy is that no one commented on the actual topic of the clip...the difficulty of finding good workout partners. All they concentrated on was his form and his clothes. Surface stuff. That bothers me from a moviemaker's point of view. That means I didn't get my point across.
Isn't finding someone who is dedicated and will show up on time something that you guys struggle with constantly? Or do most of you work out solo?
I havent' had a workout partner in 13 years so it doesn't even enter my mind. I honestly don't think anyone would want to do what I do when I do it, nobody I see training when I'm trianing could do what I want to do in the gym.
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yo!! big ant!! wassup!!!??
al's shoulder is 100% healed and hes doing great! hes about 240 and looking fairly hard. we will see if he can put it all together for the arnold.
as for you and me and the north amercans...i believe we should stay in our respective classes and "divide and conquer" lol!
Dave;
You where on last year!
Just bring the same package...and please take it easy on me in the Overall pose down LOL!
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bro, do me a favor. get under a 300 lb stack on a leg extension machine, imitate my form and get 50 reps like i do. i swear to you, there is nothing like the pain you will experience in your quads. ONLY YOUR QUADS. NOT YOUR LOWER BACK ETC, IF YOURE DOING IT RIGHT!
ive NEVER gotten that feeling from doing them "textbook"..seriously!
In RTB #1 Dave has-had his share of injuries, he is doing what works best for him. And it is working. I did train in the off-season with him and Al. They don't train all that sloppy, just enough cheat to kick through the sticking point!
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I havent' had a workout partner in 13 years so it doesn't even enter my mind. I honestly don't think anyone would want to do what I do when I do it, nobody I see training when I'm trianing could do what I want to do in the gym.
And you don't ever feel like you could use one from time to time? To help motivate you and help force out extra reps?
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In RTB #1 Dave has-had his share of injuries, he is doing what works best for him. And it is working. I did train in the off-season with him and Al. They don't train all that sloppy, just enough cheat to kick through the sticking point!
BigAnt makes a good point. As a filmmaker I was looking for the wildest sets, the most intensity. I probably ended up choosing all the sets with the loosest form because that's where he's pushing himself the hardest. In the earlier sets his form is much better...but that don't make for good video. So, it's MY fault y'all think he's sloppy! ;-)
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Yo Dave,
You now where to go if you wanna train.Its on your way to golds.lol
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lmao!!! daaaaaaaamn!!!! thank god im not overly sensative!! you guys are brutal!! loL!!
however, i am guilty as charged on all accusation. i admit i am still stuck in 80's gym fashion. im working on that. my form on everything has been personlized and modified over the years and is, admittedly far from textbook on alot of movements. but, as was mentioned, alot of those clips are out of context and are triple sets and drop sets etc, so the weights arent monstrous and the form...well it works for me.
drinking out of a bowl is not done for effect. ive been doing that for years only because its easier to get all the powder into a bowl rather than a mixing cup. lol!
in fact, nothing in that clip is done for effect. im not putting on faces on purpose or "trying to look like" anything. its just me being me. sorry if it came across otherwise...
arvilla, thanks for the love,,bro...lol!!
When they make(or if they make) a Titus movie. Make sure you show up and try to land the role...Talk to Chick about it...Your almost a spitting image of titus..
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whats your point, rami?!?!?
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that is a still shot of 1 rep of one of my sets, obviously posted to try to make me look silly.this was my heaviest set, which, by the way, was a set of 20 reps with a 400 lb. stack, so sue me if i use body english. all i know is when im done, my lats are swollen like a stuffed thanksgiving turkey! lol! get your head out of the textbook and into a goddam gym!
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that is a still shot of 1 rep of one of my sets, obviously posted to try to make me look silly.this was my heaviest set, which, by the way, was a set of 20 reps with a 400 lb. stack, so sue me if i use body english. all i know is when im done, my lats are swollen like a stuffed thanksgiving turkey! lol! get your head out of the textbook and into a goddam gym!
Body english!? LOL Wow, you could be on a dolly underneath a car with such 'english.'
/you seem to be reponding to criticism well. good on ya
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Hey! Who posted that still?? That's copyright infringement!! I'll sue yur ass!! ;-)
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This guy needs someone to show him CORRECT FORM to lift weights!!! What the hell?
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By the way, as an outsider to the world of bodybuilding and a lover of internet bulletin board debates, I gotta tell ya...this is the stupidest argument ever! It's the RESULTS that count. I just don't see the sense in deriding someone's exercise form (or pants) when it clearly has produced the body that wins competitions. It doesn't make any sense to me.
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I thought the same shit when I saw your performance on this exercise, Dave.
I was like, 'WTF!?!?', but if that shit and form works for you then go on with yo bad self. 8)
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I thought the same shit when I saw your performance on this exercise, Dave.
I was like, 'WTF!?!?', but if that shit and form works for you then go on with yo bad self. 8)
look. i have modified my form on most movements over the years to suit me. i go by feel and how damned sore i get in the target muscle the next 2 days. plain and simple.
look at that still shot for a moment, please. isnt that the same exact anatomical position as a seated row? arent seated rows for back?? yes!
so, lets not call what i am doing "pulldowns", cause theyre not! theyre clearly not pulldowns. lets call them "ROW-DOWNS" ..they are "dave row-downs"
now...look again at that still shot, and you will see i am doing perfect "textbook form on ROW-DOWNS!!
I HOPE THIS MAKES EVERYONE HAPPY.
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This guy needs someone to show him CORRECT FORM to lift weights!!! What the hell?
lol!!! no one needs to SHOW me anything, bro. this year is my 30th year in the gym. i have won 2 state overalls, 2 east coast overalls and 3 national titles. google me. please. lol! if you really think i should, ill hire a personal trainer and have him write me up one of those little yellow cards and start all over again!
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look. i have modified my form on most movements over the years to suit me. i go by feel and how damned sore i get in the target muscle the next 2 days. plain and simple.
look at that still shot for a moment, please. isnt that the same exact anatomical position as a seated row? arent seated rows for back?? yes!
so, lets not call what i am doing "pulldowns", cause theyre not! theyre clearly not pulldowns. lets call them "ROW-DOWNS" ..they are "dave row-downs"
now...look again at that still shot, and you will see i am doing perfect "textbook form on ROW-DOWNS!!
I HOPE THIS MAKES EVERYONE HAPPY.
Dave Pulcinella Row-downs!! That's funny! Y'all should be taking notes instead of sniping. You'll see all the wannabes doing this exact movement next week.
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look. i have modified my form on most movements over the years to suit me. i go by feel and how damned sore i get in the target muscle the next 2 days. plain and simple.
look at that still shot for a moment, please. isnt that the same exact anatomical position as a seated row? arent seated rows for back?? yes!
so, lets not call what i am doing "pulldowns", cause theyre not! theyre clearly not pulldowns. lets call them "ROW-DOWNS" ..they are "dave row-downs"
now...look again at that still shot, and you will see i am doing perfect "textbook form on ROW-DOWNS!!
I HOPE THIS MAKES EVERYONE HAPPY.
That's what I'm sayin', playa. If that shit works for ya, keep it up.
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Dude, if you're going to market some kind of training video, at least use DECENT form. The pulldowns and laterals are what I'd expect a 15 year old noob to be doing, and I was significantly stronger when I was 19 friggin years old! Natural! I guess I can't bitch too much about the light weights/over emphasis on machine work, but damn at least use some proper form.
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Dave Pulcinella Row-downs!! That's funny! Y'all should be taking notes instead of sniping. You'll see all the wannabes doing this exact movement next week.
Did you say taking notes? Good lord man, MONSTER DELUSIONS. Before you start griping, I was taught more or less perfect form by my best friend who is a physical therapy assistant, and TRUST me your form is terrible. Forced reps on leg extensions?! Followed by SMITH MACHINE squats? Have you and your knees always hated each other, or what? I hate to knock a brother, but you put a video out there, expect some criticism.
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Dude, if you're going to market some kind of training video, at least use DECENT form. The pulldowns and laterals are what I'd expect a 15 year old noob to be doing, and I was significantly stronger when I was 19 friggin years old! Natural! I guess I can't bitch too much about the light weights/over emphasis on machine work, but damn at least use some proper form.
My comment you quoted was a joke. If you had read through the thread before you posted you would have seen that I have emphatically stated that this is NOT a training video. It is a documentary about a particular person who works in a particular way. We are not suggesting that you do ANYTHING the way Dave does...unless you'd like to win something.
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My comment you quoted was a joke. If you had read through the thread before you posted you would have seen that I have emphatically stated that this is NOT a training video. It is a documentary about a particular person who works in a particular way. We are not suggesting that you do ANYTHING the way Dave does...unless you'd like to win something.
So it's like a comraderie film then? Interesting. Your form sucks, whether you get good results from it or not, but whatever I hope you make some scratch, lord knows most bbers make zippo despite their best efforts.
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So it's like a comraderie film then? Interesting. Your form sucks, whether you get good results from it or not, but whatever I hope you make some scratch, lord knows most bbers make zippo despite their best efforts.
What's a comraderie film? It's a documentary.
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Did you say taking notes? Good lord man, MONSTER DELUSIONS. Before you start griping, I was taught more or less perfect form by my best friend who is a physical therapy assistant, and TRUST me your form is terrible. Forced reps on leg extensions?! Followed by SMITH MACHINE squats? Have you and your knees always hated each other, or what? I hate to knock a brother, but you put a video out there, expect some criticism.
methyl mike, this is dave pulcinella. i , too was well schooled on anatomy, physiology, biomechanics. believe it or not, i have degrees in these subjects and teach them for a living!!! thats right! lol!! i was shown how to do "proper form" back in the 70's bro. im well aware of "scapular retraction, upper body at a 45 degree angle etc etc so on...i CHOOSE to do my pulldowns this way...why? because it goddam works. every advanced trainer ive ever shown how to do these "row-downs" has been unable to lift his arms over his head for almost a week afterwards due to soreness.
by the way,since you have taken the time to advise me... let me give YOU some advice. heres the advice: its ok to think outside the box every once in a while. sometimes you must reinvent the wheel to get beyond your current plane...i know proper form inside and out, ive done it for years. what i do now..... wayyyyyyyy better!!
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Did you say taking notes? Good lord man, MONSTER DELUSIONS. Before you start griping, I was taught more or less perfect form by my best friend who is a physical therapy assistant, and TRUST me your form is terrible. Forced reps on leg extensions?! Followed by SMITH MACHINE squats? Have you and your knees always hated each other, or what? I hate to knock a brother, but you put a video out there, expect some criticism.
I 'd love to hear from you what the fook is wrong with leg extension with some forced reps, then going to smith machine squats. ??? Although I agree his form is not the best, to say the least - hey! the guy himself admmited that, but if it works for him and he's injury free, more power to him - I can't say what's wrong with these 2 exercises. Forced reps on leg extensions works wonders, they are truly friers on the thighs.
Re smith squats, EVERY bodybuilder on earth regularly does it / does it from time to time. That's nothing wrong with that exercise. Although I prefer free squats, smith machine squats give a nice change of pace with a lot of muscle stimmulation. Even Ronnie Coleman does it from time to time - whatch that DVD he filmed with Tony Doherty following the '05 O, in Australia.
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I think that as soon as you decide that there is only ONE way to do ANYTHING you have limited what you can achieve. Experimentation and adaptation are the key to success in anything you do. Bodybuilding is about pushing the body to its limits, not about playing it safe.
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I 'd love to hear from you what the fook is wrong with leg extension with some forced reps, then going to smith machine squats. ???
Nothing at all, but what Methyl Mike didn't understand was that what he was seeing was a montage of many workouts with many different workout partners. It was not a continuous series of exercises nor was it meant to imply a recommendation for a workout. Either he didn't watch the whole clip or because so many bb vids have so little editing in them it threw Mike off to see one that compressed several workouts into 4 minutes.
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lol!!! no one needs to SHOW me anything, bro. this year is my 30th year in the gym. i have won 2 state overalls, 2 east coast overalls and 3 national titles. google me. please. lol! if you really think i should, ill hire a personal trainer and have him write me up one of those little yellow cards and start all over again!
Dave I'm comming down there to teach you "proper form"
ill only charge you $100.00 per hr
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I 'd love to hear from you what the fook is wrong with leg extension with some forced reps, then going to smith machine squats. ??? Although I agree his form is not the best, to say the least - hey! the guy himself admmited that, but if it works for him and he's injury free, more power to him - I can't say what's wrong with these 2 exercises. Forced reps on leg extensions works wonders, they are truly friers on the thighs.
Re smith squats, EVERY bodybuilder on earth regularly does it / does it from time to time. That's nothing wrong with that exercise. Although I prefer free squats, smith machine squats give a nice change of pace with a lot of muscle stimmulation. Even Ronnie Coleman does it from time to time - whatch that DVD he filmed with Tony Doherty following the '05 O, in Australia.
yep. i was thinking that too. what the hell is so wrong about pre-exhausting with extensions, then going to smith squats!!!?? lol!! i guess it doesnt jive with the little rule book he has in his head.
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Dave I'm comming down there to teach you "proper form"
ill only charge you $100.00 per hr
ILL PAY 200!!!!!!! YOU FREAK!!!
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OK, I HAVE SEEN THE ERRORS OF MY WAYS. I KNOW NOW THAT I WILL NEVER DEVELOP A BIG BACK USING THESE "IMPROPER" TECHNIQUES. THIS IS AS GOOD AS IT WILL EVER GET. IM GONNA GO SUCK CAR FUMES...
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OK, I HAVE SEEN THE ERRORS OF MY WAYS. I KNOW NOW THAT I WILL NEVER DEVELOP A BIG BACK USING THESE "IMPROPER" TECHNIQUES. THIS IS AS GOOD AS IT WILL EVER GET. IM GONNA GO SUCK CAR FUMES...
you could play handball or show a movie on that freaking back!!
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And you don't ever feel like you could use one from time to time? To help motivate you and help force out extra reps?
I understand what you're saying...it honestly doesn't enter my mind, I do what I do and have learned to do it without a partner. Would one help me? Probably. You never know. I wouldn't even want the headache of trying to find one so I really do hear what your saying....
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yep. i was thinking that too. what the hell is so wrong about pre-exhausting with extensions, then going to smith squats!!!?? lol!! i guess it doesnt jive with the little rule book he has in his head.
Hey, Dave! I just wanted to give you a shout out and congratulate you for the AWESOME work ethic you put in. Awesome physique, coupled with the right attitude to go with. I wish some IFBB pros could get some pointers from you re commitment and dedication (Hi C. Cormier, a.k.a. Rainbow ::)) .
To your detractors, I say F U C K them!!! Keep up the outstanding work. You sir, give bodybuilding a VERY GOOD name!! 8)
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Hey, Dave! I just wanted to give you a shout out and congratulate you for the AWESOME work ethic you put in. Awesome physique, coupled with the right attitude to go with. I wish some IFBB pros could get some pointers from you re commitment and dedication (Hi C. Cormier, a.k.a. Rainbow ::)) .
To your detractors, I say F U C K them!!! Keep up the outstanding work. You sir, give bodybuilding a VERY GOOD name!! 8)
hey, mike. thanks for the props!! a shred of positive energy in a sea of negativity!! lol! ive been at this an awful long time ( 30 years this year) and i still go into the gym each day with the same enthusiasm as i did in 1977 when i picked up my first barbell in my dads basement....back then i used textbook form....lol!
hope you decide to check out "raising the bar 2" when my brother gets done the editing process and puts it out there. should be soon.
thanks again...that post meant alot to me.
www.davepulcinella.com.
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hey Dave, you do train like a little bitch but you seem like a good dude.
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Just a few points from both sides:
Yes, Dave's form is the shits. Pretty well every pro trains with some level of bad form, but those modified row-pulldowns are up there with Bertil Fox's dumbbell curls lol! However, Dave is a bodybuilder so other than what he looks like on contest day the rest doesn't matter. My concern would be injuries, but he is probably like Bertil in that he has joints of steel and is able to train like this. My next concern would be productivity. Would he grow more with better form? Perhaps, but after 30 years of training I seem to think he has things figured out. Was the DVD supposed to be a training DVD or a documentary? If it was supposed to be a documentary like the first one, the form doesn't matter since it's simply supposed to recount Dave's training. If it's being marketed as a training DVD, then better form would be more appropriate.
As for the DVD, this is exactly the type of thing bodybuilding needs and the same can be said of the Raising the Bar I. I was excited to see a DVD come out that wasn't another training or contest DVD like 99% of them. This was refreshing and something severely lacking in the bodybuilding world. I'm not the only one who has these sentiments. My review of the first DVD is here:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/raisingthebardvdreview.html
If part II is as good as part I, I recommend for everyone to get it. I would also like a review copy of the DVD, and I would like to pay $0. ;D
Thanks. 8)
matt!!! you da man!! my brother will be happy to hear you say all of the things you did.. rtb2 is a documentary just like the first one was. nothing on there is meant to be for instructional purposes, god forbid. i would never suggest a beginner or intermediate guy train the way i do. they would kill themselves. you must start with proper form until youre able to isolate the muslces youre trying to hit. i reached that point in the early 80's! lol!
anyway, thanks again for the props....!
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hey Dave, you do train like a little bitch but you seem like a good dude.
i am. im a good little bitch...lol! word.
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Nice! Can't wait to get it. Do you still see Victor often? ???
If you win the Masters North American Championships, will you get your pro card? Also, how long do you plan to compete?
Here are the pics of you posted in the summer:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=82833.0
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i see victor every time i train. he works at the golds where i train ( now called "total fitness") we will hit it together sometimes if he can catch a break from work and were on the same bodypart. happens maybe twice a month.
matt, ive wom the heavies at the north americans two years in a row now. im really focusing all my energies on that overall and pro card this year. it will be the only show i do this year.
ha! those pics were taken 5 weeks out of the masters nationals, the show that is the focal point of raising the bar 2.
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Hmm... stiffen the arms and torso and then lean back against the resistance... Well, I prefer reverse crunches for working the lower-abs - but to each his own.
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Hmm... stiffen the arms and torso and then lean back against the resistance... Well, I prefer reverse crunches for working the lower-abs - but to each his own.
first of all, theres no such thing as "lower abs" . the abdominal wall contracts as a unit based on the "all or nothing" principal of muscular contraction. plus, if that movement is hitting the abs, why dont i feel it there? why do i only feel it in my lats??? hmmmm...just like how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop..the world may never know the answer.
plus, hate to ruin your joke, but the resistance would have to be coming from the opposite direction to effect the abs, bro. i need you to research 2 things: the physiology of muscular contaction, and basic biomechanics......
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first of all, theres no such thing as "lower abs" . the abdominal wall contracts as a unit based on the "all or nothing" principal of muscular contraction. plus, if that movement is hitting the abs, why dont i feel it there? why do i only feel it in my lats??? hmmmm...just like how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop..the world may never know the answer.
plus, hate to ruin your joke, but the resistance would have to be coming from the opposite direction to effect the abs, bro. i need you to research 2 things: the physiology of muscular contaction, and basic biomechanics......
These other guys call you ugly, purple-headed, etc, and you go off on this milquetoast jab? :)
All I'll say in reply to "there's no such thing as lower abs" is that if you can't feel any difference between a crunch and a reverse crunch, you may want to seek medical help.
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The abdominal muscles are made up of four muscle groups. These are the rectus abdominus, transversus abdominus, internal oblique, and external oblique muscles. This group of muscles help to stabilize the trunk, provide organ stability, and assist in flexion and rotation of the trunk. I also work in the PT field. And the knee extension-squat..as long as he is properly warmed up this is a great exercise combination! And also I trained with Dave. Again, he is doing what works best for him and it shows. And just maybe he did super heavy deads, wide grip pull ups, barbell and low pulley rows and uses this "Dave Row" for a finisher. Again, by his bodybuilding placings, he might know a thing or two about exercise form. Dave, most of these guys couldn't carry your lunch box with "good form"
And Mike, hurry the hell up with RTB #2 Ok?
I am so missing the sushi scenes...
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Hmm... stiffen the arms and torso and then lean back against the resistance... Well, I prefer reverse crunches for working the lower-abs - but to each his own.
A shit load of momentum going on. Stricter form and you do not have to use that much weight.
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Since when is "bodybuilding" a contest to see who uses the best form? I have seen some pros on video during a real training session and they all pretty much break down at the end of a set and push it to the limit using some pretty loose style. I have trained with Dave many various times over the last 30 years and even at the age of 42 the guy still takes each set to the limit. I have even done these close grip "Dave Pulldowns" with him recently and my lats were incapacitated afterwards.
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i want to ANALYZE the chick in beginning of the clip
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fucked up form on the close grip pulldowns...ego lifting as usual on youtube
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fucked up form on the close grip pulldowns...ego lifting as usual on youtube
Wrong. Read the thread.
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Wrong. Read the thread.
no too much text, i never read threads. unless you trying to start a motor that is fucked up form for close grip pulldowns.
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i want to ANALYZE the chick in beginning of the clip
I'm with ya on that one!
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I'm with ya on that one!
yeah she is hot as hell..you know her lol ? love the way she has her hair put up....ravage her in the gym toilet ;D
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no too much text, i never read threads. unless you trying to start a motor that is fucked up form for close grip pulldowns.
Then you will make a fool of yourself by posting about issues that have already been exhaustively addressed. You add nothing to the discussion except negativity.
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yeah she is hot as hell..you know her lol ? love the way she has her hair put up....ravage her in the gym toilet ;D
Know her?? I wish! No, she was just some hot chick on an exercise bike. My camera was drawn to her like a magnet!
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hey, mike. thanks for the props!! a shred of positive energy in a sea of negativity!! lol! ive been at this an awful long time ( 30 years this year) and i still go into the gym each day with the same enthusiasm as i did in 1977 when i picked up my first barbell in my dads basement....back then i used textbook form....lol!
hope you decide to check out "raising the bar 2" when my brother gets done the editing process and puts it out there. should be soon.
thanks again...that post meant alot to me.
www.davepulcinella.com.
Hey, man, that was my pleasure. I only stated the thruth. Our SPORT needs a heck of a lot more good examples like yours to elevate its reputation again. The daily grind and strugle to put in the hard work in the gym and at the dinner table, all the while maintaining a steady job and raise a family. This is not for those who just want it, but for those who actually can do it.
Once again, it was my pleasure! :D
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lol just because i point out that your form is fucked up?..and it doesnt help to call it baloooba rows...just a "post fabrication" to justify using the whole weight stack...
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My camera was drawn to her like a magnet!
As it should be.
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As it should be.
i wanna sodomize her
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lol just because i point out that your form is fucked up?..and it doesnt help to call it baloooba rows...just a "post fabrication" to justify using the whole weight stack...
If you had read the thread you'd know you were talking to the filmmaker, not the bodybuilder. It's not MY form we're talking about and besides... anyone who complains of "ego lifting" usually means to say " hey, that guy can lift more weight than me!"
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If you had read the thread you'd know you were talking to the filmmaker, not the bodybuilder. It's not MY form we're talking about and besides... anyone who complains of "ego lifting" usually means to say " hey, that guy can lift more weight than me!"
no it doesnt, it means if i watch 100 clips on youtube..99 will contain bad form..thats what it means
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I still don't know how bodybuilding in any way has anything to do with "form". Just like it has nothing to do with health and wellness. Isn't it about taking your physique the extreme? This ain't no fucking early morning workout TV show with some skinny girl showing you how to breath properly while she presses two 8lb dumbbells with perfect form.
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Just a few points from both sides:
Yes, Dave's form is the shits. Pretty well every pro trains with some level of bad form, but those modified row-pulldowns are up there with Bertil Fox's dumbbell curls lol! However, Dave is a bodybuilder so other than what he looks like on contest day the rest doesn't matter. My concern would be injuries, but he is probably like Bertil in that he has joints of steel and is able to train like this. My next concern would be productivity. Would he grow more with better form? Perhaps, but after 30 years of training I seem to think he has things figured out. Was the DVD supposed to be a training DVD or a documentary? If it was supposed to be a documentary like the first one, the form doesn't matter since it's simply supposed to recount Dave's training. If it's being marketed as a training DVD, then better form would be more appropriate.
As for the DVD, this is exactly the type of thing bodybuilding needs and the same can be said of the Raising the Bar I. I was excited to see a DVD come out that wasn't another training or contest DVD like 99% of them. This was refreshing and something severely lacking in the bodybuilding world. I'm not the only one who has these sentiments. My review of the first DVD is here:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/raisingthebardvdreview.html
If part II is as good as part I, I recommend for everyone to get it. I would also like a review copy of the DVD, and I would like to pay $0. ;D
Thanks. 8)
There is NO WAY you are going to have to pay for this DVD Matt! You have been one of our biggest supporters and will be one of the first to get a (complimentary!) copy of RTB2.
It's funny, a few people who watched the original RTB said that they wanted to see more workout footage next time and so I posted this clip for them and because I was really happy with the way it came out. I now regret posting this particular clip as the first example of RTB2. I didn't mean to give the impression that RTB2 is a training video and unfortunately it is being taken that way. It is a documentary, as Dave said. The next clip I show will be a better representation of what we are trying to do.
Thanks again for your support!
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I still don't know how bodybuilding in any way has anything to do with "form". Just like it has nothing to do with health and wellness. Isn't it about taking your physique the extreme? This ain't no fucking early morning workout TV show with some skinny girl showing you how to breath properly while she presses two 8lb dumbbells with perfect form.
lol i agree with that...lifting shouldnt be pussy lifting..some exercises its ok to cheat more than in others...(squats no..db curls its ok to use some body english)..im not saying lift slow and controlled like a pussy with small pink 6lbs db but that clip was too much cheating..and more of a lower back exercise
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I'd like to give kudos to Martin Bailey who is composing music for this project. That's his piece you hear in the background and it was composed specifically for this scene and works great IMO!
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lol i agree with that...lifting shouldnt be pussy lifting..some exercises its ok to cheat more than in others...(squats no..db curls its ok to use some body english)..im not saying lift slow and controlled like a pussy with small pink 6lbs db but that clip was too much cheating..and more of a lower back exercise
Skim through the thread (don't need to read it!) and check out the pix of Dave and see if you don't think that his methods, as unorthodox as they might seem, yield results. Isn't results what it's all about?
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you have to try to film that chick again
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All this being aside it's going to be a really interesting DVD as was the first one. Dave is a very likable and good guy and Mike does a good job with the production. Mike is not trying to get across the idea that Dave is the best BB in the world he is just trying to put something out there and say to everyone "enjoy this look into a bodybuilder's life" I'd like to see more documentaries like this on other athletes (not just bbers) with as much access and real training footage.
lol i agree with that...lifting shouldnt be pussy lifting..some exercises its ok to cheat more than in others...(squats no..db curls its ok to use some body english)..im not saying lift slow and controlled like a pussy with small pink 6lbs db but that clip was too much cheating..and more of a lower back exercise
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cool..form looked good in the other exercises...
do you believe in working a muscle once a week?
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All this being aside it's going to be a really interesting DVD as was the first one. Dave is a very likable and good guy and Mike does a good job with the production. Mike is not trying to get across the idea that Dave is the best BB in the world he is just trying to put something out there and say to everyone "enjoy this look into a bodybuilder's life" I'd like to see more documentaries like this on other athletes (not just bbers) with as much access and real training footage.
Thanks Steve. I'd love to do other docs on other athletes. Any takers out there?
To all: Steve is being modest here. He is a champion strongman and highland games competitor and has his own extreme methods of training. Don't try this at home, kids!
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hahahaha, here's one of Steve's responses to a negative comment
SPulcinella (3 days ago)
Thanks for the input Jack Lalanne but these aren't those pussy powerlifting good mornings. These are a specific exercise that i use to train for an event in the highland games.
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hahahaha, here's one of Steve's responses to a negative comment
SPulcinella (3 days ago)
Thanks for the input Jack Lalanne but these aren't those pussy powerlifting good mornings. These are a specific exercise that i use to train for an event in the highland games.
haha thats his excuse when people say he has bad form..........: he is doing some secret exercise that is so advanced that us regular people wouldnt understand ;D and that it takes 30 years to grasp it
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actually it's quite perfect form. That movement is a type of good morning that I learned from watching training footage of eastern european olympic lifters train. I didn't make it up. It's just not something that you see in many bodybuilding workouts. I use it to build deep pulling strength for tossing the 56lb weight for height and the caber toss. Believe me, if i wasn't training for something specific I would not be doing them.
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actually it's quite perfect form. That movement is a type of good morning that I learned from watching training footage of eastern european olympic lifters train. I didn't make it up. It's just not something that you see in many bodybuilding workouts. I use it to build deep pulling strength for tossing the 56lb weight for height and the caber toss. Believe me, if i wasn't training for something specific I would not be doing them.
yeah i wan't questioning you Steve, you're a strong dude, i've read about you in Milo.
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haha thats his excuse when people say he has bad form..........: he is doing some secret exercise that is so advanced that us regular people wouldnt understand ;D and that it takes 30 years to grasp it
What's wrong with that response? Have you done the highland games? Do you have any idea of what goes into it or the kind of training is necessary? If you haven't thrown the sheaf or tossed the caber you simply don't know what you are talking about.
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These other guys call you ugly, purple-headed, etc, and you go off on this milquetoast jab? :)
All I'll say in reply to "there's no such thing as lower abs" is that if you can't feel any difference between a crunch and a reverse crunch, you may want to seek medical help.
i AM ugly and purple headed!! lol!
all im saying is that you cant just contract the lower portion of your abdominal wall, the whole thing contracts from the sternum all the way to your dick. thats all i was saying, bro.
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The abdominal muscles are made up of four muscle groups. These are the rectus abdominus, transversus abdominus, internal oblique, and external oblique muscles. This group of muscles help to stabilize the trunk, provide organ stability, and assist in flexion and rotation of the trunk. I also work in the PT field. And the knee extension-squat..as long as he is properly warmed up this is a great exercise combination! And also I trained with Dave. Again, he is doing what works best for him and it shows. And just maybe he did super heavy deads, wide grip pull ups, barbell and low pulley rows and uses this "Dave Row" for a finisher. Again, by his bodybuilding placings, he might know a thing or two about exercise form. Dave, most of these guys couldn't carry your lunch box with "good form"
And Mike, hurry the hell up with RTB #2 Ok?
I am so missing the sushi scenes...
ant....thanks for the props, bro!! hey, lets get together and train again somwhere around april or so. you up for that??
then we can go and do sushi and make our own "sushi scene"
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ant....thanks for the props, bro!! hey, lets get together and train again somwhere around april or so. you up for that??
then we can go and do sushi and make our own "sushi scene"
Raising the Bar 3: The BigAnt story??
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A shit load of momentum going on. Stricter form and you do not have to use that much weight.
thanks for the advice. ill take it under advisement and utilize your methods as soon im ready to reduce my lat size.
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Raising the Bar 3: The BigAnt story??
Mike I can see it now, Dave, Al, Fortney, Victor, Freddie, Rhino, myself...All the East Coast guys training and you filming us getting kicked out of OutBack Steakhouse cause they ran out of the 18oz. NY strip!
Hey lets fly Arvilla and Cheri in on the filming also!
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Mike I can see it now, Dave, Al, Fortney, Victor, Freddie, Rhino, myself...All the East Coast guys training and you filming us getting kicked out of OutBack Steakhouse cause they ran out of the 18oz. NY strip!
Hey lets fly Arvilla and Cheri in on the filming also!
LOL! That's not a documentary...that's a comedy!!
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ant....thanks for the props, bro!! hey, lets get together and train again somwhere around april or so. you up for that??
then we can go and do sushi and make our own "sushi scene"
Dave;
Sounds good, just e-mail me when...
Tell Al to keep strong for the Arnold Amateur!
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bro, do me a favor. get under a 300 lb stack on a leg extension machine, imitate my form and get 50 reps like i do. i swear to you, there is nothing like the pain you will experience in your quads. ONLY YOUR QUADS. NOT YOUR LOWER BACK ETC, IF YOURE DOING IT RIGHT!
ive NEVER gotten that feeling from doing them "textbook"..seriously!
Fair enough if it works for you ;)
and rowdowns haha good one
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Mike I can see it now, Dave, Al, Fortney, Victor, Freddie, Rhino, myself...All the East Coast guys training and you filming us getting kicked out of OutBack Steakhouse cause they ran out of the 18oz. NY strip!
Hey lets fly Arvilla and Cheri in on the filming also!
Victor?!?!??................i saw him in Miami at the Nationals
at the after party he was dancing with his shirt off .........glow stick in hand
lolipop in mouth/holding Bruce Patterson's hand!
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Get out!
Where was your camera LOL
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cool..form looked good in the other exercises...
do you believe in working a muscle once a week?
dont know if you were asking me that question, but if you were, yes. i hit 1 bodypart a day and work the entire body once over a week.
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Fair enough if it works for you ;)
and rowdowns haha good one
yep! i fugure if i dont call them "pulldowns" , i cant be accused of doing pulldowns wrong! lol!
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i would hate to have to workout in that gym
i agree totally. i ,too would hate to have you working out in my gym.
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Dave, I really like the first DVD and am looking forward to part two. I live in DE and have trained with Big Al Fortney a few years back. I currently work out at Fred's Gold's. I am thinking about doing the DE this yr, and it will be my first show. I was wondering with your busy schedule do you help novices with contest prep. Your conditioniing is insane. Anyways just wanted to say keep up the good work.
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what makes a gym good or bad? is it what you see in that clip, or the talent of the athletes that come out of it.
all i know is there are about three national level bbers and there are atleast two pros there. we dont have the chrome weights you are used to but we have everything you need.
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what makes a gym good or bad? is it what you see in that clip, or the talent of the athletes that come out of it.
all i know is there are about three national level bbers and there are atleast two pros there. we dont have the chrome weights you are used to but we have everything you need.
What makes a gym good to me is that they have a good variety of equipment and everything is neat and in its place. I have never seen a dumbbell out of order or off the rack at that gym, unless it was in someone's hands being used.
I also like working out around enthusiastic BBs, like Dave and Al, or in the case of our cousin Steve's strength gym Iron Sport, around huge dudes doing power cleans and lifting 400 lb stones. I'm not anywhere near their league and I try to stay out of the way as much as possible but I like being around the energy. It inspires me and I usually have a good workout when I'm there.
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since i work there i would have to agree with you mike ;) also i would agree with you because as mentioned earlier there is a great deal of talent coming out of there. also there all types there its got your normal people and your hard cores and they live well togather here and interact well. it is a great place and if your ever around wilmington delaware come check us out its total fitness. ask for me vic
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what makes a gym good or bad? is it what you see in that clip, or the talent of the athletes that come out of it.
all i know is there are about three national level bbers and there are atleast two pros there. we dont have the chrome weights you are used to but we have everything you need.
lol!!! good one, victor!!
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Dave, I really like the first DVD and am looking forward to part two. I live in DE and have trained with Big Al Fortney a few years back. I currently work out at Fred's Gold's. I am thinking about doing the DE this yr, and it will be my first show. I was wondering with your busy schedule do you help novices with contest prep. Your conditioniing is insane. Anyways just wanted to say keep up the good work.
thanks so much...i do work with novices and ive also helped a few national level guys here in delaware and also online i work with guys from all over. i am very booked up with the upcoming competition season, but if you want, you can set something up to come into my office and have me take a look at you to assess how much work would need to be done.
www.davepulcinella.com. you can contact me off of my site, bro. talk to you soon
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yep! i fugure if i dont call them "pulldowns" , i cant be accused of doing pulldowns wrong! lol!
True ;D
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Dave and Mike,
It's Tim Covert I saw the clip of Raising the Bar and have read all of the subsequent posts. However, I am still learning how to post. I do not even know if I'm responding under Mike's thread or inadvertently made a new one. I still want to see if these comments even post. I have comments I just want make sure they are properly posted. Hope all is well with both of you. Tim Covert.
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Dave and Mike,
It's Tim Covert I saw the clip of Raising the Bar and have read all of the subsequent posts. However, I am still learning how to post. I do not even know if I'm responding under Mike's thread or inadvertently made a new one. I still want to see if these comments even post. I have comments I just want make sure they are properly posted. Hope all is well with both of you. Tim Covert.
HEY TIM!!! wassup? its dave. feel free to add to the discussion although youll be hard pressed to come up with an insult to me that hasnt already been covered here.
talk to you soon.
cant wait to see the rtb2 scene with our arm workout in it. we are totally gonna get blasted for our "form"
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Dave,
You know our form looks ugly. In addition, anyone who reads training books and looks at pictures in muscle magazines can infer that our techniques are unorthodox especially at the the end of a set. This does not matter to us since we know it works for us. We never take the tension off the muscle being worked and who grows more? The guy who puts the bar down at the start of fatigue or the guy who keeps going with non-traditional form for extra reps and goes beyond fatigue? We know it's the latter since no one ever grew from staring at a bar after a perfect set of eight or ten reps with textbook form. I also know you do not care in the least what your appearance or your "form" looks like in a gym. You care about how you look on a stage. This philosophy is painfully evident given your elite physique. I feel you bro!
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Dave,
You know our form looks ugly. In addition, anyone who reads training books and looks at pictures in muscle magazines can infer that our techniques are unorthodox especially at the the end of a set. This does not matter to us since we know it works for us. We never take the tension off the muscle being worked and who grows more? The guy who puts the bar down at the start of fatigue or the guy who keeps going with non-traditional form for extra reps and goes beyond fatigue? We know it's the latter since no one ever grew from staring at a bar after a perfect set of eight or ten reps with textbook form. I also know you do not care in the least what your appearance or your "form" looks like in a gym. You care about how you look on a stage. This philosophy is painfully evident given your elite physique. I feel you bro!
hey, tim!! you know from first hand experience that the shit in that clip works!! lol!! man, we had some of the best workouts at golds- springfield and ballys back in the day. i miss it!! you have to promise that you will come down on the weekends and hit it with me this summer!!