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Title: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: IceCold on January 15, 2007, 08:16:25 PM
in the new flex, joj claims a best of 405 for 8 reps for upright rows.

could kaz, gary taylor, gary frank, paul anderson, etc. even do this lift, let alone a 5'6 250 lb. bodybuilder with a small bone structure?

 ::)
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: Cap on January 15, 2007, 08:17:56 PM
in the new flex, joj claims a best of 405 for 8 reps for upright rows.

could kaz, gary taylor, gary frank, paul anderson, etc. even do this lift, let alone a 5'6 250 lb. bodybuilder with a small bone structure?

 ::)
Or his 405x8 seated barbell press?
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: slaveboy1980 on January 15, 2007, 08:29:02 PM
probably some kind of modified shrug  ;D
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: Big Lee on January 15, 2007, 08:30:47 PM
Might mean bent row?
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: MisterMagoo on January 15, 2007, 08:36:58 PM
if he did it like a power clean i could imagine it, sure. not a strict shoulder-exclusive upright row, hell no.
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: Bast000 on January 15, 2007, 08:48:00 PM
haha oh brother, crucial display of short man's syndrome,.34rt325t235t12
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: MikeThaMachine on January 16, 2007, 03:09:06 AM
haha oh brother, crucial display of short man's syndrome,.34rt325t235t12

You know all about that don't you ::)
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: rccs on January 16, 2007, 04:05:00 AM
I think it might do it, he is one of the few bbers that are really strong...
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: HUGEPECS on January 16, 2007, 06:23:14 AM
I believe some of them, but some other claims sound like bullshit
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: Overload on January 16, 2007, 06:33:55 AM
Watch his videos...

8)
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: IceCold on January 16, 2007, 07:13:51 AM
Watch his videos...

8)


we have.

remember when he did 405 for a few reps on barbell rows with horrendous form.
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: The Squadfather on January 16, 2007, 07:16:16 AM

we have.

remember when he did 405 for a few reps on barbell rows with horrendous form.
hahahahaha, that was the funniest thing i've ever seen, he literally pulled the bar about 6 inches.
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: MikeThaMachine on January 16, 2007, 07:25:23 AM
hahahahaha, that was the funniest thing i've ever seen, he literally pulled the bar about 6 inches.


I believe it was closer to 6 3/8 inches.
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: IceCold on January 16, 2007, 07:27:51 AM
and jerked it the whole way.

Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: JOEBEAST on January 16, 2007, 08:18:55 AM
JOJ HAS SHIT FORM BUT IT WORKS FOR HIM.
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: Option D on January 16, 2007, 08:23:03 AM
Dude never. Not sure his shoulders could take it. Also his form would be so awful we might not even be able to make out what area he is trying to work.
I dont use the strictist of forms but i 1) atleast have a full ROM and 2) if i feel the movement in a place not intended to be affected i lower the weight and do it right.
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: rccs on January 16, 2007, 08:31:43 AM
Well, I found this vid of JJ doing bench press, and let me tell you that I am disapointed... Not that strong on bench press...
http://www.mesomorphosis.com/store/videos/johnnie-jackson-next-level.html
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: Option D on January 16, 2007, 08:43:04 AM
Dude i swear i read this somewhere...were JOJ said in offseason he did 20 reps of 405....Rhul Commented on it on an MD one time...ill try and find it...Im starting to like this dude less and less. First he does gay for pay and then he tells these bullshit strength claims.
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: kyomu on January 16, 2007, 08:59:18 AM
Dude i swear i read this somewhere...were JOJ said in offseason he did 20 reps of 405....Rhul Commented on it on an MD one time...ill try and find it...Im starting to like this dude less and less. First he does gay for pay and then he tells these bullshit strength claims.
i wanna know why he should lie so much. he already have good physic...
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: Option D on January 16, 2007, 09:00:25 AM
i wanna know why he should lie so much. he already have good physic...

Because he has a powerlifter background so he believes he is the strongest bodybuilder out
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: IceCold on January 16, 2007, 09:24:14 AM
Because he has a powerlifter background so he believes he is the strongest bodybuilder out

exactly.

bc he's competed in a few wpo events with at best decent numbers, he feels the need to grossly exaggerate his lifts.

meanwhile, he should be getting his gyno cut out. 
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: Big N on January 16, 2007, 09:27:15 AM
Because he has a powerlifter background so he believes he is the strongest bodybuilder out



lol yeah sure same way he challenged Coleman?



::)
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: MikeThaMachine on January 16, 2007, 10:55:18 AM
exactly.

bc he's competed in a few wpo events with at best decent numbers, he feels the need to grossly exaggerate his lifts.

meanwhile, he should be getting his gyno cut out. 

I would say he put up some really good numbers, his last competition I believe he was only 240 something and deadlifted 700+. I will see if I can look up the exact numbers.
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: MisterMagoo on January 16, 2007, 01:08:42 PM
bc he's competed in a few wpo events with at best decent numbers, he feels the need to grossly exaggerate his lifts.

pulling and squatting both over 800 while weighing roughly 230 is a fair bit above "decent" numbers. a little while ago he was in a deadlift-only competition and competed as a 259 (not sure why there was a 259 division), ended up beating the 275 and i believe the 308.

he probably exaggerates his upper body claims a bit because that's where his strength lags. oh and no one here can tell me his rows were any worse than ronnie's in cost of redemption. both were comically bad. throw in dorian's in blood and guts while we're at it. and yet, those three guys have some seriously thick backs.
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: BM OUT on January 17, 2007, 11:55:12 AM
This is the same fool that claims he will pull 1000lbs in the deadlift when his best lift is 820.He is a VERY VERY strong man,but he clearly lives in a fantasy world.
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: MikeThaMachine on January 18, 2007, 02:09:37 AM
This is the same fool that claims he will pull 1000lbs in the deadlift when his best lift is 820.He is a VERY VERY strong man,but he clearly lives in a fantasy world.

He never claimed he did 1000lbs only that he wanted to one day pull that much, basically that's his new goal for powerlifting.
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: Bear on January 18, 2007, 02:49:16 AM
in the new flex, joj claims a best of 405 for 8 reps for upright rows.

could kaz, gary taylor, gary frank, paul anderson, etc. even do this lift, let alone a 5'6 250 lb. bodybuilder with a small bone structure?

 ::)

Rather than being 'the strongest bodybuilder in the world', he's basically just the best cheater/ bullshitting bodybuilder in the world. It's not his fault he thinks throwing it around even worse than Ronnie is cool. Ronnie just destroys him at strength though.
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: BM OUT on January 18, 2007, 03:48:44 AM
He predicted that he would do it.Lets see,guys like Ed Coan havent[hes pulled over 800 about 50 times]Garry Frank hasnt,Kaz hasnt but Johnny Jackson will.What a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: GroinkTropin on January 18, 2007, 03:52:42 AM
He predicted that he would do it.Lets see,guys like Ed Coan havent[hes pulled over 800 about 50 times]Garry Frank hasnt,Kaz hasnt but Johnny Jackson will.What a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

I think mariusz pudjenowski(sp?) can, shit I saw him deadlift 605 for 18 reps on wsm. Thats nuts! Not straps! 
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: rccs on January 18, 2007, 03:56:01 AM
I think mariusz pudjenowski(sp?) can, shit I saw him deadlift 605 for 18 reps on wsm. Thats nuts! Not straps! 
Yes I saw it too. But Mariusz is the best athlete in the world. He looks like a bber (better than many bbers), but has a really functional physique. Johnnie is a little boy compared with Pudzianowski...
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: GroinkTropin on January 18, 2007, 04:13:24 AM
Yes I saw it too. But Mariusz is the best athlete in the world. He looks like a bber (better than many bbers), but has a really functional physique. Johnnie is a little boy compared with Pudzianowski...

I feel pretty strongly that in many ways, mariusz is the greatest athlete in the world. He is amazing, and we probably haven't seen his peak yet.
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: rccs on January 18, 2007, 04:29:02 AM
I feel pretty strongly that in many ways, mariusz is the greatest athlete in the world. He is amazing, and we probably haven't seen his peak yet.
I think it too.
Watch tis vid
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I will try to find another where he is doing kick boxing movents and raising is leg oover head height
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: slaveboy1980 on January 18, 2007, 06:02:39 AM
jackson does gay 4 pay right?
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: Option D on January 18, 2007, 06:45:29 AM
jackson does gay 4 pay right?


affirmative. Disturbing video on youtube
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: kyomu on January 18, 2007, 06:49:03 AM

affirmative. Disturbing video on youtube
Well How much do they make with that gay for pay video?
If its extremely good money.......Why not?
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: Option D on January 18, 2007, 06:50:36 AM
Well How much do they make with that gay for pay video?
If its extremely good money.......Why not?

im not sure, but a man should go only so far before he gives up his dignity
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: kyomu on January 18, 2007, 06:54:12 AM
im not sure, but a man should go only so far before he gives up his dignity
hahahaha,Be careful Big Boy! I saw many BBer(Talking about dignity) like you ended up with doing stripp tease!(seriously!) ;D
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: Option D on January 18, 2007, 06:55:25 AM
hahahaha,Be careful Big Boy! I saw many BBer(Talking about dignity) like you ended up with doing stripp tease!(seriously!) ;D

Oh i believe you. I guess im too young and dont really have a lot of responsibility outside of myself. Maybe if i had hungry kids to feed... :-\
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: slaveboy1980 on January 18, 2007, 06:57:20 AM
hahahaha,Be careful Big Boy! I saw many BBer(Talking about dignity) like you ended up with doing stripp tease!(seriously!) ;D
kyumo give us some names  ;D
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: kyomu on January 18, 2007, 06:59:25 AM
kyumo give us some names  ;D
Oh I am not joking!They are my fellow competitors in Spain! ;D
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: bigdumbbell on January 18, 2007, 07:02:24 AM

affirmative. Disturbing video on youtube
ok, what about that clip disturbed you so much or were you disturbed before you played it? :)
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: slaveboy1980 on January 18, 2007, 07:02:49 AM
kyomu: do you know of older women in spain that buy bbs as whores?  ;D
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: Option D on January 18, 2007, 07:05:45 AM
ok, what about that clip disturbed you so much or were you disturbed before you played it? :)

Well someone posted here "Awsome JOJ vid" so i thoght i was a damn power lift ot something. Then i click it and its this dude in God knows what prancing around. Thought it was a sick joke.
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: kyomu on January 18, 2007, 07:13:05 AM
For example, one of the guy makes 300$ in 15 minutes.What do you think?He dont prostitute but Just showing his dick to some girls. He dont do it for gay just for girls. Not bad.
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: kyomu on January 18, 2007, 07:14:42 AM
kyomu: do you know of older women in spain that buy bbs as whores?  ;D
I have never met  Gigolo BBer. So i dont know.
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: the shadow on January 18, 2007, 07:20:03 AM
i think so johnnie is pretty strong..heres a pic of him deadlifting 804lbs
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: Option D on January 18, 2007, 07:22:14 AM
For example, one of the guy makes 300$ in 15 minutes.What do you think?He dont prostitute but Just showing his dick to some girls. He dont do it for gay just for girls. Not bad.

Oh shit i can do that all day...show my wang to some broads for some money...sheeeit i do it for free now
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: kyomu on January 18, 2007, 07:24:32 AM
Oh shit i can do that all day...show my wang to some broads for some money...sheeeit i do it for free now
See? ;D Little by little entering the dark side... ;D Maybe you see me with horns , tail and bat wing!
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: kyomu on January 18, 2007, 07:27:09 AM
Honestly, i would have done if i posses huge dick. Mine is not small but still a japanese size :'(
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: bigdumbbell on January 18, 2007, 07:29:55 AM
Honestly, i would have done if i posses huge dick. Mine is not small but still a japanese size :'(
just come out of the closet, nobody really gives a shit and we're all bored or else we'd be outside. :)
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: kyomu on January 18, 2007, 07:35:59 AM
just come out of the closet, nobody really gives a shit and we're all bored or else we'd be outside. :)
hahahaha.I dont really care since my wife get orgasm.
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: slaveboy1980 on January 18, 2007, 08:11:32 AM
Honestly, i would have done if i posses huge dick. Mine is not small but still a japanese size :'(

kyomu check my WAC thread...
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: Farkenell on January 18, 2007, 01:47:27 PM
JOJ HAS SHIT FORM BUT IT WORKS FOR HIM.


Im sure all those drugs are working for him too, his gyno is getting worse and worse.

Christ... Those rows and deadlifts were awful.
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 18, 2007, 04:35:44 PM
he probably exaggerates his upper body claims a bit because that's where his strength lags. oh and no one here can tell me his rows were any worse than ronnie's in cost of redemption. both were comically bad. throw in dorian's in blood and guts while we're at it. and yet, those three guys have some seriously thick backs.
You think Dorian's rows were bad? They were almost perfect IMO. I mean not much momentum.
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: The Squadfather on January 18, 2007, 04:36:55 PM
You think Dorian's rows were bad? They were almost perfect IMO. I mean not much momentum.
not much momentum but the weight didn't even go below his knees.
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: IceCold on January 18, 2007, 06:47:18 PM
i beleive jonnie's best lifts in the WPO were 540 bench, 815 dl, and squat like 770 or something. 

those are all with full gear.

so why does he expect to list things as 150 hammer curls, 405 shoulder presses, 495 reps in bench, etc.


these maybe some of the most outrageous claims ever.


also, whenever FLEX does a feature about him training, he uses weights no where near to that and branch blows him away. 
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: Hedgehog on January 18, 2007, 06:54:06 PM

we have.

remember when he did 405 for a few reps on barbell rows with horrendous form.

Or when he died under 315 lbs for reps in benchpress.

-Hedge
Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: Farkenell on January 18, 2007, 06:57:22 PM
not much momentum but the weight didn't even go below his knees.

True

Dorian adopted more of an upright rowing technique,  had he performed parallelish rows sorta like Haney, his back wouldve looked even more awesome

Title: Re: another johnnie jackson BS strength claim
Post by: pobrecito on January 18, 2007, 07:08:48 PM
True

Dorian adopted more of an upright rowing technique,  had he performed parallelish rows sorta like Haney, his back wouldve looked even more awesome



eh...no :-\

Dorian Yates revolutionized the way people did barbell rows. By shifting from the "old school" 90 degree rows to a 70 degree row, Yates was able to put the lats in a much stronger position to pull. As well, stress was taken off the lower back and greater poundages were able to be used; thus, the two greatest backs of all time: Dorian Yates and Ronnie Coleman. Haney is a distant third.